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#1 RozerMahbub_

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Posted February 06 2014 - 02:11 AM

why dev. do this in every patch to make scout......unplayable ..... :angry: .dmm.... i love u scout....i dont wanna lose u :wub: :(

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Posted February 06 2014 - 02:13 AM

I don't know the exact number of the scouts but it also feels like the HEAT does only 50% of its regular dmg.

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Posted February 06 2014 - 10:46 AM

Scout is still fine at least in pubs. Haven't played 6v6 team scrims yet.
But now the scout is really a "glass cannon". You will be punished for the smallest mistake. Just try to get rid of your "old" scout playstyle and adapt to the new gameplay.

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Posted February 06 2014 - 11:34 AM

View PostMobstarr, on February 06 2014 - 10:46 AM, said:

Scout is still fine at least in pubs. Haven't played 6v6 team scrims yet.
But now the scout is really a "glass cannon". You will be punished for the smallest mistake. Just try to get rid of your "old" scout playstyle and adapt to the new gameplay.
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Posted February 07 2014 - 04:26 AM

Scout is perfectly balanced in the new meta,  every mech is a glass cannon, the scout (and tech) are just the most fragile.  Its going to take time to re-learn every mech.

Tactical Positioning, using cover and flanking are the keys to playing Scout now (and every other A mech).  
If you fight in the open then of course a sniper is going to shoot you. So don't ! Go flank them and see how fragile they are too.

@Rozer,  at the TAW practice last night Eaxe was awesome in his scout,  he was playing hit and run and attacking the AA from the rear. Its still a beast, just a less dominating beast.

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Posted February 07 2014 - 04:33 AM

Scout still seems good. 2 Flak and 1 tow to kill any of the A class. Plus The Mini flak got buffed more and flak still has insane burst and dps. You might die quicker now but so does your opponents.
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#7 RozerMahbub_

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Posted February 07 2014 - 12:51 PM

View Postv009, on February 07 2014 - 04:33 AM, said:

Scout still seems good. 2 Flak and 1 tow to kill any of the A class. Plus The Mini flak got buffed more and flak still has insane burst and dps. You might die quicker now but so does your opponents.

before this patch i was gd to fight against 2 or three ( no hope to be alive  )but now its like death mach in TDM......wt do u think ? , ok 1 vs 1 its ok but when some one come its sure that i will die sooooon .....(sorry for my eng) :( :mellow:

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Posted February 07 2014 - 01:14 PM

View PostRozerMahbub1, on February 07 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:

before this patch i was gd to fight against 2 or three ( no hope to be alive  )but now its like death mach in TDM......wt do u think ? , ok 1 vs 1 its ok but when some one come its sure that i will die sooooon .....(sorry for my eng) :( :mellow:

If you are alone and have to face multiple enemys you already trapped into your first mistake. Stick with your team or at least 1-2 mates. If you want to do a flank^attack, be sure the enemy team wont take notice of your and your mates presence until you do the first shot. Try to wait for them to attack at the front, so they will be distracted by that fight. Then your chances are even higher to kill someone. Even multiple enemys. Stay until you get spotted, make a quick decision based on the situation between staying to fight or leaven asap.

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Posted February 07 2014 - 01:31 PM

View PostRozerMahbub1, on February 07 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:


before this patch i was gd to fight against 2 or three ( no hope to be alive  )but now its like death mach in TDM......wt do u think ? , ok 1 vs 1 its ok but when some one come its sure that i will die sooooon .....(sorry for my eng) :( :mellow:

2v1 will depend on your own skill and the opponents skill. Also you will need a bit of luck too :) Head on you shouldn't be able to stand a chance unless they are so bad that they miss a lot or you are just so good you glide past their weapons and show them who the boss is. Unfortunately I cannot give you an answer from experiencing 2v1 in the new patch.

One advice I can give you is keep playing the game and think of it as you just started playing the game.
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Posted February 09 2014 - 10:58 PM

The scout is still super epic. You just can't charge in an A class anymore, as it should be. Leave that to the C classes. Before you engage think is this a good idea? Remember that boosting makes you show up on radar so be sure to walk when you are setting up an ambush. A classes are about hit and run play them that way.
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You're exactly right.

