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A Bazaar siege only server (for the sake of good ol' times)


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#1 EliteShooter

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Posted August 26 2014 - 03:21 AM

You wanted it removed cuz it's unbalanced and all, but some people don't give a damn and miss siege in that map.

Allow us to play siege in it again in a Bazaar siege only server. I mean, there are a lot of servers and it should be cool to get one working IN USE.




I mean, I can dream right?

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Posted August 26 2014 - 03:30 AM

Yeah I wouldn't mind.. but I think it will be empty most times, same as those mayhem servers that nobody visits.. at all... :-/
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Posted August 26 2014 - 06:05 AM

View PostBurnsHot, on August 14 2014 - 11:55 AM, said:

If I could make a request.  Please consider adding Siege Mode to more of your maps.  The map rotations needs more variety.  I understand why the Bazaar map was taken out of the rotation, but I was sad to see it go.  that's one less map now.  I did not mind playing Siege on Bazaar and would prefer to leave that decision up to the players.  If anyone felt that it was unfair then they could have chosen to skip that map when it came up.  I think you catered too much to those Tournament oriented players but for the average Joe like me, any real or perceived imperfection didn't matter. I was too busy having fun.

Damn Leet we actually are on the same side on this issue!  Who would have guessed.

I'm glad you posted because I was starting to feel like the only player asking for Siege to be reinstated on Bazaar map.

Actually, we need more Siege Maps! PERIOD!  Balance and symmetry be Damned just unlock Siege on Every Map and let the players decide which ones they opt in or out of.

Organized teams, Tournaments, or completive clans/players can pick and choose which map to host their games on so I don't see an issue here.  While they are busy trying to be the BEST, the rest of us are just looking to have fun so give us more Siege Maps!

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Posted August 26 2014 - 06:18 AM

Right. Because I love nothing more than watching an entire team ragequit because they got high spawn.

That was my favorite part of Bazaar Siege. Watching my entire team get frustrated, leave, new players join, see it's hopeless, leave, and on and on.

Totally awesome.

Edited by AsianJoyKiller, August 26 2014 - 06:18 AM.

[HWK]HUGHES, on July 03 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

AJK is right

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Posted August 26 2014 - 06:20 AM

View PostAsianJoyKiller, on August 26 2014 - 06:18 AM, said:

Right. Because I love nothing more than watching an entire team ragequit because they got high spawn.

That was my favorite part of Bazaar Siege. Watching my entire team get frustrated, leave, new players join, see it's hopeless, leave, and on and on.

Totally awesome.
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Posted August 26 2014 - 07:01 AM

Hated the imbalance on Bazaar Siege play.  Nevertheless, I really miss playing on that map and would like to see it become available again.
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Posted August 26 2014 - 08:16 AM

if Defter ever gets back to me or Xacius, I would be happy to default Salty Suite to Bazaar Siege. This would eliminate the rage quit problem because.. who even ragequits games when they need a password to get in?
(Though it would be USC :( )

Edited by ticklemyiguana, August 26 2014 - 08:16 AM.

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Posted August 26 2014 - 08:18 AM

Actually I loved SIege on Bazaar. Yes it is unbalanced, but the imbalance makes it balanced again. Sounds ironic right?
Both sides have the opposite advantages and disadvantages. And still, I miss this, as so much of the old Hawken :(

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Posted August 26 2014 - 08:20 AM

View Postticklemyiguana, on August 26 2014 - 08:16 AM, said:

if Defter ever gets back to me or Xacius, I would be happy to default Salty Suite to Bazaar Siege. This would eliminate the rage quit problem because.. who even ragequits games when they need a password to get in?
(Though it would be USC :( )

I don't know the background story.  Why do you need a response from Defter?  Do you have admin privileges to do it?

