HAWKEN servers are up and our latest minor update is live!
Forgot Password? SUPPORT REDEEM CODE

Jump to content


It is obvious infiltrator mech is to fast


  • Please log in to reply
45 replies to this topic

#1 Cyberpunk

Cyberpunk

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 83 posts
  • LocationLas vegas,NV

Posted November 22 2012 - 03:51 AM

This is not a rant but a observation since the alpha.The infiltrtor mechs dodge time between dodges needs to be increased.Iam seeing way way to many infiltrator mecs going 20k/0d,25k/0d,etc.Yes these people do have skills but it is obvious that its almost always(%95 of the time) a infiltrator mech and that alone sends up a flag,i could see if there was a mix of other mechs also getting these o death matches but theres not.

Thank you


Let the negative comments begin :)

Edited by Cyberpunk, November 22 2012 - 03:52 AM.

GAMING RIG SPECS:
Intel Core i5-760 2.8Ghz quad core
Patriot i5 Viper II 1600Mhz 8GB
EVGA P55 mobo
ASUS Nvidia GeForce GTX 560 Ti
1TB HARD-DRIVE
windows 7 64BIT

#2 h0B0

h0B0

    Non Sequitur Leprechaun

  • Full Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4,143 posts
  • Location[delete for trolling] --defter

Posted November 22 2012 - 04:01 AM

A class mech have the most mobility and the lowest armor.
i don't see much of a problem here.

Click me! I dare you.

Posted Image

View Post[HWK]HUGHES, on March 15 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

Oh don't always listen to h0B0. Lol.


#3 Juodvarnis

Juodvarnis

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,126 posts
  • LocationGrand Duchy of Lithuania

Posted November 22 2012 - 04:06 AM

Yeah, the problem in my opinion is that they dont need continuous firing, they dodge from cover, shoot HEAT and Grenade, dodge back to cover, dodge back out shoot another round of HEAT and 'Nade and the enemy is down. If instead they were forced to use less burst damage more sustained weaponry, because their high speed, maneuverability and the ability to cloak (more importantly - from radar than visual) gives them the first shot on the target.

And i don't think they're too fast, i think everything else (especially C-class) are just too slow. No idea why they made them EVEN SLOWER this phase of Beta.
Posted Image
*sigh*

#4 h0B0

h0B0

    Non Sequitur Leprechaun

  • Full Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4,143 posts
  • Location[delete for trolling] --defter

Posted November 22 2012 - 04:32 AM

They made them slightly slower but gave them the ability to dodge a lot more often compared to CBE2

If an infiltrator needs to stay behind cover to be effective, team up with a teammate and flank him.

Thats like saying sharpshooter is OP becaus it can camp one side of the map and zoom in its weapons.

Learn to adapt and counter your opponent and you will find infiltrators arent that bad.

Click me! I dare you.

Posted Image

View Post[HWK]HUGHES, on March 15 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

Oh don't always listen to h0B0. Lol.


#5 ArnieF4440

ArnieF4440

    Muscles

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,198 posts
  • LocationDown Under/invading US west servers

Posted November 22 2012 - 04:58 AM

No problem here, loving the new speed. If anything, mini flak on the scout XD

Edited by ArnieF4440, November 22 2012 - 04:59 AM.

Posted Image
Me: Youtube | Drop Bears
Guides: Hawken Tips and Tricks | Fraps + Compression | Lag + Gaming
Rig: i7-920 + H50 | MSI X58A-GD45 | Corsair Dominator 12GB | 2x EVGA GTX 660TI SC+ 3GB | OCZ Vertex 2 120GB | Corsair HX1000 | CM HAF932

#6 kootset

kootset

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 59 posts
  • LocationFinland

Posted November 22 2012 - 05:00 AM

View PostJuodvarnis, on November 22 2012 - 04:06 AM, said:

Yeah, the problem in my opinion is that they dont need continuous firing, they dodge from cover, shoot HEAT and Grenade, dodge back to cover, dodge back out shoot another round of HEAT and 'Nade and the enemy is down. If instead they were forced to use less burst damage more sustained weaponry, because their high speed, maneuverability and the ability to cloak (more importantly - from radar than visual) gives them the first shot on the target.

