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#1 JoNaXKaY

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Posted November 26 2012 - 09:20 PM

hi people. im new at this forum and i dont have the game yet. but i wanna know if is this pay to win game? why? cuz im thinking on buying it, but im done with pay to win games (....diablo...), and i was like... what if you pay real money and get the best items for mechs?? i dont want that. its real annoying. if we are talking about custom skins and bla bla bla... its great, but in the moment that you get an advantage, compared to other players, just for pay real money the game becomes trash.
please answers this question. its or its not pay to win game??

thanks in advance. good luck

#2 Evolwar

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Posted November 26 2012 - 09:23 PM

There has been videos of this game stating its not pay to win.

Edited by Evolwar, November 26 2012 - 09:23 PM.


#3 marshalade

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Posted November 26 2012 - 09:24 PM

No. All real-money transactions go toward XP and credit boosts or cosmetic items. For the record...considering Diablo isn't multiplayer in the pvp sense, it's not really pay-to-win either.

Edited by marshalade, November 26 2012 - 09:25 PM.

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#4 Gagzila

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Posted November 26 2012 - 09:27 PM

Please search before just blindly posting...here is but one of many threads on the matter.

http://community.pla...-to-win-please/

Cheers,

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By the way, you double posted this topic...you might want to request both to be removed and post in the above thread I have linked if you want to add to the discussion (which there isn't really anymore since it's not a P2W game ;))
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#5 G4M5T3R

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Posted November 27 2012 - 01:24 PM

This game is based on Skill. Even you mech lvl doesn't give you any Real advantage.
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#6 Cyclonus

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Posted November 27 2012 - 01:33 PM

View Postmarshalade, on November 26 2012 - 09:24 PM, said:

No. All real-money transactions go toward XP and credit boosts or cosmetic items. For the record...considering Diablo isn't multiplayer in the pvp sense, it's not really pay-to-win either.
Actually you can buy weapons with meteor points, I did last cb.

Edited by Cyclonus, November 27 2012 - 01:33 PM.


#7 FuryMonster

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Posted November 27 2012 - 03:30 PM

i could use a lvl 1 blank mech and face a lvl 20 with full items and still top the charts vs 50%+ of this playerbase

if u spend the $20-50 or what ever to get the points to buy all the stuff on day1 you would only have that advanage for 1-2-3 days max before people started geting enough points

if you are on the wining team and do well you get 109 points  if you do that say 15 games you can buy an internal rinse repeat for a few days and you have all your stuff, the only expensive thing is buying mechs but the assault mech is a solid starting one to begin with

talent points are not a big deal from xp boost levels , but having items such as emp / radar is pretty good advantage but like i said it would only be for 1-3 days max then it will all even out

Edited by FuryMonster, November 27 2012 - 03:31 PM.

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Posted March 25 2013 - 11:49 PM

no this is a skill based game money just makes you level faster and look cooler. also you dont buy the game, its free
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View PostAsianJoyKiller, on July 08 2014 - 03:49 PM, said:

You're exactly right.

#9 Guiotine

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Posted March 26 2013 - 12:45 AM

edit: omfg OP I just re-read your post. This game is free to play (F2P), that means you do not need to buy it, heck, you could play this game for years and not spend a single cent on it, if you were so inclined. Just find the DL link on the site and hop in. :D Actually, I found it for you. https://www.playhawken.com/download/ ;)

The easiest way to describe the price model is P2NotGrind (P2LookFabulous is also acceptable :P). There are two types of credits, blue Hakwen Credits (HC), which are "bought" with time, you get them at the end of a match depending on time played, with minor bonuses based on performance. Red Meteor Credits, (MC) are bought with real money. $5 worth of MC (a total of 720 MC) will net you one mech, A pretty fair price imo.