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Posted February 10 2014 - 08:58 AM

Scout needed nerf. It was a go to mech. There shouldnt be any one go to mech. All mechs should be viable to use anytime.

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Posted February 10 2014 - 09:25 AM

At least the nerfed hestoned. He doesn't get as high scores now, he usually plays grenadier now

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Posted February 10 2014 - 12:01 PM

i think the raider is the better scout, because when i buy the scout i though that i will drive fast and don´t run fast out f fuel (because of it´s MEGA tank in his face) hmm wasn´t so...and this mini fuzzy bunny gun doesn´t make any damage

#14 RozerMahbub_

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Posted February 10 2014 - 05:16 PM

i was wrong......scout is the best :ph34r:

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Posted February 10 2014 - 08:43 PM

View PostRozerMahbub1, on February 10 2014 - 05:16 PM, said:

i was wrong......scout is the best :ph34r:
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Posted February 17 2014 - 10:32 AM

I unlocked the Scout as my second mech and I kinda regret it. I can't seem to kill anyone 1v1 in a quick engagement. It's supposed to be a burst damage assassin but I have to actually chase people down and continuously blast them with that fuzzy bunny mini-flak cannon to actually kill them all while trying not to get hit because it dies to a sneeze. The Scout seems to only be good for cleaning up nearly dead escapees because it can chase them down easily.

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Posted February 17 2014 - 11:58 AM

View PostRozerMahbub1, on February 06 2014 - 02:11 AM, said:

why dev. do this in every patch to make scout......unplayable ..... :angry: .dmm.... i love u scout....i dont wanna lose u :wub: :(

Personally I feel the Scout is amazing. Hard to play at times but very rewarding. I would hardly call it unplayable. It seems to have put the Scout on an even footing with the rest of the mech since the update. It is personal skill that seems to make the difference in any battle.

I have switched over to the Flak and found that to be very good. I still have problems 1v1 a HEAT Scout, if it isn't a LOS battle.

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Posted February 17 2014 - 12:06 PM

View Postthatnewyorker, on February 17 2014 - 10:32 AM, said:

I unlocked the Scout as my second mech and I kinda regret it. I can't seem to kill anyone 1v1 in a quick engagement. It's supposed to be a burst damage assassin but I have to actually chase people down and continuously blast them with that fuzzy bunny mini-flak cannon to actually kill them all while trying not to get hit because it dies to a sneeze. The Scout seems to only be good for cleaning up nearly dead escapees because it can chase them down easily.

Here are some really good Scout videos.
Try using the Flak cannon it has quite a bit more power for the situations you describe.

I am a Scout player myself and working on getting better.

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Posted February 17 2014 - 01:54 PM

View PostDesert_Fox2, on February 17 2014 - 12:06 PM, said:


Try using the Flak cannon it has quite a bit more power for the situations you describe.

I am a Scout player myself and working on getting better.

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Quite sure when most pilots unlock the Flak Cannon for scout they stop using Mini-Flak since it's much better for a 320 hp mech.
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Posted February 18 2014 - 08:32 PM

View PostDesert_Fox2, on February 17 2014 - 12:06 PM, said:

Try using the Flak cannon it has quite a bit more power for the situations you describe.

View PostStingz, on February 17 2014 - 01:54 PM, said:

Quite sure when most pilots unlock the Flak Cannon for scout they stop using Mini-Flak since it's much better for a 320 hp mech.

I must be weird because I prefer the mini-flak right now, but maybe that's because I have terrible aim :D

The scout takes a tremendous amount of skill to go 1v1. If you play a fast aggressive style you'll be able to hold your own against non-close-quarters mechs. Raiders will eat you alive if you don't get the jump on them. But that is the KEY to playing scout; situational awareness and stealth. Scouts are the fastest (I think) mech in the game, and if you don't boost and stick to side-routes the enemy won't see you coming. Flank when your team is heading the assult, you will devistate the enemies from behind before they have a chance to turn around. Quickly hit objectives and pull back before the enemy has time to retaliate.

The scout is my fav mech right now, love this thing.





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