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Hey folks,

It’s that time again - time for another blogpost!

We have some special features and content in the next update for consoles, and we would like to share with you what we have worked on.

First, we’d like to announce that Microsoft and Sony’s testing has been completed for the next upcoming update. This allows us to launch the update when we’re absolutely ready to. We’re really excited to bring more content to Hawken to Xbox One, PS4, and early next year, PC.

We’ve been refactoring a lot of the backend systems of Hawken in preparation for some crazy stuff we would like to do in Content Update 3. While we’re not ready to talk about that stuff yet, we’re sure it’s going to rock your socks off.

Here’s some more of Content Update 2 you can expect in the meantime...

Leaderboards

Introducing Leaderboards! This is an entirely new system that we’ve made for Hawken in Content Update 2. The system is fairly simple: select a stat, and you will be able to see where you stack up against other players of that category. Initially, there will be a few categories but we will add more as time goes on.

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The system is set up internally in a way that it supports clearing out this data at any point (Seasons, anyone?) and we hope to expand and add onto this system in multiple ways in the future.

Cosmetics

We’ve got a plethora of cosmetic options for your Mechs coming up. New camo options, cockpit designs, and pilot emblems are some of the many things we will be added. There might even be some surprises this holiday season…


For now, though, here are a few of the items we will be releasing:

Introducing the Hula Girl bobblehead (with wobbling action!), the World’s Best Pilot mug, and the plain ol’ assault rifle from before the Hawken Virus hit.

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We’ve also got some cool looking cosmetic options for those who like to drink: A bottle of one of Illal’s finest microbrew and of course a Sentium Mug (there’s a Prosk one too, don’t worry, Prosk fans!).
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There are even more cosmetics on the way after the launch of Content Update 2, and even...

Wait, what are these? Why can’t I move? What’s going on here?

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"Early next year"


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Ord. Slug V2 and PN-223.

 

Jobs. Corsair KLA and EOC Repeater.

 

There are a couple variants on the PN-223 and EOC-R in the files so don't be so quick to judge Jobs as console EOC Raider. Ord may have variable scope zoom as its weapon utility, just a guess as there is only one other sniper entry in HawkenGame.int. The model name is Slug V2, but the entry is tagged [R_Weap_Sniper_V2], so I'm not certain. 

 

Copy-paste from the Un-implemented Weapons/Abilities/Mechs thread for reference.

 

 

[R_Weap_Sniper_V2]
DisplayName="V2 Sabot Rifle"
Description="PLACEHOLDER A sabot rifle with multiple zoom modes, firing knocks you out of zoom."
UpgradeName[0]="NAME 1 UPDATEME"
UpgradeName[1]="NAME 2 UPDATEME"
UpgradeName[2]="NAME 3 UPDATEME"
UpgradeDescription[0]="UPGRADE 1 UPDATEME"
UpgradeDescription[1]="UPGRADE 2 UPDATEME"
UpgradeDescription[2]="UPGRADE 3 UPDATEME"

 

 

[R_Weap_Pistol_Mag]
DisplayName="MAG Pistol"
LoreText="Fires High Calibur Rounds"
Description="UPDATE ME"
TooltipText="UPDATE ME"
UpgradeName[0]="UPDATE ME"
UpgradeName[1]="UPDATE ME"
UpgradeName[2]="HUPDATE ME"
UpgradeDescription[0]="UPDATE ME"
UpgradeDescription[1]="UPDATE ME"
UpgradeDescription[2]="UPDATE ME"

[R_Weap_Pistol_Rapid]
DisplayName="Rapid Pistol"
LoreText="Fires low calibur rounds quickly."
Description="UPDATE ME"
TooltipText="UPDATE ME"
UpgradeName[0]="UPDATE ME"
UpgradeName[1]="UPDATE ME"
UpgradeName[2]="HUPDATE ME"
UpgradeDescription[0]="UPDATE ME"
UpgradeDescription[1]="UPDATE ME"
UpgradeDescription[2]="UPDATE ME"

Neither of these are the PN-223, though they are likely related. [R_Weap_Pistol_Mag] is also called High Calibur Pistol elsewhere, and [R_Weap_Pistol_Rapid] is also called Rapid Fire Pistol. Notably, the PN-223's entry is called [R_Weap_Pistol_Burst].

