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So are heavy mechs the mechs for people who find video games too difficult?


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#1 Nuzzyfuts

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Posted March 10 2014 - 10:31 AM

Like heavy, in TF2. Except with more stalling bs. I honestly just started playing today, and I get that heavy mechs with their tank mode whatever are supposed to be strong in the front and weak in the back. But I find them just boring to play against because they just slow an encounter down once they lower their armor. They can't be difficult to play as considering a close quarters encounter of most kinds is probably going to be won by the heavy, and with the shields, focused fire only realy becomes effective is some can flank.

I don't know, I'll save up to buy easy mode(vanguard) and then come back.

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Posted March 10 2014 - 10:32 AM

Some players are crazy with C class

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Posted March 10 2014 - 10:37 AM

View PostEliteShooter, on March 10 2014 - 10:32 AM, said:

Some players are crazy with C class
Pretty much. A prime example is ThirdEyE in his freaking Vanguard. God my ass hurts sooooo much after he is done with me :(

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Posted March 10 2014 - 10:52 AM

View PostOmegaNull, on March 10 2014 - 10:37 AM, said:

View PostEliteShooter, on March 10 2014 - 10:32 AM, said:

Some players are crazy with C class
Pretty much. A prime example is ThirdEyE in his freaking Vanguard. God my ass hurts sooooo much after he is done with me :(
Pretty much this. Some players are really good with C Classes. You will know when you fight those, and you might feel like crying afterwards. Me? I prefer C Classes now, although I also play B Classes as well.

IMHO, the Vanguard is a C Class that wants to be a B Class. You will have the speed of a B Class (when not in turret mode), but can also go into that turret state, which is where you will usually find a vanguard when playing siege. Keep in mind that turret mode can be a liability when playing against A Classes though, unless you have a good team/strategy.

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Posted March 10 2014 - 11:06 AM

Moving around isn't the point of turret mode just so you know. As the name implies, turret mode is where you bring down your wings and stay in one place playing defense. When not in turret mode, you can move around better and play offensive. By the way heavy mechs aren't really that hard to take down. I've taken down several heavy mechs by myself as berserker. Using a lot of air control and being really evasive is a very easy way to take down heavy mechs. Heavy mechs aren't really a slow and boring way to play the game, just a different way. I think vanguard is a pretty awesome mech by the way. But honestly I like berserker more. I still have yet to get more mechs though so that is just me.

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Posted March 10 2014 - 11:26 AM

This is about as reasonable as saying "light mechs are the mechs for drooling, hyperactive meth addicts." Yes, heavies de-emphasize twitch reflexes a bit in favor of tactical positioning, choosing your ground carefully, and anticipating your opponent. They're useful in situations where lights aren't, and vice versa. There's nothing wrong with that and it doesn't make heavy fans "bad at video games."

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Posted March 10 2014 - 11:37 AM

View PostNuzzyfuts, on March 10 2014 - 10:31 AM, said:

I honestly just started playing today...

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Clearly you need to play more.

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Posted March 10 2014 - 11:55 AM

Isn't this where the A-Classes comes in hand? Pumping those C's from behind?

Or did I get all that ** wrong?

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Posted March 10 2014 - 12:13 PM

High tier play i'd say A classes are much harder to play. Players aim is really fuzzy bunny good, and you'll get focused fired, pretty much die in a second.

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#10 Nuzzyfuts

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Posted March 10 2014 - 01:05 PM

View Postnokari, on March 10 2014 - 11:37 AM, said:

View PostNuzzyfuts, on March 10 2014 - 10:31 AM, said:

I honestly just started playing today...


Clearly you need to play more.

Clearly you need to learn that this game isn't completely unique and different from everything else out there. The only thing different reall is that everything is bigger, slower, and EASIER to hit. I'll be blunt when I restate it. Heavy mechs take no skill(read thas as if I sang it please), like heavy in TF2, AWPS in CS, or making stall teams in pokemon.

Sorry if someone who just started playing this game stating that ruffles your feathers(ow8, I'm not), they're just obnoxious to play against. IT's not that I find them hard to kill or find the game difficult in the least, by no means.

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Posted March 10 2014 - 01:19 PM

View PostNuzzyfuts, on March 10 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

View Postnokari, on March 10 2014 - 11:37 AM, said:

View PostNuzzyfuts, on March 10 2014 - 10:31 AM, said:

I honestly just started playing today...


Clearly you need to play more.

Clearly you need to learn that this game isn't completely unique and different from everything else out there. The only thing different reall is that everything is bigger, slower, and EASIER to hit. I'll be blunt when I restate it. Heavy mechs take no skill(read thas as if I sang it please), like heavy in TF2, AWPS in CS, or making stall teams in pokemon.

Sorry if someone who just started playing this game stating that ruffles your feathers(ow8, I'm not), they're just obnoxious to play against. IT's not that I find them hard to kill or find the game difficult in the least, by no means.

lol it doesn't "ruffle my feathers". It's just clear that you made a quick judgement with barely any experience in what is probably low-level play (since you probably haven't played long enough to experience high level play). But opinion is what it is and I had no intent to change yours just by saying you don't have enough experience, only trying to point out you should play more before you start deciding that you know how things really are overall.

