For all people planning on using a joystick
#1
Posted November 14 2012 - 12:24 PM
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#3
Posted November 14 2012 - 12:38 PM
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#4
Posted November 14 2012 - 09:05 PM
Edited by Ace4225, November 14 2012 - 09:06 PM.
#5
Posted November 14 2012 - 09:27 PM
h0B0, on November 14 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:
1 to look
1 to move.
That just sounds awful IMHO. People do it because they think that a real cockpit would have two joysticks. In a real cockpit 1 wouldn't be for just looking and the other for moving, making it almost redundant to try to simulate it that way. Oh how I want to make a cockpit chair so bad but there are no true mech sims out yet. I'm sure people do enjoy it still but to me it just wouldn't make sense to hold it that way.
#6
Posted November 15 2012 - 12:18 PM
#7
Posted November 15 2012 - 12:19 PM
Deu, on November 14 2012 - 09:27 PM, said:
h0B0, on November 14 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:
1 to look
1 to move.
That just sounds awful IMHO. People do it because they think that a real cockpit would have two joysticks. In a real cockpit 1 wouldn't be for just looking and the other for moving, making it almost redundant to try to simulate it that way. Oh how I want to make a cockpit chair so bad but there are no true mech sims out yet. I'm sure people do enjoy it still but to me it just wouldn't make sense to hold it that way.
#8
Posted November 15 2012 - 02:11 PM
NEWSH, on November 14 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:
NEWSH
If you are using a standard joystick, you would have it replace the mouse in using it to look around. The other controls remain the same, so WASD to move around, boost, etc. Map your primary weapon fire to the trigger and your secondary weapon fire to the main thumb trigger. If you have more buttons on top, these can be used to launch your 3 special items.
That's the standard way you would use a joystick in a mech game anyway, to control your X and Y viewing axis's that your mouse normally does as it's to clunky for controlling actual movement and trying to look around using the keyboard will put you at a severe reaction and accuracy disadvantage.
The MEK FU is a dual joystick controller being built for Hawken and will be awesome to play with but will not be ultra competitive as the usual keyboard and mouse combo will.
Cheers,
Gagzila
#9
Posted November 15 2012 - 02:49 PM
Gagzila, on November 15 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:
NEWSH, on November 14 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:
NEWSH
If you are using a standard joystick, you would have it replace the mouse in using it to look around. The other controls remain the same, so WASD to move around, boost, etc. Map your primary weapon fire to the trigger and your secondary weapon fire to the main thumb trigger. If you have more buttons on top, these can be used to launch your 3 special items.
That's the standard way you would use a joystick in a mech game anyway, to control your X and Y viewing axis's that your mouse normally does as it's to clunky for controlling actual movement and trying to look around using the keyboard will put you at a severe reaction and accuracy disadvantage.
The MEK FU is a dual joystick controller being built for Hawken and will be awesome to play with but will not be ultra competitive as the usual keyboard and mouse combo will.
Cheers,
Gagzila
I would agree, the mech-fu would be fun but too cumbersome to be competitive
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#10
Posted November 19 2012 - 10:19 AM
You're not "looking around", you're aiming and reorienting your mech. Adding a look feature would be something done with track IR or oculus. In a "real" mech you would have to have a control for movement and a control for target acquisition and aiming dumb fire weapons.
Personally I would love to use a joystick just so i have a more comfortable way to use missiles and items and the Heat Gun. Nothing throws your aim off more than having to hold a mouse button then release it at the right time. And since hawken already limits the player's movement it only makes more sense to use a joystick. You can't really twitch past 90 degrees with a fast mouse flick like other shooters. This is the perfect game to get people back into using joysticks and cool perhiperals
#11
Posted November 19 2012 - 10:24 AM
You can't do that in hawken because the mech's mobility is limited. The same people who top the kill charts will still top them while they're using dual joysticks or whatever. The difference is that they will be even more obnoxious with their multi shot he charge, TOW combos.
#12
Posted November 20 2012 - 03:07 PM
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#13
Posted November 20 2012 - 06:06 PM
NEWSH, on November 14 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:
#14
Posted November 20 2012 - 06:47 PM
#15
Posted November 21 2012 - 01:02 AM
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#16
Posted November 21 2012 - 09:28 AM
As for looking around, I think you could map that to a hatswitch.
#17
Posted November 22 2012 - 07:53 PM
FUZZY DUNLOP, on November 19 2012 - 10:19 AM, said:
You're not "looking around", you're aiming and reorienting your mech. Adding a look feature would be something done with track IR or oculus. In a "real" mech you would have to have a control for movement and a control for target acquisition and aiming dumb fire weapons.
Personally I would love to use a joystick just so i have a more comfortable way to use missiles and items and the Heat Gun. Nothing throws your aim off more than having to hold a mouse button then release it at the right time. And since hawken already limits the player's movement it only makes more sense to use a joystick. You can't really twitch past 90 degrees with a fast mouse flick like other shooters. This is the perfect game to get people back into using joysticks and cool perhiperals
I have a "Track IR" head tracker for my flight based games (IL-2 and Wings of Prey) and would be very happy if I could use it on this game too (talk about realism, nothing beats turning your head to look around).
I have already given up on one Mech game because it didn't support pc-type joysticks, and hope that this Mech game doesn't lose my interest due to not supporting such a simple input device.
Edited by Target_Drone, November 23 2012 - 05:46 PM.
#18
Posted November 23 2012 - 11:55 AM
Deu, on November 14 2012 - 09:27 PM, said:
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#19
Posted November 25 2012 - 05:44 PM
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Posted November 25 2012 - 06:41 PM
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