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Posted September 12 2013 - 12:30 PM

I have combined my other two posts for this subject, into this one, so that people don't have to scroll through so many pages to find what they are looking for.

Hopefully it has simplified it :unsure:

To start with, I would just like to say a big thank you to all the people who helped me with this project, in the form of information, suggestions and ideas. I couldn't have done all this without your help.

This is a great and very talented community we have here. I've seen it come together with other projects like this and create some amazing things, from songs to wallpapers. It's an honor to be a part of it.

so this is how it started.

OdinTheWise asked in another post somewhere, that it would be a nice idea to have a map of Illal to add more realism to the game.

No one had made one, so I thought I'd give it a go.

I've been making planet and solar system maps for a while now for a project I was working on for a few years, that I since shelved. So I figured it should be easy.

This is a map showing where I think the locations of the game maps are. Plus a few more places of interest.

EDIT: Please note, I have completely reworked these maps of Illal to make them fit in better to the game and Hawken Lore. I apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. All the newest maps of Illal are on page 8. So if you want to skip all of this, you can just go there.

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Below is the finished, reworked, HD map of Illal, Illal 2.03.
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When I started the original thread, I had very little to go on. All I new was that there were three continents.

This is the first map i made on September 1. 2013
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I took this from a map I'd already made for an Earth like planet. Like I said, I didn't have much to go by.

I had several comments about this and how much it didn't look anything like Illal, lol.  I also had some comments giving me information about how it should look. So, on the same day and with the extra info from OdinTheWise,  Erathic and FakeName, I made this.
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On September 2, 2013, I made this little animation that I put together using the second map. The first animation I have ever made.
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I made the textures in Paint Shop Pro, then I made the planet in Bryce 7. I rendered 179 separate frames, then made the animation in Animation Shop, which came with Paint Shop Pro.

After this, I got some more feedback from OdinTheWise and Erathic. Still on September 2, I made this, with forested areas, mountains and some large mega cities.
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After some more feedback from OdinTheWise about the cities, I made some alterations and posted this, on September 3, 2013.
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Edited by SandSpider, October 26 2014 - 01:35 PM.


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Posted September 12 2013 - 12:52 PM

After this, I made a little render.
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Then, on 5 September, Erathic made this stunning animation.

View Posterathic, on September 04 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

GREETINGS FROM ILAL

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Thanks SandSpider the maps are gorgeous !!

Edit : now it loop !

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View PostPelax, on September 04 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

I hate U Eric!!! I was gonna do it myself too.. but TOMORROW! :lol:

LOL, XD (by the way you should do it ! it's a good and fun exercise for shaders pratice )



here is the C4D if you want to play with it >> Download


had to find a tricky way to make the nigh lights only appear on the shadow side
I used a cube (wich is invisible) added a constraint that make it always look at the main light (this step is optional)
then on the night map i made 2 layers of alpha one using the texture and one proximal shader based on the cube
so now if i move the light the night lights  will always only display on the "shadow" side.

not sure if the technique is the best, but it works

also i used 4 spheres for the planet :

Surface ( diffuse + bump) 100cm diam
Night lights (used as alpha + proximal shader) 100.1cm
Cloud (used as alpha+ bump to fake the cloud shadows) 100.3 cm diam
Atmosphere (very small fresnel shader + specular) 100.4cm diam

1 volumetric light on the background to simulate the glow with better control
1 light for.. light

This received a lot of great feedback and deservedly so.

View PostSandSpider, on September 04 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

WOW Erathic, great job. That's really lovely animation. The lighting is superb.



WOOHOO!!!!!!! YAY FOR LOOPS!

Looks even more awesome.

View PostOdinTheWise, on September 04 2013 - 04:23 PM, said:

View Posterathic, on September 04 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

GREETINGS FROM ILAL

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Thanks SandSpider the maps are gorgeous !!

Edit : now it loop !

ERMA GURD!!!! I just jizzed my self

View PostRocky1822, on September 04 2013 - 07:25 PM, said:

View Posterathic, on September 04 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

GREETINGS FROM ILAL

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Thanks SandSpider the maps are gorgeous !!

