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Weekly Development Update: 11/19/2013


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#1 [HWK]ZamboniChaos

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Posted November 19 2013 - 10:27 AM

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Hello Everyone!

As of now we are still on target to provide our next update to you the first week of December. The studio put the finishing touches on the build Friday and handed it off to the Seattle team for the final rounds of testing! As a studio we now turn our heads back to development, but will still address any must-fix issues that surface during the final weeks of testing. We should have more information to share about what's coming soon, but you all already know a new map will be making its appearance and we will have some seasonal fun available as well.

The larger topic this week touches on Pilot Rating (sometimes referred to as MMR) which continues to be a hot debate. There is sometimes a misconception that this value is completely discarded and that's simply not true. What we have is a situation where user population, server regions, latency, pilot skill, pilot rank, available game modes and more must all be considered when attempting to achieve balance matches for our players. It’s very important to note that we don’t use Pilot Rating nor Pilot Level on their own when finding matches for players, but rather a combination of the two. We completely understand that playing in balanced matches is important for HAWKEN, and we don’t want to give the impression that we feel Pilot Rating or Pilot Level can somehow magically determine a completely balanced match. We were working on an improved system that would become even more accurate by taking more of the conditions mentioned above into account, but that had to be put on hold in order to work on latency, server performance and other more pressing network needs. Yup… priorities. In summary, we consider both Pilot Rating and Pilot Level when matchmaking and when balancing teams. Pilot Rating is used far more than it may appear on the surface.

On the subject of network performance, we made some changes with this upcoming patch which should hopefully improve the latency spikes you may see during gameplay. This doesn't mean that every problem will disappear, but we are continuing our investigation and will actively work on the issue as it's not something simple. It does however remain one of our very highest priorities. We also have a dedicated team working on improving other online systems which may on occasion negatively impact the performance of the game for a brief amount of time. Some great changes are being made to how data is managed and we are doing everything we can to ensure the user experience is as good as it can possibly be. We are not at all satisfied with its current state and want to make sure that’s clear to all of you.

We continue to thank you for the continued support and be sure to check back again soon for another weekly update!

 

Jason Hughes
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#2 Starrphy

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Posted November 19 2013 - 10:28 AM

"It’s very important to note that we don’t use Pilot Rating nor Pilot Level on their own when finding matches for players, but rather a combination of the two."

That only aplies to quicksearch.. Noone uses that unless there is (yet again) a joining issue, The problem lies with Server Browser - there it only is divided by level.

And yay lagg fixies.

Edited by Starrphy, November 19 2013 - 10:31 AM.

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Posted November 19 2013 - 10:28 AM

can someone make a tl;dr with bulletpounts?

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Posted November 19 2013 - 10:32 AM

^Just read it! Don't be lazy. :P

Thanks for the update, team! Looking forward to smoother gameplay!

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Posted November 19 2013 - 10:33 AM

NO NUKES ?

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Posted November 19 2013 - 10:34 AM

View PostKer4u, on November 19 2013 - 10:28 AM, said:

can someone make a tl;dr with bulletpounts?

Yapping about MMR and balance - balance is done by MMR and Pilot Level. (which is.. useless.. Serverbrowser -> only level division). And they'll fix lagg.


If I missed anything... Well wait for the official TL;DR. :P
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Posted November 19 2013 - 10:43 AM

This is all great to hear Hughes. Thanks again for keeping us in the loop :)

I'm really looking forward to this patch and the new map!

Edited by Pastorius, November 19 2013 - 10:44 AM.

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Posted November 19 2013 - 10:43 AM

for TLDR people:

-next update: the first week of December
-new map!
-seasonal styling
-improved network performance

we consider both Pilot Rating(MMR) and Pilot Level when matchmaking and when balancing teams and continue to improve the system
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BTW what about Predator vision fix for low resolutions ?

Edited by Gorbachev, November 19 2013 - 10:46 AM.

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Posted November 19 2013 - 10:48 AM

Eh. This is kinda water bewitched. Will the next update bring changes to the Predator (Dew's suggestions + disable locking hellfires on a cloaked pred)? Will it address the Infiltrator's radar visibility when cloaked? Will it revise the skillfires? Will it fix the jump pads that don't work properly?

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Posted November 19 2013 - 10:49 AM

That's a whole lot of "priorities" I read in there...

Though they seem justified so please, do continue as explained.

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Posted November 19 2013 - 10:49 AM

View PostKer4u, on November 19 2013 - 10:28 AM, said:

can someone make a tl;dr with bulletpounts?
Thre is no bullet points.

Edited by Rajhin, November 19 2013 - 10:50 AM.


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Posted November 19 2013 - 10:50 AM

"Seasonal Fun"
I hope it's like last December, last year you guys did some cool stuff. Nifty little visual changes to projectiles and a big ol tree on top of the (still) unused AA in Prosk.
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Posted November 19 2013 - 11:12 AM

View PostStarrphy, on November 19 2013 - 10:28 AM, said:

"It’s very important to note that we don’t use Pilot Rating nor Pilot Level on their own when finding matches for players, but rather a combination of the two."

That only aplies to quicksearch.. Noone uses that unless there is (yet again) a joining issue, The problem lies with Server Browser - there it only is divided by level.

And yay lagg fixies.

I only play with quickmatch, I don't choose my opponents, neither the battlefield, because I'm a MAN. And I've got BALLS OF STEEL. Searching matches is for pussies.

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Posted November 19 2013 - 11:53 AM

Thanks for the update! cant wait for the new map :-)

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Posted November 19 2013 - 12:43 PM

"...and we will have some seasonal fun available as well."

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Posted November 19 2013 - 12:45 PM

Thanks guys

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Posted November 19 2013 - 12:49 PM

ArccBR, on November 19 2013 - 11:12 AM, said:

Posted ImageStarrphy, on , said:

"It’s very important to note that we don’t use Pilot Rating nor Pilot Level on their own when finding matches for players, but rather a combination of the two."

That only aplies to quicksearch.. Noone uses that unless there is (yet again) a joining issue, The problem lies with Server Browser - there it only is divided by level.

And yay lagg fixies.

I only play with quickmatch, I don't choose my opponents, neither the battlefield, because I'm a MAN. And I've got BALLS OF STEEL. Searching matches is for pussies.

For real LIKE a MAN

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Posted November 19 2013 - 01:03 PM

Will we be having some clan options in the next patch, or maybe a way to organize scrims of that sort?
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Posted November 19 2013 - 01:52 PM

Last polishing ended successfully. I even added extra wax to speed things up! Seattle tester's team be careful not to slip. :P

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'Network performance - Improve the latency..' Maybe I'll turn on PhysX features again. Definitely excited!

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Posted November 19 2013 - 02:04 PM

Good stuff, appreciate these update. Good to know you guys are taking a hard look at network performance. Thanks for the birthday update ;)




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