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I was wondering what the 'howken' banner was! 


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I think the Hawken community has reached its breaking point.


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TL/DR

ok: 1 employee interviewing another 1.  clickbait.  i thought i was hitting a thread for a twitch chat/stream for a community interview of c05.

of course i didn't read the whole thread, because i was giggling too damm much after the first half-dozen posts to feel like taking the rest seriously.

always be acutely aware of your reputation and public image.  it's o.k. if you're loved, tolerated or outright hated--but when you become laughing-stock your respect in any aspect has evaporated.

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She's the community manager and releases information presented to her from the development team. That's kind of her job. I wrote the answers myself, I emailed them, and spent time out of my day to answer them.

 

The posting I have been doing is on my free time; I think I made that orblord feedback post at four in the morning local time. We're listening to community feedback and Tiggs has been an integral part of making sure your feedback is read, collected, and sorted through. The Nief nerfs were a result of community feedback, for example - feedback she presented to us.

 

A lot of my time in APB Customer Support has taught me that community managers and community support are treated poorly by the community because they are honest to everyone and the information that everyone gets may not be the thing you want to hear. And when they do hear the things they want to hear, they are blasted for not doing it soon enough.

 

If you have any additional questions for me, I'll try and answer them in this thread. I'd love to have you guys ask some more. The Hawken community is honestly one of my favorite communities to work with because you guys are so passionate about the game and want to see the right things done.

 

CZeroFive,

I hear what you are saying.  I have some customers that are over passionate at time.  After awhile you don't want to deal with them any longer.  I know that this community has been around for a long time.  I know a lot of people are not happy that no updates for the PC have come out.  I know that Reloaded needs to make money to keep this game going.  I am guessing that is why it was ported over to the consoles.  I'm cool with that. 

 

I have a few questions for you.

1) What is your favorite computer language and why?

2) Do you like programming for the console or PC and why?

 

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Howken refers to console Hawken and how much of a bastardized version of the game it is. The fact that you have appropriated it to mean something different isn't "fun". This is coming from someone who had high hopes for the game even with the understanding that it was going to change drastically.  I think that I speak for much of the community when I say that we couldn't care less what your favorite type of music is. We want to know what is going on with development and what is being done to improve the game. 

 

 

 
 
I like how you basically think that the game is bastardized now (Or soon will be on the PC), when I have been saying dat about the version you liked I remember you typing in "Git gud". 
 
Anyway, I think using howken to mean odd behavior is fun enough. (Cause the reason it is being used in the first place is funny, and a bit pointless) And the thread just opens a relaxed way to sort of talk to/about a dev member. Whether you care about it or not is just about as interesting as a physical visual ghost that looks exactly like a normal dude called john. 


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TR,VS or NC? Don't be in Dapp or AODR. And of course whatever NC's is...


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I only have two questions for CZ



Do you love me?


Do you play on pc? If so pls play with me and let me rek you c:

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TR,VS or NC? Don't be in Dapp or AODR. And of course whatever NC's is...

Purple Spandex all the way man.


 

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Have you, or any of the other devs (to your knowledge), worked on FPS games, particularly arena shooters, before?

 

I believe we have mostly veterans on the team that have worked on arena shooters in both design and programming. It's not my first programming rodeo either; the game is in good and talented hands.

 

I am more of a programmer by trade and passionate gamer by hobby. I know what it feels like to have a game changed to the point of no return. If you're forgetting, Tiggs has too. So trust me; the game is in good hands.

 

A few of the old arena shooters I have played that are done right 'in my eyes' are games like Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, Quake 3, etc (honestly Quake 3 engine games in general are really well done) and the original Battlefield/Battlefield 2. I am also a huge fan of non-traditional shooters like S4 League, GunZ, Huxley: The Dystopia, and FireFall - these kind of games give inspiration to the shooter genre that it can be an arena shooter but retain elements of MMOs as well.

 

 

I have a few questions for you.

1) What is your favorite computer language and why?

2) Do you like programming for the console or PC and why?

 

1) C++. Debugging and figuring out issues is so much simpler in this language than any other language if you know what you are looking at. The idea behind the MSVC/GCC toolchains are so great. That, and I read assembler so it's nice to see exactly why something in your C++ code breaks if it does. There have been several crashes on Hawken console that we've caught because I knew exactly the location in the Portable Executable I was looking at based on the sequence of instructions. There was also a case where I rewrote a PhysX function from assembly. That was fun!

