... ok - deleted ...
senseless, anyway...
Edited by gArphEus, 23 December 2015 - 04:54 PM.
... ok - deleted ...
senseless, anyway...
Edited by gArphEus, 23 December 2015 - 04:54 PM.
find me and see how nasty a battle Tech can be.
maybe.
maybe not, depends.
not really. i suck, but i get a zerk or scoot now and then.
and likely not soon enough, k-s.
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"...oh great Itzamna, you shall know Us by the trail of Dead."
find me and see how nasty a battle Tech can be.
maybe.
maybe not, depends.
not really. i suck, but i get a zerk or scoot now and then.
and likely not soon enough, k-s.
played a battle tech numerous times myself... with great success...
... And like he has 45 posts so he should know better but he just somehow doesn't what even is this
i know better, but i don't like it, as it is actually... - or still...
...a word 2 uncle Amid... what makes u believe i didn't learn anything after playing ova moa than a 1000 hours? I CAN handle A-classes, even when they r airborne i'm able 2 shoot 'em down like skeets usually - even with my Breacher and EOC Predator. But the problem still is - i have to SEEEEEE them! - Got it, guy??? As long as i can SEEEEE them!!! However, when 4 - 6 airdodging Scouts/Zerkers appear on my screen, my FPS get down soooo looow, that i'm completely unable to anticipate which direction they'll dodge next, although my GPU is a RADEON R9 280 OX from Gigabyte with 3 GB VRAM, so the reason isn't a 5H1TTY PC or bad graphic settings, nor a bad connexion.
I'm still riddling what the reason 4 that damn A-class-triggered LAG is, but fact is - it occurs only when many hishspeeding A-classes cross my FOV. And that's exactly the condition when they really benefit from their lightspeed enormously, because THEN they warp around totally unpredictable, AND no1 can react decently to their actions. THAT's a unreasonable condition plus extreme mechspeed, causing 2gether guaranteed defeat - not the lack of skills.
Put in simple words, just 4 u my dear - I CAN ONLY REACT 2 WHAT I CAN SEEEEEE! Others also stated the same ingame, so i assume, they have the same or similiar problems...
But in the end u r right, Amid - y talk about it? - it doesn't make any difference, won't change anything, and most likely, won't be handled in the upcoming patch, too, so best is - we all stay silent and deviled to the bone...
Edited by gArphEus, 24 December 2015 - 01:46 AM.
Bad day?
...really bad, dude...
Anyway - merry X-mas, love & peace and a better HAWKEN 4 all here... ( ...but Scout's 'n Zerkers, hehehe... XD )
u play 1000 hrs and don't know about... config? Babaji can solve all the problems with you lags! :DBut the problem still is - i have to SEEEEEE them! - Got it, guy??? As long as i can SEEEEE them!!! However, when 4 - 6 airdodging Scouts/Zerkers appear on my screen, my FPS get down soooo looow, that i'm completely unable to anticipate which direction they'll dodge next, although my GPU is a RADEON R9 280 OX from Gigabyte with 3 GB VRAM, so the reason isn't a 5H1TTY PC or bad graphic settings, nor a bad connexion.
...
Kompotka 3000. 2D ha?ken game: https://community.pl...ve/?hl=kompotka
Interceptor, B-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...itdefence-mech/
Challenger, C-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...ccepted-thread/
G2-Brawler, C-class mech concept: https://community.pl...pacaka-is-here/
Kinetik, B-class mech concept: https://community.pl...ass-shotgunner/
Melter, A-class mech concept: https://community.pl...-class-support/
...a word 2 uncle Amid... what makes u believe i didn't learn anything after playing ova moa than a 1000 hours? I CAN handle A-classes, even when they r airborne i'm able 2 shoot 'em down like skeets usually - even with my Breacher and EOC Predator. But the problem still is - i have to SEEEEEE them! - Got it, guy??? As long as i can SEEEEE them!!! However, when 4 - 6 airdodging Scouts/Zerkers appear on my screen, my FPS get down soooo looow, that i'm completely unable to anticipate which direction they'll dodge next, although my GPU is a RADEON R9 280 OX from Gigabyte with 3 GB VRAM, so the reason isn't a 5H1TTY PC or bad graphic settings, nor a bad connexion.
I'm still riddling what the reason 4 that damn A-class-triggered LAG is, but fact is - it occurs only when many hishspeeding A-classes cross my FOV. And that's exactly the condition when they really benefit from their lightspeed enormously, because THEN they warp around totally unpredictable, AND no1 can react decently to their actions. THAT's a unreasonable condition plus extreme mechspeed, causing 2gether guaranteed defeat - not the lack of skills.
