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#1 Umbre

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Posted September 24 2013 - 04:02 PM

New crosshair is difficult to see and gets lost in the chaos.

Old crosshair was too visible, to the point of being bulky and obtrusive.


Solution: Use/Create your own crosshair!

Using a custom overlay for Mumble, I designed my own crosshair based off one of the default Quake 3 CPMA crosshairs available.

Here are some screenshots and videos showcasing the end result:

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I found I could maintain a higher level of accuracy with greater consistency than the Ascension crosshair. The only downside is that at this time I am unsure as to whether or not individual HUD elements can be disabled.

Installation:

First, you want to have Mumble installed.

Then you'll want to download THIS. It contains the Mumble overlay file you'll need, as well as some crosshairs. It comes with several stock crosshairs, but I added my own under the names HAWKEN 01-03.

You can extract the contents anywhere, so long as you know how to access the files. I personally keep them in my Mumble directory.

Launch Mumble and configure the settings found in the "Overlay" tab (You might have to enable advanced options to see this). Make sure the "Enable Overlay" box is ticked, then click "Load" and search for the file named "xhair1.mumblelay" where you previously extracted the files to.

Finally, click on "Configure" on the main Mumble window and change your avatar to whatever crosshair you wish to use.

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Once you have all this set up, you'll have to connect to a Mumble server for the overlay to render.

Please see the author's ReadMe provided in the overlay download for any extra help.


I hope I was able to help you all with this relatively simple crosshair fix. I know some people in particular suffer from colour blindness, so I'll be glad if this was an adequate solution.

#2 HideyoshiYaoi

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Posted September 24 2013 - 04:05 PM

xacius started a thread like this

moderators deleted it

it's technically cheating

#3 Umbre

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Posted September 24 2013 - 04:11 PM

View PostHideyoshiYaoi, on September 24 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

it's technically cheating

How so?

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Posted September 24 2013 - 04:17 PM

HERE WE GO.

I like the reticle, though.

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Posted September 24 2013 - 04:19 PM

pro stuff ^^

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Posted September 24 2013 - 04:20 PM

View PostHideyoshiYaoi, on September 24 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

xacius started a thread like this

moderators deleted it

it's technically cheating
Maybe under an outright draconian definition of "cheating", the kind that could become a PR problem for them, but I would hope they would be smarter than that.  Coming down on players for UI adjustments is right up there on the classic "Big List of Stupid Mistakes Game Companies Make That Bite Them In The Ass".

PC gamers are picky about their UI.  People making their own, even by weird workarounds, is inevitable.

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Posted September 24 2013 - 04:33 PM

View PostWarlordZ, on September 24 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

People making their own, even by weird workarounds, is inevitable.

People also make aimbots for exactly the same reasons.

The fact that is doable =/= the fact that it is supported by HWK. It states explicitly in the EULA that using third party software to gain an advantage is against the rules.

Honestly i'd rather stay out of this debate the line defining cheating is a very blurry line and many of us will have different opinions. I think however that the fact that the last thread covering this was deleted is a sign that HWK does not want this advertised.

Edit: for the sake of clarity, what i am talking about is the fact that justifying something by the logic that "anyone can do it" doesn't make it supported, encouraged or "OK".

Edited by h0B0, September 24 2013 - 05:25 PM.

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View Post[HWK]HUGHES, on March 15 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

Oh don't always listen to h0B0. Lol.


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Posted September 24 2013 - 04:37 PM

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I also play on "PoundSignYoloSwag" (Assault/G2 Assault) and "FriendshipIsMagic" (Rocketeer) But haven't been able to add them to my Sig yet due to computer problems.

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Posted September 24 2013 - 04:40 PM

Welp devs can't detect it or stop me.  So here we go!

Also if you think this is cheating you must think this is better than the vanilla crosshair so thanks for the complement.

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Posted September 24 2013 - 04:41 PM

View Posth0B0, on September 24 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

View PostWarlordZ, on September 24 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

People making their own, even by weird workarounds, is inevitable.

People also make aimbots for exactly the same reasons.

The fact that is doable =/= the fact that it is supported by HWK. It states explicitly in the EULA that using third party software to gain an advantage is against the rules.

Honestly i'd rather stay out of this debate the line defining cheating is a very blurry line and many of us will have different opinions. I think however that the fact that the last thread covering this was deleted is a sign that HWK does not want this advertised.
If they want to give us a sign, they should come right out and say whether or not this is considered cheating.
Making us guess is stupid. We're not mind readers.

Besides, if was the moderators who deleted the thread, it's even less clear what the official stance was, as the Mods operate on their own, and how they moderate is dictated by the rules and EULA, and not the official nuanced stance of ADH. They do the best they can with what they have, but they can't really make judgement calls about things like this, as they're not involved in the development.

