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#1 Lethal_Kebab

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Posted November 27 2012 - 05:26 PM

My computer specs:

AMD Phenom 2 - 1090, 6 core CPU running at 3.6hgz
2 x GTX 550 Ti - SLI mode, I have tried with and without SLI
8 GB Ram
64Bit Windows 7 OS
42" LCD TV/Monitor connected via HDMI
Asus M5a99X EVO motherboard

At any resolution, with the gfx set to low, no physx etc, the game is unaplayable and choppy.

BUT

On my other system, computer specs:

Intel Core i5-2400 @ 3.3 Ghz
4 GB Ram
Windows 7 32 bit
GTS 250 nvidia (single card)
Gigabyte H67MA-D2H-B3 motherboard
19" LED monitor

at 1280 x 720 (game defualted) with ULTRA gfx settings, the game is as smooth as silk and very enjoable... no hickups, stutters, lag or anything....

3 issues i believe could be the problem....

1. AMD vs Intel CPU
2. 32 bit vs 64 bit OS
3. 42" Monitor vs 19"

I know it take a lot of power to drive 42" monitor, however, should that not be achievable on GTX 550ti in SLI mode?

please let me know your thoughts.....
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#2 Dread_Lord_Pitr

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Posted November 27 2012 - 06:00 PM

I'd say it's the AMD CPU.
I've owned 2 AMD systems prior to my current i7 system, both had issues with games a LOT.
Might have been the Asus mobo's i used (i ALWAYS have problems with Asus builds, even for customers), but i get the feeling optimization for AMD systems simply isn't where it should be on most games.

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#3 SUPPPORT_ARE_TROOPS!

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Posted November 27 2012 - 06:44 PM

Are your texture settings set to low on the 32 bit machine?  if not, you should be crashing...often. (Not that that's a good thing.)

#4 Lethal_Kebab

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Posted November 27 2012 - 07:03 PM

the texture settings on the 32 bit are set to high, however you are correct, post match and exit from the game, the crash report wants to send information. I have to re-boot to play on ultra settings again.
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Posted November 27 2012 - 07:04 PM

any by the way, would it not be unacceptable to not optimise for AMD cpu's? if that is in fact the cause of the issue? the way i see it, it has to be a 50/50 split between home computers being AMD vs INTEL.... no? the makers of this game would be excluding a large chunk of their potential customer base....
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Posted November 27 2012 - 07:42 PM

View PostLethal_Kebab, on November 27 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

any by the way, would it not be unacceptable to not optimise for AMD cpu's? if that is in fact the cause of the issue? the way i see it, it has to be a 50/50 split between home computers being AMD vs INTEL.... no? the makers of this game would be excluding a large chunk of their potential customer base....

Gaming wise intel is far more popular.

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Posted November 27 2012 - 08:05 PM

I guess so... I hope they fix this issue, I dont want to have to buy a new computer just to play it... lol
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#8 Lethal_Kebab

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Posted November 28 2012 - 04:30 AM

ok.. here is an update

Not sure what its worth, but I tried progressively tunning down the settings as I returned to the lobby after getting my ass handed to me each time during death match.

I had a CPU monitor running while i was in window mode and it never exceeded 33%.

I went down to the lowest resolution available, physx off, and low for both, AA at 1x and only capped smooth selected.

I dont think its a CPU bottle neck... if it was, wouldnt my CPU be overloaded? or say at constant 80% +

I hope this issue is identified.... if there is anything you need me to do, or any 'reporting software' you want me to use while playing the game, i would be more than happy to....
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Posted November 28 2012 - 08:54 AM

It could just be that you are running duel in SLI mode or the HDMI interface, I have the same card GTX 550 Ti 2gb single plugged into my 32" TV res 1360x768 MIDI interface and she runs just fine.  Try using the MIDI interface... ;)
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Posted November 28 2012 - 10:43 AM

It's the six cores. You need to limit hawken to at most the first four in the task manager for affinity. If that doesn't help try limiting it to 2 cores.
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#11 Lethal_Kebab

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Posted December 01 2012 - 01:42 AM

ok... here is the final update...

The game is playable now at the lowest resolution, affinity changes to processors did not help, nor did 'non-sli' mode, what did help however, was setting the process priority to 'High'. I can now play at 'low' settings on 1024 x 768 with all other bells and whistles switched to off... still jerky everynow and then.. but hey.. better than not playing at all...

hope it gets better for final release...
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Posted December 01 2012 - 04:18 AM

View PostLethal_Kebab, on November 27 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

any by the way, would it not be unacceptable to not optimise for AMD cpu's? if that is in fact the cause of the issue? the way i see it, it has to be a 50/50 split between home computers being AMD vs INTEL.... no? the makers of this game would be excluding a large chunk of their potential customer base....
In terms of gaming PCs, according to Steam, it's more like 73/26 in favor of Intel.

It's definitely not 64-bit OS (I'm running on that) and the TV shouldn't matter either. It's really either the AMD CPU. Devs have to optimize more for AMD than for Intel (it really should not be running nearly that bad even on an AMD processor), but even then it's not going to be as smooth as the Intel due to its age and architectural inferiority.
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