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capnjosh

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We've updated the "MMR Expansion Time" to be shorter - 30 seconds down from 5 minutes.  This is actually the value it was when we first started operating Hawken.  It had been increased over time as attempts to reduce the MMR spread seen in servers.  Obviously, this has seen mixed results.  Last week we made a change that removes the randomness with which the MatchMaker could choose match for you in the case where it had to start widening its MMR search criteria.

 

If you enter the MatchMaker queue with a very high MMR, so high that there are no suitable matches at the time, the MatchMaker slowly grows the acceptable MMR range that it considers suitable for you.  Now, you should generally be matched to a server at the highest-suitable MMR range.  Given last week's MatchMaker change, the MMR expansion time can be signficantly lowered while having the same or better result.

 

There will still of course be "imperfect" matches, so by no means is this considered "solved".  We'll be watching the MMR spreads over the next week or so, and I'll issue updates as we see any patterns develop.  Still, we want your anecdotal experience.  You should see shorter queue times if you have a very high MMR, and you should be placed into the highest-available-MMR matches (some matches may not be accepting new players, so sometimes you'll see a "better" server out there, but if it was not accepting new players when the MatchMaker was considering your queue request, it would not be able to put you in there).

 


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There will still of course be "imperfect" matches, so by no means is this considered "solved". 

 

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Thanks for the update Josh! It's great to hear you're tweaking things for us.


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Let's see how many people complain  about uneven matches at the end of the week

EDIT: forgot to say, thanks for the update


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let them complain. it's the only way for reloaded to know if stuff works or in that case if it doesn't.



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Does he mean it takes 4 minutes and 30 seconds for it to actually tell me there are no available matches or only 30 seconds?



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Does he mean it takes 4 minutes and 30 seconds for it to actually tell me there are no available matches or only 30 seconds?



The latter. I like this change since i no longer have to spend so much time simply trying to get into a server.

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Oh dang, so I can't play a Hearthstone match anymore while Hawken is MM me? Awww.

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Oh dang, so I can't play a Hearthstone match anymore while Hawken is MM me? Awww.

 

What are you talking about?

 

30 seconds is enough time for me to beat you. :P


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What are you talking about?

 

30 seconds is enough time for me to beat you. :P

 

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most of the matches iv been in have been pretty good, though i did end up in one with a 1250 to 2650 spread, average of 1600, deviation was 400, sooo, it sucked, but other than that its been good for me.


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The MMR expansion time is OK, you don't have to wait to find some game.

 

But is it possible to test a Mech selection restriction to a CRT-Recruit without internals and without Items when joining a lower level PvP server ? I think that this could have 2 advantages : maybe a lower stomping than playing with your favorite Mech and limit the time good players are camping in a lower level server.


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Matches that become 1500-2850 are horrible for new player retention. The newer pilots this problem affects have no idea about mmr or how matchmaking works. Why not put the pilot's mmr out in the open next to the pilot name?

 

 

If at some time we are actually recruiting new pilots to the game, lower mmr should have their own matches imo.



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This has been a great help to the high mmr club, thanks Josh.

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Didn't know that was a club.  :blink:

 

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Didn't know that was a club.  :blink:

 

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