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#1 MedioMorde

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Posted January 25 2013 - 09:51 AM

Completely obsolete atm, Recruit is the exact same thing with free upgrades. Remove the assault mech or make it worthwhile please.

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Posted January 25 2013 - 09:54 AM

Some people like that chassis opposed to Fred. Just don't buy the Assault. There's no need to remove it.

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#3 MedioMorde

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Posted January 25 2013 - 09:55 AM

You can purchase a chassis for the Recruit and make it exactly the same, in form and function, minus the free upgrades you get for the Recruit. Usually obsolete products are discontinued.

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Posted January 25 2013 - 10:17 AM

I agree that they should do something to give you the reason to have an Assault Mech other than the looks.  

One suggestion is that the CR-T should lose the rookie internals after reaching some level.  You're not a rookie anymore and don't need the help.

Another suggestion is have the "prestige" weapons (for all mechs) be slightly better (i.e., a Level "4") than the same non-prestige weapon used by other mechs.  In other words the prestige Assault Rifle that a Level 25 Assault has would be slightly better than the CR-T AR.

BTW I bought an Assault before I knew it is actually worse than the CR-T (no rookie internals) but decided to level it to 25 anyway.

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Posted January 25 2013 - 10:20 AM

Maybe new weapons and new ability should resolve this problem.

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Posted January 25 2013 - 10:22 AM

View PostMajorMojo, on January 25 2013 - 10:17 AM, said:

One suggestion is that the CR-T should lose the rookie internals after reaching some level.  You're not a rookie anymore and don't need the help.

Yes.

View PostMajorMojo, on January 25 2013 - 10:17 AM, said:

Another suggestion is have the "prestige" weapons (for all mechs) be slightly better (i.e., a Level "4") than the same non-prestige weapon used by other mechs.  In other words the prestige Assault Rifle that a Level 25 Assault has would be slightly better than the CR-T AR.

No, we already have people *****ing about people of higher levels being better. Rather not give them ammo.

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Posted January 25 2013 - 10:27 AM

Its not just free upgrades it's Internals with no negative effect, (ie advantage over every other Walker besides the cupcake) Assault doesn't need to be changed, Yes its the same thing as the CR-T except its Non-Noob.

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Posted January 25 2013 - 10:36 AM

View PostMajorMojo, on January 25 2013 - 10:17 AM, said:

One suggestion is that the CR-T should lose the rookie internals after reaching some level.  You're not a rookie anymore and don't need the help.
That just makes them even less different

View PostMajorMojo, on January 25 2013 - 10:17 AM, said:

Another suggestion is have the "prestige" weapons (for all mechs) be slightly better (i.e., a Level "4") than the same non-prestige weapon used by other mechs.  In other words the prestige Assault Rifle that a Level 25 Assault has would be slightly better than the CR-T AR.
And that's just silly and unnecessary

There's really no point in creating a mech that will be the same/slightly worse at 25. If the aesthetics of the CRT bother you, you can always buy chassis parts
There's no compelling reason for the Assault to stick around
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#9 MedioMorde

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Posted January 26 2013 - 06:19 AM

bump

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Posted January 26 2013 - 08:41 AM

Could always give it a slightly modified weapon ie better at one thing than another mech , that maybe differentiates the 2 mechs?

Or a completely new weapon not on another mech.

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Posted January 26 2013 - 01:48 PM

View PostGree, on January 25 2013 - 10:20 AM, said:

Maybe new weapons and new ability should resolve this problem.
I could see this working well.
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Posted January 26 2013 - 02:24 PM

When I first started playing this game I picked up an Assault mech, not knowing how similar it was to the Recruit (my bad for not REALLY looking into it) and I haven't used that Assault mech (it's still level 1 lol).  Yeah, there needs to be something else that differentiates it, wouldn't kill them to change something out on it in a future patch.

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Posted January 26 2013 - 03:38 PM

I think the assault should be reworked. It's just too similar to Fred and with the rookie internals there is just no reason to choose it (unless you want a vulcan d before lvl25).

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Posted January 26 2013 - 03:48 PM

Assault gets the point D at level 7
Recruit gets the point D at level 25
and the Assault looks 100% better then the Recruit IMHO .

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Posted January 26 2013 - 04:20 PM

View PostMedioMorde, on January 25 2013 - 09:51 AM, said:

Completely obsolete atm, Recruit is the exact same thing with free upgrades. Remove the assault mech or make it worthwhile please.

My Assault at level 8 would take your level 25 C-RT and eat it for lunch, then ask for seconds.
And at it's current level 25 i can take out almost anyone in any class Mech, provided i don't stand around like a dumb twit and soak up all the damage they throw at me.
But if you're so sick of your Assault, give it to me then; i'll re-educate that puppy and have it trained so well any 'zerker that sees it makes a 180 and runs for it's mommy.
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Posted January 26 2013 - 04:22 PM

View PostGree, on January 25 2013 - 10:20 AM, said:

Maybe new weapons and new ability should resolve this problem.

You touch my Assault, i'll have my Rocketeer put it's foot up your Mech's shiny metal ass :D
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Posted January 26 2013 - 05:02 PM

View Postrobotokom, on January 26 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:

Assault gets the point D at level 7
Recruit gets the point D at level 25
and the Assault looks 100% better then the Recruit IMHO .
Protip: at 25 the CR-T will have the same weapon options AND the rookie internals
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#18 MedioMorde

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Posted January 27 2013 - 08:36 AM

View PostDread_Lord_Pitr, on January 26 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

My Assault at level 8 would take your level 25 C-RT and eat it for lunch, then ask for seconds.
And at it's current level 25 i can take out almost anyone in any class Mech, provided i don't stand around like a dumb twit and soak up all the damage they throw at me.
But if you're so sick of your Assault, give it to me then; i'll re-educate that puppy and have it trained so well any 'zerker that sees it makes a 180 and runs for it's mommy.

Well smack talk aside, a level 25 recruit can have everything your mech has and then some. The idea is that you bought a mech for really no reason at all. Your abilitiy to kill another mech with the exact same setup has nothing to do with that fact that your assault is just a Recruit Mk II.

Edited by MedioMorde, January 27 2013 - 08:36 AM.


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Posted January 27 2013 - 11:25 AM

Maybe more agressive internals and/or optimizations for the Assault chassis might be good idea.

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Posted January 28 2013 - 06:48 AM

View PostBeemann, on January 26 2013 - 05:02 PM, said:

View Postrobotokom, on January 26 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:

Assault gets the point D at level 7
Recruit gets the point D at level 25
and the Assault looks 100% better then the Recruit IMHO .
Protip: at 25 the CR-T will have the same weapon options AND the rookie internals
extra XP helps you get to level 26 so fast.




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