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#1 Astrolis

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Posted November 22 2012 - 12:02 PM

I play on my MBP (last model with disk drive) which I have bootcamped.

Windows 7 64bit OS. 8gb Radeon 6670(or around that) HD with an integrated (i believe) graphics card. Quad i7 2.4ghz

By spec I should have no problem playing this game fluidly on medium settings, yet even on the lowest settings possible I still get lots of lag.

Any advice (besides to by a rig, I'm working on that) on how I can optimize?

my ping is usually in the 40s so it must be my system. :/

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Posted November 22 2012 - 12:17 PM

There isn't much you can do other then try and turn the graphics down and search the Ini. files for thing you can change even more.

A lot of it tho isn't from graphics it's from un-optimized code that they still need to work out.

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Posted November 22 2012 - 02:38 PM

View PostNecro, on November 22 2012 - 12:17 PM, said:

There isn't much you can do other then try and turn the graphics down and search the Ini. files for thing you can change even more.

A lot of it tho isn't from graphics it's from un-optimized code that they still need to work out.

see you say that but my roommate runs hawken on a shuttle and he rarely has any kind of lag what so ever.
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Posted November 22 2012 - 02:42 PM

They are having problems with ATI cards as well i believe.

I'm guessing he doesn't have one and is using a nvidia?

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Posted November 22 2012 - 06:29 PM

I didn't notice it. Might be my computer's powerful performance. It's probably good then to have people with slightly lower end computers test Hawken.

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Posted November 22 2012 - 08:57 PM

Graphics driver issues? I run a Lenovo y560 and I don't have these problems. Granted I'm on Medium settings.

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Posted November 22 2012 - 10:58 PM

Perhaps a bootcamp issue?

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Posted November 23 2012 - 12:34 AM

View Posthaze4peace, on November 22 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

Perhaps a bootcamp issue?


I've updated all the latest Apple hardware support software. Windows is up to date. As far as my logs say nothing is wrong with windows itself.

I'm typing this on a reinstalled windows OS that was just completeted. still getting lag in matches that are full.

I've also noted that in games with less people I usually have very little lag. Idk what the would indicate besides server issues maybe?

And I'd just like to thank all of you that have posted here. I am thankful for the community brainstorming.

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Posted November 23 2012 - 12:59 AM

I doubt its server issues, because everything has been great for me. Have someone come over with a computer that is known to work, or go over to someones house that you know works flawlessly. If it continues to happen it is your computer, if not it has something to do with the internet.

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Posted November 23 2012 - 03:19 AM

Well if you were matchmaking outside your region, it could explain lag. I've had some pretty bad stutters on some servers at 300 ping.

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Posted November 23 2012 - 09:26 AM

6670 isn't exactly an earth-shattering Videocard as far as games go. In fact, it's an entry-level GPU.

So simply put, the videocard is rather weak. But that being a Macbook Pro, you replacing it is probably out of the question. Apple don't play that.


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Posted November 23 2012 - 10:26 AM

yea i know its entry level. I originally bought the MBP for work related stuff and it transformed into my gaming set up for the time being.


LOL @30 seconds. I feel like thats my MBP trying to get a gaming set up and the clown is my roommates rig. xD
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Posted November 23 2012 - 10:32 AM

If a pilot with a ping of 460 (I've seen that a couple of times already..) gets in the game then you could have the answer to your issue.

Questions: is this happening to you always, many times or occasionally? Do you check the crowd's pings via TAB when that occurs? What are your video settings? On which map does this happens to you?

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Posted November 23 2012 - 12:22 PM

View PostThe_Silencer, on November 23 2012 - 10:32 AM, said:

If a pilot with a ping of 460 (I've seen that a couple of times already..) gets in the game then you could have the answer to your issue.

Questions: is this happening to you always, many times or occasionally? Do you check the crowd's pings via TAB when that occurs? What are your video settings? On which map does this happens to you?

Hope this helps.

It happens I'd say in about half my games. Tends to happen every time I get hit my hellfire missiles to the face (as in front of my mech) as well.

Yea i always check game ping. That number ranges from 40-200 ping.

My video settings are
Everything turned off.
Texture and Graphics on low.
AA- 1x

The lag happens on any map.

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Posted November 23 2012 - 01:21 PM

So when you get hit by hellfires you say? when an opponent mech is in front of you and very close?

At first glance.. looks to me like your GPU doesn't like much particles/smoke..

Maybe a silly question: Have you disabled physix in your GPU config. settings?

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Posted November 23 2012 - 11:55 PM

View PostThe_Silencer, on November 23 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

So when you get hit by hellfires you say? when an opponent mech is in front of you and very close?

At first glance.. looks to me like your GPU doesn't like much particles/smoke..

Maybe a silly question: Have you disabled physix in your GPU config. settings?

yup. thanks whats confusing me. its disabled yet my gpu still doo doos bricks in heavy engagements.
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Posted November 24 2012 - 03:04 AM

As I said before, it's probably really just not got the muscle; simple as that.

Turn resolution down as low as tolerable for you. If you gain performance, you're officially GPU bottlenecked.

If, on the other hand, it doesn't budge (or barely moves), it means you're CPU bottlenecked.

But obviously, MBPs aren't exactly meant to be gaming rigs. Even the high end ones are basically $850 computers sold for almost twice that price.

If you could replace the guts on them, it'd be a lot easier, but Apple makes those things very difficult for the user to service or upgrade. Not impossible, though. You're basically better off building a Hackintosh and putting it in a regular PC case, as at least then you can upgrade the thing, but of course, you lose all that Mac sleekness and attractive case design style.

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Posted November 24 2012 - 03:09 AM

TBH I have a hard time running Titan at higher than 20-30 FPS on a computer that runs Sleeping Dogs on max, and Firefall at over 60 FPS without a hitch on low-medium settings (and I'm cranking everything down to the lowest settings possible on Hawken, though I remember hearing something about offline mode running much smoother for people when we still had it. Did that ever get investigated/addressed)
If I get multiple mechs jetting around I've had it drop lower
The game's not very nice to computers, particularly on maps like Titan
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Posted November 24 2012 - 04:05 AM

View PostDarkPulse, on November 24 2012 - 03:04 AM, said:

As I said before, it's probably really just not got the muscle; simple as that.

Turn resolution down as low as tolerable for you. If you gain performance, you're officially GPU bottlenecked.

If, on the other hand, it doesn't budge (or barely moves), it means you're CPU bottlenecked.

But obviously, MBPs aren't exactly meant to be gaming rigs. Even the high end ones are basically $850 computers sold for almost twice that price.

If you could replace the guts on them, it'd be a lot easier, but Apple makes those things very difficult for the user to service or upgrade. Not impossible, though. You're basically better off building a Hackintosh and putting it in a regular PC case, as at least then you can upgrade the thing, but of course, you lose all that Mac sleekness and attractive case design style.

Interesting but he had already said that he has everything turned off. The Hackintosh thing sounds fun.. :D

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Posted November 24 2012 - 04:09 AM

I have this problem too. Never had it before, played the 32 player siege games without much trouble/stuttering/lag or anything.

These days, I experienced large amounts of stuttering or fps drops. When fighting 1 on 1, no problem, but with a group battle I can't aim/hit anything.

My ping is usually around 40 and I turned my video settings down to the lowest possible from medium in cb 1 and 2. No improvement.
I even OCed my 9800GT and gained ~20% performance improvement according to furmark, but still no improvement ingame. Hell, according to the GPU-Z log, my GPU never even reached 99% load.

I'm currently blaming serverlag (others with ping > 200 in the game) and unoptimized code, as I'm pretty sure it's not my rig.
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