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#1 fodet

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Posted January 28 2014 - 07:02 PM

Hi..

i am new here. i downloaded the game and started playing .. but i discovered that the game using dx9 32
and the physX was off . when i compared my graphic with the videos . big difference !!

here my sitting
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my card : Gtx 760
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see :
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help :)  thanks ( sorry for bad english  )

#2 SS396

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Posted January 28 2014 - 07:35 PM

Not really sure what you are trying to say.

The extra PhysX effects are only for bubble shields, repair charges, EU stations, and death orbs, perhaps you need to look at those and see if you are getting the extra effects.  If you are wanting more FPS, you need to decrease your settings some.

I for one recommend that you enable borderless window and deactivate full screen.
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#3 fodet

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Posted January 28 2014 - 08:27 PM

thanks for fast replying .

what i am trying to say :

why i cant see any of these effects while playing ?
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is it normal that the game dx9 32 ?

i dont have problems with the frame rate it is about 120  . but i noticed that there is no change in frame rate when i turn physx on or off . why ?

why you recommend borderless window ?

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Posted January 28 2014 - 10:09 PM

No problem.

Oh, yeah, I did forget about the extra particles from footsteps and weapons intercepting the ground.  Let me get back to you in a bit on that.


Yes its normal, there is only a DirectX 9 version, and only a 32 bit client.  There have been no mentions of anything greater DirectX wise or a 64 bit client.  We can only hope those are plans for a 1.0 release.

Dunno, about the framerate, but if you are not getting all the particles you should be, that could be a cause, or your graphics card is just barely being taxed and sitting mostly idle even when all the settings are turned up to max.  shrug.

Borderless seems to have a better FPS overall, and for one thing if you ALT-TAB out and back into Hawken, with borderless on there is no FPS drop for a few seconds when the task becomes the front most window.  Its just one of those things that people have figured out on the forums, and tell everyone to set.

Back in a few after some PhysX tests.
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Posted January 28 2014 - 10:36 PM

This might be dumb question, but are you restarting the game whenever you turn physx on or off? It requires a restart to enable or disable the effects.
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Posted January 28 2014 - 10:38 PM

So yeah, you should be getting some extra particles from weapons and footsteps when you enable PhysX.  

I have a feeling a variable didn't get set properly in the ini files, but its just a hunch.

So first lets try to just reset the ini to default, and then test and see what happens, and if theres no change, then we'll compare some values.

First, exit Hawken completely.

Open explorer and go to:

C:Users<USERNAME>DocumentsMy GamesHawkenHawkenGameConfig

delete HawkenEngine.ini

then restart Hawken, and enter an offline deathmatch or something to test.

You might have to turn on PhysX again.

If you still are not seeing those extra particles, open HawkenEngine.ini in a text editor and scroll down to

PhysXLevel=2
DemoRecordingDevice=Engine.DemoRecDriver
bPauseOnLossOfFocus=FALSE
MaxFluidNumVerts=1048576
FluidSimulationTimeLimit=30.0
MaxParticleResize=512 ;TJ - Shouldn't be -1 if we had particles properly optimized. I'm forcing this to -1 if PhysX>0
MaxParticleResizeWarn=10240
bCheckParticleRenderSize=false ; Otherwise Nvidia build spams warnings
MaxParticleVertexMemory=131972 ; TJ - Forcing this to 131972 if PhysX > 0. We could probably lower it here

and compare those values with what you have.  Those should be the defaults

Also, what Nvidia driver are you running? Latest or beta?  332.21?

What version of PhysX is installed too?
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#7 fodet

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Posted January 28 2014 - 10:58 PM

here what i did :

1- i deleted the ini file
2- i started the game and put physx high ( only nvidia cards )
3- i closed the game and restarted it
4- i tried but no change ( no effects no particles no thing )

here what i found in the ini file :

PhysXLevel=2
DemoRecordingDevice=Engine.DemoRecDriver
bPauseOnLossOfFocus=FALSE
MaxFluidNumVerts=1048576
FluidSimulationTimeLimit=30.0
MaxParticleResize=512 ;TJ - Shouldn't be -1 if we had particles properly optimized. I'm forcing this to -1 if PhysX>0
MaxParticleResizeWarn=10240
bCheckParticleRenderSize=False
MaxParticleVertexMemory=131972 ; TJ - Forcing this to 131972 if PhysX > 0. We could probably lower it here

the driver i am using is :

graphic driver : 332.21 whq
physX driver: 9.13.1220


thanks :)

Edited by fodet, January 28 2014 - 11:00 PM.


#8 fodet

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Posted January 28 2014 - 11:06 PM

View PostBeefsweat, on January 28 2014 - 10:36 PM, said:

This might be dumb question, but are you restarting the game whenever you turn physx on or off? It requires a restart to enable or disable the effects.

o.c i did but no change :)

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Posted January 28 2014 - 11:08 PM

Well, crud.

When did you very first install Hawken?  Recently?


I don't know if they modified something in the latest patch in regards to the defaults, but I'm fairly certain its got to be another setting in that ini file.

Go ahead and copy and paste the entire HawkenEngine.ini file in a post, but use the spoiler tag so the post won't be a mile long, and I'll diff your file with mine and see if I can spot a reason why its not working for you.

How you use the spoiler tag is get what you want in the clipboard, then hit the 3rd button from the left on the reply window, it looks like a green line in a window, and scroll down to spoiler.  Then paste whats in the clipboard.

Or you could use pastebin or something.
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#10 fodet

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Posted January 28 2014 - 11:17 PM

View PostSS396, on January 28 2014 - 11:08 PM, said:

Well, crud.

