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#1 kanmuri

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Posted April 05 2014 - 05:54 AM

Hawken recent crappy here.
Purpose of ride on the robot is easy to see only has faded.
This game should the robot game.

I want you to look at this trailer.



I was impressed with this trailer.
It's as "FPS" love, even as a "robot game" enthusiast.

But Hawken now is different.

Inshinireita killed the enemy in one second,Scout to the movement though, such as the "sports FPS".
Even not want to do is "Call of Duty", I do not even necessarily want to do "Quake".

TTK(Time To Kill) is simply because long time, it's going to be "Mech Shooter".
It's going to be "Mech" moving speed is slow, simply because compensate hovering and boost it.
HUD is simply because is displayed in the cockpit, I get used to "Mech engineers".


I like this game. We're really love the Hawken.
So I applied for the "alpha test", it is "alpha testers", they have ever played.
I launched a Wiki for Japanese. Was also reported bugs as possible.

I do not want to "FPS game" in the bad sense.

I want you to reconsider the direction of the game developers.



I'm not good at English.
So I used Google Translate.

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最近のHawkenはとても安っぽい
ロボットに乗るという意義がとても薄れているように思える
このゲームはロボットゲームであるべきなのではないか

この予告動画を今一度見て欲しい

https://www.youtube.com/watch_v=udEAEARD-Fo

私はこの動画を見て感動した
ロボットゲーム好きとしても、FPS好きとしても

しかし今のHawkenは違う

インシネレイターは1秒で敵を倒し、スカウトはQuakeのように動く
私は「Call of Duty」がしたいわけでも、「Quake」がしたいわけでもないんだ

TTK(敵を倒すまでの時間) は時間が長いからこそ「メックシューター」になる
メックの移動速度が遅く、ブーストやホバリングでそれを補うからこそ「メック」になる
HUDがコックピットに表示されているからこそ「メックエンジニア」になれる

私はこのゲームが好きだ。Hawkenが本当に好きなんだ。
だから私は「aテスト」に応募し、「aテスター」として今までプレイしてきた。
私は日本人向けのWikiを立ち上げ、可能な限りのバグ報告もした。

#2 kanmuri

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Posted April 05 2014 - 06:01 AM

Oh sorry.
I had made ​​a mistake in the multi-post.

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Posted April 05 2014 - 06:30 AM

That was back in Alpha.

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Posted April 05 2014 - 06:35 AM

Hello!  The reason why the HUD was changed was because it caused many problems for people with both new and old computers, and after the change many people had frame rate increases just because it was more streamlined.

EDIT:  Okay, changed it. :P

Edited by Hijinks_The_Turtle, April 05 2014 - 06:42 AM.


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Posted April 05 2014 - 06:40 AM

View PostHijinks_The_Turtle, on April 05 2014 - 06:35 AM, said:

Hello!  The reason why the HUD was changed was because it caused many problems for people with older computers, and after the change many people had frame rate increases just because it was more streamlined.

Not even old computers. My new computer had problems with it :(


I think it is 1000's of money. IT IS 1000,s OF MONEY!!!.


#6 kanmuri

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Posted April 05 2014 - 06:44 AM

Postscript because a mistake

I do not want to "nomal FPS game" in the bad sense.
I want you to review the direction of the game developers.

私はこのゲームに悪い意味での「普通のFPS」になって欲しくない
開発者にはこのゲームの方向性を見直して欲しい

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Posted April 05 2014 - 06:48 AM

View PostHijinks_The_Turtle, on April 05 2014 - 06:35 AM, said:

Hello!  The reason why the HUD was changed was because it caused many problems for people with both new and old computers, and after the change many people had frame rate increases just because it was more streamlined.


Even so, too cheapness.
But instead of "changing the HUD", it Did not able to "fix the problems of the HUD."

それにしても安っぽすぎる。
「HUDを変える」のではなく、「HUDの不具合を直す」という事は出来なかったのか。

Edited by kanmuri, April 05 2014 - 06:49 AM.


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Posted April 05 2014 - 06:49 AM

View Postkanmuri, on April 05 2014 - 06:44 AM, said:

Postscript because a mistake

I do not want to "nomal FPS game" in the bad sense.
I want you to review the direction of the game developers.

私はこのゲームに悪い意味での「普通のFPS」になって欲しくない
開発者にはこのゲームの方向性を見直して欲しい

The game has been going in a new direction for a while. They changed the way the game was before I even played, which was in alpha. It may be too far along to change back now.


I think it is 1000's of money. IT IS 1000,s OF MONEY!!!.


#9 Hijinks_The_Turtle

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Posted April 05 2014 - 06:49 AM

Ah okay, I find the direction the developers to be (for the most part) in the way I want them to go.

View Postkanmuri, on April 05 2014 - 06:48 AM, said:

Even so, too cheapness.
But instead of "changing the HUD", it Did not able to "fix the problems of the HUD."

それにしても安っぽすぎる。
「HUDを変える」のではなく、「HUDの不具合を直す」という事は出来なかったのか。

Can you please list what these problems the current HUD has caused_

Edited by Hijinks_The_Turtle, April 05 2014 - 06:50 AM.


#10 kanmuri

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Posted April 05 2014 - 07:08 AM

View PostHijinks_The_Turtle, on April 05 2014 - 06:49 AM, said:

Ah okay, I find the direction the developers to be (for the most part) in the way I want them to go.

View Postkanmuri, on April 05 2014 - 06:48 AM, said:

Even so, too cheapness.
But instead of "changing the HUD", it Did not able to "fix the problems of the HUD."

