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I haven't manually overclocked my cpu but I have intel turbo boost on so I'm at 4.4ghz load, but still get this weird thing where everything is 144 fine the first few minutes, then it drops and STAYS dropped at 90-110 afterwards. Weirdly enough, I'd go into the explore maps mode and it never goes past 120, but if I restart the game and go back into explore maps it'll be 144 until I get into the multiplayer servers for a few minutes. I know about the .ini settings and messed with that already. 

WTF is going on here?? I will provide video if I really need to. OC'ing my cpu might help?
Or can I blame the really bad game engine?
 



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The frame rate dropping after a few minutes is something I've seen a few people have. Since I can peg the meter at 144 pretty consistently with an almost identical setup its probably just a matter of figuring out what screwball setting is causing the issue. Maybe the 980ti isn't playing nice with the 480? 

 

Is the CPU staying at 4.4 all the time while in game? The turbo boost mode doesn't always stay at the maximum clock even when it seems like it should. I guess checking that and temps is the only thing I can think of (aside from running plastic hawken) as far as other possible solutions go.


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I haven't manually overclocked my cpu but I have intel turbo boost on so I'm at 4.4ghz load, but still get this weird thing where everything is 144 fine the first few minutes, then it drops and STAYS dropped at 90-110 afterwards. Weirdly enough, I'd go into the explore maps mode and it never goes past 120, but if I restart the game and go back into explore maps it'll be 144 until I get into the multiplayer servers for a few minutes. I know about the .ini settings and messed with that already. 

WTF is going on here?? I will provide video if I really need to. OC'ing my cpu might help?
Or can I blame the really bad game engine?
 

Post your whole config.ini for hawken (I forget which one), it's probably an issue in there somewhere. 

 

(also, do it under a spoiler. fuzzy bunny's long, yo)

 

EDIT: In light of nepacaka's comment, which I'm unsure about, make sure to check your fps both through Hawken and with an external client, like the Nvidia console.


Edited by Amidatelion, 15 April 2016 - 05:12 AM.


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as i know (maybe i'm wrong) U3 made 90 fps is maximum when you play in "online" mode (with other ppl). Even if you turn off "fps limit" through config, and game show you 150-200 - the real fps is not higher than 90.
this restriction is not working when you play in solo (training or map exploring, where you can get even 200+ fps with config)

this is why you have different fps numbers. it is also show me different fps in match. when i'm in hangar (being killed) i have 120, when i press "go" fps decrease to 80-90

 

i also notice, if i check my fps by other program, it is not match which fps i've got by "stat fps" command via console.


Edited by nepacaka, 15 April 2016 - 05:12 AM.

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Plastic hawken made it so much better. I just turned plastic hawken off on wednesday and its really hard to get used to normal hawken.


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as i know (maybe i'm wrong) U3 made 90 fps is maximum when you play in "online" mode (with other ppl). Even if you turn off "fps limit" through config, and game show you 150-200 - the real fps is not higher than 90.

I have not heard this before. So you are saying if you have the cap rate smoothed, its says 122 fps, online It is only actually 90? How is it possible if nvidia reports 122?


Edited by talon70, 15 April 2016 - 06:25 AM.


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I have not heard this before. So you are saying if you have the cap rate smoothed, its says 122 fps, online It is only actually 90? How is it possible if nvidia reports 122?

You have not heard of it before because it's not true.



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as i know (maybe i'm wrong) U3 made 90 fps is maximum when you play in "online" mode (with other ppl). 

 

The person who posts evidence to support this gets the most delicious digital cookie ever


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The person who posts evidence to support this gets the most delicious digital cookie ever

I just tested this. Not true.


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my friend on good authority says the human eye cannot detect anything past 30 fps


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my friend on good authority says the human eye cannot detect anything past 30 fps

Is this friend an ophthalmologist?


 

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Is this friend an ophthalmologist?

Crafty is being sarcastic.


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Crafty is being sarcastic.

 

You know how parks and boardwalks will have signs up that say, "please don't feed the birds?" It's not out of any real concern for their health, it's because a lot of them are irritating and they get complaints about the incessant squawking and shitting about.

 

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You know how parks and boardwalks will have signs up that say, "please don't feed the birds?"

The question mark goes after the quotes, amid.


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I usually have my capped at 120 but certain maps my frames drop to 40-50..I've noticed it in any server. I can be in Chicago servers with 20 ping and still have it happened. My card is pretty beefy and runs smooth on other games at max settings even bf4 on ultra everything. Hawken though kills my pc, performance and fps and always have to play at medium of low without my pc having a heart attack. Also mines overclocked already...so yea

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Now that I realize it, the only time I get above 50 fps is in the garage. 


 

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these are the settings i use. i never dip below 140. i have it capped at 143 because the screen starts tearing at 144.

 

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capped smooth frame rate is bugged. uncheking it caps fps at 90. sucks dude hope this helps

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Is this friend an ophthalmologist?

 

they also said they had on good authority Hawken was bought for $30,000.00 and is being ported to UE4


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I just tested this. Not true.

this is why i say "i'm not sure"
i see the information from different sources, and here the several opinions with many reason and proff of their theories. most of them looks "real" but without knowledge in U3 engine and programming it is hard to know.

but thing which i'm know, hawken give me different fps in online-mode and in solo-mode. how it working, i don't know 100%.


