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Introducing the Game Guide

Posted by Scapes May 20 2013 11:16 AM in Game Information

Introducing the Game Guide

If you're new to HAWKEN or looking to round out your pilot training, the new Game Guide is for you! It features a full inventory of mechs, weapons, items, and abilities and will be updated as new content is introduced. In addition to revealing new details on mech movement and fuel usage, it also offers tips and tricks for piloting or defeating each mech!



We'll continue to add to the Game Guide, so be sure to tell us what game element you'd like us to feature next.



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66 Comments


Umbre
May 20 2013 12:12 PM
I have already found misleading information.

The lack of actual damage/heating/RoF values is disappointing. It has been stated that getting us the numbers would be "time consuming" and "complicated", so here's my suggestion:

Let the community provide you with the data. Some of us (including myself) spend a lot of time testing the game and figuring out all of the values and statistics.

Shadeness
May 20 2013 12:22 PM
The thumbnails don't match the full size picture in the rocketeer screenshots. http://www.playhawke...mechs/rocketeer

The guide looks awesome.

Edit:
Prestige weapon was mixed up: http://www.playhawke...m-mechs/assault

Scapes
May 20 2013 12:25 PM

View PostShadeness, on May 20 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

The thumbnails don't match the full size picture in the rocketeer screenshots.
http://www.playhawke...mechs/rocketeer

The guide looks awesome.

Good catch and thank you!

ropefish
May 20 2013 12:29 PM

View PostUmbre, on May 20 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:

I have already found misleading information.

The lack of actual damage/heating/RoF values is disappointing. It has been stated that getting us the numbers would be "time consuming" and "complicated", so here's my suggestion:

Let the community provide you with the data. Some of us (including myself) spend a lot of time testing the game and figuring out all of the values and statistics.
why does at least one person always have to complain about something in the forums

also thanks for the guid scapes :3

Umbre
May 20 2013 12:36 PM

View Postropefish, on May 20 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

why does at least one person always have to complain about something in the forums

It's criticism and it isn't a bad thing.

Ashfire908
May 20 2013 12:44 PM

View PostUmbre, on May 20 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:

I have already found misleading information.

The lack of actual damage/heating/RoF values is disappointing. It has been stated that getting us the numbers would be "time consuming" and "complicated", so here's my suggestion:

Let the community provide you with the data. Some of us (including myself) spend a lot of time testing the game and figuring out all of the values and statistics.
Game devs release a guide for the game, include mech numbers.
Person compains about what they didn't do without care for anything that was done, implies devs are incompentent at getting stats for their own game.

h0B0
May 20 2013 12:46 PM
Weapon stats taken from: http://hawkenwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page

Weapon stats: https://docs.google....dXc&usp=sharing
Spoiler
Abilities
Spoiler

Maps(taken from Ashfire908's thread https://community.pl...4-in-game-maps/)
Spoiler
Game modes

Siege mode
Video

Missile Assault
Video

Garage
Video

Basic combat
Video


More usefull links.
Community created Wiki
HWK basic combat guide offers full coverage of basic keybinds and UI.
HAWKEN Tips and Tricks Thread byArnieF4440,
Lore guide by Neverm0re
WolfyFTW Mindgamer video series
h0B0's outdated tips videos
h0B0's items and internals guide.

Edit: i have uploaded a bunch of usefull information that i did not see in the guide at a quick glance. Please note i will not keep this information up to date, please check the date and patch notes or use a better source for reference in the future.

Also, the text you see below was my original reply to the topic.

I've been waiting for this for ever.

It's a nice start. we still need moar.

Lets add: stats to weapons and abilities. Descriptions of game modes and maps, basic garage fonctions, ingame ui description. etc...