Put in simple words, just 4 u my dear - I CAN ONLY REACT 2 WHAT I CAN SEEEEEE! Others also stated the same ingame, so i assume, they have the same or similiar problems...
But in the end u r right, Amid - y talk about it? - it doesn't make any difference, won't change anything, and most likely, won't be handled in the upcoming patch, too, so best is - we all stay silent and deviled to the bone...
I don't know if this has to do with A-classes or not, but Frankfurt and Amsterdam got so bad for me lately (cca. 3 weeks ago) that I stopped playing.
And I was already playing with custom Baba-Ji config with reduced graphics on a system that runs Battlefield 4 nice and smooth.
Edited by someone, 24 December 2015 - 04:42 PM.
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u play 1000 hrs and don't know about... config? Babaji can solve all the problems with you lags! :D
People who play more than 1k hrs no need graphics to be a tru warrior.
Radar.
Little known fact about hawken: radar is not unlocked until somewhere between 1700 - 2000 mmr. No one knows the exact number, but before then you have to use scanner to access radar.

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Little known fact about hawken: radar is not unlocked until somewhere between 1700 - 2000 mmr. No one knows the exact number, but before then you have to use scanner to access radar.
Are you just pulling on my robot leg ?
*+
SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED TO BE BAPTISED BY THE FIRE OF THE BLINKING RED LIGHT. THOU DOETHEST NEED TO SEE WHEN GUIDED BY THE EOC BROTHER !! BY THE EVERLASTING WISDOM OF THE GREAT PUCK SHALL YOU PREVAIL AND NON BELIEVERS SHALL BE LAID LOW !!! THE CULT ALWAYS PREVAILS !
...wow... May i get the same drugs you took, dude? Their effects must be AMAZING!
lol
u play 1000 hrs and don't know about... config? Babaji can solve all the problems with you lags! :D
People who play more than 1k hrs no need graphics to be a tru warrior.
Thx Nepa! I optimized my graphic setting as described in a Youtube video aeons ago, and it runs absolutely smooth since then - except when there is half a dozen of Scouts and Zerkers zigzagging 3 times per second in my FOV. A single 1 Scout/Zerker i can handle, 2 might b a very bad idea 2 engage, but more is really insane, because the more show up, there more lag also occurs until they warp unpredictable and i cannot even c their TOWs incoming - so there's no way 2 evade them... I believe, that special lag effect is related to the many moves per second they do added 2gether, thus slowing down the whole server immensely, somehow. Just my theory, however - it isn't ordinary lag - my ping usually stays between 50 and 60, and i can handle that without problem. But as soon as at least 3 A-classes begin 2 dodge in front of me, the former fluid and smooth gameplay turns in2 a hell of incredible high lag.
I don't know if this has to do with A-classes or not, but Frankfurt and Amsterdam got so bad for me lately (cca. 3 weeks ago) that I stopped playing.
And I was already playing with custom Baba-Ji config with reduced graphics on a system that runs Battlefield 4 nice and smooth.
Same to me dude. Frankfurt was bad, but all Amsterdams even worse mostly. My system can run the newest games on highest resolution and max settings usually, so i don't think, the problem is caused by my PC. I believe it's the servers, too... It also not happens on every server - some days i can play 4 hours without having a single issue, but the next day it can turn to an awful desaster of below 10 FPS every match. I really wonda why this is so...
Radar.
LOL! ... unbelievable... U really didn't understand it, did you, Amid? Whenever 3 or more Scouts and or Zerkers or other A-classes of the enemy team appear in my FOV, and dodge like hell, my FPS drop down like a sinking ship, so rapidly and so consequently, that everything i actually see, already happened a whole second before, so a look onto the radar is a glance into the past at best, thus absolutely vain. Guess i don't have 2 xplain, what 3 Scouts can do in just a second - especially, when they have a head start of 1 second or more... And that wasn't always like it is now. As mentioned b4, my Pc is capable of running the newest games usually flawless in highest resolution with max settings. However - i adjusted my HAWKEN graphic settings to very low detail and FX as recommended in a YouTube 4 much more fluid gameplay long time ago, and that even improved the performance. This is why i blame it on the servers meanwhile. And that's y i call the Scouts and Berserkers are op - because the regular crappy server conditions allow them to benefit disproportionally much of the "lag" they induce by themselves, when they are more than 3 per team, and attack 2gether in groups. Don't pin me on the exact count - that varies apparently, but the effect is clearly there, allthough not on every server everytime. I died instantly many times the same way - 1st moment i didn't notice any enemies in mobile scanner range on the radar, and in the next second they r suddenly all above me, and 3 TOWS and lots of HEAT and Flak and vulcan bullets impact on me, just right b4 i c 2 Scouts and a Zerker boosting away from my last position...no chance to do ANYTHING...
