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#1 Meraple

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Posted April 23 2014 - 04:46 AM

View PostMeraple, on April 23 2014 - 04:40 AM, said:

That boost speed nerf is... it'll destroy my playing style.
I depend ALOT on my boost speed, and I have 2 internals that amplify it even more.

WHY THE F__K ARE YOU DOING THIS DEVS
What were you thinking..
I'll be nothing more then a slow turtle after this patch.

Simply a rant topic, flame on me if you wish.

However, I don't think that a SINGLE good Predator player will like this boost speed reduction.

Why is this all bad?
It will destroy an entire playing style of the hardest-to-play mech in the entire game.
Why would you do this?

Edited by Meraple, April 23 2014 - 08:12 AM.

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#2 rekina

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Posted April 23 2014 - 04:51 AM

Nobody likes their favorite mechs get nerfed, but just sucks it up if it were necessary change. Predator wasn't designed to excel at chasing or running, so boost speed got nerfed. Predator spends majority of its time under stalker mode, so walking speed got buffed. It seems very reasonable for me.

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Posted April 23 2014 - 04:54 AM

I don`t see it as bad, as I find walkspeed more useful.

But of course I am the same guy liking Uptown too so...
I`ll fix it later.

#4 Meraple

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Posted April 23 2014 - 04:56 AM

View Postrekina, on April 23 2014 - 04:51 AM, said:

Nobody likes their favorite mechs get nerfed, but just sucks it up if it were necessary change. Predator wasn't designed to excel at chasing or running, so boost speed got nerfed. Predator spends majority of its time under stalker mode, so walking speed got buffed. It seems very reasonable for me.

If I didn't play Predator, it'd make sense to me too.
Hell, it makes sense to me in a logical standpoint, even though I play Predator.

That's not the point.
The point is, the Devs are DESTROYING an ENTIRE PLAYING STYLE of the HARDEST TO PLAY MECH.

I don't spend most of my time under Stalker mode.
Memag, another good Predator, does that as well.


I wouldn't be able to do score like this with that boost speed reduction:
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I didn't score that well, but there were some pretty good people in there.


Like I said, the problem is that the Devs are destroying a playing style of the hardest-to-play mech.
Why, I ask?
Please give an answer Devs.

Edited by Meraple, April 23 2014 - 05:04 AM.

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#5 spo0n

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Posted April 23 2014 - 05:15 AM

What internals amplify boost speed?

I thought they were nerfed to only raise run speed long ago.

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Posted April 23 2014 - 05:15 AM

So making a trap laying mech faster in a mode where it is not visible on the radar is nerfing it?

2m/s won't destroy a mech's playstyle. It just goads it more into it's intended role.

Edited by Duralumi, April 23 2014 - 05:17 AM.

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#7 Meraple

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Posted April 23 2014 - 05:17 AM

View PostDuralumi, on April 23 2014 - 05:15 AM, said:

So making a trap laying mech faster in a mode where it is not visible on the radar is nerfing it?
>Implying only laying traps is a good playing style that contributes to the team as much as an aggresive one

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Posted April 23 2014 - 05:19 AM

Meraple's got no idea what he's talking about. The Predator has two huge weaknesses right now that make it invalid in competent play: inability to hold its own in a fight against an equally skilled opponent and inability to actually stalk targets because it's way too freaking slow in Stalker mode. Boost speed reduction on the Predator (while unnecessary) is completely insignificant and the walk speed and EoCP DPS buffs are absolutely a step in the right direction towards making the Predator actually viable against competent players.

Also nobody cares about your scoreboard screenshots from scrubpubs.

#9 Duralumi

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Posted April 23 2014 - 05:20 AM

View PostMeraple, on April 23 2014 - 05:17 AM, said:

>Implying only laying traps is a good playing style that contributes to the team as much as an aggresive one
You can still aggressively lay traps.
Only now you can be a bit more sneaky about it since you're as fast as an Infiltrator naturally, and as fast as a Scout while in Stalker mode.
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Posted April 23 2014 - 05:22 AM

View Postspo0n, on April 23 2014 - 05:15 AM, said:

What internals amplify boost speed?

I thought they were nerfed to only raise run speed long ago.

This. My tiny scout wants to know.

#11 Meraple

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Posted April 23 2014 - 05:26 AM

View PostDew, on April 23 2014 - 05:19 AM, said:

Meraple's got no idea what he's talking about. The Predator has two huge weaknesses right now that make it invalid in competent play: inability to hold its own in a fight against an equally skilled opponent and inability to actually stalk targets because it's way too freaking slow in Stalker mode. Boost speed reduction on the Predator (while unnecessary) is completely insignificant and the walk speed and EoCP DPS buffs are absolutely a step in the right direction towards making the Predator actually viable against competent players.


I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Yeah, sure.

You're saying I suck in Predator?
You're saying I'm some stupid noob?