[HWK]HUGHES, on July 03 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

AJK is right

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Posted September 24 2013 - 04:44 PM

View Posth0B0, on September 24 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

It states explicitly in the EULA that using third party software to gain an advantage is against the rules.

Remember kids, that also includes any voice comm overlay that could potentially display who is speaking via icon/name, and even framerate counters. You also may not utilize programs like Nvidia Inspector to modify texture LOD bias, AA settings, Anisotropic filtering, etc.

YOU ARE ALL CHEATERS!

Edited by Umbre, September 24 2013 - 04:44 PM.


#12 HatesYourFace

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Posted September 24 2013 - 04:44 PM

If it's not allowed by the EULA it's cheating. Pretty self explanatory.

Also...if you have to ask whether it's cheating or not there is a good chance that it is.
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I also play on "PoundSignYoloSwag" (Assault/G2 Assault) and "FriendshipIsMagic" (Rocketeer) But haven't been able to add them to my Sig yet due to computer problems.

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Posted September 24 2013 - 04:48 PM

View Posth0B0, on September 24 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

View PostWarlordZ, on September 24 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

People making their own, even by weird workarounds, is inevitable.
People also make aimbots for exactly the same reasons.

The fact that is doable =/= the fact that it is supported by HWK. It states explicitly in the EULA that using third party software to gain an advantage is against the rules.
You're comparing custom UIs to aimbots?  Seriously?

One is changing the look of things to suit your preferences, the other is a program that plays the game for you.  Those aren't even remotely similar.

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Posted September 24 2013 - 04:48 PM

Players wouldn't be doing this kind of nonsense if the devs get their fuzzy bunny together. It's really sad that people have to resort to this kind of workaround to play the game comfortably.

Edited by DarkSpock, September 24 2013 - 04:52 PM.


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Posted September 24 2013 - 04:50 PM

View PostHatesYourFace, on September 24 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

If it's not allowed by the EULA it's cheating. Pretty self explanatory.

Also...if you have to ask whether it's cheating or not there is a good chance that it is.
Hey guys how bout we just ignore the people who go "wawawa cheating".

Only reason the last thread was scrapped was because it started a flame war

So PLEASE ignore the rule scrubs and carry on

Edited by andythebomb, September 24 2013 - 04:52 PM.


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Posted September 24 2013 - 04:56 PM

View PostAsianJoyKiller, on September 24 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

If they want to give us a sign, they should come right out and say whether or not this is considered cheating.
Making us guess is stupid. We're not mind readers.
^This.

Before the last thread was deleted, I asked Hughes about it directly.
He hasn't gotten back to me yet.

If this is not okay, please just tell us. This sort of thing could help people with various forms of colorblindness play the game with zero effort required from the devs aside from someone saying "it's okay, you won't be banned if we find that you're using a custom crosshair."

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Posted September 24 2013 - 04:58 PM

View PostWarlordZ, on September 24 2013 - 04:48 PM, said:

One is changing the look of things to suit your preferences, the other is a program that plays the game for you.  Those aren't even remotely similar.

They are both 3rd party software. Therefore they share a considerable amount of similarity.

View PostUmbre, on September 24 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

YOU ARE ALL CHEATERS!

Potentially yes. But i am not here to call anyone a cheater, nor to define what is or isn't cheating.

Edit: from IRC (sorry ZC i await your statement with panty wetting anticipation)
[21:03] <ZamboniChaos> same goes for overlays
[21:03] <ZamboniChaos> or at least the crosshair stuff that's come up
[21:03] <ZamboniChaos> for now it's tolerated
[21:03] <ZamboniChaos> that may not always be the case

Edited by h0B0, September 24 2013 - 05:06 PM.

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View Post[HWK]HUGHES, on March 15 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

Oh don't always listen to h0B0. Lol.


#18 AsianJoyKiller

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Posted September 24 2013 - 05:07 PM

As Beemann just said in Mumble, if ADH says this is cheating, they're basically admitting that their crosshairs are terrible enough that a 3rd party overlay can give an advantage.

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AJK is right

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#19 [HWK]ZamboniChaos

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Posted September 24 2013 - 05:09 PM

Going to try and settle this here. These kinds of modifications are not supported by the HAWKEN Team. However we are not likely to take action unless players are using 3rd party software to gain clear, game-breaking advantages.

Pour yourself a drink, I'll sing you a song.


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Posted September 24 2013 - 05:10 PM

View PostAsianJoyKiller, on September 24 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:

As Beemann just said in Mumble, if ADH says this is cheating, they're basically admitting that their crosshairs are terrible enough that a 3rd party overlay can give an advantage.
isn't this what makes the whole thing hilarious?

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View Post[HWK]HUGHES, on March 15 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

Oh don't always listen to h0B0. Lol.





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