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Devs, I beg you. Making Nief as a Xbox and PS4 Exclusive! WIth his Green/Blue unique camo.

Let the Consoles be Unique!!!

It is a super cool compromiss, please, i don't wnat see IT on my very-cheap-ugly-PC because i'am PC-baba-ji-s?rub.

Let it happen pls!

and everyone be happy. let console-players say me in face: "Ha-ha PC-s?rub, look at may exclusive Nief, you s?rub never have it on your PC!!! Mwahahaha!!!"


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Edited by nepacaka, 02 July 2016 - 12:55 AM.

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how about we get a duel Heat cannon mech instead of this madness, That would be nice.


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Devs, I beg you. Making Nief as a Xbox and PS4 Exclusive!

I don't know...

All or nothing.

Because if we start doing "Only Xbox gets this, Only PS4 gets that, PC something different" then I'd just like my PC Hawken not touched at all.

 

Let the Consoles be Unique!!!

Let the consoles be Unique. Howken on consoles and Hawken on PC.


Edited by Sorroritas, 02 July 2016 - 01:37 AM.

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Because if we start doing "Only Xbox gets this, Only PS4 gets that, PC something different" then I'd just like my PC Hawken not touched at all.

 

Because no need create a stupid mechs in future with dual auto guidance weapons and insane DPS which deal 800dmg in 3 second (i.e. press F to win). yes?


Edited by nepacaka, 02 July 2016 - 01:47 AM.

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Or they could just remove it period

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or they can simply close the PC version of the game because it is unprofitable


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I do not know what you've snapped at him. Mech just a little touch up and all would be well: simply remove homing in twin-Seekers and in fact he will be like Heat-canon. And Abilities leave such as it is - with the homing and high rate of fire.

 

I do not understand why everyone suddenly ass on fire? Are you afraid of the berserker that flies over the enemies? And into him Nephilim discharge the abilities? If you were on the ideal distance for Nephilim, then who is to blame? You blame yourself, idiot that does not know how to combat with other mechs. Why did not climb cuddle with Brawler? 

 

Or you have forgotten how to use shelter and dodges?

 

In general I am disappointed not to narrow-mindedness and the desire to make the game something new. You remind of old grandmothers in the courtyard, who need only bench.


Edited by Anichkov3, 02 July 2016 - 04:01 AM.

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or they can simply close the PC version of the game because it is unprofitable

What about NO.


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Personally, I can live with the Nief if they seriously toned down. Not even an Ability-popped Vulgren or Vulcan Zerker can kill a Brawler that fast.


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Personally, I can live with the Nief if they seriously toned down. Not even an Ability-popped Vulgren or Vulcan Zerker can kill a Brawler that fast.

I watch stream with nief, it just annihilate bers in less than second, and even airdodge not help, bers can't evade his rockets.

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I do not know what you've snapped at him. Mech just a little touch up and all would be well: simply remove homing in twin-Seekers and in fact he will be like Heat-canon. And Abilities leave such as it is - with the homing and high rate of fire.

I do not understand why everyone suddenly ass on fire? Are you afraid of the berserker that flies over the enemies? And into him Nephilim discharge the abilities? If you were on the ideal distance for Nephilim, then who is to blame? You blame yourself, idiot that does not know how to combat with other mechs. Why did not climb cuddle with Brawler?

Or you have forgotten how to use shelter and dodges?

In general I am disappointed not to narrow-mindedness and the desire to make the game something new. You remind of old grandmothers in the courtyard, who need only bench.

Lol, did you realise if brubler dead in 3 sec, rocketeer will be pretty dead in 2 sec.

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G2-Brawler, C-class mech concept: https://community.pl...pacaka-is-here/

Kinetik, B-class mech concept: https://community.pl...ass-shotgunner/

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Lol, did you realise if brubler dead in 3 sec, rocketeer will be pretty dead in 2 sec.

Pfff

LOL

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Berserker eliminates fatty brawler for 3 seconds with coppers

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or they can simply close the PC version of the game because it is unprofitable

Aside from the PC game becoming a clone of the console versions.....This has me worried (scared) the most.  :unsure:


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Devs, I beg you. Making Nief as a Xbox and PS4 Exclusive! WIth his Green/Blue unique camo.Let the Consoles be Unique!!!
It is a super cool compromiss, please, i don't wnat see IT on my very-cheap-ugly-PC because i'am PC-baba-ji-s?rub.
Let it happen pls!and everyone be happy. let console-players say me in face: "Ha-ha PC-s?rub, look at may exclusive Nief, you s?rub never have it on your PC!!! Mwahahaha!!!"pls...



Noooo nonoo no NOOOOO!
Haha do anything else BUT KEEPING A MECH AWAY from me!!!

Especially a mech that does double BEBEBE BEEEEEEEP, BEBEBE BEEEEEEEEEEP
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I WANT THE DUAL SEEKER ZERKZERK!





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I do not know what you've snapped at him. Mech just a little touch up and all would be well: simply remove homing in twin-Seekers and in fact he will be like Heat-canon. And Abilities leave such as it is - with the homing and high rate of fire.

 

I do not understand why everyone suddenly ass on fire? Are you afraid of the berserker that flies over the enemies? And into him Nephilim discharge the abilities? If you were on the ideal distance for Nephilim, then who is to blame? You blame yourself, idiot that does not know how to combat with other mechs. Why did not climb cuddle with Brawler? 