それにしても安っぽすぎる。
「HUDを変える」のではなく、「HUDの不具合を直す」という事は出来なかったのか。

Can you please list what these problems the current HUD has caused_

Orphaned unnaturally away from the cockpit as "HP bar", "FUEL Bar"
Ability mark too large
The pop-up display is a mismatch with the world devastated
Any aware of only visibility

Goodness of "MechShooter" are missing.

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Posted April 05 2014 - 07:17 AM

Well, the HP bar and the Fuel bar are attached to your helmet's HUD as is the information in the pop-up display. You do know you can change the colors to make it match the devastated world feel you like.

As for the ability, that's so people can see it more easily since the last version of the HUD had many problems where people couldn't see things like that clearly.

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Posted April 05 2014 - 08:39 AM

what is the point of this thread_
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Posted April 05 2014 - 09:22 AM

View PostBeefsweat, on April 05 2014 - 08:39 AM, said:

what is the point of this thread_

Someone is voicing their opinion of the game. What was the point of your post_ You brought nothing to the discussion.

To the OP, I agree that there has been a lot of change to the game since that video was made. However, the game was very immature at that point. A lot had to change to make it a playable experience and a lot of that involved changing how things work, including changing the graphical elements of the HUD.
There has been a lot of progression towards allowing more customization so, hopefully, we'll be able to bring back a bit more of that 'gritty' feel to the cockpit.

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Posted April 05 2014 - 09:39 AM

I think "eventually" they will add some customizations to how the HUD looks. But right now they have bigger fish to fry
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Posted April 05 2014 - 11:57 PM

One thing I see in that trailer that I want in the game now is that it seemed that the player could zoom regardless of weapon/mech.  I may be incorrect, but I'd think with all this tech, a zoom feature would be built into the helmet...

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Posted April 06 2014 - 12:32 AM

View PostLiath_Sakata, on April 05 2014 - 11:57 PM, said:

One thing I see in that trailer that I want in the game now is that it seemed that the player could zoom regardless of weapon/mech.  I may be incorrect, but I'd think with all this tech, a zoom feature would be built into the helmet...

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This is a screen looking into the scope

It is displayed in the HUD helmet_
So why cockpit is displayed_
Excuse that they are displayed on the helmet is broken.

Display that are new: "Hawken Ascension" and later thing none cheesy.
By "low FPS" Is not an excuse_

#17 kanmuri

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Posted April 06 2014 - 01:05 AM

I want to say it's not just HUD.
Game play that became: "Quake Flavor Call of Duty," a result of pop-up uncool, DirectX remains of old, it was too fast you are aware of just visibility.
They are betrayed a tester.


The essence of the story's "direction of the game."
Developers do you want to "normal FPS game" this game_
TTK also game speed also me to leave this early if so.
Give me the thing HUD also easy to see more awkward if so.
However it I will also able to betray the player of the first period.

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Posted April 06 2014 - 01:21 AM

View Postkanmuri, on April 06 2014 - 01:05 AM, said:

I want to say it's not just HUD.
Game play that became: "Quake Flavor Call of Duty," a result of pop-up uncool, DirectX remains of old, it was too fast you are aware of just visibility.
They are betrayed a tester.


The essence of the story's "direction of the game."
Developers do you want to "normal FPS game" this game_
TTK also game speed also me to leave this early if so.
Give me the thing HUD also easy to see more awkward if so.
However it I will also able to betray the player of the first period.
Do english u spiik_
I`ll fix it later.

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Posted April 06 2014 - 01:32 AM

View PostHijinks_The_Turtle, on April 05 2014 - 07:17 AM, said:

Well, the HP bar and the Fuel bar are attached to your helmet's HUD as is the information in the pop-up display. You do know you can change the colors to make it match the devastated world feel you like.

As for the ability, that's so people can see it more easily since the last version of the HUD had many problems where people couldn't see things like that clearly.

But what if I don't wear a helmet_ oO

No srsly, these bars let me think that these mechs were designed for child soldiers. So every stupid guy can understand it.

Most of the players agree that these abrs are ugly and just lower the fun in the game. Put it somewhere else INTO THE COCKPIT!
And please get rid of these witches and control thingy dingies which are only there for decoration. I prefare a blank steel plate instead of these switches and buttons etc. which are doing nothing. I would be fine if they DO something but for example this ball which is commonly found in plane cockpits is a black-grey ball beeing there like a black-grey-round stone.

BORING!

Remove pls and give me either a steel plate or a health and fuel monitor.

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Posted April 06 2014 - 01:42 AM

View PostAregon, on April 06 2014 - 01:21 AM, said:

View Postkanmuri, on April 06 2014 - 01:05 AM, said:

I want to say it's not just HUD.
Game play that became: "Quake Flavor Call of Duty," a result of pop-up uncool, DirectX remains of old, it was too fast you are aware of just visibility.
They are betrayed a tester.


The essence of the story's "direction of the game."
Developers do you want to "normal FPS game" this game_
TTK also game speed also me to leave this early if so.
Give me the thing HUD also easy to see more awkward if so.
However it I will also able to betray the player of the first period.
Do english u spiik_

sorry.I'm not good at English.

Anyway what I want to say to you is this This game please do not forget that it is "MechShooter".

Trailer that excited me very first was "MechShooter".
But for now, "Hawken" is a "mediocrity FPS".

This game please do not forget that it is "MechShooter".

Edited by kanmuri, April 06 2014 - 01:45 AM.






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