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Hawken is dead.  It is on its last leg and reloaded is not fixing or improving it.  They are working on the next hawken. So do not hold you breath.

 

Hackers and cheaters  run rampant in this game now. (reloaded will not even answer a support ticket so so not bother)

 

Vets  make groups and death ball Noobs all day 

 

Your average beginner does not know what regroup means or even understands that you have to get in a group in TEAM DEATH MATCH. 

 

And god help you if you are support because you will always be last  on your board even if you do damage.   Why is that because to get ZERO points for the damage or assist on the person that took the damage unless he dies,  no Death  no points.   I have done tremendous amounts of damage as pred and gren only get ZERO  points for it.because my team will not push . 

Even though it  took one or two of the enemy's  out of the fray for 20 seconds so they could heal gave my team a few kills because the other team was a few man down  but that does not matter. Support you get totally  Fu%$en in this game.

 

So I have come to several conclusions one just play assault and zerker they are the most op mechs in the game

 

walk and wait

 

attack in swarm one person in swarm then next then next then next

 

emp emp emp it is the most op item in the outside of scanner that breaks pred and infi ability totally. 

 

Orb lord always

 

 

 

If you are the poor Bas%ard that gets the team tat will not team up or support you at all I suggest raider with adv reconstructer  and avd armor fuser.  walk watch radar let them kill teammate that they are working on then attack weakest one or two blitz double around an walk by the time you get back you will be healed and blitz will be active again .... all you can do is  use your  team like bait if they solo

 

If you want to get at the top of the mvp

play gren walk get as close as you can and nuke a person then get out  teh other team will start to focus on you after you get like 7 - 8 kills then you go pred  you will stay mvp  because you dammage ratio is high but you have to get the kills if you do not you damage does not count  i wild say raider and gren are good mechs for burst damage pred is only good to keep them from killing you after you are mvp. eoc can be good but in my opinion for all teh damage done with eoc I get less than half the points for it because teams do not push aggressively enough. 

 

Hackers and exploits I see a lot of people using exploits. Getting above the skyline ( flowers the flowery) does it all the time. His response was you have to get reloaded to respond to the ticket and he is right. ahole that he is.

 

So you have two choices with exploits and hacks in this game three actually

 

Quit the game

Use exploits and hacks yourself

Or three when you see someone hacking using a exploit learn where it is tell you team to move out of that area. They will be forced to move as well.

 

The 4th option would be my choice which would be everyone on both teams stop  and let the hacker or exploiter be focused on and have his team emp him while the enemy team just killed him over and over that would be a effective way to get hackers out of a game you love as a community BUT THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

 

Lastly just play assault and zerker with emp

 

emp shuts down  everything

 

scanner breaks pred and infi

 

personally  I do not see the point anymore of playing a game with such a small community

where one third of the players are hackers and exploiters one third is beginners and one third is vets.

I do not see the point in a game where it is just a toss up weather you will get a fair game or  game where people actually play as a team in team death match.

 

right now your odds of getting a team that death balls are 50 % your skill level does not matter.

You have a 50 % chance to be the team getting death balled

 

If you get three friends in a group and pug you can bring the chances that you death ball up dramatically pick op mechs assult and zerker tech with a heavy and you are on you way to winning in a game that will not be around in six months. 

 

Personally I use to get good games all the  time I am a mid range player that was pretty good at eoc pred and support with gren and a flash raider ....but now no one looks out for team members everyone rushes in and dies no one use cover or radar... and on the other side hackers use aim bot and wall hack all day and are on you instantly when you turn a coner.

 

SO R.I.P hawken you use to be a good game with a good community. Now this game just pisses me off so I will go find something else to play again.

 

Reloaded you should just grow some balls and tell the hawken community that you are making a new game. The fact that is game has as many hackers in it does not give me faith that whatever you create will be free of hackers.

 

 also after reloaded having the game for over a year and a half there are still server and ping issues... why do i get 50 ping and then it jumps to over 600 I do not have that problem with Any other game .. GUESS IS DOES NOT MATTER HAWKEN IS DEAD


Edited by Source_Mystic, 11 May 2016 - 11:25 AM.

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 They are working on the next hawken.

 

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I wonder if you would write the same thing after 10-15 minutes to think about it.


