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Edited by Silverfire, 26 September 2016 - 09:56 PM.

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i have nearly 41 smurfs. jus because. fun


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i think i know who that is. and i must say nice meme sir nice meme.


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i think i know who that is. and i must say nice meme sir nice meme.

 

I also know air 180 is not a hack 

 

air 180 is an extremely edgy internal that allows the user to break jump pad launches without the expense of 3 internal slots

 

air 180 is an extremely useful internal that allows players to attack player behind them if the user has a stuck spacebar

 

air 180 is an extremely fashionable internal that allows players to be gimmicky, non-meta, highly skilled, and awe-inspiring

 

 

air 180 is a way of life


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dis guy made 705 "180's", ban him! hax!
 


Edited by nepacaka, 27 September 2016 - 12:36 AM.

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to be honest, i also don't like that compress and 180 broke jumpers. looking bad and should be fixed, like added some inertion power which push you up :P
and a bug with airdodges are not consume fuel if you use it after jumper


Edited by nepacaka, 27 September 2016 - 12:32 AM.

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Air 180 might be the most underrated internal


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I forgot who used to rock air 180 on his raider ... way before it was cool.


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I think I know who that smurf is too. And good for him; I think he is right to protest. And smurf.
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Having looked into the issue and seen all of the "evidence" against the player in question, I can state with certainty that he wasn't hacking.  

 

The reality of the matter is that a bunch of mid-to-low tier players became frustrated—for one reason or another—and accused him of hacking/banned him from the Hawken TS because it was the easier thing to do.  


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Having looked into the issue and seen all of the "evidence" against the player in question, I can state with certainty that he wasn't hacking.  

 

The reality of the matter is that a bunch of mid-to-low tier players became frustrated—for one reason or another—and accused him of hacking/banned him from the Hawken TS because it was the easier thing to do.  

 

I've seen the evidence too, the video taken by another player, and to me it is highly inconclusive as well regarding the player in question. I was in some of those matches and saw nothing particularly damning at all.  No specific evidence that exists currently, aside from the fact that the player in question has had an account banned by RLD in the past for exploiting.

 

However, it is not my place to contest the ban, unban, etc. Not part of my powers/responsibilities on HKTS.


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Said player approached me, but I declined to judge.


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The whole situation seems like a big spiel of misinformation and misinterpretation to me. Some people made a (not particularly) wild claim that was supported by inconclusive evidence. 


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Some people made a (not particularly) wild claim that was supported by inconclusive evidence. 

 

The good ol' ad-hawkenim logical fallacy


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I've seen the evidence too, the video taken by another player, and to me it is highly inconclusive as well regarding the player in question. I was in some of those matches and saw nothing particularly damning at all.  No specific evidence that exists currently, aside from the fact that the player in question has had an account banned by RLD in the past for exploiting.

 

However, it is not my place to contest the ban, unban, etc. Not part of my powers/responsibilities on HKTS.

Banning a suspected player from one of the only voice servers remaining for the game isn't significant standalone, but it can become a problem if enough players think that it's alright to keep doing.  My issue is that the community is small enough as it is.  Banning someone from inconclusive evidence is unnecessary, and ultimately makes the community even smaller.  


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Hopefully RLD will get around to getting in-game voice chat to work on the PC version of Hawken so that TS won't be required for voice communications while playing Hawken.  

 

But, that's all I have to say, thread looks too close to a name and shame thread to me to comment further.



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It was my understand another form of hacking involves adjusting mech stats. Like making a scout fuel tank bigger, ect. I'm not sure if this is truth or opinion but it always makes me wonder when I know someone isn't an aimbot but something ain't right.
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I've heard the same rumors Wm........and of adjusting the armor stats. God I hate lazy ppl. Just  play the game.