And i don't think they're too fast, i think everything else (especially C-class) are just too slow. No idea why they made them EVEN SLOWER this phase of Beta.

That seems one boring way to play with infiltrator, i just push on with assault rifle as my main using cloak and items tactically. and man its fun. Over the last CB events i made it out with kpd total over 4 playing only siege mode.

#7 Cyberpunk

Cyberpunk

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 83 posts
  • LocationLas vegas,NV

Posted November 22 2012 - 05:01 AM

Maybe it is the balancing of all mech classes that is making this happen.It needs to be looked into,somebody getting these o death matches over and over again with the infiltrator mech i think is ridiculous.But how does not just me but match after match with skilled players,not be able to kill these guys not even 1 time?how do you not see this as a problem?

Edited by Cyberpunk, November 22 2012 - 05:02 AM.

GAMING RIG SPECS:
Intel Core i5-760 2.8Ghz quad core
Patriot i5 Viper II 1600Mhz 8GB
EVGA P55 mobo
ASUS Nvidia GeForce GTX 560 Ti
1TB HARD-DRIVE
windows 7 64BIT

#8 Cyberpunk

Cyberpunk

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 83 posts
  • LocationLas vegas,NV

Posted November 22 2012 - 05:30 AM

ooook,i see what the problem is now with the infiltrator.Right after i posted this i decided to go buy a infiltrator mech and play with it.And just after a couple hours of playing with it,i was dominating,not 0 death matches but very good at the least.The T.O.W launcher is crazy powerful and not even using damage boost ability,that with fast movement speed and dodge,infiltrator mech seemed significantly more powerful than my sharpshooter mech i usually play with by far.And that was only a couple hours of playing with it :huh:
GAMING RIG SPECS:
Intel Core i5-760 2.8Ghz quad core
Patriot i5 Viper II 1600Mhz 8GB
EVGA P55 mobo
ASUS Nvidia GeForce GTX 560 Ti
1TB HARD-DRIVE
windows 7 64BIT

#9 Cyclonus

Cyclonus

    Advanced Member

  • Full Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 486 posts

Posted November 22 2012 - 08:25 AM

the infiltrator doesn't have a T.O.W. Cyber.

#10 Juodvarnis

Juodvarnis

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,126 posts
  • LocationGrand Duchy of Lithuania

Posted November 22 2012 - 08:33 AM

View PostCyclonus, on November 22 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

the infiltrator doesn't have a T.O.W. Cyber.
Grenade launcher is in my honest opinion a better weapon anyway.
Posted Image
*sigh*

#11 AsianJoyKiller

AsianJoyKiller

    Lithium Cellophane Unicorn Salad

  • Full Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 8,011 posts
  • LocationWI

Posted November 22 2012 - 10:39 AM

OP complains about Infiltrator.
Doesn't even know what an Infiltrator's loadout is.
GG.
You fail.

[HWK]HUGHES, on July 03 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

AJK is right

The Sinful Infil HEAT Cannon Hustler, Cloaking and Smoking, C-Class Swagger, Ballin' n' Brawlin'


#12 BuDeKai

BuDeKai

    Some Guy

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 641 posts

Posted November 22 2012 - 10:50 AM

ya all further opinions of someone who doesnt know wat 3 weapons belong to the mech they are complaining about are invalid. plz follow me into a game and ill show u the grenidier can slay just as well as the inf. heat cannon SOO GOOD

Posted Image

ive started streaming. the quality is fuzzy bunny but id appreciate any support
http://www.twitch.tv/budekai
also be sure to tune into The COCKPIT Hawken show! ---> http://community.pla...astshow-121212/

#13 Kyrzon

Kyrzon

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 283 posts
  • LocationDes Moines, WA

Posted November 22 2012 - 12:00 PM

View PostBuDeKai, on November 22 2012 - 10:50 AM, said:

ya all further opinions of someone who doesnt know wat 3 weapons belong to the mech they are complaining about are invalid. plz follow me into a game and ill show u the grenidier can slay just as well as the inf. heat cannon SOO GOOD

What I think is hilarious; the guy insists that he and whatever friends he's playing with are skilled. Infiltrators melt under a lot, they're like a small dog that likes to bark a lot and nip at your heels; if you let them continue to nip, they're going to draw blood. Turn and yell at them for a second and they'll run away, let them do it too long though and they'll know you don't have anything to back up your yell.