 

2) I prefer programming for a target PC platform because there's less steps, especially in an Unreal Engine setup - every change on our console development builds requires a 20-minute build process on an i7 with a 4.2 GHz Processor. Then, that 20-minute build is followed by a 2-minute deploy of all the assets. Then we see if the change works on PC as well as it does a console. It's quite crazy.

 

TR,VS or NC? Don't be in Dapp or AODR. And of course whatever NC's is...

 

 

"A miserable free man is better off than a contented slave."


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A few of the old arena shooters I have played that are done right 'in my eyes' are games like Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, Quake 3, etc (honestly Quake 3 engine games in general are really well done) and the original Battlefield/Battlefield 2.

 

 

arena shooters 

 

 

 original Battlefield/Battlefield 2.

 

*record scratching sound*


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A few of the old arena shooters I have played that are done right 'in my eyes' are games like .... and the original Battlefield/Battlefield 2.

 

 

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I'm sort of lumping in Battlefield 1942 to the 'arena shooter' category and very loosely BF2 - it felt like WWII shooters before they went into that trend of making the same thing each year with different graphics and a absurdly fast time to kill that required you to have awareness and aim instead of adding movement into the mix. Call of Duty 2 honestly felt more like an arena shooter in terms of gameplay. It wasn't until the quick TTK and forced standing-still of CoD4, BF2 etc that it started to feel less like an arena shooter. That being said, the maps weren't arena shooter size.

 

edit: I just watched some gameplay videos. I suppose I was remembering the games with rose tinted glasses. TTK in CoD2 was definitely not what I was thinking of. I didn't play the realism mods and that's still too quick (instant kill snipers etc)


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Czero i need to know this for reasons


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Czero i need to know this for reasons

 

"African or European?"

 

"..."

 

"Well I don't know..."


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Question to C05:

 

Do you have plans on adding this to the game?



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Question to C05:

 

Do you have plans on adding this to the game?

 

Huge fan of lore-friendly additions. That's not my department, though.


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I was wondering what the 'howken' banner was! 

 

I beleive it is a translation from "how can you break the game"

 

seems to me however teh devs have tried to tuen it into something less demeaning of than the communities reaction to being ignored for so long then having the new dev team point the game in the opposite direction


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hi CZeroFive. Do you guys have any plans to support 6v6 team matching or provide any tools for console players to start scrims against other teams. Right now we have no reliable way to get 12 people in a server and dictate who goes on what team. I know a lot of people on console want to compete against other teams but right now it's just not an option. For example I literally can't play with friends right now since my MMR is pretty high on console. If we party either I get kicked or my friend gets kicked because of fitness rating shenanigans. That or it drops us into an empty server.


Also did you get my pm about the the broken thing on Xbox that circumvents the stuff to get the things? I swear I pmed you and tiggs about it like 2 weeks ago but I don't see a copy of it in my inbox

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Um, no. I'm criticizing her for the repeated "interview" threads that displayed nothing but generic, corporate answers, seemingly filtered through a single mealy-mouthed source. This is the very first thread in which we have any independent answers from devs-not-Tiggs. I suggest you review Reloaded's previous attempts at connection and ceebrate & encourage CZeroFive's active engagement.

Based on your posts you seem to me like you would have a very specific and passionate response to the subject of "chem-trails."

You know megalodon is alive, right?

 

Oh I know what you'll say next! Tiggs is just a reptilian humanoid running the show behind the scenes so we won't suspect all the shady, surely insidious actions goin on. 



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Howken refers to console Hawken and how much of a bastardized version of the game it is. The fact that you have appropriated it to mean something different isn't "fun". This is coming from someone who had high hopes for the game even with the understanding that it was going to change drastically.  I think that I speak for much of the community when I say that we couldn't care less what your favorite type of music is. We want to know what is going on with development and what is being done to improve the game. 

I dunno IMO they really shouldn't care what you think either because you seem to be really enjoying rocket league lately. But maybe I'm just biased after the numerous times on the TS in the past where you have personally attacked me because you "were in a bad mood" and then came crawling back to apologize later. I would have taken it as genuine had it not happened multiple times and if you stop playing I honestly won't miss you. But I know you don't care anyway. You're having too much fun playing ball in a virtual RC car to care about my opinions. 



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Based on your posts you seem to me like you would have a very specific and passionate response to the subject of "chem-trails."

You know megalodon is alive, right?

 

Oh I know what you'll say next! Tiggs is just a reptilian humanoid running the show behind the scenes so we won't suspect all the shady, surely insidious actions goin on. 

You get them boy! That's right, who else wants their argument neutered?


