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I'm noticing some disturbing trends in these "lower MMR" matches of mine that I don't like, and they are starting to turn me off from playing anymore.  Can any of you skilled Vets tell me if this would still happen if I joined 1 Star matches instead?  (My own MMR is high 1500s btw).

 

1)  Smurfs - Let me be blunt.  I'm sick of all the smurfs pretending to be new players and stomping us unskilled players.  600 points, no deaths, "First day!"  Yeah,....right.  I'd rather be pounded by honest 2300 MMR players than liars.

 

2)  "Readying up" issues.  Even a dummy like me now knows to wait for an even number of players before starting a match.  Unfortunately no one "down here" listens to me, so we start off with unbalanced matches.  Is this any different in higher tier games?

 

3) Hellfire spam.  I kept asking this last night - Are hellfires the new "meta"?  I am so tired of being in a match where 4 of the 6 enemies are bruisers or rocketeers.  Yeah, I can dodge ONE hellfire salvo, but not 4 in succession.  I'm sorry but this seems like such a low skill, cheap weapon.  Is there more mech diversity in higher tier matches?  (And if its not Hellfires, its Sabot rifles.)

 

4) All the Heavies.  If its not Rocketeer in these lower matches its Incinerator, then Vanguard, then Brawler, etc.  This is only a personal gripe, because I like 1-shotting enemies with my Predator, and these mechs are just SO FAT.  Are there fewer heavies in higher tier matches?

 

5) Players leaving matches, during and afterward.  YES I do this too, mainly because everyone else is.  We start losing, someone quits, it gets worse for us, someone else quits, it gets worse.  Frankly I usually bail at this time.  Its not like we can actually win at this point no matter who switches/joins (and the best enemy players rarely switch in these lower matches, I have noticed).  Then, at the end of the match, maybe SIX of the 11 or 12 who stayed to the end actually continue to the next match, making for a less than full forum and encouraging another unbalanced match.  (Again, I usually bail at this point too.  I'd much rather join a full match.)  Are these problems any better in the higher tier matches?

 

6) Players allowing MM to place them, and THEN leaving.  This TOTALLY screws up MM if I understand it right.  Did they just want to be on one player's team so badly that they'll quit if they don't get placed with them?  Does this happen a lot in higher matches?

 

These are the main issues for me right now.  I'm just hoping that I can find better, more even matches "higher up", and that those people also tend to hang around.  Now, because I am low skill a lot of Vets probably don't want me around, and our team will be more likely to lose with me on it.  But with Predator I can (hopefully) keep my deaths to a minimum.

 

Thanks for your feedback.



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I played in a smurf with you last week. You're not as unskilled as you think you are.
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Joining the "1-Star" matches is the best idea if you want more of a challenge. 

 

1. Smurfs are almost a fact of life at your level. Usually, smurfs of good players will have their mmr skyrocket after enough matches, I think, as I don't see that many smurfs around 1900. 

 

2. People want to play, and the MM is better at its job than you make it out to be. If your team has fewer players, then the players on your team have a higher mmr than the players on the other team, so the averages stay the same. However, Other players will join later, and they will be put on the smaller team, which the MM cannot handle. 

 

3. Hellfire spam is more manageable, as the number of Brusiers and Rocketeers decreases dramatically when they get shredded by the Raiders. 

 

4. The higher you get, the fatter you get. 

 

5. Unless something is implemented, there is no effective way to prevent people from leaving

 

6. This. You aren't the only one. 


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1. I don't smurf but I have to intentionally lower my MMR to be able to join a match at all if I do not want to use the MM but it is okay-ish to wait for a couple of minutes. However, any game having soem kind of MM also has smurfs as sometimes the vets simply do not want to put effort in their games but still don't get stomped so they smurf.

 

2. I don't want to wait for an even number. Ready up FFS it is quite common that a 4v5 is doable. 

 

3. The meta is hitscan-sustained. Assault as it is incredible easy to use and beginner friendly while having the power of every other mech in the game (imbalanced AF if you'd ask me).

 

4. C-stacking is also a common thing, mainly because the mobility difference between the classes are low (unless you are using a Brawler ...) while the defensive differences are high.