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You know less than John Snow. Fück outta here with your garbage please.
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While I support any kind of negativity I also have to share the fact. Hawken has been dead for a very long time but still breathing with the last strength it has left. 

 

In other words: It has been dead for years and still we are here. 

 

Also, they responded to my name change request as you can see see (in 2 days) :) 

The fact that we have forums and that you can write this is also a sign it is not dead (yet). We already had a time without forums.


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K, bye.


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It is on its last leg

 

I don't know why I found this so funny. I just can't stop imagining a zerker with one leg, a grey beard and a walking stick hopping around the battlefield.


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"Man, Hawken is dead! I should go tell all the people that still play Hawken that it's dead so they know too!

 

HOW ELSE WILL THEY KNOW UNLESS I TELL THEM? THEY ARE LIVING A LIE! WAKE UP! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE DEATH! YOU AREN'T PLAYING A LIVING GAME! IT'S DEAD I TELL YOU! DEAAAAADD!!!"


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If a (financially) successful game is a goose that lays golden eggs, then Hawken is a horse that is urinating rather tasty, costy beer. Only that it's a rotting corpse which has been beaten beyond recognition and the guys who bough it are always surprised to find a full bucket when they come to the barn to check on it every few weeks.


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I am a mid range player that was pretty good at eoc pred and support with gren and a flash raider


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oh my god how are you this bad


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So... we are digital necrophiliacs?


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Have you ever considered that maybe your play style and how you play might be the problem? First thing I see you do is go off on other people and how they let you down because you're doing all this fantastic work.  Maybe you need to shape up to not have terrible experiences in the game.  When you have a problem, you don't even bother looking inwards towards yourself for improvement.  Maybe that's why you're not that good at the game, and maybe that's why you're not having a good experience, and maybe that's why you want to quit.  You don't bother with improving yourself, just relying on your team to carry you through when most of the time you don't carry your own weight.

 

You literally want points for shooting grenades at empty space because you're allegedly "denying enemies that space."  You want to get rewarded for doing nothing but waste shots, and you have the nerve to complain that your team isn't doing anything impactful to help you win? And you're complaining and threatening to quit? Over bad pub experiences where teamwork is practically nil regardless because that's just online pub multiplayer in practically every game ever?

 

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Ok.... Im am soo gonna go here...

 

( SORRY ABOUT IT!!)

 

Source....

 

You enter a game, you start CAPPING commands and insults through chat every 2 seconds ( this obviously means your spend more time TYPING than playing )  You insult EVERYONE on the server within the space of 2 mins and and say they everyone else is playing the game wrong... while you YOLO SOLO....

I have lost count of the amount of times you have hackused people in a match ( even ME ) and im not even a that great a player....

 

You play the same couple mechs every time, walk about NOT looking behind you etc etc FIRING away and boosting putting yourself on radar and wondering why you get taken out so quick. you have a respectable PING in matchs ( compared to mine ) but you spend more time, as SILVER says above Abusing people and pointing blame because they "dont take advantage of your support" but also as SIlver states above, you dont contribute to the kill count etc etc....

 

I understand that your " area denial " tactics are MEANT to do but i also understand that its Hawken... and that dont really win matchs...

 

MY suggestion :::

 

get a fuzzy bunnyen vulcan, and start working WITH your team and aiming AT the enemies... area suppression etc is not as helpful and carpet bombing the fuzzy bunny out the opposing team, ( even if you did use the rev GL )

 

As to a Point Of reference

 

https://youtu.be/3coUbJCBV9M?t=7m41s

 

Source Here is a couple Examples of YOU not paying attention and "yolo solo" in a game we played together....

 

7.41 I walk up behind you.... and again 2 mins later,

 

your radar awareness is near zero,

your often abusive and be-littling in chat

you expect the team to play YOUR way

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I COULD go on and on but my point here has been proven several times over...

 

Hawken is NOT dead dude, but IF you want man, we can jump in game do some 1v1s and I can give you a few tips for that nador and fuzzy bunny, try help you out...

 

I understand your frustrations but I dont approve of the finger pointing....

that is childish

 

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oh my god how are you this bad

 

 

Quoting because I like this so much.  So much.


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Please don't leave.  You're one of the few fellow Predator players that I can actually kill ...