Lucier
May 20 2013 12:51 PM
It looks fantastic. :lol:
Some stuff that could be added:
  • Max fuel capacity
  • Base ability values (damage bonus, damage resistance, base duration & cooldown etc.)
  • Item damage/healing/health/duration values as well as cooldowns
  • Mech/Item prices
  • Internals and their associated values
  • Countermeasures (even though I like to pretend they don't exist)
  • Detailed weapon info (obviously)

Sylhiri
May 20 2013 12:52 PM
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Jintonic
May 20 2013 12:58 PM
This bugs me for long time.  Quote from guide

Quote

The Rocketeer excels at providing long-range support with homing capabilities on its primary and secondary weapons. It can walk at full speed utilizing its Mobile Turret Special Ability, allowing the Rocketeer to cover large areas while remaining protected.
I understand that there are  ~3 people playing rocketeers in this game, can someone explain how does this ability work (i assume it does if they didn't change it in 6 months)
Movement speed is same, so what is this "mobility" thing  that should allow me to "cover large areas while remaining protected" _

Umbre
May 20 2013 01:00 PM

View PostJintonic, on May 20 2013 - 12:58 PM, said:

Movement speed is same, so what is this "mobility" thing  that should allow me to "cover large areas while remaining protected" _

The Rocketeer's ability is to turn into a giant lubricated space pancake that just glides along the ground silently. (In other words, turret mode, but it's almost twice as fast as the other turret modes)

Jintonic
May 20 2013 01:02 PM

View PostUmbre, on May 20 2013 - 01:00 PM, said:

View PostJintonic, on May 20 2013 - 12:58 PM, said:

Movement speed is same, so what is this "mobility" thing  that should allow me to "cover large areas while remaining protected" _

The Rocketeer's ability is to turn into a giant lubricated space pancake that just glides along the ground silently. (In other words, turret mode, but it's almost twice as fast as the other turret modes)
how come it doesent look twice as fast _

Umbre
May 20 2013 01:05 PM

View PostJintonic, on May 20 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:

how come it doesent look twice as fast _

Because the ability was broken prior to the recent patch.

AsianJoyKiller
May 20 2013 02:22 PM

View PostAshfire908, on May 20 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

View PostUmbre, on May 20 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:

I have already found misleading information.

The lack of actual damage/heating/RoF values is disappointing. It has been stated that getting us the numbers would be "time consuming" and "complicated", so here's my suggestion:

Let the community provide you with the data. Some of us (including myself) spend a lot of time testing the game and figuring out all of the values and statistics.
Game devs release a guide for the game, include mech numbers.
Person compains about what they didn't do without care for anything that was done, implies devs are incompentent at getting stats for their own game.
Given how misleading some of the information is in that guide, I don't thing criticizing them for a lack of hard information is such a bad thing.

KaszaWspraju
May 20 2013 02:25 PM
Add this:

https://community.pl...c-combat-guide/

...to game giude tab.

h0B0
May 20 2013 02:28 PM

View PostKaszaWspraju, on May 20 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

Add this:

https://community.pl...c-combat-guide/

...to game giude tab.
LoL i was just about to add these to my posts.

Yes please add these to the guide.

Beefsweat
May 20 2013 02:34 PM
prosk/sentium classifications seem totally whack (according to original statements) :wacko:

Beemann
May 20 2013 02:48 PM

View PostAshfire908, on May 20 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

View PostUmbre, on May 20 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:

I have already found misleading information.

The lack of actual damage/heating/RoF values is disappointing. It has been stated that getting us the numbers would be "time consuming" and "complicated", so here's my suggestion:

Let the community provide you with the data. Some of us (including myself) spend a lot of time testing the game and figuring out all of the values and statistics.
Game devs release a guide for the game, include mech numbers.
Person compains about what they didn't do without care for anything that was done, implies devs are incompentent at getting stats for their own game.
Sorry Ash, but if you're going to get credit for doing something, it needs to be done right
The weapon stats and the mech speeds are demonstrably incorrect, and they still refuse to post actual numbers that people have had access to for months in what is meant to be a teaching tool for Hawken

OdinTheWise
May 20 2013 03:35 PM

View PostBeemann, on May 20 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostAshfire908, on May 20 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

View PostUmbre, on May 20 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:

I have already found misleading information.