 

5. Leaving is a basic thing. I refuse to carry a team full of noobs. I require atleast one half-way decent player in my team (by definition: KDR of 1.5 or better in TDM) but quite often I get matched with all the noobs stacked in my team and all the other half-way devent players on the other team. As I rarely stay with my team since I know tehy just draw the enemy's attent to me, I backstab and pick up some kills, cotnributing to the overall team score. This has been proven several times to be effective. 

But long story short: Give me average teammates or experience yet another unbalanced game as the only carry leaves.

 

6. I do it vice versa. Wait for the MM to match up teams and THEN joining so I have a 100% chance to be in one of two equal teams so I can relax and just shoot without the need to put effort in that. Manipulating the MM ftw. 

Sorry but I ain't got time for being social. Get better or get out :]

 

 

This game is screwed up and this won't change, not even soonTM. Reloaded has done nothing so far apart from reviving Hawken or keeping it alive while it suffers from alot of diseases.

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What's the Raider loadout to "shred" these Hellfire users?  I'd actually like to try that :)


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What would "Playing with the big boys" get me?

 

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What's the Raider loadout to "shred" these Hellfire users?  I'd actually like to try that :)

Unless it's a Vulcan Bruiser, Mechs with Hellfires are very bad at close range, and Raider can quickly close the distance and beat Rocketeers or Buisers since their weapons aren't as effective at close range. People who use those mechs also like to fly. Flying is slower than walking, so you can land your shots easier than if they were on the ground and dodging around. 


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What's the Raider loadout to "shred" these Hellfire users?  I'd actually like to try that :)

 

Any one that doesn't have an EOC repeater pretty much. Some combination of deflectors and fuel converter with a garnish of your choice is pretty popular. I'm partial to Reflak myself, but the T32 is also an excellent weapon.

 

I would point out that the requisite skill to counter hellfires is much more abundant the higher you go, so hellfire mechs will have much more trouble spamming. This is also true to some degree of tech+heavy combos. 


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Yeah I've already written about the tech+heavy combo abuse (especially Incin).  I personally hate Tech and have decided to not even play in those matches anymore.  But I digress ...



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Yeah I've already written about the tech+heavy combo abuse (especially Incin). I personally hate Tech and have decided to not even play in those matches anymore. But I digress ...


You are not as unskilled as you think you are.

BTW, I'm playing my four oldest alts in rotation, all 2150 or higher.

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You are not as unskilled as you think you are.

BTW, I'm playing my four oldest alts in rotation, all 2150 or higher.

 

I played in a smurf with you last week. You're not as unskilled as you think you are.

 

Guys, can you please not? He's not good, and he plays for fun and with no desire to spend hours improving. He's going to get wrecked, just in completely different ways.

  1. You're going to get pounded anyway. There are going to be smurfs everywhere, all of which will be lying to some degree or another. We just don't give a fuzzy bunny above 2k and most of us know who they are anyways.
  2. This has actually been changing. I know a lot of TANG and other players I know wait for even teams to ready up, so I would say yes, there is a higher chance of people listening and waiting.
  3. Hellfires don't usually get used at higher levels because they are bad. That being said there's enough mixture of lower players and free rotation that there are still gonna be people using them. You will absolutely be annihilated by sabots though, sorry. 
  4. No. 
  5. It's a mess. Most actually skilled players stick around once they get into a match with other good players, but those people matched with them that aren't tend to bail because of the rekt.
  6. Haven't really noticed. We joke a lot about how games are going to turn out though. Like if its devotion vs 3 people at my tier we all go "welp, time to die." And then try to outfarm him because his entire team will probably be scrubs.

One final point is that at sufficiently high tier no one cares, specifically, how bad you are. You are either a teammate or a statistic.


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What would "Playing with the big boys" get me?

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Sidenote, I fully endorse your evolution from pred main to raider. 


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The only reason for you to play with better players would be if you wanted to get better. cuz u gonna git riggity rekt son.


