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Why... Every time I hit that new content button all I see is that this thing or that thing is OP. If it's not the Tech it tends to fall to the Scout. Then the Incin. Then the Zerker. Then the Raider. What is it about competitive games that make people so livid? Are these things actually OP?

I bet that if we remove assists from the Tech to inflate it's score, it wouldn't be OP. I really don't understand the ScootOPplayrealmechscrubnub argument. The reason people top charts with it is because they know what they're doing.

PPA Incin is rediculously hard to use. Yet people yell and scream about it. It hits too hard to be a support mech. If you fart near the thing while it's firing it's PPA it'll overheat.

Raider... I really don't even know how to address this. Don't one on one it if you know it can clear the gap. It's only really dangerous when it's kissing your neck or you're running from it.

Zerker? Really? The Light Assault is OP? No. If the Zerker is OP then any hitscan+tow mech is OP.

I expect the new content button to bring me new content. Not unsubstantiated claims over and over and over. I really wish I could opt out of posts that have, "OP", "Over Powered", Rebalance" or "idea" in the title.
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Edited by KilleR_OrigiNs, 30 April 2015 - 09:40 PM.


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Skill differential vocalized - That's gaming forums for you.

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Dude. I was upset. My mom gave me mustard. I hate mustard.

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I see you didn't rationalize the scout not being OP.. so i guess it is OP pls nerf ty.

 

On a serious note, as a new player i don't feel any mech is OP, just i think there should be limits on availability. Abusing high mobility mechs on certain maps, i feel is how the scout and zerk have earned their OP status.  



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I'd still rather read OP mech arguments than the endless list of "suggestion" threads to the devs for game changes.


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I see you didn't rationalize the scout not being OP.. so i guess it is OP pls nerf ty.

On a serious note, as a new player i don't feel any mech is OP, just i think there should be limits on availability. Abusing high mobility mechs on certain maps, i feel is how the scout and zerk have earned their OP status.


I know there have been times I have left matches thinking a mech was OP. I was angry. I was upset with myself. Upon stepping away, smoking a cigarette and slamming a tub of mustard on the ground, I ran it over in my head. As I examined the splatts of mustard on my pimp hand, clarity wouldstrike. It wasn't that the mech that just slaughtered me waz OP. It was that I failed to do something right. Taking responsibility for what I do and slamming tubs of mustard on the ground have allowed me to get better.

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Damnit Saturday, I needed that mustard.

On another note, each mech is strong and weak in their own ways, and you just have to find the mech you're good with and like. For me it was the Scout and I even had people complain at me for being to strong in it but it's not because the mech was "OP" but because I was good in the mech. It's not the mechs that are strong but the one's piloting them.

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So following your title, G2 ASSault is OP.

 

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Welcome to gaming forums. Those sorts of threads always crop up. It is inevitable.

 

Just the same way this thread was inevitable. Because someone always has to make a thread about those threads, while titling it in a mocking manner. I'm not trying to be insulting. It's just something I've witnessed on every single gaming forum I've ever spent any time on.

 


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So following your title, G2 ASSault is OP.

 

K.

 

Honestly?  Sometimes.

 

I also got the weapon glitch with that thing having a normal vulcan with the xt.  I didn't live long with it, but holy wowzers.  Tha deepz.

 

And yes, everything is OP in the right hands.

 

EDIT: Also I kind of agree with what AJK said, but think of it this way: you have sort of been a part of a forum's and your own rite of internet passage.  Welcome to the jaded club!


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No game is ever going to be perfectly balanced, and HAWKEN is no exception. There probably are things that are overpowered in the game right now. That said, I agree that usually when people are complaining about something being OP, they're just doing something wrong like approaching a fight with a certain mech in the wrong way OR they're up against something that is one of their weaknesses. Personally, I suck at fighting lightweights because they can spam dodge and never get hit by my shots.



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Welcome to gaming forums. Those sorts of threads always crop up. It is inevitable.

Just the same way this thread was inevitable. Because someone always has to make a thread about those threads, while titling it in a mocking manner. I'm not trying to be insulting. It's just something I've witnessed on every single gaming forum I've ever spent any time on.


Yes yes. I had to be that guy. But the question is what we do with it, right? I understand that the conversations need to happen, but accountability is key as well. For the time, being, what can we do? Playing against something that we.percieve as OP and trying to improve is more important than getting flustered and putting the sole blame on the possibility that something is out of balance I think.

The arguments are rarely succinct and very emotionally driven. Examine, account, review, think, pause, think some more, highlight, delete, clarify, substantiate, and reply. Strive to improve.

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My coffee is OP.



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No. Espresso OP.  Especially when I have four doubleshots.


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Usually it's when people can't kill something it's op. People with bad aim see scouts as op. People will good aim see scouts as two shots. That sorta thing :D


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The Rocketeer is OP.

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You're right, everything is One Piece.
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The fact that we can't agree on what is OP means that this game is actually really balanced.

 

Think about it.



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I don't agree with every point that this video presents, but there are some damn good ones.


Edited by Nept, 19 April 2015 - 10:19 PM.

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My pinkie finger is OP.

 

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Yes yes. I had to be that guy. But the question is what we do with it, right? I understand that the conversations need to happen, but accountability is key as well. For the time, being, what can we do? Playing against something that we.percieve as OP and trying to improve is more important than getting flustered and putting the sole blame on the possibility that something is out of balance I think.

The arguments are rarely succinct and very emotionally driven. Examine, account, review, think, pause, think some more, highlight, delete, clarify, substantiate, and reply. Strive to improve.

Don't read too much into it.

 

I just really, really wanted to use that video.



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Edited by KilleR_OrigiNs, 30 April 2015 - 09:40 PM.


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Devs, 

 

I think that allowing people to play this game is OP. You should change the game so people cant play it. I really think this would make the game better if you stopped letting us play. This is the best solution and I think people would be happier if you just did that. Anytime people have a chance to play, something becomes 'OP'. Lets just turn the servers off altogether.



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As far as the tech is concerned I think It requires a nerf in how many points it's able to score. In higher tier games if you're not the top scorer in a tech, you're playing it wrong. Of course now that we also have 18 and 24 player matches, The tech is now even more of an MMR farm. 

 

As many have said before me, no mech is truly OP, only the pilot gunning you down in it.. Except the incinerator.. Obviously.

That thing is broken. ^^


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Incinerator is fine. IT'S YOUR FAULT YOU CAN'T KILL IT.



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Incinerator is fine. IT'S YOUR FAULT YOU CAN'T KILL IT.


Sure blame the victim. He was just minding his own business gathering EU, then BAM, fireball in the face. That's not his fault, the Incinerator should've started the duel properly.


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If he's collecting EU then there's no time for dueling!!!






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