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Posted August 26 2014 - 08:27 AM

View PostBurnsHot, on August 26 2014 - 08:20 AM, said:

View Postticklemyiguana, on August 26 2014 - 08:16 AM, said:

if Defter ever gets back to me or Xacius, I would be happy to default Salty Suite to Bazaar Siege. This would eliminate the rage quit problem because.. who even ragequits games when they need a password to get in?
(Though it would be USC :( )

I don't know the background story.  Why do you need a response from Defter?  Do you have admin privileges to do it?
The server currently limits the number of players to 2 if the mode is switched to anything other than some form of deathmatch.
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Edited by ticklemyiguana, August 26 2014 - 08:28 AM.

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Posted August 26 2014 - 08:40 AM

Dear people who are crying about unbalance. Last summer, while playing with an amazing group of people almost daily, we play bazaar siege and we enjoy it almost as much as we enjoy origin siege. Based on the side one is playing at, we chose the mech.

We used the differences between the bases (or if you like to call it, disadvantage on on of them) as a nice challenge to ourselves to improve how we deal with each situation and it was pretty much fine. We never complained about being on the sentium side or whatever ... it was always cool.

And my request dead people who are unable to understand and interpret few simple english statements; this is not supposed to be for pubs who don't like Bazaar siege; this is supposed to be for people who used to love it and can deal with the differences between bases, and believe me, there's a good number of people who liked it a lot, I talked to people about it in game quite a few times.

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Posted August 26 2014 - 08:50 AM

View PostEliteShooter, on August 26 2014 - 08:40 AM, said:

Dear people who are crying about unbalance. Last summer, while playing with an amazing group of people almost daily, we play bazaar siege and we enjoy it almost as much as we enjoy origin siege. Based on the side one is playing at, we chose the mech.

We used the differences between the bases (or if you like to call it, disadvantage on on of them) as a nice challenge to ourselves to improve how we deal with each situation and it was pretty much fine. We never complained about being on the sentium side or whatever ... it was always cool.

And my request dead people who are unable to understand and interpret few simple english statements; this is not supposed to be for pubs who don't like Bazaar siege; this is supposed to be for people who used to love it and can deal with the differences between bases, and believe me, there's a good number of people who liked it a lot, I talked to people about it in game quite a few times.
Now, which side would you say has a bigger disadvantage? One side has high ground, but the other has better methods of getting to the AA and better angles.

Edited by ticklemyiguana, August 26 2014 - 08:50 AM.

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Posted August 26 2014 - 09:12 AM

View Postticklemyiguana, on August 26 2014 - 08:50 AM, said:

View PostEliteShooter, on August 26 2014 - 08:40 AM, said:

Dear people who are crying about unbalance. Last summer, while playing with an amazing group of people almost daily, we play bazaar siege and we enjoy it almost as much as we enjoy origin siege. Based on the side one is playing at, we chose the mech.

We used the differences between the bases (or if you like to call it, disadvantage on on of them) as a nice challenge to ourselves to improve how we deal with each situation and it was pretty much fine. We never complained about being on the sentium side or whatever ... it was always cool.

And my request dead people who are unable to understand and interpret few simple english statements; this is not supposed to be for pubs who don't like Bazaar siege; this is supposed to be for people who used to love it and can deal with the differences between bases, and believe me, there's a good number of people who liked it a lot, I talked to people about it in game quite a few times.
Now, which side would you say has a bigger disadvantage? One side has high ground, but the other has better methods of getting to the AA and better angles.

It's mainly people who think that the western side is disadvantageous because it's open to enemy fire and it could be a nightmare trying to get close to AA while for the other side, you can get very close to AA without the enemy team at AA able to shoot you. And that's to me very inaccurate; in the western side, you can go from the sides and keep the enemy busy in the middle, then surround them and make a strong push, and on the southern side it isn't also a stupidly easy think to control the AA, as the enemies could lock those 4 entrances and they can dominate the game too. I consider the chances 100% equal for both teams regardless of the side.

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Posted August 26 2014 - 09:37 AM

Acknowledging that one side of the map with 3 choke points is a distinct disadvantage (imbalance) to the team on that side isn't "crying." It is a recognition that "it is what it is."  If that were not the case then the map would never have been taken out of the Siege rotation.

Given two equally matched Siege teams I'd bet on the "low side" every match. Still, I like playing on that map regardless of which base I ended up in.
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