 

Or you have forgotten how to use shelter and dodges?

 

In general I am disappointed not to narrow-mindedness and the desire to make the game something new. You remind of old grandmothers in the courtyard, who need only bench.

 

 

I had to like this.  Nephilim!


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Dual Seeker with rapid fire ability. This sounds like my kind of mech! Lay back, hold RMB + LMB, free kills!


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I do not know what you've snapped at him. Mech just a little touch up and all would be well: simply remove homing in twin-Seekers and in fact he will be like Heat-canon. And Abilities leave such as it is - with the homing and high rate of fire.

 

I do not understand why everyone suddenly ass on fire? Are you afraid of the berserker that flies over the enemies? And into him Nephilim discharge the abilities? If you were on the ideal distance for Nephilim, then who is to blame? You blame yourself, idiot that does not know how to combat with other mechs. Why did not climb cuddle with Brawler? 

 

Or you have forgotten how to use shelter and dodges?

 

In general I am disappointed not to narrow-mindedness and the desire to make the game something new. You remind of old grandmothers in the courtyard, who need only bench.

 

If perhaps I didn't lose customization on the other mechs this might be true but being locked into certain weapons, items, internals, and much slower dodge cool downs across the board (Scout withstanding) then I might agree with you that this isn't really a problem and something that could be easily dealt with.

 

BUT!

 

I did lose my choice of items, internals, and weapon choice on my mechs. I will find myself much slower with dodging and unable to avoid fire like I could before. When a C-Class mech has a nearly 2 second dodge cool down there isn't a great amount it can do against something that is fast, has a far quicker dodge cool down, has air dodge, and greater air mobility it isn't hard to see who has the advantage in majority of situations, especially with how open some of the maps are and were already open to Hellfire abuse.

 

This isn't just a double Seeker A-Class being added into the Hawken we know and love, this is a double Seeker A-Class being added as a real money purchase only and everything else is changing around it leaving players with far less options on how to counter something like this.


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I do not understand why everyone suddenly ass on fire?

Huh? Did I miss something?

Mind you, I'm a pyromaniac...

 

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Nief don't have shield + orbs and its dual seeker DPS is "only" 64DPS per weapon.

 

So I guess it won't be that much gamebreaking.


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I think exclusives mechs may be in PS4 and xBox compared with each other.

 

But on the PC must be absolutely complete set of mechs. All 66 mechs, which in the future will be a great option for the player. For the strongest pilots Hawken.

 

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I think exclusives mechs may be in PS4 and xBox compared with each other.

 

But on the PC must be absolutely complete set of mechs. All 66 mechs, which in the future will be a great option for the player. For the strongest pilots Hawken.

 

https://community.pl...ole-comparison/

 

Nief don't have shield + orbs and its dual seeker DPS is "only" 64DPS per weapon.

 

So I guess it won't be that much gamebreaking.

 

 

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But into a more serious note, I don't think giving us less choice is a good idea with so much taken out of the game. If people don't want to play or play against the Nief and if really it is that bad of a nuisance or that much over powered, it will change with time anyways with tweaks. In the case of hawken state I think we just want to see more stuff released and then tweak it after.

 

 

I mean have anyone played it yet or played against it?

If yes I'd like to see some streams and also how you can recap your overal experience if it's really that much over powered or is it just because you're already a high tier player who had the luck to try Howken vs new player or you were a new player yourself or even mid tier player and played against a high tier player using Nief making it seem OP but the player himself is beyond your level of skill...

Let the devs and/or community collect data on how balanced or unbalanced it is. Let the current players adapt to the changes after a month or so and see how then feel then.

Please don't break RLD momentum in releasing new mech (different weapons combinations) we need them to just spit out so much more content...


Edited by Luaq, 02 July 2016 - 12:16 PM.


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competitve gameplay (huh, can't believe i say it) can't be reached with P2W mech (should i remember tha Nif is P2W only?). this is most of my think + we no need another aimbot mech, actually. one which already exist is enough. 

the second thing. you know guys, (90% sure) if reloaded add this, and it will be OP etc. they DON'T nerf or balance it. because they can't/don't want. because it is P2W mech acquired for $. this is how it working, and you know it now. 
when/if they added IT in game. and when you asking nerf IT...they don't. remember it.


Edited by nepacaka, 02 July 2016 - 12:33 PM.

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competitve gameplay (huh, can't believe i say it) can't be reached with P2W mech (should i remember tha Nif is P2W only?). this is most of my think + we no need another aimbot mech, actually. one which already exist is enough. 

the second thing. you know guys, (90% sure) if reloaded add this, and it will be OP etc. they DON'T nerf or balance it. because they can't/don't want. because it is P2W mech acquired for $. this is how it working, and you know it now. 
when/if they added IT in game. and when you asking nerf IT...they don't. remember it.

Maybe you're right or Maybe they'll actually LEARN to get their stuff right or fail in the end. It's all on their shoulders. But "banning" or keeping a mech out of choices is just giving them a reason to slack off/ease the possibility that they won't do anything with this op mech to balance it or any other mech that would have this P2W feeling. Though they have made some new "balance" tweaks for the console releases which will also be for PC eventually. So at some point they do balance. At least they started doing it. Would be surprised if it were a one time thing. Only thing to doubt is if they'll do it right. But when console players will start to complain as much as pc, they'll have no choice to work it or quit it.


Edited by Luaq, 03 July 2016 - 10:27 AM.





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