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#1 Gerock

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Posted July 14 2013 - 11:52 AM

Why Rider with a special feature "a very short distance attack", having weapons mostly shotgun and "strange" grenade launcher, does not cause significant damage in the melee. recruit's rocket launcher does much more damage at close range and long-range. So it should be_

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#2 v009

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Posted July 14 2013 - 11:58 AM

The Raiders has the highest secondary weapon damage of all mechs currently available. I think it's 208 in MIRV mode and 170 in grenade lob mode. Also in the MIRV mode you have to land all 8 pellets to do full damage.
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Posted July 14 2013 - 11:58 AM

Your last statement made me lol. :P Props to you.

And, if used correctly, the Raider's weapons do very, very well in close quarters. Reflak is good (bouncy) automatic damage, while the "strange" grenade launcher, if put into the MIRV mode (click the "weapon utility" button), is one of the best in the game. I leveled my Raider all the way up to 25 with the Reflak, and enjoyed every minute of it. Click here to watch the Raider Mechanics video on YouTube. This should help.

Good luck figuring out this mech!

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#4 Guiotine

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Posted July 14 2013 - 11:58 AM

Raider has the highest potential burst damage in the game, and it's secondary weapon has the highest damage in both forms. Just to make sure, you do know you can switch the secondary's form with the middle mouse button, correct_ This changes it from a grenade launcher to an short range explosive shotgun, and it gets even stronger. For some numbers to compare: The recruit's TOW does about 150-155 damage, IIRC. The Raider's Corsair-KLA does 185 in Grenade Launcher form and 210 in the Explosive Shotgun (AKA MIRV) form.

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#5 Gerock

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Posted July 14 2013 - 12:16 PM

hmmm. Thank you all. I will understand this mech.
I had time to be disappointed, but you gave me hope!

As you understand, I'm a noob :) gotta go watch videos :D

#6 angryhampster

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Posted July 14 2013 - 12:25 PM

use the middle key to change guns.

when it  straight line  __________   ur enemies will die fast

when it's a line like this     l         you can shoot the gun far

the raider is close range fighter.  if u no like, buy sharpshooter or reaper
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#7 havoc5

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Posted July 14 2013 - 01:06 PM

You have to aim the MIRV like you're lagging, HUGE leads.

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Posted July 15 2013 - 01:42 AM

do not know, but last time I checked the MIRV was a trace-weapon, meaning insta-hit ... but it has a hughe spread

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Posted July 15 2013 - 02:35 AM

Im trying to level up my raider (still at lvl 13 since i ditched it at the bottom of my garage), i use to hate it and think shotguns where underpowered but now that i've played scout, trial brawler, EOC infiltrator i feel like im up to the task of using the "strange" shotgun as you call it to get it to lvl 25 and EOC the shiznits out of my enemies, a good raider with EOC dominates

The raider is B so it can take more hits, and it has a super speed ability good for runing away (only use if very needed) and to chase (good if your sure you can get your enemy before he meets with his allies)
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Posted July 15 2013 - 04:44 AM

View PostFlagge69, on July 15 2013 - 01:42 AM, said:

do not know, but last time I checked the MIRV was a trace-weapon, meaning insta-hit ... but it has a hughe spread
MIRV is a projectile.

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Posted July 15 2013 - 04:56 AM

View PostAsianJoyKiller, on July 15 2013 - 04:44 AM, said:

MIRV is a projectile.
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Posted July 15 2013 - 05:21 AM

View PostMr_UnKNoWn, on July 15 2013 - 04:56 AM, said:

View PostAsianJoyKiller, on July 15 2013 - 04:44 AM, said:

MIRV is a projectile.
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No.

Hitscan/Trace:
  • Flak
  • Mini Flak
  • Assault Rifle
  • SMC
  • Vulcan
  • Sabot
  • KE-Sabot
  • Helix Repair Torch
  • AM Sar
  • SA Hawkin
  • Slug Rifle
  • T-32 Bolt
  • Reflak
  • Hawkin RPR
  • MG Turret
Projectile
  • KLA-Corsair (both modes)
  • TOW
  • GL
  • REV-GL
  • Hellfires
  • EOC
  • HEAT Cannon
  • Seeker
  • Redox
  • Rocket Turret
  • HE Charge
  • EMP
  • Detonator

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[HWK]HUGHES, on July 03 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

AJK is right

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Posted July 15 2013 - 05:24 AM

View PostAsianJoyKiller, on July 15 2013 - 05:21 AM, said:

View PostMr_UnKNoWn, on July 15 2013 - 04:56 AM, said:

View PostAsianJoyKiller, on July 15 2013 - 04:44 AM, said:

MIRV is a projectile.
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No.

Hitscan/Trace:
  • Flak
  • Mini Flak
  • Assault Rifle
  • SMC
  • Vulcan
  • Sabot
  • KE-Sabot
  • Helix Repair Torch
  • AM Sar
  • SA Hawkin
  • Slug Rifle
  • T-32 Bolt
  • Reflak
  • Hawkin RPR
  • MG Turret
Projectile
  • KLA-Corsair (both modes)
  • TOW
  • GL
  • REV-GL
  • Hellfires
  • EOC
  • HEAT Cannon
  • Seeker
  • Redox
  • Rocket Turret
  • HE Charge
  • EMP
  • Detonator
You didn't know this_
Seriously_
OMG, OF COURSE I KNEW ALL OF THIS, I HAVES BIG BRAIN.

inb4, sarcasm

But srsly i play to have fun, i dont really care whats trace or not, i just know that all secondaries, except sabot or ke sabot are projectile, of course i have ping issues.

Edited by Wondrz, July 15 2013 - 05:29 AM.

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#14 AsianJoyKiller

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Posted July 15 2013 - 05:46 AM

View PostWondrz, on July 15 2013 - 05:24 AM, said:

OMG, OF COURSE I KNEW ALL OF THIS, I HAVES BIG BRAIN.
You may want to see a doctor. Swelling of the brain is extremely dangerous.

[HWK]HUGHES, on July 03 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

AJK is right

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#15 Flagge69

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Posted July 15 2013 - 06:32 AM

I can swear its trace ... ther is no projectile ... the visual-trail is generated in regards to the hit surface ... I always have ping,but I swear ...

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Posted July 15 2013 - 06:38 AM

View PostFlagge69, on July 15 2013 - 06:32 AM, said:

I can swear its trace ... ther is no projectile ... the visual-trail is generated in regards to the hit surface ... I always have ping,but I swear ...

It's most definitely projectile, tested it myself.

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Posted July 15 2013 - 06:44 AM

View PostFlagge69, on July 15 2013 - 06:32 AM, said:

I can swear its trace ... ther is no projectile ... the visual-trail is generated in regards to the hit surface ... I always have ping,but I swear ...
It's a fast projectile, but it's still projectile.

[HWK]HUGHES, on July 03 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

AJK is right

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Posted July 15 2013 - 09:15 AM

I started my Raider 1 week ago, it s clearly not a newbie mech cause its low rate of fire, so no 2nd chance,so I v been fully toasted by every single godam TV recruit !!!!

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Posted July 15 2013 - 09:18 AM

i might actually be forced to play B mechs, because A mechs put too much strain on my left hand.    my left hand is weak because i never use it.

i regret it all these years.....
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Posted July 15 2013 - 09:21 AM

The MIRV is barely faster than a TOW. Most awkward shotgun-ish weapon I've ever used because it's so slow.





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