#14 Titzilla

Titzilla

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 72 posts
  • LocationBehind Cover

Posted November 22 2012 - 12:05 PM

I honestly don't know what games the OP is playing for there to be 25-0 games for infiltrators. The players has to be pretty damn good to get those scores. I see a lot more rocketeers and scouts nearing those ratios than infiltrators.

Also if you're comparing anything to sharpshooter at the moment, it's likely you'll find them to be better. It's been a general consensus that the sharpshooter has been nerfed a great deal.
Posted Image

#15 NotKjell

NotKjell

    Advanced Member

  • Full Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 436 posts

Posted November 22 2012 - 12:21 PM

View PostTitzilla, on November 22 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:

I honestly don't know what games the OP is playing for there to be 25-0 games for infiltrators. The players has to be pretty damn good to get those scores. I see a lot more rocketeers and scouts nearing those ratios than infiltrators.

Also if you're comparing anything to sharpshooter at the moment, it's likely you'll find them to be better. It's been a general consensus that the sharpshooter has been nerfed a great deal.

He was playing me when he first said exactly this after the game. Also I'm not worried about the strength of infiltrator-everything is strong in the right hands. I've been making note to play with people my level more, and many mechs can compete in an infiltrator just fine.

Posted Image


High-level Hawken discussion and play wednesdays at 7:00 PST http://www.twitch.tv/thecockpit

#16 dirty0harry

dirty0harry

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 42 posts
  • LocationChesterfield

Posted November 22 2012 - 01:11 PM

I love my Infiltrator and my Infiltrator loves me :)

#17 marshalade

marshalade

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 946 posts
  • LocationGasland, Pa, USA

Posted November 22 2012 - 01:19 PM

View PostNotKjell, on November 22 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

He was playing me when he first said exactly this after the game. Also I'm not worried about the strength of infiltrator-everything is strong in the right hands. I've been making note to play with people my level more, and many mechs can compete in an infiltrator just fine.

...How did I know you had something to do with this?

Nope, OP, infiltrator is doing just fine.


View Posth0B0, on November 22 2012 - 04:32 AM, said:

Learn to adapt and counter your opponent and you will find infiltrators arent that bad.

Mini-flak destroys my Infil, and I absolutely dread coming across Grenadiers.

I can tear you to pieces 1v1, but grab a competent friend and I'm done...these things aren't too hard to figure out.

Posted Image
A tidal wave of marshalade...


#18 Coot

Coot

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 172 posts
  • LocationToronto, ON

Posted November 22 2012 - 02:40 PM

Since the buff to other weapons/mechs the infil is in a pretty good spot atm.

People who cry OP are generally newer players as quick dodging between heat/GL shots on people who treat their mechs as stationary targets is very strong.

Going against players who are experienced in other mechs the playing field seems to even out.

#19 Kyrzon

Kyrzon

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 283 posts
  • LocationDes Moines, WA

Posted November 22 2012 - 02:46 PM

Playing as an infil helps as well because you learn first hand what the delay and cycle is between charged heat shots, giving you an advantage even over those playing infil because you know when its going to come and can dodge preemptively. If they fire, they miss. If they wait for the dodge, it's still bought you more time than successive heat rounds would have granted.

#20 PiVoR

PiVoR

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 349 posts
  • LocationPoland

Posted November 22 2012 - 09:46 PM

FOTMs this CBE are Flak Scouts and Rocketeers with Seeker.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

ript type="text/javascript"> jqnc(function() { activeNavs('community','forums'); });