I do good in Predator even in organised matches with some actually good people in both teams, a__hole.
I don't complain that mechs are in need of a buff/nerf when I don't know how to play them effectively.

Also it wasn't really a scrubpub.

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Posted April 23 2014 - 05:27 AM

Your ignorance is amusing.

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Posted April 23 2014 - 05:28 AM

Predator's only .7 m/s slower than an assault. It won't make a big difference. It is the fastest walking b-class mech and now it got a buff when stalking to the point that you're faster than most a-classes.

Edited by shosca, April 23 2014 - 05:31 AM.


#14 Meraple

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Posted April 23 2014 - 05:32 AM

View PostDew, on April 23 2014 - 05:27 AM, said:

Your ignorance is amusing.

People are telling me you don't know anything about Predator, regardless of your Predating time.

That may not be true, but you obviously don't know anything about my playing style.

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#15 rekina

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Posted April 23 2014 - 05:32 AM

Predator currently has 32.24m/s boost speed. It is faster than Sharpshooter, Bruiser, Assault, G-2 Assault, and CR-T Recruit. Only mech that has faster boost speed is Raider, which has 33.68m/s boost speed. Pred is, of course, faster than any C type mechs, and almost as fast as Technician(33.68m/s) and Reaper(34.4m/s).

I find it's hard to agree that this boost speed of Predator was intended. It has perma cloak and the second fast boost speed among B types. Practically, you will be ambush mechs that were already spending their fuel on the engagement with your team mates, while your fuel was likely full in your stalker mode. Even if enemy had better boost speed, they lack of fuel and will be caught by your fresh, fast Pred. This is where I start to think 'this seems not right.'

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Posted April 23 2014 - 05:33 AM

View Postrekina, on April 23 2014 - 05:32 AM, said:

Predator currently has 32.24m/s boost speed. It is faster than Sharpshooter, Bruiser, Assault, G-2 Assault, and CR-T Recruit. Only mech that has faster boost speed is Raider, which has 33.68m/s boost speed. Pred is, of course, faster than any C type mechs, and almost as fast as Technician(33.68m/s) and Reaper(34.4m/s).

I find it's hard to agree that this boost speed of Predator was intended. It has perma cloak and the second fast boost speed among B types. Practically, you will be ambush mechs that were already spending their fuel on the engagement with your team mates, while your fuel was likely full in your stalker mode. Even if enemy had better boost speed, they lack of fuel and will be caught by your fresh, fast Pred. This is where I start to think 'this seems not right.'

I guess that makes sense.
Some people don't have to be quite so rude though.

Still... not all Predators go into combat after the main engagement.
Like me.
I prefer going into it at the start.

Edited by Meraple, April 23 2014 - 05:36 AM.

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Posted April 23 2014 - 05:36 AM

View PostMeraple, on April 23 2014 - 05:32 AM, said:

People are telling me you don't know anything about Predator, regardless of your Predating time.

I'd be interested to know who these "people" are, but I guarantee none of them have any idea what they are talking about. Because I know every single person in this game who does know what they are talking about.

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Posted April 23 2014 - 05:36 AM

View PostMeraple, on April 23 2014 - 05:33 AM, said:

View Postrekina, on April 23 2014 - 05:32 AM, said:

Predator currently has 32.24m/s boost speed. It is faster than Sharpshooter, Bruiser, Assault, G-2 Assault, and CR-T Recruit. Only mech that has faster boost speed is Raider, which has 33.68m/s boost speed. Pred is, of course, faster than any C type mechs, and almost as fast as Technician(33.68m/s) and Reaper(34.4m/s).

I find it's hard to agree that this boost speed of Predator was intended. It has perma cloak and the second fast boost speed among B types. Practically, you will be ambush mechs that were already spending their fuel on the engagement with your team mates, while your fuel was likely full in your stalker mode. Even if enemy had better boost speed, they lack of fuel and will be caught by your fresh, fast Pred. This is where I start to think 'this seems not right.'

I guess that makes sense.
Some people don't have to be quite so rude though.

Yeh, no need the aggression tbh.

I understand your frustration, but I believe you will find equally fun time in your fastened stalker mode very soon :D

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Posted April 23 2014 - 05:41 AM

View PostDew, on April 23 2014 - 05:36 AM, said:

View PostMeraple, on April 23 2014 - 05:32 AM, said:

People are telling me you don't know anything about Predator, regardless of your Predating time.

I'd be interested to know who these "people" are, but I guarantee none of them have any idea what they are talking about. Because I know every single person in this game who does know what they are talking about.

I wonder about your opinion on this:
Does doing great in the Predator also mean you know what you're talking about when discussing Pred?

I think you're going to say no,
as I can already tell you have a list of 'I know what I'm talking about' people.
Regardless if they don't play Pred, and yet post about Pred, they will know what they're talking about.

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Posted April 23 2014 - 05:49 AM

Can we please try the changes first hand for like a week before we post threads like this? Just once, please?

Get your hard on.






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