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Play scout n raider.  Go Fast


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my thinking is very one dimensional, none of those feelings gets processed while playing hawken anymore

 

1st rule:

shoot the tow rocket and hope i get the better end of the stick.  lol

 

2nd rule:

hope you don't die more than  you kill

 

3rd rule:

rinse and repeat while enjoying the graphics

 

 

i hope you feel better, kittens.


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If you are going join higher matches, you will get shredded a lot, though, if persistent you will in theory improve even through osmosis, at which point returning to your old matches will give you an easier time in theory. Still theory though.


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you were playing in a match with me playing a scout yesterday on bunker, I killed you twice while you played the predator and you quit the game. My advice is stay till the end of every match you play.

I know this sounds rubbish, but almost all of us learned how to take the hard knocks to learn how to get better at the game. if your technique isn't good enough, you have to adapt. The predator is phenomenally good at shutting down light targets, your mech choice was solid, It's just the wealth of experience that i have that beat you.

I faced Daronicus in like my third match of playing the game, I never saw a score that high. but you know what, something about seeing the guy in action made me want to get as good as him and i played game after game of being annihilated by Daronicus and little by little i started to feel like i was getting better and better.. man.. It seems so long ago... but my point is, if you stay in a game with a bunch of veterans, if you stay in a game with me no less, just facing me will teach you things you can't learn against the inexperienced, your focus being, how the hell do i kill that guy?!

 

Even facing a tech, you can beat it. anyone can beat it. take two shots with an SS double shot, Raider the poor guy, hit him with two partially direct tows and some sustained, techs are far from unbeatable.

 

Stay till the end.

and frankly anyone who says or thinks you're a detriment to their team can shove it, every player is valued by me, this game needs to survive and it's players like you that will get us there. 


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Guys, can you please not? He's not good, and he plays for fun and with no desire to spend hours improving. He's going to get wrecked, just in completely different ways.

  1. You're going to get pounded anyway. There are going to be smurfs everywhere, all of which will be lying to some degree or another. We just don't give a fuzzy bunny above 2k and most of us know who they are anyways.
  2. This has actually been changing. I know a lot of TANG and other players I know wait for even teams to ready up, so I would say yes, there is a higher chance of people listening and waiting.
  3. Hellfires don't usually get used at higher levels because they are bad. That being said there's enough mixture of lower players and free rotation that there are still gonna be people using them. You will absolutely be annihilated by sabots though, sorry. 
  4. No. 
  5. It's a mess. Most actually skilled players stick around once they get into a match with other good players, but those people matched with them that aren't tend to bail because of the rekt.
  6. Haven't really noticed. We joke a lot about how games are going to turn out though. Like if its devotion vs 3 people at my tier we all go "welp, time to die." And then try to outfarm him because his entire team will probably be scrubs.

One final point is that at sufficiently high tier no one cares, specifically, how bad you are. You are either a teammate or a statistic.

 

And this is why we cant have nice comments...

 

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Kittens, a lot of your issues above are just how things are. Smurfs are smurfs. That 2300+ player who is good with a lot of different mechs? They didn't learn those tricks on that account and maintain that high mmr. Oh well, no reason to waste any more time contemplating it. Readying up is what it is, people are impatient. Stay in that room long enough and that issue will stabilize. Which brings me to quiting. You do this ALOT I've noticed. I suggest being the solution not the problem on this one. Stick it out, some of my best matches were ones where initially we were getting slaughtered but grit, some luck and THE RAIDEROSITY prevailed in the end. Hellfires can be indeed problematic, which is why knowing your surroundings is crucial here. They can't hit you if you've got a wall in boosting distance, which as a pred you should have close by anyways. Nothing wrong with C classes, play to their weaknesses not strengths - if you think in a pred you're going to have a lot of success going heads up with one you should think again.

I suggest you put playing for the fun on the tippy top of your priority list. I've been playing for roughly a year. Every time my interest starts to go south I pick up a new mech and blamo: recharged to crunch metal. It's because I put having fun as my number 1 objective. I don't scrim, I'm not in a clan or hang with the cool kids and I make a TON of poor decisions but I'm decent enough to cause even the best some occasional headaches. "Ohhh lets see what kind of trouble I can get out of, that seems like fun". This is a powerful mind set to get around the road blocks (hellfires, smudge, c classes ect ect) you're putting up for your progression.
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I know this sounds rubbish, but almost all of us learned how to take the hard knocks to learn how to get better at the game. 

