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what all i think that would make the new players and most of the old player not to leave hawken....

 

1. PINGS!!!!!!!!!! at least each match should be reserved for certain ping ranges (for e.g if sm1 has 100 then all other players should have only a difference of 30-40 from it . some players cant play in their region due to timings or other issues ,n therefore it is a request to arrange matches according to pings in priority to mmr... 

 

2. joining recent players from that friend list column should be banned . the people who become enemies start to irritate and make them lose by entering their team and doing nothing.... they should only be able to check profile and add friend .

 

3. some mechs need to be dealt with ... for e.g - preds cloak now days any1 can beat. im not saying to make it invisible  but at least an increased speed while stalking would be really awesome..

also something about bruiser should be done... its both weapons are completely a useless combo.

idk about hellfires on rocketeer  i leave that disscussion upto u guys .

 

4. give us all that beta version things back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 the day this game came to steam ruining everything!!!!!!!

it was good when turrets had those levels representing damage levels and health ... but now just number of uses!!!!!!!!!!

all items should have some increased qualities per mk-level . not just 1-2-3 uses!!!!!

f***ing detonator cant even take out radar . also steeping on items to destroy them like turrets and scanner/scrambler should be removed .also the mechs radar i dont know how it is designed . it should be a motion tracker when sm1 boostsor flies in trackers radius.

it would also be good if u give us those upgrading mech points back.... they were removed as for sure to make money on internals .  u can keep internals but give us those points back.. all internals that were similar to use of upgrading points can be removed . rest should be kept . if devs will then they can also add at least 2-3 slots for items and internals..

these are small things which i assure u will really improve hawken..


Edited by 09deathstroke, 03 April 2015 - 09:46 AM.


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Well....

 

1. - Good idea, but the community is too small. If we had a bigger community, like several thousand more regular users, it might be a good thing to implement. However, because we don't have that many people regularly playing the game, it wouldn't work as well as if we had lots.

 

2. - Maybe change the option from "Join game" to "Request to join game" - so you can be sent a request and let this person join your game. There should probably also be a 30 second cooldown so they can't spam you with requests - This way you won't be spammed with requests, but can still let people you want to play with into your games.

 

3. - "pred cloak any1 can beat". May I refer you to the Ultimate Pred Guide?  (https://community.pl...predator-guide/)

Pred is a good mech, just hard to use right. Bruiser? Useless? I know of many people who main Bruiser and consistently come top of the leaderboard while using it. Hellfires are also kinda the point of Rocketeer.

 

4. - I believe that the devs implemented the "Uses only" system to items to stop Mk. 3's being overpowered. Having trouble with the detonator's damage? Try the H.E Charge.

 

That is how the radar works. If someone fires their weapons, uses their thrusters or uses an item, they show up on radar. 

 

The idea that Upgrade trees were removed purely to farm money off internals is ridiculous. The Upgrade trees were removed because it gave pros too much of an advantage over noobs, and there were some combinations which were so much better than everything else.

 

May I also request that you check your grammar or at least capitalise the beginnings of your sentences before you post? Some of this was quite hard to understand. 


Edited by Miscellaneous, 03 April 2015 - 10:11 AM.

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also something about bruiser should be done... its both weapons are completely a useless combo.

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Edited by BaconOverLord, 03 April 2015 - 10:27 AM.

  

What if we just give some bacon paint, some bacon holo-emotes and change Bunker from snow to bacon.

 

This way, everyone will be happy.

What you should really do, is replace your parts with bacon, so you can cook games and eat bacon

Obviously the wallpaper would be cooler if bacon was incorporated into it.

 


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*Checks 09deathstroke's profile page*
"member since today, 9:53 AM"
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Forum account creation time is not the same as he game. This guy could have been playing for months before ever visiting the forums.
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Forum account creation time is not the same as he game. This guy could have been playing for months before ever visiting the forums.

fair enough


  

What if we just give some bacon paint, some bacon holo-emotes and change Bunker from snow to bacon.

 

This way, everyone will be happy.

What you should really do, is replace your parts with bacon, so you can cook games and eat bacon

Obviously the wallpaper would be cooler if bacon was incorporated into it.

 


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Nah, I mid-high scoreboard as bruiser, you just have to know how to spam well and shoot around corners/over walls.