Little known fact about hawken: radar is not unlocked until somewhere between 1700 - 2000 mmr. No one knows the exact number, but before then you have to use scanner to access radar.
Everything is fine, crock...
it's ok...
Sit...
Relax....
i really hope, this isn't infectuosly...
s it, dude? ...
Is it? ...
Hey crock! ...
crock? ...
r u there???
...
See, the problem is your head. If you could extrapolate from information about 40-250ms old, you'd know where people were (that's the radar info), and can manage the front-face (mainscreen) information to put ordnance where it needs to be and win.
I mean, I do. Whycantyou?
Did I say Call Me Ishmael?
You should call me Luna.
Everything is fine, crock...
it's ok...
Sit...
Relax....
i really hope, this isn't infectuosly...
s it, dude? ...
Is it? ...
Hey crock! ...
crock? ...
r u there???
...
Color me confused

Salvage: An Idea to Stop Leavers
Kompotka 3000. 2D ha?ken game: https://community.pl...ve/?hl=kompotka
Interceptor, B-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...itdefence-mech/
Challenger, C-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...ccepted-thread/
G2-Brawler, C-class mech concept: https://community.pl...pacaka-is-here/
Kinetik, B-class mech concept: https://community.pl...ass-shotgunner/
Melter, A-class mech concept: https://community.pl...-class-support/
...a word 2 uncle Amid... what makes u believe i didn't learn anything after playing ova moa than a 1000 hours? I CAN handle A-classes, even when they r airborne i'm able 2 shoot 'em down like skeets usually - even with my Breacher and EOC Predator. But the problem still is - i have to SEEEEEE them! - Got it, guy??? As long as i can SEEEEE them!!! However, when 4 - 6 airdodging Scouts/Zerkers appear on my screen, my FPS get down soooo looow, that i'm completely unable to anticipate which direction they'll dodge next, although my GPU is a RADEON R9 280 OX from Gigabyte with 3 GB VRAM, so the reason isn't a 5H1TTY PC or bad graphic settings, nor a bad connexion.
I'm still riddling what the reason 4 that damn A-class-triggered LAG is, but fact is - it occurs only when many hishspeeding A-classes cross my FOV. And that's exactly the condition when they really benefit from their lightspeed enormously, because THEN they warp around totally unpredictable, AND no1 can react decently to their actions. THAT's a unreasonable condition plus extreme mechspeed, causing 2gether guaranteed defeat - not the lack of skills.
Put in simple words, just 4 u my dear - I CAN ONLY REACT 2 WHAT I CAN SEEEEEE! Others also stated the same ingame, so i assume, they have the same or similiar problems...
But in the end u r right, Amid - y talk about it? - it doesn't make any difference, won't change anything, and most likely, won't be handled in the upcoming patch, too, so best is - we all stay silent and deviled to the bone...
"I'm still riddling what the reason 4 that damn A-class-triggered LAG is, but fact is - it occurs only when many hishspeeding A-classes cross my FOV. And that's exactly the condition when they really benefit from their lightspeed enormously, because THEN they warp around totally unpredictable, AND no1 can react decently to their actions. THAT's a unreasonable condition plus extreme mechspeed, causing 2gether guaranteed defeat - not the lack of skills."
Sounds to me like you have some graphical issues going on. I used to have your exact same GPU, and it was during a time in which I heavily played Hawken. I never experienced the issues that you've described in your post. It sounds as if you're dealing with network issues if you're seeing them warp around/teleport.
Also, after 1000 hours in an online game, I'd expect you to be able to type in a competent manner. "2gether" is not a word. "Together" is certainly a word.
lrn2type before expressing your gripe.
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If the leaderboards aren't real, then how can our MMR be real?
May I ask, do you have any "bloated" programs that's slowing your PC down in matches? For those who don't know what that is, it's when you have well how should I put it........Useless programs that don't need to be on your PC but are on anyway when your computer is running or on idle. I don't know how every bodies PCs are but I literally don't have any fps drops below 60 on my PC during matches. I'm only using a 970gtx so its no titan or anything and all my setting are on super high. And yes I have more than 1700+ hours into this game if you include when this game wasn't on steam, so I would know if my fps starts dropping. Just listen to Xacius though, if he had the same GPU then he probably on to something.