 

 

[R_Weap_EOC_Predator_V2]
DisplayName="EOC Predator V2"
LoreText="Chargeable, spreads out up to 5 mines."
Description="UPDATE ME"
TooltipText="UPDATE ME"
UpgradeName[0]="UPDATE ME"
UpgradeName[1]="UPDATE ME"
UpgradeName[2]="HUPDATE ME"
UpgradeDescription[0]="UPDATE ME"
UpgradeDescription[1]="UPDATE ME"
UpgradeDescription[2]="UPDATE ME"

An EOC Repeater that shoots EOC Predator mines. Or maybe an EOC-P Shotgun.


Edited by Sigil_, 15 November 2016 - 08:36 PM.

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No melee. No lasers.


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What's under the boxes? What's under the boxes?

 

WHAT'S UNDER THE BOXES?!


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There are a couple variants on the PN-223 and EOC-R in the files so don't be so quick to judge Jobs as console EOC Raider. Copy-paste from the Un-implemented Weapons/Abilities/Mechs thread.


Nice datamining. It would be a shame if some of that wasn't accurate...
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i hate to sound... well sour but i kinda am...

 

"early summer" becomes next year...

 

more content for consoles... more neglected PC players...

 

sorry but really, i'd personally prefer you told us about HOW the PC update is going and posted the CONSOLE updates on the CONSOLE forums...

 

i mean it just feels a bit like salt in the wounds ya know...

 

nothing personal of cause Czero, i appreciate what you are trying to do... but i mean im fairly sure you understand?

we are playing the same game, no new content in years and yet these NEW players on console are getting beer for their dashboard and gold paints etc...

 

what do we get? teased with a "coming soon" update that keeps getting pushed back so you can focus on consoles


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Nice datamining. It would be a shame if some of that wasn't accurate...

 

I have no problem with being wrong, just trying to give you guys a fair shot before everyone comes down on you for what looks like copying EOC Raider as its own mech and using an arguably terrible weapon in the PN-223 as a primary on a mech with a sniper rifle.


Edited by Sigil_, 15 November 2016 - 08:46 PM.

No melee. No lasers.


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I have no problem with being wrong, just trying to give you guys a fair shot before everyone comes down on you for copying EOC Raider as its own mech and using an arguably terrible weapon in the PN-223 as a primary on a mech with a sniper rifle.


Fair enough... these Mechs have got something unique though. Don't wanna spoil it.
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f#ck yeah! this is Ord!!!
nice


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EOC+Corsair is gonna be great again!


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i hate to sound... well sour but i kinda am...

 

"early summer" becomes next year...

 

more content for consoles... more neglected PC players...

 

sorry but really, i'd personally prefer you told us about HOW the PC update is going and posted the CONSOLE updates on the CONSOLE forums...

 

i mean it just feels a bit like salt in the wounds ya know...

 

nothing personal of cause Czero, i appreciate what you are trying to do... but i mean im fairly sure you understand?

we are playing the same game, no new content in years and yet these NEW players on console are getting beer for their dashboard and gold paints etc...

 

what do we get? teased with a "coming soon" update that keeps getting pushed back so you can focus on consoles

 

feb 2017 is the target date, so that really is early next year

 

and demi, understand this, this stuff is PC update material given that the devs want to bring all this stuff to pc anyway.  the account fix is underway, and there's not much else to say imo.  more details regarding the merging of the codebases (yes we love the nitty gritty here because it makes you devs look smarter and us more appreciative because it looks more complex) would be nice.  why servers have terribad hitreg sometimes maybe, idk.

 

This stuff is nice. more stuff is nice too.  but I like this stuff also.


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Definitely grabbing that Prosk mug once it drops next year. Also very interested in the Ord. Thanks for the update CZeroFive!

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Love the idea of leader boards, cockpit bling and new chasis too but I have to echo some of Demi's disappointment. I believe April will be 2 years since Reloaded took over. I'm sure when you say early next year that leaves April in that window. 2 years possibly for some type of update that had been promised initially in '15, then for sure '16 and now it might, miiiight be '17 - at this point what we know for sure is Reloaded is terrible at keeping promises... and making holo taunts. I'd be happy with just some clean up of the levels, maybe make it so dbags can't jump the walls before the match starts - I thought for sure we'd have seen this in '15. I'm an easy guy to keep happy, I haven't been waiting years and years like some but I'd be downright pissed if I was in their shoes reading this. How do you guys think this is ok to string us along like this?

