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#1 FoPPA

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Posted May 12 2013 - 05:24 AM

I need some ideas cause I tried nearly everything (new/old drivers, reinstall game,...). I got SLI GTX680, quad cpu 4 ghz, 4gb mem and Hawken is often running 20-30 fps with everything on low (usually when I shoot someone), phx, vsync disabled ofc ... aver would say 50-60 (while no action). My gfx load is aver at 25% on both cards, cpu 50% max and mem got max 75% loaded...I tried to turn off stuff in .ini e.g. telesl etc but no diff. This is the only game I ever had any issues = that's why it sux even more, in tf2 on maxed everything I get aver 250+, bf3 maxed 100+ fps. Honestly if I don't find a fix I will uninstall it, wont play a game on 20 fps with sli 680. Thanks in advance for any feedbacks...

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Posted May 12 2013 - 05:27 AM

put your video quality down and if it is turned on, turn off physx
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Posted May 12 2013 - 05:33 AM

It could be SLI which is causing the problems. Set the SLI profile for Hawken in the NVidia Control Panel to disabled. Things like SLI and Crossfire are very driver dependent so if it isn't correctly optimized then it will cause issues.
I run a single GTX 480 so can't comment on how well optimized Hawken/Nvidia is with two cards.

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Posted May 12 2013 - 05:36 AM

Vid settings are on low..., regarding SLI I forgot to mention that with one 680 I have similar low fps as with SLI...

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Posted May 12 2013 - 06:59 AM

i`m afraid to buy new videocard after all these topics, lol

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Posted May 12 2013 - 07:16 AM

i have gtx 660 and phenom 2 X4 965 with 3.4ghz and get 40-60 on med or high with phyx on, i have read that if you have 2 nividia cards to phyx. doing this will take the sli off basically witch is giving you problems it seems
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Posted May 12 2013 - 08:27 AM

I have two GTX 660 and I'm using SLI, I'm running the game on ultra but I do have Physx turned off due to frequent crashes that occurred when the game attempted to access certain files and it could not locate them. Aside from those issues the game runs at 50-60 FPS with vertical sync turned on.

My only suggestions would be to make sure your drivers are up to date.

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Posted May 12 2013 - 10:44 AM

I have PhysX off, with or without SLI no difference, I tried driver change, got newest now. it seems to me that this game somehow sux in using resources - gfx because even though I have 30 fps my gfx is on 25% load...anyone in this forum who can help? maybe config adjustments....

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Posted May 12 2013 - 11:10 AM

Something else is going on -- your setup should be able to handle this game with no problem. I'm running a single GTX 570 with a i7 950 @ 3.5 GHz and 12 GB RAM (bur RAM shouldn't make a big difference), and I get 45-60 fps. That's with all graphics maxed except physx is 'on' (not high), and I disable vsynch, motion blur and grain.

Make sure you set the power management mode to 'prefer maximum performance' in the manage 3d settings | program settings tab of the nvidia control panel -- sounds like your card is not ramping up the way it should. If you don't have a profile for Hawken in that tab, add one by pointing to the hawkengame-win32-shipping.exe.

Try this, see if it makes a difference! My card runs at full bore when I play, so I'm guessing that this is the cause of your issue.

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Posted May 12 2013 - 11:18 AM

I tried to get better frame rate, but dspite lowering the graphics, not much gain, so setting were back at max. the difference was negletable ,5 to 10 fps. framerate was about 45-50,but it didn't feel like that.
something is a bit off.

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Posted May 12 2013 - 11:19 AM

yeah i think theres something else as well..
im on a laptop which has gtx460m, i7 2.0ghz, 8 gb ram and im having about 100 fps while theres no action ingame. but it stutters alot when theres alot fire going on, and fps goes down to 15-20 for a few seconds.

although this game still needs to be optimized alot, your rig should be able to handle it better still.

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Posted May 12 2013 - 11:41 AM

I tried already 'prefer maximum performance' via control panel as global profile but also used NVidia inspect and changed it for hawken profile to prefer max perf, no difference :( but thanks for the ideas...honestly on old UT3 engine with 2xGTX 680 I should have on low 200+ fps...minimum not 20...