Merry Christmas, Pilots
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Edited by Silverfire, 25 December 2015 - 10:14 PM.
See, the problem is your head. If you could extrapolate from information about 40-250ms old, you'd know where people were (that's the radar info), and can manage the front-face (mainscreen) information to put ordnance where it needs to be and win.
I mean, I do. Whycantyou?
Haha... ...nice, Lunatic... Well - i can. 40 - 80 ping is good to me, 80 - 150 a bit annoying, but still ok, 150 - 250 hard to cope with, but still possible, but... the "lag" effect i face is FAR beyond that - it seems not to correspond with my ping, but it affects the gameplay like 1000 -2000 ping. My ping generally stays between 50 and 60, and i call that pretty good. You are right - as long as i'm able to extrapolate, what i see, i can "PRE"-act to it - but under 1000+ ping-like conditions you will have a hard time predicting your enemies' next moves, before it's too late, too. After all the amount of delay matters, and i guess the intensity of my problem wasn't clear for you.
I tell you a secret. Half of your problems with a-class can be solved if you go in your small adventure on frontline with your insane razorhead teammates. That's all. They can halp in fight.
When I play with high ping, Brawler help me survive against enemies with 30-40 ping (cuz if you have high ping, enemies with 30 ping just immune for your bullets :D)
Also, lags can't be caused by enemy mechs. If you have cheap PC (for example) you may have fps drop in some place on map. Or if you see too much smoke/effects at one moment.
Enemy "teleporting" probably may caused by your internet connection. I'm very sure that problem not in hawken. Probably, something wrong from your side.
I always stick with the rest of team, except when i play the Predator, because i tend to pervade enemy lines unseen, spot the foes for my team, and help by flanking and finishing escapees.
The Brawler? Well, i own all mechs, some of them twice or even triple with different configurations, and i tried a lot of different easy-to-use mechs, to hold back this bulletproof A-class deathball to distance, and compensate it somehow, but the enemy A-classes always managed to close the gap between us so incredibly fast and unnoticed that we hadn't the slightest chance. One moment they were at the horizon, next moment above me. KA-BOOOM, and i am dead - simple as that. You stated it perfectly: they are bulletproof somehow, due to the delay in the data transmission, but they also gain an insane pseudo-"speed". It seemed that some of my mates had similar problems as me.
About my ping - it stays usually very stable between 50 and 60 when connected to Frankfurt or Amsterdam servers, but the "lag" i faced seemed to occur without any reference to the ping i had that moment - the only thing i noticed, was, that it arises in sync with the appearance of many A-classes in my nearer field of vision. It took me a bit of time to realize that, because it didn't occur everytime on every server, but after many matches on different servers, and a repetitive look onto my ping, i found out, that my ping doesn't reflect the game performance i faced. So i assume correctly that the problem isn't my PC nor my internet connection, agreed? In fact, it ONLY occurred when a lot of enemy players used a Zerker or Scout. Really weird. If the problem is on my side, then i can exclude:
- CPU: 4 x 3000 MHz AMD Quadcore
- GPU: Radeon R9 280 OX, 3GB
- DSL 6000 Connection (very stable provider)
- Router: Fritz!Box (one of the newest models, and i am connected via CAT 6 ethernet cable, as short as possible)
There isn't much what's left then. Crappy servers, and / or cheating A-classes. I believe, it's the servers, because even i - as just an average player - can ambush, outmaneuver and kill unaware enemies easily with a Flak-Scout or a Vulcan-Zerker, so it's easy 2 see what a much more experienced player maining one of these A-classes is able to do. The problem is - if a lot of enemy players use an A-class, the game performance let's me down somehow. I blame it to the servers.
"I'm still riddling what the reason 4 that damn A-class-triggered LAG is, but fact is - it occurs only when many hishspeeding A-classes cross my FOV. And that's exactly the condition when they really benefit from their lightspeed enormously, because THEN they warp around totally unpredictable, AND no1 can react decently to their actions. THAT's a unreasonable condition plus extreme mechspeed, causing 2gether guaranteed defeat - not the lack of skills."
Sounds to me like you have some graphical issues going on. I used to have your exact same GPU, and it was during a time in which I heavily played Hawken. I never experienced the issues that you've described in your post. It sounds as if you're dealing with network issues if you're seeing them warp around/teleport.
