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Yay, COD on Steam Available today.
#1
Posted February 05 2014 - 07:53 PM
After playing about 7 matches, my level 22 pilot is retiring until armor comes up a bit, or the ttk is somehow brought back up to speed.
This game now actually does feel more like Call of Duty did and I feel like I have to be a crackhead to hang in there in fights, regardless of the mech I use.
I'm sorry, but I liked hunting down people, I LIKED getting into it with 2-3 mechs and actually having a chance of surviving in the outcome. Now? Just go, kill as much as possible until you die. Now, granted, I wasn't the best mech pilot, and many were more talented than I. However, the game so far is simply not enjoyable. There's a lot of space on the map, and I don't believe that it's just so you can go and get engaged in a 20 second frentetic fire fight and then run across the map to do it again.
I enjoyed having a plan. I enjoyed having to calculate moves. I enjoyed not knowing I was goign to have to respawn in 5 seconds or less.
I don't think the outcome of "leveling" the game was met. You wanted to take away the advantages a seasoned mech was capable of, so what was the purpose of the seasoned mech? You want level? Just give everyone a CT-Recruit and call it a day. There's no reason the matches should last over 10 minutes now. Just let them run until last man standing and be done with it... well, then again, that would cause the matches to last less than a minute, I'd suppose.
You didn't harm anything by going to Steam, you crushed it with orgami-paper-thin mech armor and taking away the fun that was in the game I've played for the last ~month.
I'll be checking for updates.
Till then...
#2
Posted February 05 2014 - 07:55 PM
#3
Posted February 05 2014 - 08:03 PM
As an aside, Hellfires are stupidly OP now. I dumped my paper berserker that I was having tons of fun in before and started using a Bruiser I bought a while ago and oh man. Those silly auto-hit rockets deal so much more damage proportional to hp now that it almost feels unfair. Just lock-on and enjoy the kills. If anything this has made ganking easier since I usually just need 1 hellfire burst to kill someone fighting a teammate. I don't even have to aim.
#4
Posted February 05 2014 - 08:05 PM
#5
Posted February 05 2014 - 08:21 PM
#6
Posted February 05 2014 - 08:29 PM
#7
Posted February 05 2014 - 08:30 PM
Feel free to revoke my code and refund my money. Now would be good. Either that, or revert this sorry excuse for a CoD clone to it's January glory, complete with player applied tech points. You can take this Feb. update trash and discard it at the local dump. We will pretend it never happened.
"Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results; that is the definition of insanity." - Albert Einstein
"If everyone is thinking alike, then someone isn't thinking." General George Patton
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle
"Only two things are infinite: The universe and stupidity... and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
#8
Posted February 05 2014 - 08:32 PM
#9
Posted February 05 2014 - 08:36 PM
 CounterlogicMan, on February 05 2014 - 08:32 PM, said:
CounterlogicMan, on February 05 2014 - 08:32 PM, said:
Pretty much this, as with the other major patches we'll see a decent amount of complaining on the forums from people who are unwilling to change their gameplay style and re-learn the whole metagame as it were. Nothing new at all.
 
#10
Posted February 05 2014 - 08:42 PM
 Beefsweat, on February 05 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:
Beefsweat, on February 05 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:
 CounterlogicMan, on February 05 2014 - 08:32 PM, said:
CounterlogicMan, on February 05 2014 - 08:32 PM, said:
Pretty much this, as with the other major patches we'll see a decent amount of complaining on the forums from people who are unwilling to change their gameplay style and re-learn the whole metagame as it were. Nothing new at all.
Read the number of threads and posts on this subject. You're in the minority thus far.
At some point, it's not about adjusting to a 'meta-game'. This isn't a TCG that releases a new booster type every 90 days. It's a video game. Nor should it be a TCG that has a constantly and rapidly yo-yo'ing 'MetaGame' that requires people to dump endless amounts of money and time into something they can never really develop any skill in because the Meta shifts so frequently. Your argument is flawed.
"Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results; that is the definition of insanity." - Albert Einstein
"If everyone is thinking alike, then someone isn't thinking." General George Patton
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle
"Only two things are infinite: The universe and stupidity... and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
#11
Posted February 05 2014 - 08:48 PM
 Beefsweat, on February 05 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:
Beefsweat, on February 05 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:
 CounterlogicMan, on February 05 2014 - 08:32 PM, said:
CounterlogicMan, on February 05 2014 - 08:32 PM, said:
Pretty much this, as with the other major patches we'll see a decent amount of complaining on the forums from people who are unwilling to change their gameplay style and re-learn the whole metagame as it were. Nothing new at all.
Eh, just making my opinion public and it seems others are too... Apparently armor levels have been down, up, down over time, so it seems Hawken is always changing/growing, whatever. I'm just making the statement that it seems, for reality's sake, that any metal mech should be able to take more than a clip of machine gun bullets or more than a round or two from a somewhat low-powered rocket.
My opinion isn't going to be the same as everyone else's, for sure, but I've played my pilot up to a respectable level in about a month's time and thought I'd found a game I liked. I'm one of those guys still hanging on waiting for SOMEONE to pick up the gauntlet and finsh Star Wars Battlefront 3... because 1 and 2 were great as you could coordinate as a team and calculate strategies while it was still a fps. Hawken showed up and gave me the same thing, and now it's changed into the CoD game that sits next to my Playstation, waiting for me to grab on my way out the door to sell at Gamestop.
I'm not trying or wanting to knock Hawken for those who like it and like the changes, I've been on board for a lot less time than most. I actually had started looking into MWO when a freind suggested Hawken, and we both freaking loved it. Now, as I finish this post, MWO is just finishing up being downloaded. I may like it, I may hate it. But I'm going to give it a try. I'll continue checking back to see what happens in the future with Hawken, but for now, it's not the game for me anymore. Glad I was only into it for about $25.. would've been more upset if I'd dumped a ton of $$ into it like some have, and then had it upended like this. The gameplay on the battlefield is quite different now than it was 24 hours ago, and that's a big change to make on however many people have been putting time, money and effort into it.
Thanks again, it was fun while it lasted.
#12
Posted February 05 2014 - 08:52 PM
 LordofNosgoth, on February 05 2014 - 08:42 PM, said:
LordofNosgoth, on February 05 2014 - 08:42 PM, said:
So a handful of kneejerk threads (mostly from those who regularly do not engage in discussion) = majority opinion of the entire population. I'm pretty sure that argument is flawed
 