Edit : now it loop !
Whoa!!! Thats just Epic man! look how its improved from just a green dusty globe to one of full detail in a short time!!
SandSpider, You are really hardworking...

*any devs out there, get this thing stickied fast!!*

After this, Erathic gave me some info about the solar system.

View Posterathic, on September 05 2013 - 12:08 AM, said:

Thanks ! =))

By the way i'm reading again the graphic novel and found that Ilal "solar system" is composed of 6 planets including Ilal
theses planet are not infected (yet?), but might host some colonies similar to Ilal too, so SandSpider if you want you can imagine/create thoses planets as well  as there not much info about them (still digging), you can free your imagination on their look and even their names =)

so I decided to make some more maps and write down some information about the planets. Still on 5 September, I posted this.

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Then Erathic posted this beautiful wallpaper.

View Posterathic, on September 05 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

I made some sort of fictional UI with the Ilap maps, and some old interface elements (recycling yay)
fits wallpaper sizes (Updated my wallpaper topic)


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After a lot of great feedback from the community, the Dev's got wind of what we were doing. One of the game developers posted this.

View Post[HWK]Vanashinkaku, on September 05 2013 - 03:15 PM, said:

mind blown, this is absolutely fantastic!





Edited by SandSpider, December 03 2013 - 06:10 AM.


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Posted September 12 2013 - 01:13 PM

View PostOdinTheWise, on September 05 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

View Posterathic, on September 05 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

I made some sort of fictional UI with the Ilap maps, and some old interface elements (recycling yay)
fits wallpaper sizes (Updated my wallpaper topic)


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Very nice. This is shaping up very nicely. If any one wants advice on planet design I can help. I enjoy thinking of alien worlds and other space stuff. I am a huge sci fi fan.

View Postonehourleft, on September 05 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

View Posterathic, on September 05 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

I made some sort of fictional UI with the Ilap maps, and some old interface elements (recycling yay)
fits wallpaper sizes (Updated my wallpaper topic)


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Great!  I added it to my desktop backgrounds.

View Postonehourleft, on September 05 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

View Posterathic, on September 05 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

I made some sort of fictional UI with the Ilap maps, and some old interface elements (recycling yay)
fits wallpaper sizes (Updated my wallpaper topic)


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Great!  I added it to my desktop backgrounds.

After that, Yahnnus made this brilliant interactive App that looks amazing.

View PostYahnnus, on September 07 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

This is sooo nice, I couldnt help to enter the game too...

>>> link

View Posterathic, on September 07 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

Hehe it's no competition it's co-op ! ^^

OMG as always amazing job Yahnnus !
I think this project have the potential for a very cool HAWKEN Screensaver ;)
i'll export the UI i made for the wallpaper =P

SandSpider do you have an even higher resolution of your maps ?

View PostYahnnus, on September 07 2013 - 02:34 PM, said:

Of course it's team work !!
I see SandSpider made the other planetes ... with his approval (an planetes textures ^^) i'd like to make the complete solar system with the ability to zoom on each planet like in Mass effect : solar system , planet viewer
And of course with Erathic's UI which is always awesome!!
Also, great job SandSpider for every details on each planets !!

View PostPastorius, on September 07 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

I've been away for like, an afternoon and I come back, log on and now we have this!?

You guys are nuts.

This is outstanding!

View PostYahnnus, on September 07 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

Added a little update, now when you do : right click > Go fullscreen, it's real fullscreen
I'll add this feature to the hawken mech customizer tomorow for high res screenshots ^^

>> Enjoy ! <<

View PostSandSpider, on September 07 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

View PostYahnnus, on September 07 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

Added a little update, now when you do : right click > Go fullscreen, it's real fullscreen
I'll add this feature to the hawken mech customizer tomorow for high res screenshots ^^

>> Enjoy ! <<

OK, now this is seriously cool and seriously amazing! I'll try and upload higher res images of the other planets tomorrow for you. I actually made the solar system in Universe Sandbox, available on Steam, to get the all the sizes and distances.  Question, would you like textures for the moons as well. Oh, and if anyone knows, does Illal have any moons?