Also, after 1000 hours in an online game, I'd expect you to be able to type in a competent manner. "2gether" is not a word. "Together" is certainly a word.
lrn2type before expressing your gripe.
That's very interesting, Xacius. So i bet we were respectively running the same Catalyst drivers then, too. I didn't had such problems months ago, but i am sure to have updated my drivers at least 2 or maybe 3 times by now. I didn't notice any issues in other games, though. I can't imagine it's driver-related problem, exclusively with HAWKEN only... It would be useful to know if anyone else using a Radeon R9 280 OX from Gigabyte running the newest Catalyst driver have the same problems...
About the possible networking issue. Well - i have big problems whenever my son starts massive downloads on his PC of course - the lag that process causes is easy to see, because my ping goes skyrocket like hell. but that's a totally different kind of delay and easy to identify, too. I am absolutely sure that my actual issue is a data transmission failure somehow, and still blame it on the EU servers. Some others stated their actual state as "crappy". too.
About my catastrophic typography... well - you got me. I'm so used to it, that i forget how hard it is to read for others over time and again. I didn't want to overstrain anyone, sorry, And - as you can see - i am able to write decent, too.
May I ask, do you have any "bloated" programs that's slowing your PC down in matches? For those who don't know what that is, it's when you have well how should I put it........Useless programs that don't need to be on your PC but are on anyway when your computer is running or on idle. I don't know how every bodies PCs are but I literally don't have any fps drops below 60 on my PC during matches. I'm only using a 970gtx so its no titan or anything and all my setting are on super high. And yes I have more than 1700+ hours into this game if you include when this game wasn't on steam, so I would know if my fps starts dropping. Just listen to Xacius though, if he had the same GPU then he probably on to something.
Merry Christmas, Pilots
Good point, Onstrava. There are a couple of programs, like my printer control center, the Avast Antivirus and such, that are allowed to update as scheduled, but i always close them all for max performance whitout any disturbance. I even check the taskmanager before i start HAWKEN. Without any noticeable effect to the game performance by now.
Quite frankly, I never experienced any of the problems OP has mentioned and I have had worse hardware currently and prior to the stuff I have now (used to use GTX 550 Ti and GTX 650).
Could be server side or something wrong with the computer hardware wise. Probably fuzzy bunny servers though.
Yep, Silverfire. I tend to believe that some of the EU servers suffer from being overcharged somehow, when too many A-classes play on it simultaneously only. That sounds weird, i know, and i haven't enough technical knowledge to find out, if that's really the root of the matter, that's why i decided to post a request here and get some suggestions by others having more knowledge and experience with these things.
A big thanks to all here for your numerous replys. You are all pretty responsive. Nice. I'll try to knock on every possible issue suggested here twice and find out what it is, that slows down my game performance so utterly. Should i succeed, i promise to post the solution here - just in case someone else has the same problem.
Merry X-mas to you all, and a happy new HAWKEN next year. ;)
Edited by gArphEus, 26 December 2015 - 06:30 AM.
Edited by Silverfire, 26 December 2015 - 09:40 AM.
...really bad, dude...
Anyway - merry X-mas, love & peace and a better HAWKEN 4 all here... ( ...but Scout's 'n Zerkers, hehehe... XD )
Merry Christmas from a Scoot >:3
You have an AMD CPU, Hawken doesn't really like AMD processors at all. Could be the cause of poor performance at times, I know others who have struggled with Hawken with an AMD CPU. AMD GPU seem to do fine, as I have one and others do as well, provided they're paired with Intel.
On the other hand, the problem occurring with just A classes on the servers doesn't make sense to me at all. I know the EU servers suffer a lot, but if so you ought to be seeing performance drops regardless of what mechs are on your screen.
I think by the sound of it, it might be a combination of your AMD CPU and poor EU server performance.
Uh-oh... You scare me to the bone, Silverfire. If my trusty AMD CPU is the problem, at least partially, i have to live with it, until i can afford to exchange my mainboard to an intel one. Many thanks for telling me that, though. I wasn't aware of that. Agreed - meanwhile i'm also convinced, my problem is a chain of unfavorably condtions mixed together, instead of a single cause. Thanks for the CPU hint - I'd never have suspected that as part of the issue.
Merry X-mas, dude.
Merry Christmas from a Scoot >:3
Hahaha... ok, ok... i was just joking, excluding the Scoots and Zerkers... Occasionally i play 'em, too... ;)
A merry X-mas to the Scoots and Zerkers, and a happy new HAWKEN.
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