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#1 SkyeBeats

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Posted December 03 2013 - 05:17 PM

So yeah, anyone else getting low framerates on Winter Eco?

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Posted December 03 2013 - 05:19 PM

Me too

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Posted December 03 2013 - 05:27 PM

Same.

Can we please get at least one server per region with normal last eco in addition to the last eco winter? :unsure:

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Posted December 03 2013 - 05:38 PM

View PostKomodo_Saurian, on December 03 2013 - 05:27 PM, said:

Same.

Can we please get at least one server per region with normal last eco in addition to the last eco winter? :unsure:

How about just remove Last Eco until it's optimized?  I don't even get decent frames on normal Eco, and the map is horribly designed from a functional standpoint.

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Posted December 03 2013 - 06:06 PM

You mean the Hellfire festival might be cancelled!

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Posted December 03 2013 - 06:07 PM

I'm getting huge FPS drops as soon as combat starts on Snow Eco... Thought it could have something to do with the snow particles that appear when you shoot into the snow, but testing didn't confirm this - then again one mech shooting at the snow perhaps isn't enough :P

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Posted December 03 2013 - 06:13 PM

Winter Eco performs like ass. Last Eco gives me a solid fps normally and never really dips to a point where my performance is impacted or even to a point where I notice. With Winter Eco though I can't do squat unless I'm at the edge of the map and not really engaging anyone.

Not sure how this made it past QA but something needs to be done because this is awful. Hawken has never given me issues before but this map for some reason runs like poo.

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Posted December 03 2013 - 06:32 PM

For the dissenting side: I actually have less performance problems on winter eco than regular eco. Though I do understand that this map gives different performance results for just about everyone.

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Posted December 03 2013 - 06:36 PM

Performance drops were not something that we encountered during development or testing but we're investigating.

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Posted December 03 2013 - 06:36 PM

I'm in the KejiGoto camp, I can play regular Eco all day without much of a hitch at all... playing on snow eco though kicked my butt and was pretty choppy at times.

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Posted December 03 2013 - 07:05 PM

Will test tommorow I run low gfx settings.
U tried tweaking settings and testing to determine a possible cause?  I.E try with physX on and off. AA if you use it.. etc.. may be able to narrow it down.

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Posted December 03 2013 - 07:18 PM

Same here. Instead of 60-120 it's 30-40.

It seems lower in general after the patch.

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Posted December 03 2013 - 07:31 PM

Same here.  Used to get a solid 50-60 FPS with my rig on normal Eco, but dropped down to an unsightly 15-20 FPS with Winter Eco. Had to drop all my settings to low to barely squeak in 40 FPS.

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Posted December 04 2013 - 05:58 PM

Hello everyone, performance guy here.  Any additional info you can provide would be a huge help to identifying and fixing this issue.  

Things that would be helpful:
* computer specs, (cpu, mem, gpu)
* what level of detail do you play at?
* what kind of slow down are you seeing?  consistent or inconsistent?  If it is a sudden drop, does it happen after a certain event?  
* what game mode are you experiencing issues with?

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Posted December 04 2013 - 06:15 PM

View Post[HWK]SUPPPORT_ARE_TROOPS!, on December 04 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

Hello everyone, performance guy here.  Any additional info you can provide would be a huge help to identifying and fixing this issue.  

Things that would be helpful:
* computer specs, (cpu, mem, gpu)
* what level of detail do you play at?
* what kind of slow down are you seeing?  consistent or inconsistent?  If it is a sudden drop, does it happen after a certain event?  
* what game mode are you experiencing issues with?

CPU: Intel Core i3 2120 @ 3.3 GHz
RAM: XMS3 DDR3, 4 GB @ 1333 MHz
GPU: 1 GB GTX 550 Ti

I normally play with Ultra textures, high graphics with PhysX turned off and manage 50-60 FPS.

I see periodic FPS drops that are quite sudden. I'd be walking around (not boosting, or shooting or flying or any of that, just walking) and my FPS displays at a 50-60 FPS (with the "stat fps" f5 command), what I normally get with my aforementioned settings.  Then it periodically, consistently, and suddenly drops down to about 15-20 FPS for a good 1-2 seconds, then goes right back up to my normal 50 FPS. This cycles about every 5-6 seconds.  I was able to remedy the problem by setting all my graphics settings (textures + graphics) down to low, and even then, I was barely managing 40 FPS, as it keep slowly decreasing to about 30 FPS then jumping back up to ~40 FPS.

