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#1 String

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Posted November 27 2012 - 10:26 AM

Why wait when you could just pull up the server browser and join a game?

#2 Karaipantsu

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Posted November 27 2012 - 10:33 AM

Sigh, these threads really need to stop.  Match making is here to stay, and there WILL be a server browser in the game.  This Beta event is testing the matchmaking system, so read the Beta notes, and then go give the Devs their data.

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Posted November 27 2012 - 10:44 AM

Yeah, I know this is a just test. I'm asking why game devs always want to have a matchmaker. It seems pointless.

Edited by String, November 27 2012 - 10:46 AM.


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Posted November 27 2012 - 10:54 AM

View PostString, on November 27 2012 - 10:44 AM, said:

Yeah, I know this is a just test. I'm asking why game devs always want to have a matchmaker. It seems pointless.
Because it's good for casual players to be able to just pop into a match with people of their skill level.

[HWK]HUGHES, on July 03 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

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Posted November 27 2012 - 11:04 AM

I'm tired of talking about matchmaking...
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#6 String

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Posted November 27 2012 - 11:27 AM

View PostAsianJoyKiller, on November 27 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:

View PostString, on November 27 2012 - 10:44 AM, said:

Yeah, I know this is a just test. I'm asking why game devs always want to have a matchmaker. It seems pointless.
Because it's good for casual players to be able to just pop into a match with people of their skill level.

I guess I understand that, but I can't shake the feeling that its just unnecessary hand holding. The stomping problems will go away if the game becomes popular enough to attract a large player base. If it doesn't, then the matchmaker won't be able to consistently set up fair games anyway.

Edited by String, November 27 2012 - 11:27 AM.


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Posted November 27 2012 - 11:54 AM

I honestly think it's a good idea, as long as it doesn't take too long to join a game, if you're in a "lower level"

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Posted November 27 2012 - 12:33 PM

View PostString, on November 27 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

I guess I understand that, but I can't shake the feeling that its just unnecessary hand holding.
It's not about hand holding or coddling the weak. It's about being able to quickly get a match with people of your general skill level so the match will be balanced and you can have fun. All this, without having to take the time to find a server that fits you.

[HWK]HUGHES, on July 03 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

AJK is right

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#9 Nephtaline

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Posted November 27 2012 - 01:23 PM

^ This.
Obviously OP you never played a game and couldn't do fuzzy bunny against your ennemies because they had so much experience, and you, didn't.
It's really frustrating.

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Posted November 27 2012 - 02:42 PM

View PostAsianJoyKiller, on November 27 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

View PostString, on November 27 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

I guess I understand that, but I can't shake the feeling that its just unnecessary hand holding.
It's not about hand holding or coddling the weak. It's about being able to quickly get a match with people of your general skill level so the match will be balanced and you can have fun. All this, without having to take the time to find a server that fits you.

this...

some of us experienced gamers want to play against each other because it will be a good game. The match making system will work for the advance players just as much as the new players. We understand the importance of playing against those of equal or higher skill and more than likely won't jump boat on each other. Yeah it's fun stomping some newbies from time to time.. but the best games have always been ones where i wasn't 28-1-23... those are just meh filler until a good game.

Edited by Akrium, November 27 2012 - 02:43 PM.


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Posted November 27 2012 - 02:48 PM

Hmm, why not just add an "Average Mech Level" column in the server browser?
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Posted November 27 2012 - 02:59 PM

View Postz121231211, on November 27 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

Hmm, why not just add an "Average Mech Level" column in the server browser?
Because you could spend a bajillion hours into a single Lvl. 20 mech and have eight Lvl. 1 mechs, and that makes your average level 3.

See the flaw?

[HWK]HUGHES, on July 03 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

AJK is right

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Posted November 27 2012 - 03:10 PM

He means the average of all the players on the server, I think. Only the mech they are currently playing with.

Playing with people on a higher or lower skill level is inevitable even with a match maker. If I'm not having fun in one server its not a hard task to just find a different server.'

If you favorite community servers that you like then it becomes even easier to find a good match in the server browser than in a matchmaker.

Edited by String, November 27 2012 - 06:24 PM.


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Posted November 27 2012 - 05:50 PM

Matchmaking is fine (not in this game yet) but now I spend more time trying to get a decent game then i actualy play.

If ur in a close and even 2 vs 2 or 3 vs 3 game you can bet the server adds another player and its screwed. Or if ur playing a game and ur down by 40 kills, the server adds another player to the winning team.

Its getting more and more frustrating to play and have fun atm. Alpha 2 and previous betas was WAY better and much more fun then this.

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Posted November 28 2012 - 04:36 AM

As someone said before, i'm not having fun when i go 10-1
Matchmaking will surely help, i prefer challenge and going 6-4 or something. You get the idea.

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Posted November 28 2012 - 06:37 AM

Server browser, matchmaker, whatever. I just want to play a little bit. Just spend 30min looking for players in all server zones. Nothing! Is something wrong with the system or there is no player today? Does the matchmaking system things I'm too good for everybody else? :P Well, it is very dumb then lol

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Posted November 28 2012 - 06:40 AM

View PostTibster, on November 27 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

Its getting more and more frustrating to play and have fun atm. Alpha 2 and previous betas was WAY better and much more fun then this.

You're a beta tester.  You're not here to have "fun".  That's secondary.  Your job is to break the game and/or provide the developers with data.  When the game is live and you're paying for it and it's STILL broken, then you can complain about not having fun.

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Posted November 28 2012 - 09:56 AM

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When the game is live and you're paying for it and it's STILL broken, then you can complain about not having fun.

I thought it would be F2P. Did a get it wrong? If yes, well, it's definitely worth some money. The game is awesome! I was wondering if someday I'll be able to parachute in a COD server with one of these mechs and harvest every sorryass foot soldier over there :P

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Posted November 28 2012 - 10:16 AM

View PostAaylaSECURA, on November 28 2012 - 09:56 AM, said:

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When the game is live and you're paying for it and it's STILL broken, then you can complain about not having fun.

I thought it would be F2P. Did a get it wrong? If yes, well, it's definitely worth some money. The game is awesome! I was wondering if someday I'll be able to parachute in a COD server with one of these mechs and harvest every sorryass foot soldier over there :P
No. It's still f2p. I think he was trying to say if you're not a paying customer you have no right to complain. Which isn't true.
Even if you're a f2p player, once the game goes live, you have the right to complain about something you think is a problem.
You just better be able to back your complaint with evidence. On the flip side, being a paid player doesn't absolve you from providing proof that your complaint has basis.

[HWK]HUGHES, on July 03 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

AJK is right

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Posted November 28 2012 - 10:19 AM

So... does the match making actually match people based on skill? Because a lot of people change teams mid game to balance it out... y'know... because the matchmaking isn't terribly good at its job. So if there was some hidden stats, this would mess with it. Also people have started inviting and joining games on their friendlist to get around the stupid matchmaking that puts you in empty servers when there are perfectly good 10/12 player servers.

View Post[HWK]HUGHES, on October 23 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:

Development happens.


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