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those stats cant be hacked from client side the server would override changes

scouts sometimes appear to have limitless fuel but thats only appearances, infact they arent infinite they just have alot of skill and know the tricky moves


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those stats cant be hacked from client side the server would override changes

 

^Well, that's what we've been told... but there's been plenty of evidence to the contrary.  There was even a video a couple of years ago showing a party of players in Freds, all below level 10, who could not be taken below 1 health point - despite a whole teams efforts.   And other videos showing obvious speed hacks, unlimited fuel, etc., have also been captured.


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^Well, that's what we've been told... but there's been plenty of evidence to the contrary. There was even a video a couple of years ago showing a party of players in Freds, all below level 10, who could not be taken below 1 health point - despite a whole teams efforts. And other videos showing obvious speed hacks, unlimited fuel, etc., have also been captured.


Exactly, it wasn't too long ago that our favorite hacker was rolling around in a assault that moved like a blitzing raider unlimited. I don't think overheated either.
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 TIL the only utility of the air 180 internal is getting banned from TS


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 TIL the only utility of the air 180 internal is getting banned from TS

 

 

not surprised I haven't been banned yet then because I love me some air 180


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you guys must be running outta spoons...

 

i mean seriously, bite the bait and all...

 


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i mean seriously, bite the bait and all...

 

 And yet, here you are.


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>Sharpshooter as a main
That's the problem. Point and click adventure mech. Scum.

Sharpshooters have no honor and no place in Hawken 


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Sharpshooters have no honor and no place in Hawken 

What is an honor and how do i get one?


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>Sharpshooter as a main
That's the problem. Point and click adventure mech. Scum.

Sharpshooters have no honor and no place in Hawken 

 

I would say the same about G2R, but I have a giggle problem when I play Gren, so I will let your... ilk... slide.


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What is an honor and how do i get one?

 

You play Scout, and kill Sharpshooters.


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You play Scout, and kill Sharpshooters.

so what i do normally?


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But with attention and  dedication to your principles and your craft. That is honor.


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 And yet, here you are.

I might point out that i showed record restraint in this case so let the bunny go and stop fuzzying with my heart because im not satisfied...

 

 

i needs the content..

 

this thrivile dance means little


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 No specific evidence that exists currently, aside from the fact that the player in question has had an account banned by RLD in the past for exploiting.

 

 

It is my understanding that the ONLY reason that the HKTS ban was upheld was based on the fact that the player had an account banned by Reloaded previously and should have been banned from the HKTS when that happened. 

 

Since my stream was used as "evidence", I want to state that I also saw no evidence of hacking and point out that I believe I stated such in the stream.  I started streaming because when I hopped in the match everyone was complaining about a hacker.  I offered the video ONLY to show when the accused player left the match and then returned in another account shortly after. 

 

That player was lurking in the same channel in the HKTS the entire time they were being accused of hacking in that match and said NOTHING.  When they logged back in on another account, they started communicating in TS as though they just arrived and had no knowledge of what was going on, never mentioning that they were the accused hacker.  Why so secret?

 

The shady and inconsiderate behavior (both during the matches in question and on several other occasions) of the accused obviously did not help the matter. 


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That player was lurking in the same channel in the HKTS the entire time they were being accused of hacking in that match and said NOTHING.  When they logged back in on another account, they started communicating in TS as though they just arrived and had no knowledge of what was going on, never mentioning that they were the accused hacker.  Why so secret?

 

 

 

Another past incident that mirrored the situation I quoted has happened before in the HKTS with a hacker, which is why we now have certain policies in place.


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air 180 is bad and your bad if you use it
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What is this Air 180 that you speak of? Is it made my Nike or Adidas?


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It is my understanding that the ONLY reason that the HKTS ban was upheld was based on the fact that the player had an account banned by Reloaded previously and should have been banned from the HKTS when that happened. 

Not sure if I'd trust reloaded on a player ban unless their blatant hacking were verifiable through evidence.  Again, would need to see the actual evidence.  



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I think...

 

maybe what was implied here is that his biggest hack was purposely getting into a game on an unknown smurf and playing dodgy like trying to get hackusations and laughing about it behind players backs...

 

no one likes to be made a fool of really...

 

pretty douche move imo


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