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hi CZeroFive. Do you guys have any plans to support 6v6 team matching or provide any tools for console players to start scrims against other teams. Right now we have no reliable way to get 12 people in a server and dictate who goes on what team. I know a lot of people on console want to compete against other teams but right now it's just not an option. For example I literally can't play with friends right now since my MMR is pretty high on console. If we party either I get kicked or my friend gets kicked because of fitness rating shenanigans. That or it drops us into an empty server.


Also did you get my pm about the the broken thing on Xbox that circumvents the stuff to get the things? I swear I pmed you and tiggs about it like 2 weeks ago but I don't see a copy of it in my inbox

 

There's discussions in the works for more competitive options, however, nothing set in stone and nothing we're ready to talk about yet. Sorry I don't have a more concrete answer.

 

I got your PM about the broken thing and it's been logged internally. Thank you very much for reporting it.



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Will nief, charge et al. be renamed to something that reflects their role rather than that chassis, like the old mechs (Assault, Sharpshooter and such)?

It really bothers me. Kinda petty of me, i guess, but i felt like i should ask you something, anything.


I have a lot of ideas and would like some feedback on them:

Suggestions for fixing things:

https://community.pl...of-suggestions/

Suggestions for new things:

https://community.pl...for-new-things/


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I wrote the answers myself, I emailed them, and spent time out of my day to answer them.


This process would take the same amount of time as just making the thread yourself. Because of that I have to say I can certainly see where amid was coming from in terms of this looking "corporate curated". I fail to see any other meaningful reason to send this through Tiggs first. Am I just missing something?
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This process would take the same amount of time as just making the thread yourself. Because of that I have to say I can certainly see where amid was coming from in terms of this looking "corporate curated". I fail to see any other meaningful reason to send this through Tiggs first. Am I just missing something?

 

Clearly I am answering additional community questions in this thread, so what difference does it make that Tiggs posts them or not? I was clocked out and living my life when the QA answers were posted. When I got back, the thread was posted and there were people assualting Tiggs for making the thread on my behalf.

 

We fill in for each other when we can. That's kind of what a team does.

 

 

Will nief, charge et al. be renamed to something that reflects their role rather than that chassis, like the old mechs (Assault, Sharpshooter and such)?

It really bothers me. Kinda petty of me, i guess, but i felt like i should ask you something, anything.

 

I'm not sure because there's a lot we're discussing internally about how to reintroduce the new assets to the PC game. We don't want to port the console build 1:1.


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Clearly I am answering additional community questions in this thread, so what difference does it make that Tiggs posts them or not?

He's just asking the reasoning behind it. When Amid posted, you hadn't begun responding yet. At least, I think. I really can't tell with the bans and the post removals.


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He's just asking the reasoning behind it. When Amid posted, you hadn't begun responding yet. At least, I think. I really can't tell with the bans and the post removals.

 

The same exact thing was done with APB 3 months ago and was met with positive results from the community. All of the questions selected were your questions this time around, however. The APB players didn't have the luxury of having your questions picked for them, they were simply fed the information from a pre-selected Q&A. We wanted to do more this time around to actually engage the players and answer their questions.

 

The questions were pulled from here:

https://community.pl...oductions/?hl=q

 

Obviously we're not going to answer the ones about felony drug charges. There are some posts there that are completely inappropriate.


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This process would take the same amount of time as just making the thread yourself. Because of that I have to say I can certainly see where amid was coming from in terms of this looking "corporate curated". I fail to see any other meaningful reason to send this through Tiggs first. Am I just missing something?

It's her job. I regularly hang out with my coworker at the desk because we work alternating shifts and that's the only time I get to hang out with him. I don't do his job for him even though I totally could and can on his shift. He might even be open to it. You go to work to work. Plus, they're not completely in charge of reloaded and what their job positions require of employees like Tiggs. They are a team in a larger company. If I'm at work and there is something I can do I do it. I hate feeling idle. Every job place has STUPID rules. Tiggs herself may not be too keen on this part of her work especially if she gets accused of putting out a fabricated corporate message as often in her other works as she has here. If she does it is in her best interest not to say anything because that could cause issues if a company has problems with internal criticisms.



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The same exact thing was done with APB 3 months ago and was met with positive results from the community. All of the questions selected were your questions this time around, however. The APB players didn't have the luxury of having your questions picked for them, they were simply fed the information from a pre-selected Q&A. We wanted to do more this time around to actually engage the players and answer their questions.

 

The questions were pulled from here:

https://community.pl...oductions/?hl=q

 

Obviously we're not going to answer the ones about felony drug charges. There are some posts there that are completely inappropriate.