Personally, I use all 3 classes depending on who I'm up against. I like to play Rocketeer because of its range and the difficult challenge of close combat it has to deal with, but I pretty much never ever use its turret mode. All of the classes are well balanced against each other and it's really about the person using them that makes the difference. Seeing some low level guys relying on turret mode that get easily killed isn't a good example. Turret mode is best for defending choke points and usually need support as they're certainly not hard to defeat with a concentrated barrage. However good players know when to use that mode and when not to. You can't say it's definitively an easy win or easy kill mech for everybody.

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Posted March 10 2014 - 08:13 PM

easy mode?
get in the brawler, let me know how you do.

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Posted March 10 2014 - 11:42 PM

You do need to play more. You can't just jump into a game like this and think you instantly know what takes skill or not, and condemn it for not being unique or different (it is). You got the response you got because quite honestly, you're just making a fool of yourself.

Most of the others have gone over it here. As you can see, you're the only one of your own opinion. I will add one thing, though. Heavy classes generally have the same exact weapons as B, and even A class mechs. They're big, slower, and aren't any stronger than anything else. The only thing they have is more HP and a turret mode that's not even better than just dodging in most cases, and once flanked, they're dead.

They can stall, but only the Vanguard is exceptional at that (the others have rather low turret mode defense), and leading the charge is about the only thing they have over lighter types. It's in fact possible, and very common, for a lighter type to win an encounter against a heavy class, because DPS and speed are a large part of the game, and it's easier to land all your shots against a big target, while having the speed to outmaneuver heavies.
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Posted March 10 2014 - 11:46 PM

View PostNuzzyfuts, on March 10 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

Clearly you need to learn that this game isn't completely unique and different from everything else out there. The only thing different reall is that everything is bigger, slower, and EASIER to hit. I'll be blunt when I restate it. Heavy mechs take no skill(read thas as if I sang it please), like heavy in TF2, AWPS in CS, or making stall teams in pokemon.

Sorry if someone who just started playing this game stating that ruffles your feathers(ow8, I'm not), they're just obnoxious to play against. IT's not that I find them hard to kill or find the game difficult in the least, by no means.
Jesus, these kids. I assume you're, what, 14, 15? You're just so very keen to let everyone know that you have SKILLS and that you don't think Hawken is HARD or anything, because you can't imagine anything more important to your self-image than being a really good pretend soldier shooting imaginary people in video games.

We're just here to have fun. No one cares what your KDR is or how good you are at Counterstrike. Stop trying to puff yourself up and just have fun.

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Posted March 11 2014 - 06:30 AM

View PostNuzzyfuts, on March 10 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

Clearly you need to learn that this game isn't completely unique and different from everything else out there. The only thing different reall is that everything is bigger, slower, and EASIER to hit. I'll be blunt when I restate it. Heavy mechs take no skill(read thas as if I sang it please), like heavy in TF2, AWPS in CS, or making stall teams in pokemon.

Sorry if someone who just started playing this game stating that ruffles your feathers(ow8, I'm not), they're just obnoxious to play against. IT's not that I find them hard to kill or find the game difficult in the least, by no means.

Watch out guys, MLG player here! Listen, these guys don't understand how badass you are. I get it though! I can't wait for you to get a C-class and start messing fools up. Oh and make sure you drop turret mode as soon as you see in enemy. This will confuse them and make them unable to see you. Then BAM! You got them. For extra defense you should also buy a bockaid and drop it in front of you. This will give you plus 100% defense in the front. A little Hack I found ;)


Me personally, I think playing a heavy in TF2 takes a bit of skill. Well unless you have a medic behind you. Then you are safe. But if not... The heavies gun doesn't really have the accuracy to play the range game. So you do have to get right in someone's face. Just because you have more health doesn't mean the mech/class is for noobs. But what do I know?

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Posted March 12 2014 - 01:26 PM

tldr; op is bad cause bad

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Posted March 12 2014 - 02:46 PM

View Postleoroids, on March 12 2014 - 01:26 PM, said:

tldr; op is bad cause bad

And your poor sportsmanship is warranted because?

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Posted March 12 2014 - 03:00 PM

In my humble oppinion C-Class mechs need as much skil(here iam talking about the volume and knowledg required if that makes any sense to you) as A- or B-Class Mechs! What people are confusing are the different kinds of skills you need to play the different classes! With A- and B- Classes i think you need more aiming, movement and a better reaction

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Posted March 12 2014 - 03:06 PM

In my humble oppinion C-Class mechs need as much skil(here iam talking about the volume and knowledg required if that makes any sense to you) as A- or B-Class Mechs! What people are confusing are the different kinds of skills you need to play the different classes! With A- and B- Classes i think you need more aiming, movement, a better reaction and better reflexes while a C-Class wants you to think more about initial possitioning , Radar Controll, Team composition and Timing (regarding siege mode)! I dont want to say that you dont need the skills that theother classes favor but they are needed to a lesser extend so the skill levlel required for all classes is in my oppinion the same!

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Posted March 13 2014 - 12:27 AM

no skill for a heavy?

Its the lichts that are skill-less people who play it. Jumping in the air, racing about making eratic maneuvres, its the new people who do not know how to handle these skill-less noobs. A heavy needs carefull positioning, and good team play to have your back coverd, or your faster dead then you can react.
More respect for the heavies, then the skill-less jump noobs. And yes, I never play heavy, and yes, I find the fliers rather easy to kill, just wait till they plumet down, or fire a rocket where you know they come out.

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