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#1 NashleoN

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Posted December 25 2012 - 09:47 AM

For those who are experiencing low fps cause of low gpu usage, go to control panel ----> power options ----> in Balanced settings ----> change plan settings ----> change advanced power savings ----> processor power management ----> minimum processor sate ----> set it to 75% or 50% or u can try any lower than that untill the fps stop dropping. if its 5%

basically my cpu did'nt take hawken seriously while running so i increased the minimum processor state and checked it and you can set your value back to 5% when you knew the fps stop dropping.

that's what fixed my low gpu usage, its actually the cpu which reduces the gpu usage, and ingame the fps did'nt drop below 50 for my rig even in intense situations.

hope it fixes yours like it did mine.

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Posted December 25 2012 - 10:30 AM

I wouldn't do that.....what you are doing is basically setting your minimum cpu power usage at 75%,it means that even when you are at desktop idling,your cpu is working as if it was at 75% usage,that means it will work harder all the time,and die alot faster than it would otherwise.

If this fixed your issue,it means that the game settings files have some wrong condition in them somewhere,but people,this is NOT a fix,this is how you burn out your processor,near max constant load equals hot temperatures for extensive amounts of time,you will fry your cpu.
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Posted December 25 2012 - 10:51 AM

the only option under processor power management I get is "System cooling policy".
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Posted December 25 2012 - 11:04 AM

 Kronguard, on December 25 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

If this fixed your issue,it means that the game settings files have some wrong condition in them somewhere,but people,this is NOT a fix,this is how you burn out your processor,near max constant load equals hot temperatures for extensive amounts of time,you will fry your cpu.
Uh, no. This won't "burn out" his processor. His processor is just going into lower power modes at lower power use settings - but it's obviously designed to run at a "100% speed" spec. This isn't the same as CPU usage being 100% - it just means that his CPU will run at the full 3.3 GHz all the time, as opposed to ramping up and down as needed.

He'll use more power, but it won't "burn out" any quicker.
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Posted December 25 2012 - 11:13 AM

This is a good idea, however I'd suggest setting up a couple of "on/off" batch files that you can use to quickly swap between processor states if you want to do this. That way, you won't have to worry about messing with powercfg every time you want to play the game.

You'd have to check what "active scheme" you're using by typing "powercfg -getactivescheme" in a command prompt window. Once you know that, your batch file might look something like:

C:>%windir%system32powercfg.exe /SETACTIVE name

Google can probably finish the rest off for you!

[Edit] I've been running this computer with the processor state set to 100% for over a year. Either I'm really lucky or there's no real issue setting and forgetting this.

Edited by Roundlay, December 25 2012 - 11:15 AM.


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Posted December 25 2012 - 11:27 AM

 DarkPulse, on December 25 2012 - 11:04 AM, said:

 Kronguard, on December 25 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

If this fixed your issue,it means that the game settings files have some wrong condition in them somewhere,but people,this is NOT a fix,this is how you burn out your processor,near max constant load equals hot temperatures for extensive amounts of time,you will fry your cpu.
Uh, no. This won't "burn out" his processor. His processor is just going into lower power modes at lower power use settings - but it's obviously designed to run at a "100% speed" spec. This isn't the same as CPU usage being 100% - it just means that his CPU will run at the full 3.3 GHz all the time, as opposed to ramping up and down as needed.

He'll use more power, but it won't "burn out" any quicker.
the strange thing is i've set the minimum processor state back to 5% and there is no fps drops still, so that means some magic fixed my fps drops lol :D
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Posted December 25 2012 - 11:31 AM

i leave my CPU at 100% why? I dont enjoy micro hitches in games or apps when the processor decides it needs to ramp up or down, and yes it does happen.

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Posted December 25 2012 - 05:21 PM

Kronguard is right. Just sayin.

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Posted December 25 2012 - 05:33 PM

 Decoy101x, on December 25 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

i leave my CPU at 100% why? I dont enjoy micro hitches in games or apps when the processor decides it needs to ramp up or down, and yes it does happen.

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Posted December 25 2012 - 05:50 PM

You silly laptop gamers. Your AC connected power settings should be 100% min 100% max for optimum performance. It doesn't mean that you will burn out your proc. Just remember to set your system cooling policy to Active. The power options are there to throttle your laptop to prolong battery life. You can set battery to whatever you want. Look at the high performance power plan, it's 100 min 100 max.

Even if you do trip heat limiter your BIOS will shutdown before any damage is done. Don't set your laptop on the carpet or any material that hinders the cooling system.
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Posted December 26 2012 - 12:37 AM

 techno_destructo, on December 25 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

You silly laptop gamers. Your AC connected power settings should be 100% min 100% max for optimum performance. It doesn't mean that you will burn out your proc. Just remember to set your system cooling policy to Active. The power options are there to throttle your laptop to prolong battery life. You can set battery to whatever you want. Look at the high performance power plan, it's 100 min 100 max.

Even if you do trip heat limiter your BIOS will shutdown before any damage is done. Don't set your laptop on the carpet or any material that hinders the cooling system.

I beg to differ. If I were to run my laptop at 100% at minimum, I lose out on the 8 logic cores that my CPU sports.
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Posted December 26 2012 - 01:46 AM

How does that disable hyperthreading? Your processor has 4 physical cores and 8 threads. Are you talking about the turbo that regulates your core clock speed? You should disable that and run at maximum anyway.
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Posted March 18 2013 - 11:41 AM

 LoneSyndal, on December 26 2012 - 12:37 AM, said:

 techno_destructo, on December 25 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

You silly laptop gamers. Your AC connected power settings should be 100% min 100% max for optimum performance. It doesn't mean that you will burn out your proc. Just remember to set your system cooling policy to Active. The power options are there to throttle your laptop to prolong battery life. You can set battery to whatever you want. Look at the high performance power plan, it's 100 min 100 max.

