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Poll: VOIP (43 member(s) have cast votes)

Is the Hawken player base suffering due to the lack of VOIP?

  1. Yes (36 votes [83.72%])

    Percentage of vote: 83.72%

  2. No (7 votes [16.28%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.28%

Do you Use VOIP in games when available?

  1. Yes (33 votes [76.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 76.74%

  2. No (5 votes [11.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.63%

  3. I use text communication only (3 votes [6.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.98%

  4. I use alternatives only like commo roses or spotlight buttons to communicate only. (2 votes [4.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.65%

Is VOIP so important to your game play that you regularily use 3rd party software like Teamspeak/Mumble/Ventrillo/etc... regularily in gaming especially when none is available?

  1. Yes (29 votes [67.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 67.44%

  2. No (13 votes [30.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.23%

  3. I don't communicate to others. (1 votes [2.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.33%

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#1 Spliff_Craven

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Posted February 17 2014 - 09:43 PM

I feel VOIP is an integral feature of an online FPS game.

Hawken needs to have this reinstated ASAP to save the player base.

Do you agree? State your case the floor is now open.

Edited by Spliff_Craven, February 17 2014 - 09:44 PM.


#2 EliteShooter

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Posted February 17 2014 - 10:07 PM

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Posted February 17 2014 - 10:11 PM

Occasionally I run into people who use voice chat in the game, but I don't know what the deal is with VOIP anymore.

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Posted February 17 2014 - 10:16 PM

Voip is spotty really, works every now and then, but never consistently. Needs to be fixed.

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Posted February 17 2014 - 11:07 PM

I try to use in-game whenever possible but it's not often I come across even half a team with mics.
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Posted February 17 2014 - 11:25 PM

We are aware of the issues with VOIP but there is no simple or quick fix for it unfortunately. More than likely it will be faster to gut and replace it with an alternative than fix. All of our engineering resources have been on getting the Steam patch out but rest assured, VOIP is a high priority fix for us. Thanks.

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Posted February 17 2014 - 11:31 PM

3 x yes

That's the very best feature what I liked in closed beta (except trolls, but there is a mute option). Very important.

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Posted February 18 2014 - 12:05 AM

I do believe Teamspeak or Steam/Valve could donate some resources and get VOIP up and running.

It is infuriating not being able to communicate for the last 6 months in game.

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Posted February 18 2014 - 04:30 AM

View Post[HWK]HUGHES, on February 17 2014 - 11:25 PM, said:

We are aware of the issues with VOIP but there is no simple or quick fix for it unfortunately. More than likely it will be faster to gut and replace it with an alternative than fix. All of our engineering resources have been on getting the Steam patch out but rest assured, VOIP is a high priority fix for us. Thanks.
I'm not sure what happened between pre-ascension and ascension, but the VOIP system that was in use pre worked pretty darn well, it was one of the best ones I've ever used that was integrated into a game.

Whatever changed, I'd move it back if at all possible.  :-)

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Posted February 18 2014 - 05:31 AM

View PostSpliff_Craven, on February 17 2014 - 09:43 PM, said:

Hawken needs to have this reinstated ASAP to save the player base.

Do you agree? State your case the floor is now open.

I agree that VOIP is an important feature to encourage teamplay in pub play. However, I don't think that the Hawken player base is in need to be saved. Yes, the VOIP feature is important but most public players that I played with don't even want to use if they have the necessary equipment. So, I don't think that these player base is suffering from the lack of VOIP.

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Posted February 18 2014 - 06:40 AM

View PostReEvolve, on February 18 2014 - 05:31 AM, said:

Yes, the VOIP feature is important but most players don't even want to use if they have the necessary equipment.

ReEvolve, considering the polls vote count above, how did you arrive at the opinion that "most players" don't want to use it?

I keep reading since the meta change how critical working as a team is now, how important it is to coordinate as a team, etc. So if you can't communicate with your team mates, how do you coordinate anything?  Typing in chat while you're getting shot at?  You might as well call Western Union and communicate by telegram.

Disclaimer; The following statement is my personal opinion only and is not to be construed or interpreted as being presented as absolute fact or as being handed down from on-high by any supernatural or natural being, entity, or deity.  ;)

VOIP currently isn't used much because it isn't working properly.  Get the built-in version working right in every server and you'll see the player base start using it a lot more.
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Posted February 18 2014 - 06:56 AM

View PostMolasses_Jack, on February 18 2014 - 06:40 AM, said:

ReEvolve, considering the polls vote count above, how did you arrive at the opinion that "most players" don't want to use it?

