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Two entirely non detrimental, non balance affecting recommendations for Hawken.


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#1 ticklemyiguana

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Posted May 07 2014 - 09:13 PM

1. Customizable Collapsible/Expandable Mech Menu

Pretty self explanatory, but if anyone needs clarification it's basically like creating new folders within your OS. You make one for A mechs, then you have a list, and if you have multiples of a single mech you can make a subfolder for that. Just... Hawkenize it so it appears right.

The need? Can't fit all the mechs on the screen, looks cluttery, would make things simpler.

2. In Game Five Star Difficulty Ratings for Mechs

Predator: Five stars.
Scout: whatever
everything else, whatever. I can't say that I know how to balance this right, but even a generally agreed upon level of subjectivity might go a little to a long way to decreasing the weekly "fuzzy bunny THE PREDATOR" threads.
As SoldierHobbes11 has pointed out below, the system could be applied to weapons as well.

The need? Newer people won't inadvertently spend thousands of HC on mechs that are going to be difficult to learn, and if they do, they can a) be like "Hey, well, the game did warn me." or 2) (b+ end parenthesis= B))get told to look at the ratings when they come to the forums screaming.

That's all. Two simple ideas.

Edited by ticklemyiguana, May 08 2014 - 04:33 PM.

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#2 Beefsweat

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Posted May 07 2014 - 10:29 PM

+1, I think these ideas would definitely benefit the game. In previous builds of the game all mechs used to have a 5-star difficulty rating, I'm not sure/never heard why they got rid of that.
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#3 HadronVictorioso

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Posted May 08 2014 - 03:10 AM

I support both of these ideas, they're good ideas.

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Posted May 08 2014 - 12:02 PM

I like both of ideas, though the folders are a bit of a band-aid, as I'd prefer a menu/UI rework instead.
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#5 ticklemyiguana

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Posted May 08 2014 - 12:31 PM

View Posteth0, on May 08 2014 - 12:02 PM, said:

I like both of ideas, though the folders are a bit of a band-aid, as I'd prefer a menu/UI rework instead.
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Oh yes, I don't intend in any way for them to be actual folders where you double click and whatnot. I'm envisioning it pretty much exactly as is, except where you would click on one mech, you would instead click on something you've organized, and either a drop down menu comes out or it just expands to the right or left on the same bar that all the mechs already are.
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Posted May 08 2014 - 12:37 PM

I like this idea. Help to organize our garage a little better when in the main menu or spawning in a game. Also, the difficulty rating should not only apply to the mechs alone, but to weapons as well. Just like some mechs are easier to pilot than others, some weapons are easier to use than others as well.
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Posted May 08 2014 - 12:39 PM

View Postticklemyiguana, on May 08 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:

View Posteth0, on May 08 2014 - 12:02 PM, said:

I like both of ideas, though the folders are a bit of a band-aid, as I'd prefer a menu/UI rework instead.
Devs hear our cry!
Oh yes, I don't intend in any way for them to be actual folders where you double click and whatnot. I'm envisioning it pretty much exactly as is, except where you would click on one mech, you would instead click on something you've organized, and either a drop down menu comes out or it just expands to the right or left on the same bar that all the mechs already are.

Pretty much as I imagined. What I'm saying is that the garage wouldn't look so cluttery to begin with if there was a "better" UI. Using folders to organize the current garage would work well.
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#8 ticklemyiguana

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Posted May 08 2014 - 12:41 PM

View PostSoldierHobbes11, on May 08 2014 - 12:37 PM, said:

I like this idea. Help to organize our garage a little better when in the main menu or spawning in a game. Also, the difficulty rating should not only apply to the mechs alone, but to weapons as well. Just like some mechs are easier to pilot than others, some weapons are easier to use than others as well.
I was actually intending to add that in there. EOC repeater=5 stars, Assault rifle/SMC=1 star.
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Posted May 08 2014 - 12:45 PM

View Postticklemyiguana, on May 08 2014 - 12:41 PM, said:

View PostSoldierHobbes11, on May 08 2014 - 12:37 PM, said:

I like this idea. Help to organize our garage a little better when in the main menu or spawning in a game. Also, the difficulty rating should not only apply to the mechs alone, but to weapons as well. Just like some mechs are easier to pilot than others, some weapons are easier to use than others as well.
I was actually intending to add that in there. EOC repeater=5 stars, Assault rifle/SMC=1 star.

EOC's not that hard unless you're using it in direct combat. Kinda like the Sticky Launcher from TF2.

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Posted May 08 2014 - 12:50 PM

View Postticklemyiguana, on May 08 2014 - 12:41 PM, said:

View PostSoldierHobbes11, on May 08 2014 - 12:37 PM, said:

I like this idea. Help to organize our garage a little better when in the main menu or spawning in a game. Also, the difficulty rating should not only apply to the mechs alone, but to weapons as well. Just like some mechs are easier to pilot than others, some weapons are easier to use than others as well.
I was actually intending to add that in there. EOC repeater=5 stars, Assault rifle/SMC=1 star.
Yeah, I'm actually making a series of videos on all the mechs and their weapons. I was gonna include a difficulty scaling on the mechs and weapons, but it would be nice to have a rating system already in place from the devs. Any rating system made by a community member would probably be baised in most cases.
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Posted May 08 2014 - 01:01 PM

These suggestions are delicioso. For the garage organizer what if it was done need for speed/midnight club style were you rotate through the mechs. You could have the "folders" change vertically and then move through that folder horizontally. Just a thought, I don't know how resource heavy that might end up being, but it would probably look fancy.

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Posted May 08 2014 - 04:31 PM

These are great. I would just love a garage UI rework, anything works so long as it isn't all the mechs listed in one long line that I have to scroll across. Sometimes it gets annoying...

But most of all, difficulty ratings! This would be a godsend for newer players wondering what mech to purchase next. Clearly, any mech can be played to perfection in the hands of a skilled player, even the 'easy' ones. But this would be more for the new players. Perfect!




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