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Posted May 12 2013 - 11:50 AM

View PostFoPPA, on May 12 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:

I tried already 'prefer maximum performance' via control panel as global profile but also used NVidia inspect and changed it for hawken profile to prefer max perf, no difference :( but thanks for the ideas...honestly on old UT3 engine with 2xGTX 680 I should have on low 200+ fps...minimum not 20...

try removing your gpu drivers completely by using driversweeper, and reinstall them. this has helped me when my pc suddenly has suddenly started to not being able to handle the game, it was just the drivers somehow messed up. but please search the web for "removing drivers completely" and do the steps carefully or you might end up with wasting about an hour and not gaining any performance.

the critical point there is to have the drivers uninstalled successfully, that the windows should be recognising your card as "generic graphics card" or something like that at some point. then you can be sure that the drivers are COMPLETELY uninstalled, and its ready to be re-installed.

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Posted May 12 2013 - 02:24 PM

its a bug with sli. i deleted all my bookmarks .. i ll pm you if i find it again. *you must change some settings in bios* and it was topic about sh*tty ps2 game.
btw. this works too:
http://www.overclock...only-works-well
we got ~25 fps for this.

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Posted May 12 2013 - 04:18 PM

You have a good GPU setup, I suspect it's a bug with SLI.

I reccommend you set one of your GPU's as a Physx only GPU and use the other one to run everything else. You'll get 60+FPS easy that way...

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Posted May 13 2013 - 12:26 AM

View Postraum, on May 12 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

yeah i think theres something else as well..
im on a laptop which has gtx460m, i7 2.0ghz, 8 gb ram and im having about 100 fps while theres no action ingame. but it stutters alot when theres alot fire going on, and fps goes down to 15-20 for a few seconds.

although this game still needs to be optimized alot, your rig should be able to handle it better still.

yea i get the chop now too....

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Posted May 13 2013 - 02:46 AM

I'm running twin EVGA GTX 550 ti's, no problems at all with SLI.  

This is what I set on the Nvidia control panel.
https://community.pl...en/#entry216188


This is what I would do if I were you.
I'd exit Hawken,
goto

My Documents/My Games/Hawken/HawkenGame/Config

rename the current config directory to config1, and then restart hawken and select and apply your video settings, then exit hawken again.

Then go back to the new config directory and open Hawkenengine.ini and set
MaxParticleResize=10
MaxParticleVertexMemory=1000

Make sure you set both sets of them as there are duplicates a bit further down.

Try that and see if you see any better performance.
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Posted May 13 2013 - 03:34 AM

Wow that's weird - I have a Phenom x6 @ 3.2ghz and a single gtx 670 o/clocked - On medium settings @ 1980 x 1080. My games running at 120fps, dropping to 60 fps in a heavy fight. Physx turned off (nice effects, but they distract me).
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Posted May 13 2013 - 03:44 AM

First of all, do all maintenance on your PC = Aka, Registry Defrag, HDD Defrag etc. (does wonders sometimes)
Second, try to run just on 1 GPU and not on SLI. ( a 680 can handle the game on ultra with PhysX off) also you will see if its a SLI bug or not.

I play on a Intel Core 2 Duo 3,4 GHz (clock), 8GB DDR3 Ram, and a 550Ti Overclocked Windforce Edition
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Posted May 13 2013 - 04:02 AM

Hi there Community,

im speaking for all of our members and we noticed a huge Drop in Frames since the First Content Patch. Allot of High-End PCs that have an AMD/Intel i7 + ATI/GTX Cards have a huge Problem. We tryed to come up with a solution with no major success!

Instead of haveing a better gameplay it just does not come to were it was before the Patches.

We are still working on a solution to bypass this known issue but needs major research with different system Setups!

As soon as we figure something out we will contact HWK/MTR Staff ASAP. ;)

Best regards

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I gona test this out on my rig with the specs of:

CPU: Intel i7 2600K
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HDD: Samsung Raid 24/7 750GB
PSU: Corsair HX1000W

OS: Windows 8 Pro 64bit

------------ I have notified our members to write down thyre System Specs on our forums to send as much feedback as we can to HWK/MTR - To have better Performance on all of our rigs. :D

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