Well, look. We do appreciate, and really do, the fact that you've been chiming in on this thread. You may or may not have noticed that this is happening at a pretty inopportune time, and people are bound to be a bit suspicious.

 

Including the fact that these were community sourced questions in the OP would have been a stellar move (and I'd still recommend going back and editing it to include that) and done a bit to cut down on the... glitchy protocol/procedure/super distant image that Reloaded's kind of cultivated. People have short memories.

 

But why won't you answer the ones about the felony drug charges? Got something to hide, huh?


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Well, look. We do appreciate, and really do, the fact that you've been chiming in on this thread. You may or may not have noticed that this is happening at a pretty inopportune time, and people are bound to be a bit suspicious.

 

We're human too. I wish we could have posted at a better time, but if we waited for a good time to post, we'd be waiting indefinitely. There is always someone that will take offense to things in any scenario, not just in game development. It just so happens that we're all behind computer screens and anonymous names that it becomes more convenient to express those feelings without fear of prejudice or penalty. See: Twitter.

 

But why won't you answer the ones about the felony drug charges? Got something to hide, huh?

 

Does the Hawken virus count?


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Well, look. We do appreciate, and really do, the fact that you've been chiming in on this thread. You may or may not have noticed that this is happening at a pretty inopportune time,

 

But why won't you answer the ones about the felony drug charges? Got something to hide, huh?

 

As much as i agree with the sentiment in green...

 

Dude that red comment is far to personally accusing... I admit to not being happy with devs and mods atm but that is borderline personal attack man... your better than that... js


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I do appreciate your responses here co5. I was legitimately curious about the OP because I couldn't see a good reason for it. If that's just the format for these things that's chill, it's just a little weird.
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A  RLD objective: $

B  Devolopment:  usingold code

C. new player draw:  LOLOLOLOL

D.  bottom line: $

E.  Kill the PC drag down.

F.  Make more Chinese cash than ADH ever dreamed


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I am also a huge fan of non-traditional shooters like S4 League, GunZ, Huxley: The Dystopia, and FireFall - these kind of games give inspiration to the shooter genre that it can be an arena shooter but retain elements of MMOs as well.

 

I like your taste in games.  With the exception of GunZ (which devotion played pretty religiously), those are all games we (within Omni) had been watching intently.  Unfortunately, they all died pretty hard, and pretty quickly.



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As much as i agree with the sentiment in green...
 
Dude that red comment is far to personally accusing... I admit to not being happy with devs and mods atm but that is borderline personal attack man... your better than that... js

God... Just... Goddammit.
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What is your honest opinion of the PC Community?

Is there any juicy details we could have as to why we had to remove mech customization?

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          Does anyone remember me saying i won't defend a Dev in this community? I may have to go back on that for a bit. These guys(C05 &Tiggs) are legitimately trying to do something different here, ok, they may have messed up but now their bonds are not as tight they are jumping on it and TRYING to correct and communicate. Who cares if they did not originally plan on incorporating customization (as someone suggested elsewhere) they hear our complaints and now it's in the pipeline, somewhere. They are communicating now. Once a week! I wish other games that are much more successful had devs that did that. cut them some slack, and let them show us what they're really about now that they can is all I personally would ask.

 

          On a seperate note(to C05) do you guys have access to the legacy builds of this game? like when we talk about how alpha/closed beta hawken used to be, do you guys have a reference point for what we mean?

 

Edit: I wrote this before I realized there was a page 2, sorry if it seems out of place now


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Obviously we're not going to answer the ones about felony drug charges. There are some posts there that are completely inappropriate.

 

I thought of that question as a more exciting way to ask a dev's thoughts about the war on drugs and their opinions on legalization.


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Come on Crafty, you have been officially called out on your lies. Your online reputation is at stake here, this is just like an old school street race running for pink slips. Its run what you brung and hope its enough. Put up or shut the fuzzy bunny up.


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 We don't want to port the console build 1:1.

 

ORLY?  Can you elaborate on this? 



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CZeroFive,

I just wish that we had a time frame of when we will see an update to the PC build.  I think that I read late summer, is that still the plan? 

 

Also, which you most likely can't answer but I hope Josh answers is when do we expect to see a new map.  Kind of tired of the current maps.  I'm looking forward in playing the new G2 mech when it comes out on the PC.  At least it will be a new Mech to level, if leveling is still a thing.

 

Also, ran into an aimbot over the weekend.  I hope you guys are addressing this with the update as well.

 

thanks for responding to the previous messages.

 

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