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#1 Raex

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Posted September 18 2012 - 06:03 AM

I have no idea what the in game clan UI will look like, but here are a few ideas.

1. Clan Ranking
- Most games don't offer a concrete Clan ranking board for overall clan stats in fps games. I would love to see some sort of ranking system for clans that showed an average of the clan members scores totaled together in a ranking system.

-Rank the clans based on clan size i.e. 8 and under members and 9 and over. This can pit smaller clans against each other and create more competitive battles between those clans. Makes for a great UN-official league within the game where those clans challenge each other for bragging rights.

-Clans can see who their best members are. Want to kick out the weak link? Here are the stats of your super troops and here are the stats of your duds. Get rid of the duds and recruit a better army.

2. Grouping.
-Grouping in a lot of games doesn't seem to take clans into account. I understand the concept of miss balanced games when a bunch of regular pubbers are up against an organized voip clan. Its not fair. Change up the lobby filters to add more rooms that allow for grouping based on clans, this automatically groups same clan players on the same team AND puts higher level players against them without compromising the room. It may be more challenging for the clan, but that is the fallback to being on a well organized team.

-Bringing back the clan ranking idea mixed with grouping can allow for clans to rank against other clans. This feature can be seen in L4D2 where they have a category for game matching with friends only. The same concept can be converted to Clan matching where your clan plays another and the scores are totaled and saved at the end for all to see. (games own league play built in.)

3. Insignia
-Clans should have options for Clan Tags that are not available to other players. If a clan picks a tag they should have it locked down from other clans being able to select. I am not just talking about Acronyms I'm also talking about logos like Blacklight Retribution and Exteel. The image icon should represent the clan as the sole symbol of their reign against other clans. This can be given as a reward to the top ranking clans of the game, lets say the top 100. If your clan has an emblem it warns others that you are a die hard player and motivates you to keep that emblem.

-Rewards for players is always something most games supply in levels and in p2p items. Why not incorporate the reward system into player skill and dedication to the game. Supplying a clan with an emblem that can be taken away if they don't work to keep it could be a good motivator.

Just some ideas
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Posted September 18 2012 - 11:17 AM

I like the idea of an insignia, but the creation of it would be rather difficult, right? You'd probably be able to customize foreground, background, and color, not much room for creativity there, unless there's a better way that I'm overlooking (which I probably am).

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Posted September 18 2012 - 11:38 AM

Something like the insignia feature on COD: Black ops would take a lot of work but would be really cool.
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Posted September 18 2012 - 11:44 AM

If they did make an insignia type thing, am I the only one that would prefer a grid-like selection system where you can look at miniature thumbnails of your choices, rather than having to cycle through the options one at a time?

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Posted September 18 2012 - 11:47 AM

No you are not.
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Posted September 18 2012 - 05:55 PM

Or make it no different than uploading an Avatar to your forum profile.  If they have a database they can pull just about everything.
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Posted September 18 2012 - 05:56 PM

You should submit this to them...
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#8 ModnarSarhp

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Posted September 18 2012 - 07:41 PM

I'm not sure allowing players to upload their own insignia is the greatest idea in the world, people can be fairly stupid with things like that, and as a person who loves role-play, some of the personal uploads may not be "period."

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Posted September 18 2012 - 07:54 PM

Well if you're limiting the number of clans that can have these, as suggested in the original idea, then make it so they have to be approved by someone at meteor. That way things don't get out of hand. I do agree that allowing everyone to upload their own insignia would be way too much though.

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Posted September 18 2012 - 08:04 PM

Well that would mean we're looking at 25 clans already, at least ones who posted a thread, and the beta hasnt even started. Who would receive it and who wouldn't? Make it a purchasable item, and have the user themselves change the insignia they want on their mech.

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Posted September 18 2012 - 08:12 PM

I believe it was suggested that it be reserved for top ranking clans only, which might be cool, or have there be some sort of in game checkpoint the clan as a whole must accomplish in order to receive the privilege.

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Posted September 18 2012 - 08:29 PM

Is that really fair to those of us who aren't in this for a rank? I'd like to think that the casual players could grab the same things that the hardcore players have. I mean, is this really going to be a thing reserved for gaming teams that work hard in not just this game but other games as well just to stay at the top of the charts? Not to mention the fact that some have alpha codes already and are now fully capable of grabbing a few wins before I see a loading screen. I'm all for keeping score of stats and everything, but if we're running dedicated servers, as it has mostly been suggested, it also seems like quite a difficult task to moderator to keep track of matches and who is winning where. And, we saw in LoL pro gamers throw games...and they were nationally televised...err streamed, not even a private dedicated server.