Hm, I was talking about the players of the pub matches that I played in up until now. I'm sorry, I should have chosen my words more carefully. Anyway, based on my experience (when the VOIP was actually working) my teammates heard me but weren't fond of using VOIP themselves.

View PostMolasses_Jack, on February 18 2014 - 06:40 AM, said:

I keep reading since the meta change how critical working as a team is now, how important it is to coordinate as a team, etc. So if you can't communicate with your team mates, how do you coordinate anything?

Some teams have a natural team dynamic, some teams can actually work well together using the "help" and "spotted" buttons and unfortunately there are also some teams don't even care about teamplay... :rolleyes:

View PostMolasses_Jack, on February 18 2014 - 06:40 AM, said:

You might as well call Western Union and communicate by telegram.

Will report back once I've tried. I hope they won't charge me for installing all those telegraph cables up to my flat in Germany... :P

View PostMolasses_Jack, on February 18 2014 - 06:40 AM, said:

VOIP currently isn't used much because it isn't working properly.  Get the built-in version working right in every server and you'll see the player base start using it a lot more.

Maybe you're right. Maybe not. Only time will tell.

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Posted February 18 2014 - 09:14 AM

ReEvolve, other than the question I asked I wasn't aiming my comments at you, my friend. :(   I was just commenting in general to the group (and the devs, too).

The first few round I played after joining the open beta people were using the voip to call for help, or get team mates to cover choke points, etc.  I thought it was cool as hell, added to the game experience, and was disappointed when it quit working reliably at some point.

If it does get fixed will it become a valuable element of gameplay?  I don't know.   But I hope it does get fixed so we can find out. :)
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Posted February 18 2014 - 12:07 PM

View PostReEvolve, on February 18 2014 - 06:56 AM, said:

Hm, I was talking about the players of the pub matches that I played in up until now. I'm sorry, I should have chosen my words more carefully. Anyway, based on my experience (when the VOIP was actually working) my teammates heard me but weren't fond of using VOIP themselves.

I respect your opinion here ReEvolve. In my view, when Voice Chat was working pre-Ascension it was used in a majority of the games I personally played. Even if most of the team never spoke, having one person coordinate information and instructions to a bunch of random people typically made for a better game.

I agree that some teams have a natural dynamic - in fact I played a few matches last night that were like this and were very close and very fun. Hawken is a fast paced (even faster after the armor drop), team/squad based shooter and in my opinion needs equally fast communication abilities. I know people who hate playing in public matches because there is no coordination ability.


View Postbacon_avenger, on February 18 2014 - 04:30 AM, said:

I'm not sure what happened between pre-ascension and ascension, but the VOIP system that was in use pre worked pretty darn well, it was one of the best ones I've ever used that was integrated into a game.

Whatever changed, I'd move it back if at all possible.  :-)

I completely agree with Bacon Avenger that Hawken had one of the best and seamless voice systems around. It was a huge draw for me and certainly others as well.


Lastly, there is also a Voice Chat post I started in the general forums where we are discussing the same issue: https://community.pl...blem-right-now/

Thanks for everyone's input. Please feel free to keep constructively chiming in.
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Posted February 18 2014 - 10:11 PM

My fear is if VOIP isn't fixed pronto; Hawken will have made a name for itself as a BAD GAME. Especially in lieu of the steam release.
People will not want to play a game with a bad reputation that has critical points like VOIP missing or no adequately and promptly addressed.

If it appears that critical points are ignored players will go to other games and not come back.
They will be playing with their friends elsewhere.

Please make working VOIP for the next patch!

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Posted June 19 2014 - 09:22 PM

it's pretty clear VOIP is a huge requirement of the Hawken playerbase.

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Posted June 19 2014 - 10:55 PM

Needs like blood

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Posted June 20 2014 - 01:02 AM

Yea, it makes life a lot easier to not have to type for minutes to get teammates to do something.

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Posted June 21 2014 - 03:14 PM

Like AA get it the fuzzy aa

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Posted June 21 2014 - 03:54 PM

I approve of this necro.

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