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I give up. I overclocked to 4.6, tried your settings hestoned, still dips to 90 when more than three people are dogfighting around me.
rip in peace jelooboi the g2raider pilot. 



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only thing i can think of next to do is try using CCleaner. its a free clean up tool for your computer. it will delete any old drivers or useless windows info. if that doesnt work maybe you can try reformatting your computer? just go with the nuclear option lol


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I was thinking about it...I do have ccleaner, now that you mentioned that, it has been a long time since I ran it.



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ctrl+F -> heat -> nothing found.

 

Really nobody even considered thermal troubles?



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ctrl+F -> heat -> nothing found.

 

Really nobody even considered thermal troubles?

 

 

I guess checking that and temps is the only thing I can think of (aside from running plastic hawken) as far as other possible solutions go.


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OH fuzzy bunny, IM GETTING 133 NOW. OKAY, COOL COOL. Thanks hestoned 



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only thing i can think of next to do is try using CCleaner. its a free clean up tool for your computer. it will delete any old drivers or useless windows info. if that doesnt work maybe you can try reformatting your computer? just go with the nuclear option lol

 

I noticed above from where you highlighted in your config files, your's says, ( MinSmoothedFrameRate = 59)

 

In checking mine, it says 5. Is there a reason for that and does that value make any difference in one's frame rate performance ?

 

My value for where you highlighted (MaxSmoothedFrameRate=120) ..... I'm averaging approx 100+ to 122 FPS,  which seem great for me.

 

The only real problems I seem to be getting are the (non-hit) registering problems at times with tows and such.

 

Thxxx for posting that information in the Hawken config settings.


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they also said they had on good authority Hawken was bought for $30,000.00 and is being ported to UE4

I never said anything pertaining to fps. Or UE4


 

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I give up. I overclocked to 4.6, tried your settings hestoned, still dips to 90 when more than three people are dogfighting around me.
rip in peace jelooboi the g2raider pilot. 

 

Just out of curiosity, are on on Windows 10 now?

 

I used to stay capped at my manual ini's cap of 120 FPS (use it with low persistence monitor instead of 144 Hz) back on Windows 7, but now things get really shitty for me, down to 60-50 FPS when 3-4 people are fighting in front of me, especially on maps like bazaar.  Apparently Windows 10 did away with proper DX9 and 10, and all the old instructions are being interpreted before being rendered, leading to a massive performance loss.

 

DX12 might run great, but there's not many DX12 games out yet, and I'm pretty sure all my older games have taken a hit since "upgrading".  I otherwise like Windows 10, and I won't be rolling back, but it just sucks that my framerates are so unstable now :/



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I noticed above from where you highlighted in your config files, your's says, ( MinSmoothedFrameRate = 59)

 

In checking mine, it says 5. Is there a reason for that and does that value make any difference in one's frame rate performance ?

 

My value for where you highlighted (MaxSmoothedFrameRate=120) ..... I'm averaging approx 100+ to 122 FPS,  which seem great for me.

 

The only real problems I seem to be getting are the (non-hit) registering problems at times with tows and such.

 

Thxxx for posting that information in the Hawken config settings.

 

idk dude that was the default value for me. only thing i touch in the ini files was the max fps value other than that its all vanilla


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OH fuzzy bunny, IM GETTING 133 NOW. OKAY, COOL COOL. Thanks hestoned 

 lol was that just running CCleaner XD?



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 lol was that just running CCleaner XD?

I don't know but I also overclocked to 4.7 right after I ran it 

133fps average, that's close. The dream day though of running 250fps with a 0 latency monitor. ~~~"I have a dream"

Thanks for the help again. Guess some scouts are okay.

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I need to maintain 50 fps, let along 144 :/


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why must one have 144 fps ? Do you feel the game runs any less smooth if you computer is showing any less ?


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I played saturday at 30fps after messing something up. It started after overclocking gpu and other nvidia settings nothing in the ini files. The screen then froze while playing, and even after putting everything back it was still stuck at 20-30fps when i tried to play. It was no fun and really unplayable. I think maybe the card itself got glitched as rebooting a few times later that night returned my frames. Maybe I never powered down just restarted all day and it took a power down to fix it idk.



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The question mark goes after the quotes, amid.

 

No it's actually more of a question in plea, rather than a demand. Nobody takes signs seriously, all sign makers know this. It's a really depressing profession.


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Hestoned, I tried your settings and it made a big improvement.  Thanks.



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why must one have 144 fps ? Do you feel the game runs any less smooth if you computer is showing any less ?

 

its like going from 240p to blueray. the difference in quality is so massive that you can never go back. after getting a 144hz monitor i can no longer enjoy garbage 24fps movies in theaters anymore. whenever the camera pans over a scene i just want to vomit and slit my throat. i pitty those that have not seen the light


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its like going from 240p to blueray. the difference in quality is so massive that you can never go back. after getting a 144hz monitor i can no longer enjoy garbage 24fps movies in theaters anymore. whenever the camera pans over a scene i just want to vomit and slit my throat. i pitty those that have not seen the light

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i pitty those that have not seen the light

 

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why must one have 144 fps ? Do you feel the game runs any less smooth if you computer is showing any less ?

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