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So on the front page of the www.playhawken.com website there's the link to the item, mech, and weapon description section of the website, but lets just take a moment to appreciate the mech in the icon for the button.

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Ok, its clearly a predator, but with a T-32 in place of its EoC predator and...

Wtf even is that in its primary arm?

is it... like a weird reflak or something? it doesn't look like the breacher but i can be wrong


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Weird Pred is Weird


 

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So on the front page of the www.playhawken.com website there's the link to the item, mech, and weapon description section of the website, but lets just take a moment to appreciate the mech in the icon for the button.

KcfoLRV.png

Ok, its clearly a predator, but with a T-32 in place of its EoC predator and...

Wtf even is that in its primary arm?

is it... like a weird reflak or something? it doesn't look like the breacher but i can be wrong

 

Grenade launcher, held upright. The model is mirrored. Likely Pusher, before its chassis (Hon, possibly) was ready.



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Sorry Amid that looks nothing like the grenade launcher, this is just my opinion, possibly a little far-fetched but to me it looks exactly like the Eoc-P that has three barrels instead, i also found this thing:

 

If you look closely at the part where the barrel is attached to, that orange part has those dark spots on it, just like if it

originally had three barrels attached to it but it was later changed for some reason.

 

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Maybe it's an old screenshot from a 'prototype predator', or maybe i just have too much time.


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don't you kink shame me for bolt pred


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don't you kink shame me for bolt pred

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Grenade launcher, held upright. The model is mirrored. Likely Pusher, before its chassis (Hon, possibly) was ready.

Pusher -->Hon chassis? Whatchu mean doe


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Wasn't the EOC-Predator first planned to shoot multiple mines at a time, but it got scrapped before release due to balancing issues?

 

I remember hearing it a short while after the mech was released.



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It's transmechxual, a Pred transitioning from a Raider. I personally support its courage to be coming out like this.
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Pusher -->Hon chassis? Whatchu mean doe

 

The Hon was the only completed, unreleased ingame model at the time of the Great Silence and the ADH devs said the Pusher was virtually done - there's not really another model they could have used.



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If you look closely at the part where the barrel is attached to, that orange part has those dark spots on it, just like if it
originally had three barrels attached to it but it was later changed for some reason.
 
Maybe it's an old screenshot from a 'prototype predator', or maybe i just have too much time.


Thats exactly what it is, I have every 3D model and texture extracted from the game assets from every patch since Alpha 2. Many art assets would show up a patch or two ahead of the actual mech release. I used to render them out and discuss them with others in private to speculate what we were going to see next. The early EOC-Predator model had 3 barrels, at some point it was modified to the one barrel when it was finally released publicly. The texture of the main body was never modified which is why you still see those 3 black dots where the individual barrels would be.

If someone wants I can dig up renderings of the weapon I did years ago.


The Hon was the only completed, unreleased ingame model at the time of the Great Silence and the ADH devs said the Pusher was virtually done - there's not really another model they could have used.


WRONG.

There are completed mech chassis that have been ready for years, some were ready and used in the Closed Alphas and Closed Betas, which was years before "The Great Silence".

The Alpha contained the following:

(A class)
Kerby
Mobi
Boot *
Spree *
Zos *

(B class)
Hon
Hiefram *
Muller *
Pat *
Res *

(C class)
36M
Falum
Brass *
Cupcake *
Domoff *

* = known chassis

Even RIGHT NOW now currently, theres these completed mechs in the game including the ones above.

(A class)
Nief
Proct

(B class)
Ord
Jobs

(C class)
Gedes

Thats 10 completed models, all fully textured and ready to be used at any moment. The art team had finished the majority of these mechs way before the idea of the pusher was ever conceived. This can be confirmed by looking at the localization files for every patch, where in the beginning you see roles such as forager, and demolition, and then more recently (after ascension) the mentioning of pusher and siege tank.

The truth is it could of been any one of those mech chassis and really nobody but the Devs knew which one they were going to use. Maybe Vana leaked it, but I never heard anyone discuss it in secret which one it was going to be.
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Ok, its clearly a predator, but with a T-32 in place of its EoC predator and...
Wtf even is that in its primary arm?


Also, the old Devs were really bad about using mirrored images and not realizing it. Part of this has to do with the Unreal engine mirroring the models around one axis (for example along the gun barrel). So every rendering that was done outside of the game in Maya, 3D Studio, Blender, or whatever software you use is physically mirrored when compared to something rendered inside the game. Its an easy fix, but one they never managed to take notice of, and adjust it every time it cropped up.

So what you are seeing in its primary arm, isn't really its primary arm. Take a look at where the "filter canister" or "turbo blow off valve" looking item is located on the ductwork on the front of the mech. Also, if you follow the ductwork to to the upper shoulder, you'll see the shoulder of the primary arm has an area that bumps out that doesn't exist on the secondary side, on the image for the button that bump is on the wrong side of the mech. So clearly the image is mirrored.
 
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Wasn't the EOC-Predator first planned to shoot multiple mines at a time, but it got scrapped before release due to balancing issues?

 

I remember hearing it a short while after the mech was released.

 

This, the EOC-P originally shot 3 mines at a time, but that was obviously some radically unbalanced burst damage.



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This, the EOC-P originally shot 3 mines at a time, but that was obviously some radically unbalanced burst damage.

 

Knowing ADH, you could probably have the following:

 

- inability to change a numerical value in a line of code

- inability to code in fixed spread that doesn't involve camera panning

- someone said rumors about someone saying that one's cousin can't understand 3 projectiles at once, hence it was scrapped

- MTR spending the dev money on a Hawken theme park concept that would arouse the interest of 10 billion visitors each year, but they ran out so they had to saw off the weapon's extra barrels for precious metals to fund the Hawken collectible card game


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Why are we even having this discussion?



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Why are we even having this discussion?

Its this or excistensial questioning with Tickle.

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its also the mech icon at the top in the garage


I do appreciate the art, but I don't have time to find anything good. /h/


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Its this or excistensial questioning with Tickle.

 

Here, lemme see if this works.

 

"Laphroaig"


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Here, lemme see if this works.

 

"Laphroaig"

Eh. I'll take it.

 

Lagavulin or Ardbeg next time.


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