 

At any rate, Czero thank you for the update, I do appreciate your effort but the people pulling the strings above you are doing a lousy job - and I say this as we are at year end job performance bonus time. Nobody on that team deserves one. I was squarely in the highly optimistic camp during this whole time and was this way until recently when the team thought it was cool to screw up our accounts and take forever to just attempt to fix them. I can't deny any longer that maybe some of the more sour robros among were right all a long seeing the lackluster response to an account crisis like this - people literally can't play the game because they have no mechs. All this reaffirms that I will never, ever play another Reloaded managed game again and I will make sure any person I know who games should also stay away from them too unless they enjoy punches to the crotch. In fact, what is the refund policy for MC? I'd rather just cash out what I have left that hasn't disappeared into the "cleanup" abyss at this point - what's the point of supporting your team when you guys aren't supporting mine? Nobody enjoys feeling duped, especially paying customers.      


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Nice datamining. It would be a shame if some of that wasn't accurate...

 

We've already seen what ADH had on their plates.  Many of us have extracted and browsed the game files for every build ever publically released.  That

info is over 2 years old too.  Its going to take a bit more work by the Reloaded art team/person to create some models the PC users haven't seen before.  I look forward to that moment, however, deep down I feel that train may never arrive at the station, and its really disheartening when you stop and think about it.

 

Oh and leaderboards, whoopie, just what the overqualified needed, another measuring stick to measure their epeen with.   I guess the good news is when theres only ~200 people that play the game, you might actually have a chance to be in the top 100.


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feb 2017 is the target date, so that really is early next year
 
and demi, understand this, this stuff is PC update material given that the devs want to bring all this stuff to pc anyway.  the account fix is underway, and there's not much else to say imo.  more details regarding the merging of the codebases (yes we love the nitty gritty here because it makes you devs look smarter and us more appreciative because it looks more complex) would be nice.  why servers have terribad hitreg sometimes maybe, idk.
 
This stuff is nice. more stuff is nice too.  but I like this stuff also.


There's honestly not much work left to do on PC that wouldn't also apply to consoles. The goal is to add reasons to keep playing the game, ultimately. That is platform agnostic.

We're betting that some of the stuff we're doing in Content Update 3 (which will hopefully launch around the same time as PC relaunch) will actually add those reasons.
If you want me to go into technical detail, well, there's only really database merging to be done (adding in and sync'ing up the two backends which contain Mech stats) and better integration from our development pipeline to Steam. Those are the only two major technical issues that apply to PC.

I absolutely enjoy my job here working with the team. I can't remember the last time I was excited to get up every day to start working at any of my previous jobs.
But it's still a business, and that is taken into consideration too when we make decisions.

Right now sticking to the plan is, well, our plan.
If we sidetrack too much from what we're doing now, we'll have a ton of incomplete systems, buggy code, and an overall messy relaunch. We don't want that to happen.

We know how important this game is to you (as it is to us) and we want to make sure it's perfect before doing it right. With the PC relaunch, we have one opportunity to make a big impression on people.
That's why it's taken years to get where we are now. Good things are worth waiting for.


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There's honestly not much work left to do on PC that wouldn't also apply to consoles. The goal is to add reasons to keep playing the game, ultimately. That is platform agnostic.

We're betting that some of the stuff we're doing in Content Update 3 (which will hopefully launch around the same time as PC relaunch) will actually add those reasons.
If you want me to go into technical detail, well, there's only really database merging to be done (adding in and sync'ing up the two backends which contain Mech stats) and better integration from our development pipeline to Steam. Those are the only two major technical issues that apply to PC.

I absolutely enjoy my job here working with the team. I can't remember the last time I was excited to get up every day to start working at any of my previous jobs.
But it's still a business, and that is taken into consideration too when we make decisions.