					
					Edited by Beefsweat, February 05 2014 - 08:53 PM.
 
#13
Posted February 05 2014 - 08:57 PM
 Logicus, on February 05 2014 - 08:48 PM, said:
Logicus, on February 05 2014 - 08:48 PM, said:
 Beefsweat, on February 05 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:
Beefsweat, on February 05 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:
 CounterlogicMan, on February 05 2014 - 08:32 PM, said:
CounterlogicMan, on February 05 2014 - 08:32 PM, said:
Pretty much this, as with the other major patches we'll see a decent amount of complaining on the forums from people who are unwilling to change their gameplay style and re-learn the whole metagame as it were. Nothing new at all.
Eh, just making my opinion public and it seems others are too... Apparently armor levels have been down, up, down over time, so it seems Hawken is always changing/growing, whatever. I'm just making the statement that it seems, for reality's sake, that any metal mech should be able to take more than a clip of machine gun bullets or more than a round or two from a somewhat low-powered rocket.
 "If at first you do not succeed... reload"
 "If at first you do not succeed... reload"
#14
Posted February 05 2014 - 09:05 PM
 Bazookagofer, on February 05 2014 - 08:57 PM, said:
Bazookagofer, on February 05 2014 - 08:57 PM, said:
 Logicus, on February 05 2014 - 08:48 PM, said:
Logicus, on February 05 2014 - 08:48 PM, said:
 Beefsweat, on February 05 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:
Beefsweat, on February 05 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:
 CounterlogicMan, on February 05 2014 - 08:32 PM, said:
CounterlogicMan, on February 05 2014 - 08:32 PM, said:
Pretty much this, as with the other major patches we'll see a decent amount of complaining on the forums from people who are unwilling to change their gameplay style and re-learn the whole metagame as it were. Nothing new at all.
Eh, just making my opinion public and it seems others are too... Apparently armor levels have been down, up, down over time, so it seems Hawken is always changing/growing, whatever. I'm just making the statement that it seems, for reality's sake, that any metal mech should be able to take more than a clip of machine gun bullets or more than a round or two from a somewhat low-powered rocket.
Actually, it's the CT-Recruit that's made from spare parts, for the new pilots.
#15
Posted February 05 2014 - 09:19 PM
 Beefsweat, on February 05 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:
Beefsweat, on February 05 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:
 LordofNosgoth, on February 05 2014 - 08:42 PM, said:
LordofNosgoth, on February 05 2014 - 08:42 PM, said:
So a handful of kneejerk threads (mostly from those who regularly do not engage in discussion) = majority opinion of the entire population. I'm pretty sure that argument is flawed

People who "regularly engage in discussion" are generally either the really heavily invested top players, or those that wish they were. There's a well known congnitive bias toward defending something you've been invested in so as to rationalize your investment to yourself. So most people that are that into the this game are likely to defend it despite the issues. The fact that this patch annoyed enough otherwise "casual" players who mostly just play the game to finally come on here and post is telling, though niether side can really make a credible majority arguement so I don't see why even try.
#16
Posted February 05 2014 - 09:22 PM
#17
Posted February 05 2014 - 09:23 PM
#19
Posted February 05 2014 - 09:52 PM
 SSSS, on February 05 2014 - 09:28 PM, said:
SSSS, on February 05 2014 - 09:28 PM, said:
It's also a lot easier to blast the forums with anecdotal, kneejerk reactions and hyperbolic comparisons (seriously, the new build has been available for a few hours and isn't even content-complete) than to objectively & meaningfully evaluate something.
 
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