The lack of actual damage/heating/RoF values is disappointing. It has been stated that getting us the numbers would be "time consuming" and "complicated", so here's my suggestion:

Let the community provide you with the data. Some of us (including myself) spend a lot of time testing the game and figuring out all of the values and statistics.
Game devs release a guide for the game, include mech numbers.
Person compains about what they didn't do without care for anything that was done, implies devs are incompentent at getting stats for their own game.
Sorry Ash, but if you're going to get credit for doing something, it needs to be done right
The weapon stats and the mech speeds are demonstrably incorrect, and they still refuse to post actual numbers that people have had access to for months in what is meant to be a teaching tool for Hawken
You arnt happy unless it is done your way are you_

Beemann
May 20 2013 03:41 PM

View PostOdinTheWise, on May 20 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

View PostBeemann, on May 20 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostAshfire908, on May 20 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

View PostUmbre, on May 20 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:

I have already found misleading information.

The lack of actual damage/heating/RoF values is disappointing. It has been stated that getting us the numbers would be "time consuming" and "complicated", so here's my suggestion:

Let the community provide you with the data. Some of us (including myself) spend a lot of time testing the game and figuring out all of the values and statistics.
Game devs release a guide for the game, include mech numbers.
Person compains about what they didn't do without care for anything that was done, implies devs are incompentent at getting stats for their own game.
Sorry Ash, but if you're going to get credit for doing something, it needs to be done right
The weapon stats and the mech speeds are demonstrably incorrect, and they still refuse to post actual numbers that people have had access to for months in what is meant to be a teaching tool for Hawken
You arnt happy unless it is done your way are you_
Sorry that I'm not satisfied with Adhesive posting misinformation on their own site, and about their own game

AsianJoyKiller
May 20 2013 03:42 PM

View PostOdinTheWise, on May 20 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

You arnt happy unless it is done your way are you_
Today I learned it's stupid to be unhappy when a guide puts forth WRONG information.

Scapes
May 20 2013 03:46 PM
This is the first set of additions to our Game Guide, there will definitely be more. We want to add game modes, maps, internals, achievements, and customizations to name a few features not yet represented.

The community-run HAWKEN wiki has done an excellent job of monitoring in-game values during the game's beta. We do plan on releasing absolute values on our official website when HAWKEN gets closer to full release.

That said, if you've found an error in what we've published, please bring it to our attention. We're rather quick about fixing them!

Ashfire908
May 20 2013 03:56 PM

View PostAsianJoyKiller, on May 20 2013 - 03:42 PM, said:

View PostOdinTheWise, on May 20 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

You arnt happy unless it is done your way are you_
Today I learned it's stupid to be unhappy when a guide puts forth WRONG information.
TIL critique includes saying information is wrong but not saying what is wrong in the information.

I'm sorry but all the posts I've read say the info is misleading but fail to say what part of the information is wrong. You can't say that a category of information is wrong, say what SPECIFICALLY is wrong.

Ashfire908
May 20 2013 03:59 PM

View PostScapes, on May 20 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

The community-run HAWKEN wiki has done an excellent job of monitoring in-game values during the game's beta.
The wiki can't take the credit for it really, I just updated it finally. The various testing doing by clans and individuals, and the spreadsheets (eg SK/AJK/H0b0's stats sheet) have done a better job.

AsianJoyKiller
May 20 2013 04:12 PM

View PostAshfire908, on May 20 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

I'm sorry but all the posts I've read say the info is misleading but fail to say what part of the information is wrong. You can't say that a category of information is wrong, say what SPECIFICALLY is wrong.
So what_ That still doesn't make the info any less wrong. Just because we haven't detailed anything does not change that fact. And it's not like we're referring to hidden information that we need to provide proof for in order to back up our claim.
All the information is right there for you to see.

Today I learned that I have to post a full analysis of every single thing that is wrong with the guide, otherwise I'm not allowed to comment on the fact that they've provided false information.

And don't you find it a bit absurd that WE are providing information on the values to the DEVELOPERS, the people who have the code and have built the game_