 

 

He plays for fun and with no desire to spend hours improving. 

 

I understand that milges have difficulty with silly lower-brain activities like reading comprehension and I know this sounds rubbish, but harmless_kittens has repeatedly and definitively said that he gets no joy out trying to improve against better players.  

 

He's asking about the infrastructure of higher tier matches and not for a sodding pep talk. Do him the courtesy of answering his questions.


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Get to know the forum players and invite them to scheduled sessions (preferably on private servers).

This may also be summed up as 'join a clan'.

Down here, I know most of the established players so its almost like an unofficial clan.
We don't fill many servers so there is no reason for us to bail. MM works more often than not (when MM messes up typically someone voluntarily sits out). We happily welcome fresh players and take time to manage expectations and offer help, etc.
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I'm not really sure to be honest, what the stars next to each server mean. I just pick whatever one is open and is closest to me, so that I can get decent ping.

 

And I didn't think smurfing was a problem in this game, as to why you would waste time playing on an account that won't help your main.

I see how its an issue for other games such as CSGO, but CS has competitive, Hawken does not (BTW Hawken guys, if you could get on comp + a payload gamemode that would be really swell).

 

I do know that there are a few hackers here and there and I don't know how to deal with them.


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I'm sorry, what made you think I gave a toss about anything you'd say amid? But as we're doing this now..

My comment was more of a segue from jackvandal's comment, not whatever pessimism bullsh*t you want to feed to our new players. But fair enough, I didn't know that he feels he doesn't want to improve. The thing is kittens' improvement or an increased player base will help towards alleviating all of his gripes but point 6, and as we don't have an increased player base, 'improvement' it is.

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Higher MMR games from a noob lords point of view 
im also more than likely wrong

Cons 
- More skilled enemys 
- you will get rekt
- YOU WILL GET REKT A LOT

Pros
+ Less BS
+ Less hellfires
+ Less scanners

 


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Just to clarify, I don't want to play for "training" or for the purpose of getting better at the game.  That feels like work to me, and I play the game to have fun.  So Amid is right in that sense.  When I complain, I'm complaining about the things that are making the game less fun for me.  What I DO like is just inherently improving while I'm having fun, just from experience.  Since Predator doesn't score me a lot of points, I'm usually 3rd or 4th on our team.  But I remember the days when I was last every time, so I AM getting better, even without trying.  My MMR was 1400 when I joined the forums.  Now I hover around 1600, so I guess that's something :)

 

Thanks everyone for all the advice.


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What's the Raider loadout to "shred" these Hellfire users?  I'd actually like to try that :)


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What I honestly think would make the game better and more fun for you is to get into some other mechs.

 

I know that you don't like dying - that 'ruins the fun' for you.  But, the Predator is kind of a 'play-it-safe' mech... and playing it safe is only fun for so long.  Challenge yourself to try something different - and stick with it for a long time.  I'm a pretty awful player myself, but I've learned that the most fun for me is to be right up in the heat of the battle.  I may die more often, but I generally get the feeling that I am making a big difference in the objective based games and, when I do get those kills on the high-ranked players... it feels glorious.

 

I also know that you quit matches a lot.  You may do so because you're not having fun... but I think you're contributing even more to your own not having fun by spending too much time in the menus and fussing about trying to find better matches.  You might find that you learn to get over the first part, the reason you're quitting, and have more fun by spending more time playing and less time trying to play.


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I'm not contributing to my team by dying AT LEAST twice as much as I kill.  I know because I tried this over the weekend, trying out G2 Assault and Incinerator again, because these are my "just keep firing and never stop" mechs that I can get more kills with.  Usually I was dead before I got one kill.  Sometimes I could kill 1 before dying.  Only rarely would I get two kills in before dying.  And with other mechs I have more like a 1/3 k/d ratio.  That's not helping my team, imho, it's feeding the enemy team.