Don't make it something you win to get, make it something you play to get. This game is for fun and I shouldn't be yelled at for trying out a new build for a mech like in all these other games where e-points mean everything. You suggest a checkpoint, and that would be cool if it were defined a bit more. I'd rather it be an individual one. Play 100/200 games. Yes, people who play nonstop will grab it quicker, but at least it doesn't matter if you win or lose...you're just playing the game. Pun totally intended.

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Posted September 18 2012 - 08:32 PM

I too, personally, would prefer some sort of checkpoint, I love competitive games, but not everyone is that good, and no game wants to make those people feel left out. However having to earn a clan insignia is definitely something I agree with, If I can distinguish between serious players and silly people, I like to have things like that.

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Posted September 19 2012 - 05:48 AM

For sure individual players should have rewards as well for competing levels and if there are pay options to unlock banners or insignias for individuals i think they would benefit as a company in monetary increase as well as player benefits.

The topic i started specifically to comment on CLAN elements. I feel there are so many options for the competitive players that are missed forcing many competitive players to end up in regular *pubber* rooms either upsetting the new players or off setting the balance of a game.

Modnar you make some good points i def think an uploaded clan insignia by players would be cool but I'm sure they can have enough from the company made that fit the motif of the game itself. Look at Blacklight Retribution for a good example of how insignias work in that game. Its a free game btw and doesn't take much time to download. Now take that game and imagine it with mech characters. You are looking at a very similar game to this one.
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Posted September 19 2012 - 06:03 AM

Maybe something like Founders clans?

Clans get special recognition for being involved in the game before the release of it, so they get something special like the privilege to upload their own avatar.

Just throwing out ideas.

Edited by Ezio, September 19 2012 - 06:04 AM.

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Posted September 19 2012 - 02:48 PM

come down and join us at K-2 ( RED FOX ) we are a well oild machine of death and distruction where we go you will always now that the RED HOUND has been around leaveing so foot steps behind
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Posted September 19 2012 - 09:30 PM

Thank you for not sticking to the topic of the thread, I love being recruited while talking about something unrelated.


We'll probably just have to see, if anything I'd like to have a personal symbol option as well, but that might make the importance of an actual clan insignia go down.

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Posted September 20 2012 - 05:29 AM

Yeah what is with the clan recruitment. 90% of you guys are gonna disband and form other clans when the game starts anyway :oP.

But yeah it would be great to see more about clan development. Any one have any good links ?
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Posted September 20 2012 - 09:23 AM

I think independent clan ranking would be for the best. It is going to be difficult enough for mods to deal with 100+ clans going into the beta (it's a guestimate considering that we have about 30 and the alpha is closed). Independent ranking also allows for different parameters to be made for each, which will allow clans that have hundreds of okay members to be on top on one end, and a team of 8 elite members to be atop on another. It also allows for the players to moderate each other, and any indespancies will go against the independent site, not the actual game (which is incredibly important considering that anything can go down with a private dedicated server that wasn’t fully streamed.) It also seems that people have already been making some sites to host something like this: http://community.pla...mpetition-site/ .

As for stats, I’m sure the more serious clans would make a site to see who is providing what each game. Sometimes a player has a bad day, so if the game provides a stat page at the end of each game, it’ll be easy to PrtScn each game for everyone’s own records. I wouldn’t mind individual records, but this just takes into account each team battle.

I like the idea of grouping. If there was a feature that linked a premade 4 man team in an 8 v. 8, I’d hope it would like another 4 man or a 3 man premade on the other team. It really is the difference if a teammate can report where someone is on TS/Skype

An idea I’d like to bring up is a separate subforum for clan news, meaning taking clan hall out of the colony hub and making clan hall it’s own. Making it a category and separate it into three parts: Clan news, Clan Recruiting, Looking for Group, and Clan Links.

Clan news is obvious. Personal fights between clans could have topics showing upcoming fights and results. If there is a spectator function added to games, we could be watching top clans go at it in head to head, and giving the time for fights would draw a crowd. Bragging rights could be given for the results of each fight. Introductions to each clan could be given here, as well as any merges of clans or disbandment. Clan Recruiting will keep the news separate from people spamming each thread with their own personal message. If the mods could make it an unwritten law to only bump a thread every hour, that would be great. Looking for Group is another obvious one. If a player is feeling left out, they could post here and see what clans are willing to offer them in their own thread.

Clan Links is for one single post in one single thread. A clan leader can post their forum link, their roster, their leadership, and how to contact them for a challenge. A mod could lock this, and the only one that could edit it would be the leader from that point on. This way, if you need to get ahold of a clan, you could go to this subforum and easily search their name.

Edited by Mykep, September 20 2012 - 09:25 AM.

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Posted September 20 2012 - 09:28 AM

View PostTLRXGLADIATORX, on September 19 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

come down and join us at K-2 ( RED FOX ) we are a well oild machine of death and distruction where we go you will always now that the RED HOUND has been around leaveing so foot steps behind
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