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Please don't leave.  You're one of the few fellow Predator players that I can actually kill ...

 

You have no idea how much this actually made me laugh....

 

No offense to you kittens, GG!!


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LOL

       

THIS fuzzy bunny IS SO FUNNY



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thats why we are all laughing SOOOO much mystic...

 

I mean your a good guy and all but seriously, this thread was a a waste of your time and tissues


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You should check my mmr now I was tanking it deliberately I bet it was even worse now lol

 

seriously

 I wanted to see what the lowest possible mmr was I already uninstalled it so it really dose  not matter.   what it comes  down to is this game is not fun anymore full of hackers vets that are ridiculously good and beginners that all get thrown in the same game. I  will be going to two other game that do not have hackers and that I have alot of fun with hawken has just turned into a pile in my opinion and i know for a fact that the community is smaller.

 

You still have fun play it I am out


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I didnt actualy realize your MMR was lower than mine man, i mean you were playing when i first started 2-3 years ago

 

mine floats arounf 1550-1700 but i am playing from NZ, so my ping dont help....

 

but seriosuly man, if you want Im happy to try give you a few of my noobish pointers that helped ME at least


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 My game has been running like fuzzy bunny and I get ping spikes that are unbelievable normally i get between 50 and 80. lately I have been getting insane spikes  988 was what i got today and that is when i just say fu^%K this. just reformatted my computer everything runs smooth  and great except this game .  As for tips i am good  i no longer want to play death-ball it is neither fun  doing it or being on the reviving side of it. i run into people that hack daily.  And i am not cool with that. Be good be bad but do not hack.

 

I have found several games that are more involved better community and that produce content on a monthly as well as add new maps modes of play and run events every weekend or more ... so no big loss.  this game went the way of loadout and I see a trend in free to play games that very few seem to break.



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k bye 


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Please don't leave.  You're one of the few fellow Predator players that I can actually kill ...

I... can't... stop... laughing


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What's funny, is this presentation of information would actually work on a good number of people in a larger game population. However with such a small audience to hear your influential speech, and while every one of us is pretty well informed on how the game currently functions; this borderline fear-mongering and very bold exaggerations on how the matchmaking quality has decreased over time just wont be bought into. You'd have better luck copy pasting this fuzzy bunny in pub matches


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What's the big fuzzy bunnyng deal? Lots of amazing people have committed suicide, and they turned out alright.

 


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I think my favorite about this thread is the alcohol poisoning Mystic has coming.


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You know less than John Snow. Fück outta here with your garbage please.


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You should check my mmr now I was tanking it deliberately I bet it was even worse now lol

 

seriously

 I wanted to see what the lowest possible mmr was I already uninstalled it so it really dose  not matter. 

 

You still have fun play it I am out

 

Man, you make some really solid points. However, after some contemplative introspection, I've decided that I need to confirm a few things before I can truly appreciate your wisdom. It'll be easy and quick.

 

If you said the below statement aloud, would it be true? You can just respond - or even PM me - "yes" or "no".

 

"Recently I decided that Hawken was not the game for me. Afterwards, I decided to continue playing the game I disliked enough to stop playing, but only to perform an experiment to see how low my MMR could go. For context, I did this in lieu of asking the forum "How low can MMR go?", which I understand is a small enough question that it could fit in the subject of a new post. Afterwards, I uninstalled Hawken.

 

Some time after uninstalling Hawken, I decided that I would make a new thread on the Hawken official forums. I then typed a 1,012-word post that was, by my best estimate, comprised of equal parts advice, complaints, and unfiltered written monologue regarding the dead game they somehow still played. All of these parts were thoroughly mixed together and then flung across my browser window as I typed.

 

Once posted, I lurked until the community began to disrespect my MMR. I defended its honor with what can be interpreted as either (1) a lame lie or (2) a hilarious truth. I then said "I am out", but we all know that's not true, because less than an hour later I responded to another post."

 

Did I get all that?


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-words and things-

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Hackers and cheaters  run rampant in this game now. (reloaded will not even answer a support ticket so so not bother)


Tiggs replied to me today (13 hours ago).

OMG DED!
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PS: your other thread calling out Reloaded used waay more CAPS. I think that is why this thread isn't being taken as seriously. It needs MORE CAPS.

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