 

Maybe I'm just naive about other aspects of the game, but how exactly is this assessment incorrect?



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Maybe I'm just naive about other aspects of the game, but how exactly is this assessment incorrect?

 

It's not, it's more tactical than a lot of people bother thinking.  

 

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I'm not contributing to my team by dying AT LEAST twice as much as I kill.  I know because I tried this over the weekend, trying out G2 Assault and Incinerator again, because these are my "just keep firing and never stop" mechs that I can get more kills with.  Usually I was dead before I got one kill.  Sometimes I could kill 1 before dying.  Only rarely would I get two kills in before dying.  And with other mechs I have more like a 1/3 k/d ratio.  That's not helping my team, imho, it's feeding the enemy team.

 

Maybe I'm just naive about other aspects of the game, but how exactly is this assessment incorrect?

 

Well, it's incorrect only if you equate having fun to winning.  I don't.  I equate having fun to trying new things and creating excitement.

 

It's just a strange contradiction, to me:  On one hand you say you are not interested in improving your skills, "you're here to have fun".  But, on the other hand, you seem concerned about your KDR and not upsetting your team by feeding into a loss.

 

I don't see how the two ideologies are compatible.  I think you would have MORE FUN if you stopped giving two fuzzy bunnies about whether you are losing and having a negative KDR.  And to hell with anyone who wants to gripe at you over that tiny little chat window about your performance.  They do not matter.  Winning does not matter.  Your stats do not matter.

 

What Hawken needs is a new rating system which replaces (or at least supplements) MMR - FFR (fun factor rating).  Let there be a slider at the end of each match (you have to finish the match to see it) which lets me adjust for how much fun I had that match.  The more fun I'm having, the more I get matched with other players who are also having lots of fun.

 

Also, I think you would enjoy more of the objective game modes - once you get the hang of them.  In objective modes, your KDR has almost diddly-s#!t to do with whether your team wins or loses.  Being where you are needed, when you are needed is what the objective modes are about.  Hell, sometimes the best thing you can do for your team in an objective mode is to be a sacrifice.  Even paired against the best players in the game, a total fuzzy bunny like myself can be enough of a nuisance to the opposing team to shift the balance of a match... even without getting a single kill.

 

I hope you realize that I'm providing what you asked for, "My suggestions on how to improve your experience in Hawken."  And that's all it is, a suggestion - take it or leave it.  But, what would it hurt to try a different approach for a while?  You're already having a bit of a bad time (probably not as bad as it sounds or you'd have quit long ago ;) ), so, all that you stand from trying new mechs and new plays styles is to keep having a bad time.  But, you might end up having a good time.


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Kittens,

I studied MMR a long time ago, when I sucked at playing this game. To increase it you HAVE to score better than half the pop in the server.

So I learned to yolodive. I died a lot at first. I switched to raider from infil. I died less. I switched to Scout and died a lot more. I STUCK with Scout until I died a lot less. Today, I carry a 2.x k/d in all my accts (Ishmael is an exception since I sucked forsooooolong in that acct).

Play more, play aggressive, you get better by playing.

Did I say Call Me Ishmael?

 

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Most of us have played thousands of matches. 

 

You're gunna get stomped and you're going to stomp. 

 

Pick up new tactics, and JUST HAVE FUN!

 

It's a game. That's what it's for. 


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Well, it's incorrect only if you equate having fun to winning.  I don't.  I equate having fun to trying new things and creating excitement.

 

It's just a strange contradiction, to me:  On one hand you say you are not interested in improving your skills, "you're here to have fun".  But, on the other hand, you seem concerned about your KDR and not upsetting your team by feeding into a loss.

 

I don't see how the two ideologies are compatible.  I think you would have MORE FUN if you stopped giving two fuzzy bunnies about whether you are losing and having a negative KDR.  And to hell with anyone who wants to gripe at you over that tiny little chat window about your performance.  They do not matter.  Winning does not matter.  Your stats do not matter.

