Look, this is going to sound aggressive and I'm sorry if it seems overly so, but,
did you do any research before starting this thread?
It is difficult to take these discussion threads seriously when the OP hasn't bothered to do a bare minimum of research in the community that they are addressing.
and did you took time to at least read all my post or just assumed the content based on topic?cuz u did not address any of the issues i raised but still whined about another topic that was supposedly already talked thru:)?
like i said at the start. i took a quick look at the forums and saw none of my questions answerred. you are not obligated to answer them i just wanted to hear an opinion from different people, please take a good read of my post.
If you don't mind me politely asking? It seams that you might have a bit of an axe to grind regarding hacking. Did you report someone to ADH without getting a response?
yeah i was pretty active with hawken (played since alpha), not the best player but always try to have fun with the game. also shifted thru 2 small casual clans. and durring that many time i encountered multiple 'fishy' situation. and response 'a player is a player' (sth similiar, cant recall the exact words) was a legit response from adhesive when reporting an abusive play (although this happened only once)
as to answer other ppl:
- of course hawken had a shop with real and ingame money but for me the P2W would occur when the grinding process takes extremely extremely long. there are games out there (i wont point my finger to not anger any fans) where you literally had to spend 60+hours to get 1 new weapon that is worth something. i find grinding in hawken pretty easy and not tiring (meaning, it is fast enough)
BUT
the issue was (sorry now i see i did not stated that entirely correctly), what if new owner of hawken changes the 'grinding policy' what if new mechs would require extreme amount of time to get. or weapons or internals
what if they added a whole new store with 50+new weapons/internals/items that will encourage usuall p2w'nners to exploit it more
and once again, I'm not asking this as a real real concern. i'm asking just to find out the opinion of all you people, what would you feel would that change anything in hawken for you etc:)?
Cheaters typically did NOT pay for MC. That would only increase the downside risk of getting caught cheating... That assumption makes no sense, nor that Adhesive would intentionally ignore cheaters who bought MC. Not only did Adhesive already have the money in their possession, but their ToS clearly states no refunds. They'd have nothing to lose by banning cheaters.
More often than not, it's the accusers making false accusations of cheating or "hacking" and thinking they're providing 100% concrete proof when all they've really submitted is a long video containing only a few frames of someone doing something suspicious.
RG has already stated they take cheating, aka "hacking", seriously. I see no reason to even question whether they wouldn't.
yeah they had it in their TOS but when my game crashed on me and i bought multiple boosts that i did not wanted they refuned me the MC (i even asked them to retract any xp i might earn untill the refund-they did not) but they said 'here take the money and try not to crash it again because we dont do refunds'
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this just proves how much they cared about any ToS or how consequent they were. not to mention the attitude "dont do it again cuz we wont help again"? ummm sorry but this is your frickin game that fudged me over because you cant fix it.
as for hacking and stuff, im not usually the person that would accuse of hacking without thinking it over. while playing hacking i heared numerous accusations about other players (well known good players) as well as myself (yeah that happened too, even funnier because i wasnt that good)
so when i say i had hard evidence of hacking i really mean it:)
abusing map glitches is also hacking for me. some people say "hey it's a feature of the map that i know of", NO this is not mario kart rainbow circuit where you can cut thru a curve to get advantage. this is people standing on skybox being immortal and shooting everyone from above for the whole frickin match:) it all depends how much you abuse and to what extent