Right now sticking to the plan is, well, our plan.
If we sidetrack too much from what we're doing now, we'll have a ton of incomplete systems, buggy code, and an overall messy relaunch. We don't want that to happen.

We know how important this game is to you (as it is to us) and we want to make sure it's perfect before doing it right. With the PC relaunch, we have one opportunity to make a big impression on people.
That's why it's taken years to get where we are now. Good things are worth waiting for.

This guy gets it, people.


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you know what else comes next year...... Nintendo switch, CZerofive if it is not a pc update don't put it on pc forums -.-


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wow ! C05 you r a great guy , but this time will hawken release in beta or full version  :rolleyes:



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Let's hope that February 2017 re-launch doesn't get pushed back... again.


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I wonder.. what it's gonna be.

 

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I wonder.. what it's gonna be.

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I'm just quoting this for the pretty picture.
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I wonder if the weapon combos shown in this thread are going to be less misleading than the ones in the official mech guide.


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Awesome stuff, I'mma shell out money for that Assault Rifle! :D

 

Wait, does this mean you can put a Sentium mug on the dashboard of your Prosk mech?  :ohmy: TRAITORS  :tongue:


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Good things are worth waiting for.

 
I've heard that before.
 

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Oh fuzzy bunny, I get it! I thought that...

 

"Why can't I move? What's going on?"

 

...was just silly nonsense. It's not.

 

It's a clue to the mech ability!


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Oh fuzzy bunny, I get it! I thought that...

 

"Why can't I move? What's going on?"

 

...was just silly nonsense. It's not.

 

It's a clue to the mech ability!

 

Oh dear.  That's sure to start some screaming.


To be serious for a moment this is just a joke

 


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There are even more cosmetics on the way after the launch of Content Update 2, and even...

Wait, what are these? Why can’t I move? What’s going on here?

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Why didn't you listen! We could have prevented this! Oh god why! 


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I like the chassis with the lump on its face.  There could be some sweet paints you could make for it.  Like a giant malformed clit.

 

New cosmetics are good too.  Quit fartin around and put them on PC.


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...

With the PC relaunch, we have one opportunity to make a big impression on people.

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Gold words! Thank you, that you understand it!

 

I have a proposal for the "leaderboard": 

Its conclusions are not what that "one parameter statistics" on the screen. It is better to display the "group of interconnectivity parameters" that will be displayed on the screen, but the sorting is only "primary parameter" (which is selected from the drop-down list, such as "Kill via Mech A"). For example, together with "Kill via Mech A", would be displayed "Kill via Mech B" and "Kill via Mech C", but top-down sort would only "Kill via Mech A".

 

 

Example

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Oh fuzzy bunny, I get it! I thought that...

 

"Why can't I move? What's going on?"

 

...was just silly nonsense. It's not.

 

It's a clue to the mech ability!

 

 

Oh great, while "working on things" they somehow recreated the ancient ADH stunlock bug, and now have decided to implement it as a mech ability.


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Oh great, while "working on things" they somehow recreated the ancient ADH stunlock bug, and now have decided to implement it as a mech ability.

It's on the fuzzy bunnying EOCR + Corsair mech, I know it!


 

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Can I get a cockpit with a ton of those cool beer bottles just strewn all over the place? I need an accurate in-game depiction of how I play the game.

If you could make 'em rattle around when I get shot at and blown up, that'd be great too.


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That mech with Jobs chassis could be called...

Cyclops.

Now only to make a skin where the dome is colored as an eye.


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That mech with Jobs chassis could be called...

Cyclops.

Now only to make a skin where the dome is colored as an eye.


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... THE EYE OF SAURON !

Or that! This reminds me of the infamous HAL computer, which could also be an inspiration.

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... THE EYE OF SAURON !

 

 

I'd think it is more of a basilisk, personally...



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The new cosmetics are nice, may we have the baba-ji cockpit cosmetics next time ?

 

All credits to nepacaka

 

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I'd think it is more of a basilisk, personally...


So Jobs has some sort of mobility inhibiting ability or weapon?

Edited by Sriracha_Sauce, 16 November 2016 - 12:22 PM.

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So Jobs has some sort of mobility inhibiting ability or weapon?


Mobility inhibiting weapon.... now that sounds interesting ina Spider-Man sorta way.

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