When did you very first install Hawken?  Recently?


I don't know if they modified something in the latest patch in regards to the defaults, but I'm fairly certain its got to be another setting in that ini file.

Go ahead and copy and paste the entire HawkenEngine.ini file in a post, but use the spoiler tag so the post won't be a mile long, and I'll diff your file with mine and see if I can spot a reason why its not working for you.

How you use the spoiler tag is get what you want in the clipboard, then hit the 3rd button from the left on the reply window, it looks like a green line in a window, and scroll down to spoiler.  Then paste whats in the clipboard.

Or you could use pastebin or something.

i installed the game yesterday .. but i noticed that changes are not saved in the ini file . because i changed the physx level to 3 and when i came to see it again i found it 2 not 3 .

actully i didnot understand all this (but use the spoiler tag so the post won't be a mile long, and I'll diff your file with mine and see if I can spot a reason why its not working for you.

How you use the spoiler tag is get what you want in the clipboard, then hit the 3rd button from the left on the reply window, it looks like a green line in a window, and scroll down to spoiler.  Then paste whats in the clipboard.

Or you could use pastebin or something.  )

Edited by fodet, January 28 2014 - 11:18 PM.


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Posted January 28 2014 - 11:19 PM

Try uninstalling PhysX 1220 and installing this version and test.

http://www.nvidia.co...725-driver.html

I wonder if its cause that 1220 is only a few days old.
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#12 fodet

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Posted January 28 2014 - 11:20 PM

View PostSS396, on January 28 2014 - 11:19 PM, said:

Try uninstalling PhysX 1220 and installing this version and test.

http://www.nvidia.co...725-driver.html

I wonder if its cause that 1220 is only a few days old.

ok . one moment

#13 fodet

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Posted January 28 2014 - 11:26 PM

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View PostSS396, on January 28 2014 - 11:19 PM, said:

Try uninstalling PhysX 1220 and installing this version and test.

http://www.nvidia.co...725-driver.html

I wonder if its cause that 1220 is only a few days old.

i did but still no change :(

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Posted January 28 2014 - 11:32 PM

That is fine, I understand english isn't your native language.  We will manage.

PhysX settings in the ini files are 0=off, 1= low, 2=high.  There are no other options, so 3 doesn't work, its cause it starts counting at zero.  ;)

Those instructions I gave you, were a shortcut on how to create a spoiler tag.

you want to copy the entire hawkenengine.ini text into the clipboard (ctrl+C), and then return to this thread to do a reply.

In the first line of the toolbar for the inline text editor on the forums, it should be a lightswtich icon which is "toggle editing mode", then an eraser which is "remove format" then the 3rd button is "special BBCode".

Open Special BBCode and choose spoiler in the drop down list.

Then paste the text.


It'll do something like this

Now go ahead and click on the spoiler button
Spoiler

:lol:

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#15 fodet

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Posted January 28 2014 - 11:41 PM

Spoiler

that is it .

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Posted January 28 2014 - 11:55 PM

k, while I'm diffing this I have another idea.

Open HawkenCompat.ini

Scroll down to:

0x1188=3,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690


add the following line before the one above it

0x1187=3,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760

So it should look like this now.

0x1185=2,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
0x1187=3,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760
0x1188=3,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690

and lets see if that causes any change.
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#17 fodet

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Posted January 29 2014 - 12:07 AM

View PostSS396, on January 28 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:

k, while I'm diffing this I have another idea.

Open HawkenCompat.ini

Scroll down to:

0x1188=3,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690


add the following line before the one above it

0x1187=3,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760

So it should look like this now.

0x1185=2,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
0x1187=3,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760
0x1188=3,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690

and lets see if that causes any change.

i did it so it became

0x1180=3,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680
0x1183=2,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti
0x1185=2,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
0x1187=3,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760
0x1188=3,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690
0x1189=3,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670

but still no change :mellow:

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Posted January 29 2014 - 12:11 AM

should i add this to BackupDefaultCompat ini  ?

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Posted January 29 2014 - 12:26 AM

Thats not necessary, as thats for retaining your settings when theres a new patch that needs to overwrite your ini files.

Open your hawkenengine.ini

and search for that stray
PhysXLevel=0

in your settings and change it to 2.

If that doesn't fix it, then it seems you have found some sort of bug.  I would open a support ticket here https://playhawken.zendesk.com/ and maybe they will know something I don't, and if worse comes to worse, they can escalate it to a dev to help you identiy the problem for everyone.

I see nothing out of the ordinary in your ini files that you posted, they match mine, so I really don't have any other ideas.

Good luck, and sorry.
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#20 fodet

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Posted January 29 2014 - 12:38 AM

View PostSS396, on January 29 2014 - 12:26 AM, said:

Thats not necessary, as thats for retaining your settings when theres a new patch that needs to overwrite your ini files.

Open your hawkenengine.ini

and search for that stray
PhysXLevel=0

in your settings and change it to 2.

If that doesn't fix it, then it seems you have found some sort of bug.  I would open a support ticket here https://playhawken.zendesk.com/ and maybe they will know something I don't, and if worse comes to worse, they can escalate it to a dev to help you identiy the problem for everyone.

I see nothing out of the ordinary in your ini files that you posted, they match mine, so I really don't have any other ideas.

Good luck, and sorry.

i found it and it was 2 . i think i am going to open that support ticket . thank you for your time , thank you for your effort :)

Edited by fodet, January 29 2014 - 12:38 AM.





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