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View PostSandSpider, on September 07 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

Question, would you like textures for the moons as well. Oh, and if anyone knows, does Illal have any moons?

Yes of course ^^ (doesn't know either if ilal has a moon but i guess/hope it has one ;) )

Edited by SandSpider, September 12 2013 - 01:20 PM.


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Posted September 12 2013 - 01:37 PM

View PostPastorius, on September 07 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

Yahnnus said:

Added a little update.
Woooooouuw whaaaaat?... I'm speechless or textless or whatever the equivalent for the internets is...

View Posterathic, on September 07 2013 - 06:18 PM, said:

View PostSandSpider, on September 07 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

View Posterathic, on September 07 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

Hehe it's no competition it's co-op ! ^^

OMG as always amazing job Yahnnus !
I think this project have the potential for a very cool HAWKEN Screensaver ;)
i'll export the UI i made for the wallpaper =P

SandSpider do you have an even higher resolution of your maps ?


Ummm, how big do you want them? :wacko:


If available, the higher the better ! so maybe we can make some close-up or little zoom view, like this :

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View PostYahnnus, on September 07 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

Added a little update, now when you do : right click > Go fullscreen, it's real fullscreen
I'll add this feature to the hawken mech customizer tomorow for high res screenshots ^^

>> Enjoy ! <<

yeaaaaaahhhhh !!!!!!

View PostHouruck, on September 08 2013 - 02:50 AM, said:

IIRC Illal has a moon mentioned in the comic book and there was even a hint about a moon map in the game files.

View PostRocky1822, on September 08 2013 - 03:47 AM, said:

Sandspider, Erathic ,And Yahnnus........ YOU GUYS MAKE ME BREAK MY LIKE BUTTON!!! :D

View PostOdinTheWise, on September 09 2013 - 09:14 AM, said:

I would say that Illal has at least one moon that is habitted. But i want to say that it has a few smaller ones just to make it feel more exotic. Also if I remember rite, the novel never specified how many suns it had ;) I am rooting for a binary star system.

View PostOdinTheWise, on September 09 2013 - 09:14 AM, said:

I would say that Illal has at least one moon that is habitted. But i want to say that it has a few smaller ones just to make it feel more exotic. Also if I remember rite, the novel never specified how many suns it had ;) I am rooting for a binary star system.


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Posted September 12 2013 - 02:06 PM

Because I now have a copy of HAWKEN: Genesis, I am able to create a more accurate illustration of the Illal system which is set in the Kepler-11 system.


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The Illal System:

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Above is a revised diagram of the Illal solar system with the relative sizes of the six planets. I have taken the liberty of moving the sixth planet further from the star into the habitable zone. I have also shrunk this planet to a size slightly larger than the Earth, so it fits into Hawken Lore.

The Illal solar system was first surveyed in the middle of the twenty second century, during a time now known as The Great Expansion, by the deep space exploration ship, SNARK.

The discovery of the rare mineral Caverite in the system, secured it a special and important place at the time.

The first people to settle on Illal, found that the atmosphere was un-breathable. As a result, many large atmosphere processing plants were set up to terraform it. These continue to maintain the atmosphere today.  They also found some ancient ruins scattered around that date back thousands of years, some of which go deep into the planet. At the moment, no one knows who built them.

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Let us start with the star.

At the heart of the Illal system, is it's sun, Kepler-11. Kepler-11 is a sun like star, slightly larger than the Sun, in the constellation Cygnus, located some 2,000 light years from Earth. Kepler-11 is a G-type star that is approximately 95% the mass of and 110% the radius of the Sun. It has a surface temperature of 5680c and is 8 billion years old, In comparison, the Sun is about 4.6 billion years old and has a surface temperature of 5778c

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Helos

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Closest planet to star
Size: Diam 24637km
Mass 4.30 Earths
Avg Temp 738 c
Orbital Year 10.3 days
Length of Day 58.6 days
Distance from star 13.6 million km

Helos is a large, actively volcanic world with a thin, toxic atmosphere. It is a rocky planet with an iron core. Several large deposits of Caverite can be found on this planet, but the harsh atmosphere makes it difficult and expensive to extract.

