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Oh, those fire&forget based weapons...


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#1 The_Silencer

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Posted November 29 2012 - 05:56 PM

Yes.. basically those fire&forget projectiles... high velocity and/or really hard to evade/dodge... moreover there're certain props which provides no real (or full) cover to you Vs. those ( as for example "gas tanks" and specifically container boxes on Andromeda ).

Please, go it and discuss; re-plz!

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#2 Skylead

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Posted November 29 2012 - 06:17 PM

The "gas tanks" or steel balls are supposed to only provide partial cover. Or in the words of Blizzard: "Working as intended."

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Posted November 29 2012 - 06:21 PM

Gas bags/tanks are ok. But I've observed certain issues with those big container boxes (props). They do not provide you real cover. Maybe I'm wrong on this, you may apport your own experience with those..

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#4 Karaipantsu

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Posted November 29 2012 - 07:22 PM

I... what... so, wait, what's your question/beef?

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Posted November 29 2012 - 07:34 PM

View PostKaraipantsu, on November 29 2012 - 07:22 PM, said:

I... what... so, wait, what's your question/beef?

I'm guessing the AoE of the auto seeking missile/s doesn't get covered fully and you still get hit when you round a corner, that's what I gathered so far.

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#6 Karaipantsu

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Posted November 29 2012 - 09:34 PM

Which makes perfect sense, because it's an EXPLOSION.  Find better cover.

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Posted November 30 2012 - 05:18 AM

View PostSylhiri, on November 29 2012 - 07:34 PM, said:

View PostKaraipantsu, on November 29 2012 - 07:22 PM, said:

I... what... so, wait, what's your question/beef?

I'm guessing the AoE of the auto seeking missile/s doesn't get covered fully and you still get hit when you round a corner, that's what I gathered so far.

Sounds more like he's talking about cover not blocking explosions (cover is too small, holes in cover, something along those lines?).

Also, auto seeking implies that you can shoot a missile in any direction and it will automatically seek out an enemy, there are no such weapons in game.

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Posted November 30 2012 - 05:31 AM

View PostSylhiri, on November 29 2012 - 07:34 PM, said:

I'm guessing the AoE of the auto seeking missile/s doesn't get covered fully and you still get hit when you round a corner, that's what I gathered so far.
I actually have no real comment on the issue, but I just want to say you instantly got +10 respect from me for an avatar of Neco-Arc Chaos.
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Posted November 30 2012 - 06:50 AM

View PostDarkPulse, on November 30 2012 - 05:31 AM, said:

View PostSylhiri, on November 29 2012 - 07:34 PM, said:

I'm guessing the AoE of the auto seeking missile/s doesn't get covered fully and you still get hit when you round a corner, that's what I gathered so far.
I actually have no real comment on the issue, but I just want to say you instantly got +10 respect from me for an avatar of Neco-Arc Chaos.

And he lost 10 respect from Kiwi.
Beep beep, Kiwi's a Chaffeemancer.

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Posted November 30 2012 - 10:01 AM

View PostTheChaffeemancer, on November 30 2012 - 06:50 AM, said:

And he lost 10 respect from Kiwi.
Kiwi lost 10 respect for saying that.
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#11 The_Silencer

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Posted November 30 2012 - 01:00 PM

As I'm reading these last posts in here I've to admit on that I have no frakking idea on what you guys are talking about. (Beef?, Kiwi?...)

Back on topic.. the thing is that, most of the times, the current plausible chances you got at countering these guided weapons are scarce. In other words, I find these weapons like too luxurious or/and somehow unfairy substracting value to gameplay.

P.S. I had an issue in Andromeda with those big container boxes. I was behind one or two of those, well covered and some guy fired a missile and I got hit. The guy wasn't in a higher location as for example on bridge... Could that be a bug? So I'm asking again. Anyone has experienced anything like that in Adromeda with those containers or with any other prop?

Edit: Those gas tanks are round so your hitbox gets somehow exposed to enemy incomings when you'are hidding behind those... that's fair, yes. No issues there.

Edited by The_Silencer, November 30 2012 - 01:03 PM.

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Posted November 30 2012 - 01:06 PM

View PostThe_Silencer, on November 30 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

As I'm reading these last posts in here I've to admit on that I have no frakking idea on what you guys are talking about. (Beef?, Kiwi?...)
If someone has a beef with something, that means they have a problem with it.
Kiwi refers to himself in the third person, I believe, and has a username of 'TheChaffemancer'. (Apologies if this is incorrect).
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