Pilots, I seek your knowledge about the Initiate Vanguard Vanguard Initiative (before Iguana err Tickle err PickleMyAlligator has an OCD seizure) and maxing out cupcake to unlock other features. Please educate me :)
Vanguard Initiative - Maxing out cupcake?
#1
Posted 24 April 2015 - 07:22 PM
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#2
Posted 24 April 2015 - 07:30 PM
As far as I remember, the Cupcake has no unlocks or service awards aside from its own elite skin (Jaffa). It's a separate mech from the Vanguard, but has the same stats. Using a Cupcake will not contribute towards any Vanguard service awards.
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#3
Posted 24 April 2015 - 09:33 PM
Anyone in the vanguard initiative has a vanguard (initiate) mech with cupcake and cupcake elite chassis. There is also the Jaffa chassis (body only) that was added. In summary, that is a complete cupcake body, a complete elite cupcake body, and a Jaffa middle chassis.
I hope more exclusive chassis come in the future. it's really cool to have a limited edition chassis, even if more special things come along later. Typing words is fun.
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#4
Posted 24 April 2015 - 10:47 PM
Whoops, wrong thread.
Edited by Xacius, 24 April 2015 - 11:56 PM.
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#5
Posted 24 April 2015 - 11:25 PM
Anyone in the highest tier of the vanguard initiative has a vanguard (initiate) mech with cupcake and cupcake elite chassis. There is also the Jaffa chassis (body only) that was added. In summary, that is a complete cupcake body, a complete elite cupcake body, and a Jaffa middle chassis.
I hope more exclusive chassis come in the future. it's really cool to have a limited edition chassis, even if more special things come along later. Typing words is fun.
FTFY
Also, the ethernet adapter* there forgot to mention the thrusters, repair drone, skin(s), and pilot emblem(s). If someone bought the highest tier, they also got a bunch of MC and their 'name' in the credits, which is why this exists:

I actually found a mirror of the post from hugs_, one of the former community managers (along with my first post in the thread
)
http://geightcommuni...til-december-6/
Send me a friend request in game and I'll be more than happy to meet up in a server and show mine off. ![]()
You know, I kind of wonder if anyone actually did buy any of the lower tiers...
*Linux joke if anyone is wondering. ![]()
Edited by bacon_avenger, 24 April 2015 - 11:34 PM.
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#6
Posted 25 April 2015 - 04:05 AM
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Edited by oSPANNERo, 25 April 2015 - 04:09 AM.
http://hawken.mirror...primary-weapon/
#7
Posted 25 April 2015 - 04:08 AM
As far as I remember, the Cupcake has no unlocks or service awards aside from its own elite skin (Jaffa). It's a separate mech from the Vanguard, but has the same stats. Using a Cupcake will not contribute towards any Vanguard service awards.
So I guess the question comes down to, since the "Initiate Vanguard"/Cupcake and the "Vanguard" are functionally the same mech just with different cosmetics, ***should*** activities in the Cupcake contribute to the Vanguard specific service awards?
IMHO: *Yes*, as they are fundamentally the same mech. (If the Cupcake was functionally different from all other mechs I would not feel this way.) Lending further credence to this is the fact you can equip the Cupcake chassis on a newly purchased Vanguard.

http://hawken.mirror...primary-weapon/
#8
Posted 25 April 2015 - 05:13 AM
The Vanguard Initiative bundles were sold around November of 2012 prior to the release of the open beta in mid December of 2012. You can read about the contents in this article:
http://www.gamerhub....ken/2012/11/26/
Part of these bundles was a "Prototype Mech" originally called the "Vanguard Cupcake" and later renamed "Initiate Vanguard". This mech was entirely exclusive at the beginning and made later available for everybody as the "Vanguard". It is the exact same mech in terms of stats and mechanics, but with a different look. They do not share the same progression. The Initiate Vanguard unlocks a "legacy achievement" that gives no points. The "Jaffa" paint for the Initiate Vanguard was released much later after the "art chassis pieces" where introduced. The Initiate Vanguard does not unlock anything special.
Edited by nanocage, 25 April 2015 - 05:15 AM.
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#9
Posted 25 April 2015 - 10:18 AM
FTFY
Also, the ethernet adapter* there forgot to mention the thrusters, repair drone, skin(s), and pilot emblem(s). If someone bought the highest tier, they also got a bunch of MC and their 'name' in the credits, which is why this exists:
You know, I kind of wonder if anyone actually did buy any of the lower tiers...
*Linux joke if anyone is wondering.
I completely forgot about the recruit tier. I ended up going for silver. Pulled this image from the russian wiki:
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Pubstomping is a whole different strategic discussion, however, and usually just becomes an exploration of the ethics of dumpstering randos.

Why mech game make when you no mech game have you don't want to make?
#10
Posted 25 April 2015 - 11:42 AM
I purchased the Commander package...best $75 value for 60 bucks ever.
Hope Reloaded Will implement more special offers of this kind in the future.
Having limited edition mechs like this is a great way to encourage people to spend cash and have something really special for doing so.
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#11
Posted 27 April 2015 - 06:53 AM
#12
Posted 27 April 2015 - 09:51 AM
I purchased the Commander package...best $75 value for 60 bucks ever.
Hope Reloaded Will implement more special offers of this kind in the future.
Having limited edition mechs like this is a great way to encourage people to spend cash and have something really special for doing so.
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this please ;-; i still regret not getting it so long ago :c
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#13
Posted 27 April 2015 - 10:49 AM
Please keep in mind that Hugs' posts were edit AFTER people had purchased the VI packages. So what you see in ADH posts about what the VI package entails isn't exactly the same as what people agreed to buy.
Also, please never try to do something like this:

So basically, don't go back on your word and try to make exclusives that people paid for with real money not-exclusive. (This push by Vance turned into a long thread where we finally managed to get ADH to can this terrible idea.)
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Posted 27 April 2015 - 09:41 PM
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#15
Posted 28 April 2015 - 09:15 AM
Oh. I forgot to mention.
Originally the Cupcake was supposed to be an exclusive mech. Not just a chassis, but an entire class locked behind a paywall. Obviously, that's not a good thing and the community was able to convince ADH to go in the direction that has been explained above.
So yeah.
Exclusive gameplay-affecting things = Bad
Exclusive cosmetics = Good
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