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Konsu

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Second planet from star.
Size: Diam 39388 km
Mass 13.5 Earths
Avg Temp 656c
Orbital Year 12.9 days
Length of Day 12.4 days
Distance from Star 15.9 km

Konsu is classed as a small gas giant mainly composed of hydrogen chloride, with an Iron core. It has no moons and has not been colonised.

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Posted September 12 2013 - 02:57 PM

Etal

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Third planet from star.
Size: Diam 42897km
Mass  6.10 Earths
Avg Temp 485c
Orbital Year 23.7 days
Length of day 17.2 hours
Distance from star 28.3m km

Etal is classed as a small gas giant. It is mainly composed of hydrogen and helium, with a rocky core. It has a small ring system and no moons.

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Maeff

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Maeff  (pronounced, May-ef)
Forth planet from star
Size: Diam 56530km
Mass 8.40 Earths
Avg Temp 411c
Orbital Year 32 days
Length of day 9.93 hours
Distance from Star 29m km

Maeff is a medium sized blue gas giant mainly composed of hydrogen, helium and methane. It has an extensive ring system and 14 moons. The moons are mainly composed of rock. The inner most moon, named Foenus, has a thick atmosphere which is highly toxic, but it has an average surface temp of 14c. It has high concentrations of minerals. It has been colonized and is extensively mined.

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Posted September 12 2013 - 03:25 PM

Kalec

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Fifth Planet from star
Size: Diam 32648km
Mass 2.30 Earths
Avg Temp 328c
Orbital Year 46.9 days
Length of day 1.03 day
Distance from Star 37.4m km

Kalec is a large rocky planet, similar in make up to Venus. It has a thick, corrosive atmosphere that is made up of mainly carbon dioxide and nitrogen. The planet is covered in a thick layer of cloud mainly composed of sulfuric acid.

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Posted September 12 2013 - 03:48 PM

Illal



Sixth planet from star

Physics
  
Type: Standard iron/silicate
Radius: 6910.70 km   (1.08 x earth)
Surface Area: 6.00 x 108 km2
Land Area: 1.86 x 108 km2   (1.25 x earth)
Mass: 6.61 x 1024 kg   (1.11 x earth)
Density: 4.78 g/cm3   (0.87 x earth)
Composition: 34.3% iron, 26.4% oxygen, 18.0% sulphur, 14.1% silicon, 2.9% other metals, 4.4% other elements

Gravimetry
  
Gravity: 9.20 m/s2   (0.94 x earth)
Escape Velocity: 11.28 km/s

Rotation  

Period: 23.75 hours
Axis Tilt : 18.09 °

Hydrosphere

Water:    50 %
Ice: 15 %

Original Atmosphere

Type: Thin toxic
Pressure: 68.60 kPa   (0.68 x earth)
Composition: 84.5% carbon dioxide, 15.5% argon, trace other gases

Climate  

Type: Cool
Min Temp: 189 K   (-83 °C)
Avg Temp: 293 K   (20 °C)
Max Temp: 336 K   (63 °C)

Civilization  

Type: Colony
Population: 7.77 million

Distance from star 1.05au on the inner edge of the habitable zone

Geological surveys have shown that just a few thousand years ago,  Illal used to be a sub tropical planet covered in dense jungle and desert. Now, it is covered with technology and It's atmosphere is just like that of the Earth. It is however, toxic in certain areas where the atmospheric possessors have stopped working because of the Hawken virus.

Many alien artifacts and some ruins have been unearthed during the colonization process. No one knows if these were put here by an indigenous population, or a former colony of some, as yet unknown, alien race.