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I agree they can give us back the old HUD and the extra damage or effectiveness for the items lvl 2 and 3, since some of that items cost 2 or 3 days of grind and later work the same than a lvl 1 item. The bruiser hellfires need be mastered, you can lock the objetive and aim to the sky to makes rain the missiles to your enemy even if its behind a wall, so i think the bruiser its ok like the internal sistem its ok to me to, but i think many other things can be done. For example the torret mode on heavy mechs dont really give you a protection, you can check how good players never use it because avoid the attacks jumping its better than the little protection who gives that and heavy mechs should have more slots for internals likes medium mechs have more than light mechs.Also can check the Damge nerfed of some weapons likes vulcan, this was nerfed before the new mechs like G2 , predators and etc exist, now i think there its not reason to a prestige vulcan do to low Damage , because there are a lot of new mech overpowered (im thinking on the Incinerator for example) so we need check the nerfed damage of the vulcan, i think enter in a match in the last 10 seconds isnt cool to, they should do something with this. Add a guild sistem. I would like see a gallery of the other players mechs with their names, skins and customizations (i m thinking on a map where you can go visit the market, a mech gallery or the guild manager), and i would like see the Ping of the server before jump in a suicide battle. New maps, weapons and mechs will be cool to if respect the awesome design and style of the actual game. Thats all


Edited by MatsuhiroMaru, 05 April 2015 - 08:25 PM.

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I agree they can give us back the old HUD and the extra damage or effectiveness for the items lvl 2 and 3

Please no, we had a heck of a time getting rid of the vertical progression we were able to, I really don't want to see more added back in.

since some of that items cost 2 or 3 days of grind and later work the same than a lvl 1 item.

You can use them more than once, that alone can make the difference.

there its not reason to a prestige vulcan do to low Damage

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1. Reputation or influence arising from success, achievement, rank, or other favorable attributes.
2. Fistinction or reputation attaching to a person or thing and thus possessing a cachet for others or for the public
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Prestige weapons in hawken are the adjective of the word. They don't have to do more damage.

I would like see a gallery of the other players mechs with their names, skins and customizations (i m thinking on a map where you can go visit the market, a mech gallery or the guild manager)

I kinda like this idea

New maps, weapons and mechs will be cool

Agreed. These will hopefully come in time. Reloaded has a lot to take care of first before new content can be worked on.

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Redacted.


Edited by KilleR_OrigiNs, 30 April 2015 - 09:43 PM.

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Too little, too late.

 

I tried to like it, I really did. I forced myself to put in ~200 hours because it kept being almost fun and I thought I was just missing something. But no, the truth is that Hawken just isn't fun. The anemic economy ("How many hours to earn enough HC for an upgrade?"), toxic community ("L2P, fagn00b!!!111), and server issues have made Hawken one of the LEAST fun games I ever played.

 

But even if not for those, the radar is unusable (a mini-map would be better), the Dodge mechanics and aerial meta makes it difficult unless you're washing down Adderol with Red Bull after doing three lines of coke and impossible if your ping is >100ms, and there is no incentive to play well anyways since you get the same pitiful amount of HC no matter how well/poorly you do.

 

I'm sure the 2400+ MMR die-hards who love pubstomping newbies and casuals will disagree, but honestly, just about everything about Hawken is done better by so many other games that even though my 2TB hard drive is only half full, I can no longer justify allocating a few MB to this game. If the new devs fix the issues with the servers, economy, HUD, MM, and community, maybe there will be fewer people in the future that feel the way I do now.


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Still recovering from a neurological incident, spent a couple months learning how to walk without a cane,

figured I'd try a fast-paced game to see if I could get my reflexes back to where they were.

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Redacted. 


Edited by KilleR_OrigiNs, 30 April 2015 - 09:44 PM.


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Now that I've had a little time to cool off...

 

I'm very sorry for the community. I take that as a personal failure, as I try my hardest to make each game fun for everyone, and yes, the die-hard players often make the game lack-luster.

 

You see, the community of any game is often the most looked-over aspect of it, and though it doesn't seem like it, I promise the HAWKEN community isn't built of people who just want to wreck players because they can. We're filled with good, honest, and thoughtful players that want to see you do better. It's really easy to look over, because those players are indeed often upper tier, and don't get to play with new players very often.

 

That's not your fault. You're only one person, and can only control so much. It probably doesn't help that, for the moment, most of the players are either die-hards or complete newbies who are just getting the hang of the game; there seem to be very few "average" people, at least not in MA and Siege. I don't play much TDM, and don't to free-for-all DM at all, so I suppose it's possible that they exist here, but I don't see them very often.