Even if you do trip heat limiter your BIOS will shutdown before any damage is done. Don't set your laptop on the carpet or any material that hinders the cooling system.

I beg to differ. If I were to run my laptop at 100% at minimum, I lose out on the 8 logic cores that my CPU sports.
So first of all no, I have a laptop with an i7 and setting minimum to 100% will not turn off hyperthreading.  Turbo boost turns off hyperthreading so that it can run your laptop(or any other turbo boost capable processor) at over 100% (overclocks it) for single threaded application.  Also for the desktops, unless you are worried about power bills just keep the minimum at 100% it's not going to damage it or make it not last as long.  People have their processors overclocked by large amounts for years.

Well that is my 2 cents for the previous posts but now to get back on topic.  I have horrible FPS(mid 20's) in extreme situations only.  I have low GPU usage, high CPU usage. I haven't messed around with the settings much but I'm hoping to find a solution to get at least 30 FPS min.

Specs:
i5 3570K @ 4.2 GHz
8 GB of Ram @ 1866 MHZ
The game is on a Vertex 3 SSD
2 EVGA 660 SC in SLI
Monitor is 1080p
My network speed is 70 Mb/s down and 50 Mb/s up
....The rest does not matter

I have the game maxed out completely and I am always at 60 FPS(doesn't go higher because I V-Sync on) but once I get in close proximity with other people GPU usage drops and CPU usage is high.  So I think it's CPU bottleneck but if my processor struggling even with the OC do they expect us to spend $500+ for ridiculous processors to play at ok FPS.  I understand it's in beta but they should optimize what ever is causing the lag since I can't even play with the way it is.

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Posted April 25 2013 - 03:32 AM

Tried. The result was quite the oppiste. Now i don't go over 40 fps, go figure. I have this problem with every game, as much i'm using a topend gpu.
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Posted April 25 2013 - 06:10 AM

 Kronguard, on December 25 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

I wouldn't do that.....what you are doing is basically setting your minimum cpu power usage at 75%,it means that even when you are at desktop idling,your cpu is working as if it was at 75% usage,that means it will work harder all the time,and die alot faster than it would otherwise.

If this fixed your issue,it means that the game settings files have some wrong condition in them somewhere,but people,this is NOT a fix,this is how you burn out your processor,near max constant load equals hot temperatures for extensive amounts of time,you will fry your cpu.

I'm afraid that is where you are wrong. Provided you don't have a laptop OR a really old PC, you should be fine even if your CPU is ramped up to 100% 24/7. I use a Hyper 212+ on my 4Ghz Core 2 Duo and it's been fine for the ~4 years I've used it (It's been OC'ed for 2 years). Mind you this has been overvolted to 1.4V...

Unless the CPU is heavily overvolted/OC'ed, it should be fine provided the temperatures are below 80 degrees...

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Posted April 25 2013 - 06:12 AM

 G1zmo, on March 18 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:

 LoneSyndal, on December 26 2012 - 12:37 AM, said:

 techno_destructo, on December 25 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

You silly laptop gamers. Your AC connected power settings should be 100% min 100% max for optimum performance. It doesn't mean that you will burn out your proc. Just remember to set your system cooling policy to Active. The power options are there to throttle your laptop to prolong battery life. You can set battery to whatever you want. Look at the high performance power plan, it's 100 min 100 max.

Even if you do trip heat limiter your BIOS will shutdown before any damage is done. Don't set your laptop on the carpet or any material that hinders the cooling system.

I beg to differ. If I were to run my laptop at 100% at minimum, I lose out on the 8 logic cores that my CPU sports.
So first of all no, I have a laptop with an i7 and setting minimum to 100% will not turn off hyperthreading.  Turbo boost turns off hyperthreading so that it can run your laptop(or any other turbo boost capable processor) at over 100% (overclocks it) for single threaded application.  Also for the desktops, unless you are worried about power bills just keep the minimum at 100% it's not going to damage it or make it not last as long.  People have their processors overclocked by large amounts for years.

Well that is my 2 cents for the previous posts but now to get back on topic.  I have horrible FPS(mid 20's) in extreme situations only.  I have low GPU usage, high CPU usage. I haven't messed around with the settings much but I'm hoping to find a solution to get at least 30 FPS min.

Specs:
i5 3570K @ 4.2 GHz
8 GB of Ram @ 1866 MHZ
The game is on a Vertex 3 SSD
2 EVGA 660 SC in SLI
Monitor is 1080p
My network speed is 70 Mb/s down and 50 Mb/s up
....The rest does not matter

I have the game maxed out completely and I am always at 60 FPS(doesn't go higher because I V-Sync on) but once I get in close proximity with other people GPU usage drops and CPU usage is high.  So I think it's CPU bottleneck but if my processor struggling even with the OC do they expect us to spend $500+ for ridiculous processors to play at ok FPS.  I understand it's in beta but they should optimize what ever is causing the lag since I can't even play with the way it is.

Unreal Engine is infamous for being unoptimised ...

Don't turn Vsync on... Input lag is no fun... Also, do you play with Physx enabled? A single 660 should be able to max out the game no sweat. Try using the other one for dedicated Physx...

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Posted April 25 2013 - 08:26 AM

That doesn't work if you're an overclocker like myself. I can't underpower my CPU and still expect to get 4.2ghz. If you were to set your CPU voltage and frequency up, you should probably get the same result.




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