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Look. I'm not trying to sound salty. I've wanted HAWKEN to be the game of games. It had so much promise. It was well polished for a Beta.

What concerns me, and don't get me wrong as I do love Josh's enthusiasm, but this feels like another G1 game. G1, Reloaded, K2, whatever has a habit of buying games, promising the world, and doing very little in the way of improving the game.

4 years ago I started playing APB. I love APB. I still play it. That speaks loudly for what Real Time Worlds was able to accomplish. Not Reloaded. In 4 years we've gotten new guns that we pay real money for. One new car, the 4 slot version of which is locked behind a $40 purchase that comes with meh guns and okay clothes. A slew of RNG boxes you pay real money for. Asylum, something Reloaded did not make was released full time. We have recieved no new maps, no new missions, no guns you can earn in game, 1 new contact, and an engine upgrade that is reported to be completed soon and was promised to us back in August and has been in the works for at least as long as I've been playing.

Hawken seems to be falling into much the same. Why is Reloaded the only studio that can't seem to get people to work for them? They say they're a small studio. Cool. So is Muse games and in two years we got a new Zep, 2 new maps, 2 new match types, a functionjing clan system with progression, a company ran tournament and serious eyes from MLG. They stay in constant communication and they don't put timetables up.

If you could just do what Muse does, we would be golden. I'm curious what everyone else thinks.

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Ok.

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Ok.

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Ok.


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Ok.

Pubstomping is a whole different strategic discussion, however, and usually just becomes an exploration of the ethics of dumpstering randos.

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Ok.

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I think the consensus on feedback is... Ok. I don't think reloaded has had the game for longer than a year. Imagine having to go in and learn everything from the bottom up then try to fix the current problems, then come up with new maps and mechs AND increase turret damage. Long story short, let's put the technical and perceptional mountain they have to climb here in prospective and give them a little patience.

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The ONE moderately well-thought-out 'Hawken is doomed' post, and you guys respond with less input than when you humor the sodium chloride incarnate keyboard warriors.
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I'd start worrying when they start selling RNG boxes. Seems every F2P developer has a hard-on for those these days.



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Okie dokes

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I'll play this game till the end, whether or not they actually add new content. I'm just happy it still exists.
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Look. I'm not trying to sound salty. I've wanted HAWKEN to be the game of games. It had so much promise. It was well polished for a Beta.

What concerns me, and don't get me wrong as I do love Josh's enthusiasm, but this feels like another G1 game. G1, Reloaded, K2, whatever has a habit of buying games, promising the world, and doing very little in the way of improving the game.

4 years ago I started playing APB. I love APB. I still play it. That speaks loudly for what Real Time Worlds was able to accomplish. Not Reloaded. In 4 years we've gotten new guns that we pay real money for. One new car, the 4 slot version of which is locked behind a $40 purchase that comes with meh guns and okay clothes. A slew of RNG boxes you pay real money for. Asylum, something Reloaded did not make was released full time. We have recieved no new maps, no new missions, no guns you can earn in game, 1 new contact, and an engine upgrade that is reported to be completed soon and was promised to us back in August and has been in the works for at least as long as I've been playing.

Hawken seems to be falling into much the same. Why is Reloaded the only studio that can't seem to get people to work for them? They say they're a small studio. Cool. So is Muse games and in two years we got a new Zep, 2 new maps, 2 new match types, a functionjing clan system with progression, a company ran tournament and serious eyes from MLG. They stay in constant communication and they don't put timetables up.

If you could just do what Muse does, we would be golden. I'm curious what everyone else thinks.

 

You do know your audience right?  It could be a year from now with nothing changed and you'd likely still get the same response.  If nothing else, you have a bunch of people here who, when it comes to the developers of the game they love, their patience is amazing.


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giving them the benefit of the doubt until they add things that provide an advantage for only real money 

 

if that happens it's all over for this pilot BUT until then i am more than happy to enjoy this game for what it is


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What's going to happen will happen. We're just the playerbase who've come along for the ride.


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Affirmative.


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I'll play this game till the end, whether or not they actually add new content. I'm just happy it still exists.

 

 

giving them the benefit of the doubt until they add things that provide an advantage for only real money 

 

if that happens it's all over for this pilot BUT until then i am more than happy to enjoy this game for what it is

 

Amen. Nothing more to add here really, hence the 'Ok'


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I don't mind if they are SLOW or what, but the attitude hasn't been very encouraging. 

 

--Josh is so busy that he doesn't even have time to login to our forums. Does he eat? sleep? alive(Haha yeah you've heard this)?

 

They seriously could just post "Sry we're having trouble solve something something, and we have nothing updated this time." Every once in a while, instead of seasonally: "Sooommthing Biiig Is COMING!! This is a big year! Let us get excited!!!"

 

But look at the weekly update we had? Aight is now a "dev's update", I think we should be thankful that is not an "Olympically update".

 

Cant say I like the game's current state, but I think I'll stay to the end of this. For the love&respect of EARLY TRAILERS.

 

Last but not least:

 

Copy that.


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I don't mind if they are SLOW or what, but the attitude hasn't been very encouraging. 

 

--Josh is so busy that he doesn't even have time to login to our forums. Does he eat? sleep? alive(Haha yeah you've heard this)?

 

They seriously could just post "Sry we're having trouble solve something something, and we have nothing updated this time." Every once in a while, instead of seasonally: "Sooommthing Biiig Is COMING!! This is a big year! Let us get excited!!!"

 

But look at the weekly update we had? Aight is now a "dev's update", I think we should be thankful that is not an "Olympically update".

 

Cant say I like the game's current state, but I think I'll stay to the end of this. For the love&respect of EARLY TRAILERS.

 

Last but not least:

 

Copy that.

Yeah, I agree I mean If development has only been going full out for a month or so then yeah, there probably isn't much they can comment on that they know will make it into an update.  Several different things are surely being worked on at the same time but who knows what is going to not make the cut or not get finished in time for the first update.  If you say you are working on a G2 Predator and something delays it or causes you to start over in design people are gona be pissed.

 

Having said that though they (Josh) does need to chime in more.  I specifically remember reading that after the holidays we were gona get introduced to some new team members after the holidays.  If you say you are gona do something then you better do it... otherwise you get discouraged fans and threads like this.....


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KO

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Yeah they need to get a step up on the whole "not abandoning the playerbase" thing

 

 

Seriously though how hard is it to say "yo we exist" once a week


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OK's aside, I would definitely appreciate improved communication from Reloaded.  Not that hard, and would alleviate a lot of these concerns.


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