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#1 Saint_The_Judge

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Posted October 28 2012 - 01:01 PM

I'm not pointing finger. Maybe this is just a terrible coincidence, a fate. But my nephew just had a small seizure after 30 minutes playing Hawken. Here, in front of the PC, at my home, me watching. He is used to play all kinds of games and this is the first time it occurs to him. Thanks God he recovered in less than a minute, and is now at a hospital just to make a check up. I feel totally guilty for letting him play.
I myself got used to the shakiness, although I have to cool down after 45 minutes or so.
I had to come here to post this.
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Posted October 28 2012 - 01:03 PM

If your son has a history of seizures, he shouldn't be allowed to play video games. Any commercial games and a lot of indie games have warnings before the game starts and in the instruction manuals about how video games can cause epileptic seizures. This is your fault, not Hawkens.

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Posted October 28 2012 - 01:04 PM

Oh man, sorry to hear about your nephew. My little nephew suffers from epilepsy. Do you know if he might have been feeling strangely or ill during those 30 minutes before his seizure? KnightBlue makes a good point, I don't think a kid who's prone to seizures should be doing things that can induce them.

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Posted October 28 2012 - 01:07 PM

I can't see anything in this game that occurs more often than in other games. I'm going to assume the coincidence situation. I haven't noticed any adverse effects when I play this game, but I'm not medically susceptible to seizures.

As above I would ask about how he felt leading up to the event, and if he did feel odd, if he's had these feelings prior to playing Hawken. So like another game, perhaps. I know you said he's never experienced a seizure before, but that doesn't mean he hasn't felt odd with other games.

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#5 Saint_The_Judge

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Posted October 28 2012 - 01:08 PM

View PostKnightBlue, on October 28 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:

If your son has a history of seizures, he shouldn't be allowed to play video games. Any commercial games and a lot of indie games have warnings before the game starts and in the instruction manuals about how video games can cause epileptic seizures. This is your fault, not Hawkens.
It's not my son, it's my nephew, who is my brother's son. It's a family tree basic. And he doesn't have a history of seizures, as I pointed out clearly. Moreover, I'm not blaming Hawken, what is clear stated in my first phrase.
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Posted October 28 2012 - 01:12 PM

While the OP did say the kid had no history of seizures and this was the first time it had happened.  It is true that these types of games are known to cause reactions with epilepsy so it can't really be blamed on the game itself but now you know it's might be a good idea to keep this nephew away from shooters in general as nearly all shooters are especially shaky and/or flashy all the time nowadays.
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Posted October 28 2012 - 01:13 PM

Somehow I completely glanced over the bit that he hadn't had seizures before. -_- Sounds like he's due for some tests, at any rate. Glad he recovered quickly.
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Posted October 28 2012 - 01:20 PM

first off how old is he? secondly this is a beta test and you should read the agreement you accept before playing, since most agreements require you to be 18 to accept and play. Their legal gaurdian should have examined the game before they let the child play.  Also the game doesnt have any flashing lights that ive seen so i don't know what your point was in this thread (assuming you arent trolling). Plus i have a cousin who is 7-8 years old who was over here sitting next to me and playing the game, he didnt have any problems and i had the display duplicated on my monitor and tv. That seizure must have been caused by something else besides the game.

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Posted October 28 2012 - 01:21 PM

Sorry to hear about your nephew.
Judging by the fact that he doesn't have a history and he's played games before, it all seems like a freakish incident.
Hopefully it was just that and nothing more.

View PostKnightBlue, on October 28 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:

If your son has a history of seizures, he shouldn't be allowed to play video games. Any commercial games and a lot of indie games have warnings before the game starts and in the instruction manuals about how video games can cause epileptic seizures. This is your fault, not Hawkens.
Wow. Being a complete douchebag and failing at basic reading comprehension in one post.
Good job.

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#10 Dracoslayer16

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Posted October 28 2012 - 01:27 PM

Why are some of these posts being so hostile towards this guy?  Does anyone actually READ anymore?  He said right in his very first post:

View PostSaint_The_Judge, on October 28 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:

I'm not pointing finger. Maybe this is just a terrible coincidence, a fate.

He is simply bringing up an issue that might be worth paying attention to in the future.  Stop acting like Hawken is under attack by some evil force.
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Posted October 28 2012 - 01:34 PM

It is possible that this was some rare, one-off incident. Hopefully so.

A lot of things can cause seizures besides a videogame, though, remember that. Make sure he's checked thoroughly, just in case.
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Posted October 28 2012 - 01:37 PM

View PostDracoslayer16, on October 28 2012 - 01:27 PM, said:

Why are some of these posts being so hostile towards this guy?  Does anyone actually READ anymore?  He said right in his very first post:

View PostSaint_The_Judge, on October 28 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:

I'm not pointing finger. Maybe this is just a terrible coincidence, a fate.

He is simply bringing up an issue that might be worth paying attention to in the future.  Stop acting like Hawken is under attack by some evil force.
Even so most doctors do RECOMMEND people prone to such to stay away from videogames and even movies or TV shows using similar technologies. So even if a game doesn't include such warnings. Your doctor should have already warned you.