Although Illal is slightly further from it's star than Earth is to the sun, it's average surface temperature is slightly higher, due to Kepler-11 being slightly larger than the sun. Illal has seasons similar to Earth. This is because Illal is tilted on it's axis like the Earth. It is also because Illal has a slightly elliptical orbit. This means that at certain times, Illal is closer to Kepler 11 and other times it is further away.

Illal is approximately twice as old as Earth. This means that Illal's core has cooled down to a point where the outer crust is now stable. Because of this stabilisation, there is hardly any kind of tectonic plate activity, which means no earthquakes and no active volcanoes.

Illal has one moon named Fennon. It is a large moon, being slightly smaller than Mars, with comparable gravity. It has a thin, but breathable, atmosphere and is still undergoing terraforming. A large proportion of the people who left Illal because of the virus have relocated to this moon.


Illal's moon Fennon

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Size: Diam 6779km
Mass: 8.70 moons
Orbital Cycle 33.4 days
Length of Day 19hr
Distance from Illal  453,598 km

Fennon is a large moon, slightly smaller in size than Mars, with a similar gravity. It has a thin atmosphere and has been colonized. A large proportion of the evacuated population of Illal have relocated here. So far it remains virus free.

Fennon has one mega city called Kalisar, which is about two thousand km across. The UTA has established a large military base and command and control centre on the outskirts of the city to coordinate the quarantine of Illal. The city is fed by a huge man made reservoir north of the city.  There are other, smaller settlements all over the moon. These however, are not visible from orbit.
The lights of Kalisar are visible at night from Illal.


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Posted September 12 2013 - 08:50 PM

Maeff's Moons

Maeff's 14 moons. The moons are mainly composed of rock and ice. The inner most moon, named Foenus, has a thick atmosphere which is highly toxic. It has an average surface temp of 14c due to continuous volcanic activity caused by gravitational sheer. It has high concentrations of minerals. It has been colonized and is extensively mined.

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Maeff's moon Foenus

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Second moon Kaia
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Third moon Dakmet
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Posted September 12 2013 - 09:12 PM

Forth moon Itzama
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Fifth moon Tahima
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Sixth moon Jaylin
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Seventh moon Enyad
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Eighth moon Nemet
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Posted September 12 2013 - 09:19 PM

Ninth moon Deem
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Tenth moon Saytov
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Eleventh moon Tarsos
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Twelfth moon Lamia
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Thirteenth moon Eshada
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Posted September 12 2013 - 09:28 PM

Fourteenth moon Yatis
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That concludes our tour of the Illal system. We hope you enjoy your visit.

Original posts:
https://community.pl...l-map-of-illal/

https://community.pl...e-illal-system/

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Posted September 16 2013 - 01:42 PM

A view of Illal's moon Fennon, With Illal in the distance. The lights of Kalisar can be clearly seen. The ship on the left is the UTA Sentinel class battleship Aurora.

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Posted September 22 2013 - 03:01 AM

I now have, thanks to the kind generosity of a complete stranger, a copy of HAWKEN: Genesis. It is a must read for anyone interested in the game. I will be updating information and the maps on this post to make it as accurate as I can.

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Posted September 29 2013 - 10:18 AM

Hello guys,
It's been awhile since the last time i came here, ... must have been busy ... working on some projects like this and others...
Fullscreen mode isn't fully supported for now (some UI position problems).

Enjoy!

Y.

Edit : click and drag to rotate, mouse wheel to zoom(in global view), click on planets for close view

Edited by Yahnnus, September 29 2013 - 10:20 AM.


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Posted September 30 2013 - 04:13 PM

WOW, you've done it again. Awesome work Yahnnus, it's brilliant.

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Posted September 30 2013 - 04:25 PM

I tipped off the devs btw, <3

because bow ties are cool


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Posted October 05 2013 - 03:43 AM

All I have to say about this is:
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Always on the move / My trigger finger itches / If it moves, shoot it!  Posted Image8;;8

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Posted October 05 2013 - 08:05 AM

WOW, thanks TelJaxx. It was a community effort.


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Posted October 05 2013 - 01:42 PM

Brilliant work as always!




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