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My suggestion is to create an algorithm that searches servers for all high MMR players, which are in matches of low average MMR. Then these high MMR players are forcibly pulled out of their games without any warning at all. This can be calculated, say, once every 30 minutes or so.

(Wait, there's more!)

If the algorithm finds enough players at any given time, after being forced out of their current server, they are ALL immediately put into one empty server together (Since there are always so many empty servers all the time).

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And they all lived happily ever after.

THE END.

 

 

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FOR THE RECORD: I understand the suggestion would do nothing to prevent the creation and abuse of smurf accounts. It would only enable people with high MMR accounts to be able to go back to using them, rather than having the amount of time they spent be wasted. It is also entirely avoiding the issue of unlocking the servers.


Edited by WillyW, 26 August 2015 - 08:31 AM.

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See, when you create a smurf it gets the starter MMR, and you join a server depending on MMR range. Smurfs have the same MMR as the server they're on, that's kinda the point. Scanning for this would yield no results.


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I dont like smurfs but even for me that suggestion is... risky.

 

Moreover that is not anti-smurf but rather anti-pub_stomp.

I understand that high tier players shouldnt be haunting low tier matches, but that.. that is overkill.



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Maybe we could label them with a Star of David too ....then put them into a server where we can watch them so we can keep an eye on them and then we could.......... well maybe I over reacted but that's how it starts then you know we're going after someone else cus they hurt your feelings.

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One massive issue is the complete ease of creating a smurf.

 

You don't even need a legitimate e-mail address to register. Apparently HAWKEN thinks @Shiggmail is legit.

 

 

If it were more difficult to register, this would deter people simply because it takes a little time to create an alternate e-mail address.


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Wait, there's more!

 

If the algorithm finds the ip address and the user's residence. It's also possible to..

 

 

 



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I think there was a proposed opt-in addition to Scrimbot that would do this by sending invites when enough people are online to start a match. Obviously it wouldn't forcibly pull people out of games, but that system would accomplish roughly the same thing. 


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good idea

kill smurfing

they destroy balance and starters leave


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Wow, the anti-smurf witch hunt is really on fire recently.
I'm still sort of new around here... Has it always been this stupid?


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Smurfing will always be a problem. The best solution would be to have equal opponents but really ... in a high MMR server, we know eachother, the game is over right when it started in most cases, just by looking at the names we know how the game will end.

 

And at some point, it gets boring to awlays  fight with or against the very same people you had thousands of matches already with them.

Like really, these matches are like a bar where we all drink a beer rather than actual fighting. 

 

The only competetive Hawken are duels. But noone wants to duel :( Or atleast play Deathmatch.

 

 

 

 

And this ... is why we have smurfs.


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Wow, the anti-smurf witch hunt is really on fire recently.
I'm still sort of new around here... Has it always been this stupid?

 

Nah, before we witch-hunted ADH.


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<PoopSlinger> fuzzy bunnyn smurfs
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But noone wants to duel

 

(._.)

 

 

(q_q)

 

 

(T_T)

 

 

(???)

 

 

 

p.s. only i notice, that topic starter "algorithm" doesn't affect on smurf, it only will be a kicked high-skill players from their matches :D

 

p.p.s. i just realize how it working. i playing in siege and lead my team to win, than BAM! i look at "loading screen" lost all my earned HC, and my team probably lose because play 5vs6 without me. you should called it "surprise-buttsek-algorithm" :D


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Jeezus, why create a duplicate topic for this... DIRECTLY ON TOP OF THE TOPIC THAT ALREADY EXISTS (and is a duplicate of another... and another...)


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To be serious for a moment this is just a joke

 


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The very same people you had thousands of matches already with them.

Like really, these matches are like a bar where we all drink a beer rather than actual fighting.

 

This sounds rather nice to me, really. :D



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This sounds rather nice to me, really. :D

 

Except for the two or three idiots like the one that's always saying "Screw you I'm going home" but never actually leaves.


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Feel me?



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This sounds rather nice to me, really. :D


Yea sometimes it does but you simply don't drink beer if you want to see your enemy bleeding and suffer.

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Smurfing will always be a problem. The best solution would be to have equal opponents but really ... in a high MMR server, we know eachother, the game is over right when it started in most cases, just by looking at the names we know how the game will end.

 

And at some point, it gets boring to awlays  fight with or against the very same people you had thousands of matches already with them.

Like really, these matches are like a bar where we all drink a beer rather than actual fighting. 

 

The only competetive Hawken are duels. But noone wants to duel :( Or atleast play Deathmatch.

 

 

 

 

And this ... is why we have smurfs.

DM has become random. I match up on one after sitting in queue for 10 minutes, a few more join and the place is jumpin', then "FakeName joined the battlefield" and suddenly i'm 2nd rank out of 2 players (not necessarily you, just an example).  I'd much rather a highly skilled smurf join and surprise the fsck out of everyone, rather than this happen. at least SOME of the people will stay.


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FOR THE RECORD: I understand the suggestion would do nothing to prevent the creation and abuse of smurf accounts. It would only enable people with high MMR accounts to be able to go back to using them, rather than having the amount of time they spent be wasted. It is also entirely avoiding the issue of unlocking the servers.


Edited by WillyW, 26 August 2015 - 08:31 AM.

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Solution: mind your damned business


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DM has become random. I match up on one after sitting in queue for 10 minutes, a few more join and the place is jumpin', then "FakeName joined the battlefield" and suddenly i'm 2nd rank out of 2 players (not necessarily you, just an example).  I'd much rather a highly skilled smurf join and surprise the fsck out of everyone, rather than this happen. at least SOME of the people will stay.

 

How about a duel mode?


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Like really, these matches are like a bar where we all drink a beer rather than actual fighting. 

 

This is why we need a drunk server just for drunk gaming and nothing else. Now that everyone knows each other sober, it's time to spice it up a bit.

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I await the arrival of Scrimbot invites. 

 

Until then. I'll make my own matches with blackjack and hookers.

 

Blackjack+and+hookers+_12e920c10fedfef7e

 

Or solution from Josh and co. They are making great progress on the networking of the game and some of the matchmaker changes have been good so far. Honestly pretty happy at the pace of progress/changes given there being very few people actually working on the game.


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This is why we need a drunk server just for drunk gaming and nothing else. Now that everyone knows each other sober, it's time to spice it up a bit.

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2-7 am in NA is basically this on every server


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I preferred my suggestion.



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This is why we need a drunk server just for drunk gaming and nothing else. Now that everyone knows each other sober, it's time to spice it up a bit.

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What ! ....beer makes you smart.  :tongue:

 

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The actual answer to smurfing is:
1) Quit whining
2) Invite all your friends to play Hawken.
3) Get them to invite all their friends to play Hawken.
4) Don't treat them like crap or mouth off like a spoilt little turd.
5) re-read step 4
6) Wait for them to increase MMR.
7) Everyone choose one of the many suitable fitness matches to play in.

There is also a much quicker and easier solution.
1) Harden the fark up

Cheers,
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Edited by 6ixxer, 30 August 2015 - 12:57 AM.

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bad solution 6ixxer

smurfs is bad



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Never said they were good, but I'm here to play, even if that's against a high MMR player in noob clothing.

 

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I understand that Aussies would play against anyone or anything ... but I think that a teaspoon of concrete can press only one key at a time.

 

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my concrete uses a joystick.

 

I have to use matchmaker to get into Aus games as the server MMR is a looong way above my personal MMR.

Ok, my personal MMR is artificially low, because reasons, but Aus servers are a challenge for me.

 

Fun doesn't have to be easy.


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