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Posted October 28 2012 - 01:40 PM

View PostDracoslayer16, on October 28 2012 - 01:27 PM, said:

Why are some of these posts being so hostile towards this guy?  Does anyone actually READ anymore?  He said right in his very first post:

View PostSaint_The_Judge, on October 28 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:

I'm not pointing finger. Maybe this is just a terrible coincidence, a fate.

He is simply bringing up an issue that might be worth paying attention to in the future.  Stop acting like Hawken is under attack by some evil force.

BUT IT IS!!! ALL OF HELL HAS RISEN TO TAKE ARMS UP AGAINST HAWKEN!!!
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On topic: Sorry for your nephew. Well let him play and if he has another one don't let him play anymore.

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Posted October 28 2012 - 01:41 PM

View PostDam187, on October 28 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:

View PostDracoslayer16, on October 28 2012 - 01:27 PM, said:

Why are some of these posts being so hostile towards this guy?  Does anyone actually READ anymore?  He said right in his very first post:

View PostSaint_The_Judge, on October 28 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:

I'm not pointing finger. Maybe this is just a terrible coincidence, a fate.

He is simply bringing up an issue that might be worth paying attention to in the future.  Stop acting like Hawken is under attack by some evil force.
Even so most doctors do RECOMMEND people prone to such to stay away from videogames and even movies or TV shows using similar technologies. So even if a game doesn't include such warnings. Your doctor should have already warned you.
Oh look, another reading comprehension failure.
Read the first paragraph. Dude says that his nephew has no history of seizures.
Several people have glazed over that little fact, including you.

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AJK is right

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Posted October 28 2012 - 01:56 PM

View PostAsianJoyKiller, on October 28 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

View PostDam187, on October 28 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:

View PostDracoslayer16, on October 28 2012 - 01:27 PM, said:

Why are some of these posts being so hostile towards this guy?  Does anyone actually READ anymore?  He said right in his very first post:

View PostSaint_The_Judge, on October 28 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:

I'm not pointing finger. Maybe this is just a terrible coincidence, a fate.

He is simply bringing up an issue that might be worth paying attention to in the future.  Stop acting like Hawken is under attack by some evil force.
Even so most doctors do RECOMMEND people prone to such to stay away from videogames and even movies or TV shows using similar technologies. So even if a game doesn't include such warnings. Your doctor should have already warned you.
Oh look, another reading comprehension failure.
Read the first paragraph. Dude says that his nephew has no history of seizures.
Several people have glazed over that little fact, including you.

Look who misread my quote. Let me spell it out for you. Even if he'd not mention your favorite quote of his-He should've known better because the kid's doctor told him that this could happen. So even if he isn't pointing fingers-I am. I know for a fact that doctors are MADE to make sure they give such people this warning. So call me ignorant or whatever, but the boys guardians are just as much as I am because I know this one little fact that isn't going to change no matter how many times you point to what he said.

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Posted October 28 2012 - 02:28 PM

View PostDam187, on October 28 2012 - 01:56 PM, said:

Look who misread my quote. Let me spell it out for you. Even if he'd not mention your favorite quote of his-He should've known better because the kid's doctor told him that this could happen. So even if he isn't pointing fingers-I am. I know for a fact that doctors are MADE to make sure they give such people this warning. So call me ignorant or whatever, but the boys guardians are just as much as I am because I know this one little fact that isn't going to change no matter how many times you point to what he said.
If you want to persist in being stupid, be my guest.
However, I suggest you learn to read.

View PostSaint_The_Judge, on October 28 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:

He is used to play all kinds of games and this is the first time it occurs to him.

View PostSaint_The_Judge, on October 28 2012 - 01:08 PM, said:

he doesn't have a history of seizures, as I pointed out clearly.
As you can see, the OP pointed out that the kid has no history of seizures.
This was a first time occurrence. The family had no reason to believe anything would happen.
A doctor won't warn people to stay away from possible seizure inducing activities if they have no reason to believe a person is prone to seizures.

But hey, don't let little facts like that get in your way.

[HWK]HUGHES, on July 03 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

AJK is right

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#17 MeteorMod04

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Posted October 28 2012 - 02:32 PM

Keep it kind, everyone. No need to get heated.

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Posted October 28 2012 - 02:34 PM

View PostModerator02, on October 28 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

Keep it kind, everyone. No need to get heated.
If they're going to jump on the poor guy and berate him without even fully reading what he posted, I'm not going any more kind than they were to him.

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#19 MeteorMod04

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Posted October 28 2012 - 02:42 PM

Well, everyone is prone to scan reading. :) Even I had to go back and re-read a few of everyone's comments. Let's not forget that we are all human here, and also let's all remember forum policy when it comes to appropriate and inappropriate behaviors. Heated words will accomplish nothing but derailing OP's thread entirely.

"What we have here is a failure to communicate!" ;)

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Posted October 28 2012 - 02:48 PM

View PostModerator02, on October 28 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

Well, everyone is prone to scan reading. :) Even I had to go back and re-read a few of everyone's comments. Let's not forget that we are all human here, and also let's all remember forum policy when it comes to appropriate and inappropriate behaviors. Heated words will accomplish nothing but derailing OP's thread entirely.


I disagree. I think what we have here is a failure to communicate. :)




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