Each mech has 1 secondary (AKA special) weapon, and a total of 3 primary weapons, including the starting one. The last one is available for purchase, with either HC or MC, at max mech level (25) and is known as a "prestige weapon". It should be noted that these prestige weapons really only allow another playstyle choice, they are not necessarily better than other items in the mech's loadout. Your second primary, earned at level 4, is free. Each mech also has 2 item slots, every mech starts with one item (the actual item changes per mech), and you can buy a new item with either HC or MC,  the actual prices will vary depending  on the item. Furthermore, every mech has 3 internal slots. This can most closely be equated with "gear" in other games, but has a distinct difference. Every internal has a drawback. For example, there is an internal that grants a boost to armor (AKA health), but makes you deal less damage instead. The only exception are the "brand new" internals, which come standard on the starting mech and one other but that one is unavailable to the public. There is no other way to get the "Brand new" internals. There is a passive consumable called countermeasures (CM) that activate and provide a small boost under certain conditions. They can only be bought with HC. Anything cosmetic (meaning, nothing to do with combat), body parts, camos, thusters, repair drones, as well as HC or EXP boosts, are all only available through MC only. That is HAWKEN's pricing model pretty much. If it can be used in combat, HC can be used to buy it. If it only affects the appearance of your mech, only MC can be used to buy it.

This game actually has a really good pricing model, there is a bit of a grind, but hey, it's a F2P game, they have to incentivize you to pay money somehow. :P

Oh, nearly forgot. All accounts start with 5000 HC. It costs 6410 HC to buy a new mech. You could fill in the starting mech's second item slot (unlocked at level 2), or save up and buy a new mech! :D There are always two mechs available for test driving, so look into those as well, you might like them.

and finally, when you have a chance, follow this link:http://www.playhawken.com/#redeemcode It will make you log in again, that's fine. Just click the link again, then check you address bar to make sure the "#" symbol is before the word "redeem" (as there is a problem where it won't work right if it is not there) and copy paste these in to redeem them:
HAWKENEC3
HAWKENGDC
HAWKENPAXEAST
HAWKENSXSW

Each one (if they are still active) should grant you 5k HC. That lets you start off with 25k HC total. Have fun. :D

Edited by Guiotine, March 26 2013 - 01:00 AM.

ReachH said:

I dub thee, Guiotine, 'Coloxxen, the mech pokemon'

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#10 The_Eldritch_Abomination

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Posted March 26 2013 - 01:33 AM

We do not care what Forbes says about this game. It comes from the biased mind of a man who has obviously not played many F2P games, and does not understand the system. (And was probably pwned by so many Bezerkers and Infiltrators)

We do not care about the ramblings of the little men who state 'X is OP. He has it therefore this game is P2W QQ' or 'He managed to buy a camo to look cool there this game is P2W QQ'

We play this game because it is awesome, and is one of the better examples of a F2P business model.

We. Are. Legion.
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#11 necroq

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Posted March 26 2013 - 01:37 AM

HAWKEN is REAL free 2 play game. here are some facts:
  • all mechs / items / upgrades can be unlocked very quick when you just stay in the game (you don't even have shoot at enemy ;) )
  • you get good mech at the beginning
  • you will fight against newbies at the beginning
  • two important items like repair charge can be bought with free codes. check topics and news for offers
  • you have clear view and see enemy from everywhere.

p.s.: i payed 110€ so far. worth it!

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#12 Krellus

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Posted March 26 2013 - 02:22 AM

Hawken is pay2notgrind, not pay2win. There is a leveling process however, and the longer you play the more stuff you get (eg: repair ord, detonator, MG turrett, etc - some of the items make a big difference vs someone who hasnt got them yet).

Game is brilliant. DL it and see.

#13 Saturnine

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Posted March 26 2013 - 05:44 AM

You know guys, this thread is like 4 months old - I don't think this guy is seeing all these posts anymore. :P If he hadn't gotten into the game by 12-12-12 (knowing that when he made this thread the game was still in Closed Beta), he probably won't be coming back months and months later to see if his question has been answered. ;)

Hooray, thread necromancy! :D

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#14 Guiotine

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Posted March 26 2013 - 09:38 AM

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why the hell did I type that long ass response.....

meh, I guess now I can quote it in any other P2W threads.

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I dub thee, Guiotine, 'Coloxxen, the mech pokemon'

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