 

What Hawken needs is a new rating system which replaces (or at least supplements) MMR - FFR (fun factor rating).  Let there be a slider at the end of each match (you have to finish the match to see it) which lets me adjust for how much fun I had that match.  The more fun I'm having, the more I get matched with other players who are also having lots of fun.

 

Also, I think you would enjoy more of the objective game modes - once you get the hang of them.  In objective modes, your KDR has almost diddly-s#!t to do with whether your team wins or loses.  Being where you are needed, when you are needed is what the objective modes are about.  Hell, sometimes the best thing you can do for your team in an objective mode is to be a sacrifice.  Even paired against the best players in the game, a total fuzzy bunny like myself can be enough of a nuisance to the opposing team to shift the balance of a match... even without getting a single kill.

 

I hope you realize that I'm providing what you asked for, "My suggestions on how to improve your experience in Hawken."  And that's all it is, a suggestion - take it or leave it.  But, what would it hurt to try a different approach for a while?  You're already having a bit of a bad time (probably not as bad as it sounds or you'd have quit long ago ;) ), so, all that you stand from trying new mechs and new plays styles is to keep having a bad time.  But, you might end up having a good time.

Thanks for that sentiment.  I know it seems inconsistent of me, but I IDEALLY want to have fun while allowing my teammates to have fun at the same time.  And since there are so many players that seem only to have fun if they're winning, this is why I think about the effect that my performance has on my team-mates.  I once intentionally "fed" the enemy team to get back at a cheater on our team to try and get him to quit.  I had a blast seeing how fast I could get out there and die again, and watching him complain, and I got it down to an art form, but its not like my team-mates appreciated it (and my tactic achieved its goal, btw).  So I do think there is a fine line there.  (Surely you wouldn't just go to TDM and do 180 spins in place the whole match just because you found it fun.)  When I've gone down the road of trying other mechs out, I get accused of feeding and yolodiving and other terms I had never heard of before playing this game.  Now I can certainly mute those players (and I do, some of you in these forums are even muted in-game btw).  But I still feel bad that I'm somehow ruining their enjoyment of a game.  But I'm slowly realizing that this is unavoidable, and that some people are not happy unless they are complaining.



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FFR (fun factor rating).  Let there be a slider at the end of each match (you have to finish the match to see it) which lets me adjust for how much fun I had that match.  The more fun I'm having, the more I get matched with other players who are also having lots of fun.

 

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As a burst damage lover, IMO there is nothing more hype or satisfying than taking more than half to all my opponents' health in one moment. Honestly, the most fun playstyle for me that Iv'e found is baiting and switching. Taunt and torment opponents till they come after you, and make sure you have backup plans other than just backing up.

 

Get them style points

 

Edit: when I said taunt, I mean holo taunt at most and actually not at all a literal taunt. That will get you creamed.


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Smurfs are smurfs. That 2300+ player who is good with a lot of different mechs? They didn't learn those tricks on that account and maintain that high mmr.


Just wanted to point out that I'm a > 2300 MMR player and I'd say I play at a 2300+ level with probably half of the mechs in the game, as well as being generally competent with another quarter. This is my only account.

As for the OP, seems like your questions have already been answered pretty well. Generally the only reason to play above your level is with the goal of improving as a player. If you're just looking for some casual fun, you'd probably do best avoiding those 1-star games. It's kind of an either-or situation, I think.

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Sounds to me like you're trying to have all the stars and planets aligned perfectly before you're going to enjoy a match....You're dealing with the same issues that everyone else is, so my suggestion (take it or leave it) quit worrying so much and just kick the tires and light the fires.

Just get in there and duke it out no matter who you're playing against. Don't worry about the MM, don't worry about whether someone may say something to you about your battlefield prowess. Just tell them to bugger off. And don't worry about your stats, those will come on their own, don't leave matches... and you may just end up having the fun you're looking for. 


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Just Relax....and take life one game at a time....

Don't run to your death....walk

 

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FFR (fun factor rating).  Let there be a slider at the end of each match (you have to finish the match to see it) which lets me adjust for how much fun I had that match.  The more fun I'm having, the more I get matched with other players who are also having lots of fun.

 

 

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