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#1 Fulano2

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Posted October 10 2014 - 07:00 PM

Good that the foruns are back online.

Let me ask you guys some questions about stuff that I've been seeing very often, and not liking...
What do you think about someone who keeps throwing EMP at you and running, even with full armour, just to annoy and provoke, all the time? Don't you think this is kind of an item abuse?

Or how about people that keep combining TEAM tactics on Deathmatch, and keep teaming up against you, including chasing you in group?

Personally, I think this is awful, not even a little decent atitude of a player.

What do you think about?

#2 Hyginos

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Posted October 10 2014 - 07:10 PM

I think whether you find a tactic argeeable has no bearing on its efficacy or validity. A discussion of what playstyles we all dislike has little value.
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#3 craftydus

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Posted October 10 2014 - 07:14 PM

I don't like mondays

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Posted October 10 2014 - 07:17 PM

The only thing there that I agree is worthy of being crabby about is the twunts that team up in DM.  It's pretty lame and actually does ruin the spirit of the game mode.  Not much different, to me, than the people that will bring up an alt account on their other computer and join the other team just to give them a disadvantage of having an idle player.

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#5 Pastorius

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Posted October 10 2014 - 07:24 PM

1 Learn how to dodge an EMP and run the guy down. Take it as an opertunity to improve your skill.
2 I don't really like people teaming up in DM either but it happens. Again, just see it as a learning curve and try and kick some ass.

These things will only serve to make you a better player in the end. I'm glad to see the forums back online too ;)
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Posted October 10 2014 - 07:34 PM

Fulano, no one was teaming up.  But you were annoying the server with your constant complaining until we all relished the thought of killing you.  

And you were complaining about emp so much that we all saved our emps just to troll you for lols.

And to your point, I wish more people would emp me and run away rather than charge at me when my guns are down.  



#7 Amidatelion

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Posted October 10 2014 - 07:53 PM

View PostFulano2, on October 10 2014 - 07:00 PM, said:

Good that the foruns are back online.

Let me ask you guys some questions about stuff that I've been seeing very often, and not liking...
What do you think about someone who keeps throwing EMP at you and running, even with full armour, just to annoy and provoke, all the time? Don't you think this is kind of an item abuse?

Or how about people that keep combining TEAM tactics on Deathmatch, and keep teaming up against you, including chasing you in group?

Personally, I think this is awful, not even a little decent atitude of a player.

What do you think about?

I can't speak to the EMP and run nonsense, though I do remember someone stating that they were going to start doing that to someone who kept trolling them in TDM. But this is DM, presumably, so I don't know.

But more to the point: Fulano2, people do not gang up against you in DM.

I have seen you complain about this over and over again. People target you because you walk into open space with no cover and everyone's aim may as well auto-track to you and fire all at once. Then you get angry, rage like nobody's business in chat, and go on to make more mistakes. When one person dominates you, you focus in on them to the exclusion of all else, which is a guaranteed way to have a bad time in DM. Even at mid-tier where we are, players are aware enough to see you consistently doing this. That's not ganging up. That's exploiting mistakes.

There are people who gang up against others in DM and they are dicks. Noticing and punishing people who make mistakes is NOT ganging up, because those people are competing to see who kills the mistake first.

As Pastorius noted, even if you face people 2v1ing you, take it as a chance to get better. Your aim is good - probably better than mine. But your cornerplay is non-existant, your awareness is poor, your positioning is poor and your judgement is lacking. Your aim is an asset that probably serves you well in TDM where your team can cover those other deficiencies. DM is ruthless and full of fuzzy bunny who will happily nail you in your weaknesses all night long.

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View Postphed, on October 10 2014 - 07:34 PM, said:

Fulano, no one was teaming up.  But you were annoying the server with your constant complaining until we all relished the thought of killing you.  

And you were complaining about emp so much that we all saved our emps just to troll you for lols.

And to your point, I wish more people would emp me and run away rather than charge at me when my guns are down.  

*jazz hands*

Edited by Amidatelion, October 10 2014 - 07:54 PM.


#8 Dawn_of_Ash

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Posted October 10 2014 - 08:02 PM

View PostFulano2, on October 10 2014 - 07:00 PM, said:

What do you think about someone who keeps throwing EMP at you and running, even with full armour, just to annoy and provoke, all the time?