I've only encountered this with Last Eco Winter, regardless of game mode. It happened to me in a Siege game and a TDM match.  Outside of Last Eco Winter, I can bump my settings back up to what they normally are and the game runs smoothly; it's just on Last Eco Winter. I remember running into optimization problems with Frost Prosk in last year's Operation Frostburn as well. Must be the snow.

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Posted December 04 2013 - 06:30 PM

View Post[HWK]SUPPPORT_ARE_TROOPS!, on December 04 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

Hello everyone, performance guy here.  Any additional info you can provide would be a huge help to identifying and fixing this issue.  

Things that would be helpful:
* computer specs, (cpu, mem, gpu)
* what level of detail do you play at?
* what kind of slow down are you seeing?  consistent or inconsistent?  If it is a sudden drop, does it happen after a certain event?  
* what game mode are you experiencing issues with?

Hey dude! thanks for asking. I'm uploading a video as we speak and i'll get you the link asap.

I am experience choppy frames even when I'm traversing the map and no combat is actually taking place in front of me. Severe frame loss when large explosions or excessive dodging is taking place, the closer the worse. If I kill someone that is directly in front of me, The "Eliminated Player" thing pops up, and he explodes that's when I notice it the most.

I play with graphics and textures on high, draw distance at 3.

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Posted December 04 2013 - 06:36 PM

View Post[HWK]SUPPPORT_ARE_TROOPS!, on December 04 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

Hello everyone, performance guy here.  Any additional info you can provide would be a huge help to identifying and fixing this issue.  

Things that would be helpful:
* computer specs, (cpu, mem, gpu)
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View Post[HWK]SUPPPORT_ARE_TROOPS!, on December 04 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

* what level of detail do you play at?
Always Ultra, tried turning it down to Low on Winter Eco which seemed to help quite a bit.

View Post[HWK]SUPPPORT_ARE_TROOPS!, on December 04 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

* what kind of slow down are you seeing?  consistent or inconsistent?  If it is a sudden drop, does it happen after a certain event?
FPS will drop considerably, as far as I can tell always during combat - the more mechs fighting, the worse it gets. I locked the game at 57FPS via RadeonPro and it runs at 57FPS all the time on every other map. During such a slow-down it drops down to 20 or so FPS :(

View Post[HWK]SUPPPORT_ARE_TROOPS!, on December 04 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

* what game mode are you experiencing issues with?
Only TDM as I haven't played Winter Eco on any other game mode yet.

Hope you can figure it out!

Edited by Nvain, December 04 2013 - 06:40 PM.


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Posted December 04 2013 - 06:38 PM

has any one else noticed that hellfires dont track as good since the patch, they seem to miss even in the open when the target is moving, it might just be me though....
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Posted December 04 2013 - 06:46 PM

View Post[HWK]SUPPPORT_ARE_TROOPS!, on December 04 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

Hello everyone, performance guy here.  Any additional info you can provide would be a huge help to identifying and fixing this issue.  

Things that would be helpful:
* computer specs, (cpu, mem, gpu)
* what level of detail do you play at?
* what kind of slow down are you seeing?  consistent or inconsistent?  If it is a sudden drop, does it happen after a certain event?  
* what game mode are you experiencing issues with?

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Starting Winter eco the games becomes too slow, even turning the effects on low dont resolve the slowness of the entire map. everytime than happens ill must wait for the change of map or play in other server, Siege mode on US-E

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Posted December 05 2013 - 09:10 AM

View Post[HWK]SUPPPORT_ARE_TROOPS!, on December 04 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

Hello everyone, performance guy here.  Any additional info you can provide would be a huge help to identifying and fixing this issue.  

Things that would be helpful:
* computer specs, (cpu, mem, gpu)
* what level of detail do you play at?
* what kind of slow down are you seeing?  consistent or inconsistent?  If it is a sudden drop, does it happen after a certain event?  
* what game mode are you experiencing issues with?

I have noticed a large drop in framrate, although this is still fine for me to play.
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I play at max settings w/out phys-x. All maps run at around 120 fps, last eco @ 100 fps. (all game modes).
Winter last eco runs at 70~80, and drops to 60 fps when entering combat (i.e. when explosions start).
As I stated this is fine for me play wise, I just thought I'd put my specs and details up. Hope this helps.
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