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I mean they already exists in co op bot challenge.
I think since we have turrets you could have a drone or two follow you.
(One missile and other minigun)
(Btw couldn't we spawn more than one of the same turret before?)

More mobility at the cost of less durability.

Yes? :)

(Edit: I know it's been discussed before, but the drones are there now, profit of what's already there.)


Edited by Luaq, 19 September 2015 - 10:42 AM.

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Probably because another mobile damage source would be really strong.

 

Even though it really shouldn't take too much balancing or time; they already have the assets.



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This has been talked about quite a few times in the past.


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i think the bomber drone could work as an item depending on how much damage it does, but a homing emp is a baaaad idea.


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Only if they don't have hitscan weapons.

 

Drones have aimbot (obviously). Aimbot + hitscan = op


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Only if they don't have hitscan weapons.

 

Drones have aimbot (obviously). Aimbot + hitscan = op

 

nerf mg turret pls



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I already have PTSD because of AC zerkers please no  :ohmy:

 

 

It could be a nice addition if reasonably balanced though, it would have to be pretty slow and patrol a zone rather than follow the person who launched it or else it's just like having another gun on your mech. If it does that it replicates what turrets do already so maybe they would need to have a role other than a dps boost.


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I already have PTSD because of AC zerkers please no  :ohmy:

I am triggered by your use of discriminating call of the Berserker. Very ACist, wow.

 

Check your connection, orblord. 


Edited by (KDR) Kopra, 19 September 2015 - 01:45 AM.

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I am triggered by your use of discriminating call of the Berserker. Very ACist, wow, fuzzy bunny orblords.

 

Your ignorance of the existence of zerker-kin is triggering me even more, I literally can't even...

 

Please educate yourself.


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Your ignorance of the existence of zerker-kin is triggering me even more, I literally can't even...

 

Please educate yourself.

 

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nerf mg turret pls

babaji not approve this! :D


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no sTOP

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I CAN'T BREATHE

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I CAN'T BREATHE

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Only if they don't have hitscan weapons.

Drones have aimbot (obviously). Aimbot + hitscan = op

aimbot can be programmed to miss. Like currently bots, they simulate a miss.

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aimbot can be programmed to miss. Like currently bots, they simulate a miss.

 

That would throw Hawken more into a kind of RPG game, combine with weird design.


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the only worry i have about the weapon drones is that players often overlook them, and if a bunch of them (in coop) or if a whole team used them, that's a lot of extra damage adding up.


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The battleship in Siege used to shoot at you with the forward turrets, made the game... different.

You could also go in the enemy base in a cloaked predator... alpha strike :)


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Also, drones can make a buff/debuff, no just deal a damage.
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The battleship in Siege used to shoot at you with the forward turrets, made the game... different.

You could also go in the enemy base in a cloaked predator... alpha strike :)

Waow I forgot about that!! It was fuzzy bunnyng intense!

But I don't see why people are going nuts. It's the same as turrets. It adds fire power. You have the choice of an item for attack or defense.
There's all kind of ways to balance it and not be "OP". It would bring an additional element to the tatics and Hawken needs new stuff because the player base is the same since it dropped approx two years ago. So maybe nothing changed because nothing changed in the first place. The drones are already there, it's only a matter of reprogramming them and a bit of balance. The devs are the ones who are responsible to renew the game because they can, they just have to do it and one thing that works well is rework what's already there and take advantage of it. Like why not add bots when a team is missing a player or two until someone joins? stuff like that.

So yeah, stop being scared of the new, it's not healthy for hawken.



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Waow I forgot about that!! It was fuzzy bunnyng intense!

But I don't see why people are going nuts. It's the same as turrets. It adds fire power. You have the choice of an item for attack or defense.
There's all kind of ways to balance it and not be "OP". It would bring an additional element to the tatics and Hawken needs new stuff ......


I agree with all of this. Just because it might have issues doesn't mean you ignore the idea, you implement it the best you can the first time and work out the issues.

And yeah I think drones would be awesome. So much more potential than turrets that simply sit there.
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I agree with all of this. Just because it might have issues doesn't mean you ignore the idea, you implement it the best you can the first time and work out the issues.

And yeah I think drones would be awesome. So much more potential than turrets that simply sit there.

Actually turrets have their roles, a good defense counter attack (trap! ) while drones would be for immediate attack, could be a counter for turrets actually..



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Actually turrets have their roles, a good defense counter attack (trap! ) while drones would be for immediate attack, could be a counter for turrets actually..


Yeah, I'm not putting down turrets, actually I put them down all the time (pun!).

I'm simply saying the added movement mechanic of a drone affords so much more creativity in terms of design in contrast to a turret.
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Yeah, I'm not putting down turrets, actually I put them down all the time (pun!).

I'm simply saying the added movement mechanic of a drone affords so much more creativity in terms of design in contrast to a turret.

hehe nice pun, still you underestimate turrets compared to the potential of something that isn't an item yet* :P

 



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And yeah I think drones would be awesome. So much more potential than turrets that simply sit there.

 

this is why it could be a problem.

it's like HE-grehnade and Detonator. when devs added a detonator, people stop use grenades, because why they should use it? detonator was better.
than devs nerf detonator, to make a HE more competitive.

if you add drone, which seek target, why people need use static turells which efficiency close to zero?
I can already predict the final balance stats of drones, if it appears in game. Drones will be nerfed into oblivion, to become equal in efficiency with turrets. because like and 6 turrets, 6 drones can kill enemy very fast, so, then devs just make them useless. (how they do it with MG-turells... with rocketeer, with bruiser, with EOC, etc.)


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this is why it could be a problem.
it's like HE-grehnade and Detonator. when devs added a detonator, people stop use grenades, because why they should use it? detonator was better.
than devs nerf detonator, to make a HE more competitive.

if you add drone, which seek target, why people need use static turells which efficiency close to zero?
I can already predict the final balance stats of drones, if it appears in game. Drones will be nerfed into oblivion, to become equal in efficiency with turrets. because like and 6 turrets, 6 drones can kill enemy very fast, so, then devs just make them useless. (how they do it with MG-turells... with rocketeer, with bruiser, with EOC, etc.)


I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. Of course there will be issues seeking balance and deciding on design decisions on how a drone should be fit in with relation to other items and the games balance as a whole. That dosn't mean you don't do it though.
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Weaponized drones forcing the pilot to enter in some sort of remote camera view to control 'em might be a valid approach from both gameplay and balancing stand points. These drones with guns might end up being way too OP (over powered) and unbalanced in the game.

 

Just my 2 cents.


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Weaponized drones forcing the pilot to enter in some sort of remote camera view to control 'em might be a valid approach from both gameplay and balancing stand points. These drones with guns might end up being way too OP (over powered) and unbalanced in the game.

 

Just my 2 cents.

One use Item that you need to temporary sit your mech down, I thought of that but wasn't sure how people would react to it. Nice to see someone else propose this.



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Having them require mandatory remote control which leaves the players mech a static target would be a fine addition - but I think we might want something that indicates the general direction of the player controlling the drone... or if the drone had a very limited range.  I wouldn't want any more game mechanics that reward players for hiding and attempting to bolster their KDR through cowardice.


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