Am I understanding this correctly; people are EMPing you then, while you cannot shoot, they run away to provoke you? If you mean teammates are using their EMP against you then running, yep, I see where you are coming from, but if it's really just opponents that are using the EMPs, then why aren't they rushing you!? You are practically defenceless! Even DM-wise, why wouldn't they kill you!? They are the one's losing the points!

#9 Lunatic_Fringe

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Posted October 10 2014 - 08:34 PM

View PostAmidatelion, on October 10 2014 - 07:53 PM, said:

DM is ruthless and full of fuzzy bunny who will happily nail you in your weaknesses all night long.

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Posted October 10 2014 - 09:24 PM

View PostAmidatelion, on October 10 2014 - 07:53 PM, said:

I have seen you complain about this over and over again. People target you because you walk into open space with no cover and everyone's aim may as well auto-track to you and fire all at once. Then you get angry, rage like nobody's business in chat, and go on to make more mistakes. When one person dominates you, you focus in on them to the exclusion of all else, which is a guaranteed way to have a bad time in DM. Even at mid-tier where we are, players are aware enough to see you consistently doing this. That's not ganging up. That's exploiting mistakes.

I SEEN IT.

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Edited by ticklemyiguana, October 11 2014 - 09:46 AM.

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#11 Pastorius

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Posted October 10 2014 - 09:41 PM

Yeh, scratch my earlier post. It sounds to me like your bringing this on yourself?! If you rage people will make a point of hunting you down. Plus, if you leave yourself open in DM, everyone will target you simply because they can.
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Posted October 10 2014 - 10:35 PM

DM SUX

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Posted October 10 2014 - 10:44 PM

If you get angry simply leave the game for a while. This is the best thing you can do, not all of this "calm ya bewbys" thing. To simply calm down for many of those with anger problems (including me) is not really easy. If something pisses you off and you get all tabbleflippin about it, simply leave the game.



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Posted October 10 2014 - 11:10 PM

hmmm. Fulano2, you aren't the oddball that ragequit against bots in Co-op TDM 2 nights ago, are you?
this whole thread sounds awfully familiar... :D

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Posted October 11 2014 - 12:23 AM

I've had a few players literally EMP me in the back or block my escape route with blockades on purpose - while being on the same team.

The good old trick where they just stand around in the base, occasionally walking around so that they won't get idle kicked - to make the chance of a free spot opening for someone who actually intends to fight become zero - is also quite frequent.

And I honestly don't mind.
It's quite cute actually seeing how some people put so much effort into trying to annoy me. <3

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#16 I2DI

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Posted October 11 2014 - 01:20 AM

Well what a surprise.
Expecting good players joining DM. Pffffff.... *leaning towards the screen*Did he say tactics?..*walking out of the room*Nope! Not today!..*closed the door behind him*
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Posted October 11 2014 - 01:35 AM

DM is overall very backstabby :ph34r:

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Posted October 11 2014 - 04:16 AM

Before the EMP balancing happened, I used to have Toryne ALWAYS hit me with them if we were on the same team. It usually lead to some interesting things. Which of course if he was on I had to carry an EMP as well because I had to EMP him as well.

It was all silliness between us obviously.

On ganging up against people in DM, that is what happens. It is all risk vs reward and sometimes one person is just too darn easy to kill that they get double focused fast because each other person knows it's free points that they will lose since they could not kill the other person fast enough to stop it. Also if people do pair up in DM for the whole game, that is part of the system. They are doing it with FF on and odds are it won't work great. But that is another aspect to that game.

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Posted October 11 2014 - 04:47 AM

View PostRasti, on October 11 2014 - 12:23 AM, said:

I've had a few players literally EMP me in the back or block my escape route with blockades on purpose - while being on the same team.

The good old trick where they just stand around in the base, occasionally walking around so that they won't get idle kicked - to make the chance of a free spot opening for someone who actually intends to fight become zero - is also quite frequent.

And I honestly don't mind.
It's quite cute actually seeing how some people put so much effort into trying to annoy me. <3
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The same issue was mentioned here with some Silent_ guy - https://community.pl...ayer-behaviour/
Why he's not banned yet...?
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Posted October 11 2014 - 07:30 AM

View PostEM1O, on October 10 2014 - 11:10 PM, said:

hmmm. Fulano2, you aren't the oddball that ragequit against bots in Co-op TDM 2 nights ago, are you?
this whole thread sounds awfully familiar... :D

Lolololl





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