 

The economy is difficult to get used to, and the mech's are often very difficult to earn.

 

If I had an HC for every time I've said, "I get paid the same either way!", I would probably have bought every mech in the game already! If there were a link between performance and HC earnings, that would go a long way as it would actually incentivize proper play rather than just YOLO-ing. As it stands, I've developed more bad habits and feelings than good mech skills. Why? Because lack of effort doesn't affect my paycheck!

 

Outside of DM, wins are determined by the Matchmaker (team composition), so wins in and of themselves don't really mean much, and KDR and damage ratios are easy to fudge too. Therefore, it would probably be best to base HC off of one's contribution towards the objective, whether the team as a whole wins or loses. For TDM, damage contributes more than kills since an enemy doesn't die from just one shot, so any damage dealt puts the team closer to victory; the person who was lucky enough to fire that final shot doesn't deserve much unless they also fired the shots that took the enemy's HP down to where one shot could kill them. As for MA and Siege, well, damage and kills are merely a means to an end becuase Capture/Defense points, EU transferred, and anti-air missiles launched are what wins those battles.

 

The pricing does need fixing. Between many mechs costing less than some items and a lack of correlation between price and quality, the pricing sheme makes no sense. I don't mind it taking a while to earn a new mech, but 61/2 hours of grinding for a new gun that costs more than new Reaper is... wrong.

 

Unrelated to economics, the radar setup is useless. Minimaps beat something that can't even reach to half of visual range any day. Also, with 247% of the matches being TDM or DM, it's really hard for me to find a server period. Hopefully a higher player population will fix that, but as it stands, the only way I can get a match in is to play modes I detest. I prefer objective-based play; if I just wanted to get in a brawl, I'd skip video games and just do PCP. To me, DM is nothing more than a reflex test where you just spam Dodge while doing your best impoersonation of an Aimbot with zero tactics at all while TDM is the same thing only with peopel who will have your back one second then leave you to die the next. At least MA and Siege require more than just having a seizure with the left hand while using the right to glue your crosshairs somewhere. Maybe doing somehing to fill the non-DM/TDM servers would help things since I know I'm not the only one.

 

 

It's been my personal goal to make HAWKEN's community as friendly as I can, though I don't really have power to do anything with it, I try to pop into threads where there is indeed anger and try to make jokes when I can. Maybe I rub people the wrong way, but I don't care. This game has more potential than any other game I've played, and I mean that. I won't bore you with a list, but please, take my most sincere apology, as I have failed you as a player in helping you enjoy HAWKEN.

 

You do what you can, and that's all you can do. As for potential, I see that, and it's that potential that kept me around. Maybe at a future date when it comes closer to the potential that you and I both see, I will find Hawken enjoyable once more.

 

It's a sad fact, but yes, HAWKEN is indeed not what it could be. You see, it's a game of progress. One that is only just now on the upward swing, and though it's not what it will be, trust me when i say it WILL be great.

The new developers are already working on making games more accessible to players everywhere, all the while trying to figure out just how the actual story line goes, and how to keep the current game a float. I know it's hard, and I don't think I could ask anymore of you, but if you would please keep an eye on this game, I promise it will be fixed shortly.

 

Being effectively abandon-ware for months has had an effect, and not a good one. My brain says you're correct, but my heart just doesn't feel it.

 

I'll keep an eye out for changes though since, despite how I may sound, I am an optimist.


Edited by Jerv, 07 April 2015 - 01:10 AM.

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Still recovering from a neurological incident, spent a couple months learning how to walk without a cane,

figured I'd try a fast-paced game to see if I could get my reflexes back to where they were.

Garage:

A - Infiltrator, Reaper, Technician, Scout

B - Assault (x2), Predator, Raider

C - Brawler, Vanguard, Incinerator


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what all i think that would make the new players and most of the old player not to leave hawken....

 

1. some players cant play in their region due to timings or other issues ,n therefore it is a request to arrange matches according to pings in priority to mmr... 

I feel bad for the players that can't play in their regions.  Probably fuzzybunny, tbh.  

 

 

2. add friend.

Done.  

 

3. something

Completely. 

 

4. give us all that beta version things back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The game definitely needs to go back to a beta state, potentially one where it can receive periodic updates.  With you 100%.  

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I acknowledge I may have written a bit of a book in response Jerv. Forgive me there.

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DM is often a case of who has the better reflexes, and you're right, it's often run by people who have played this game night and day,

 

That is part of why DM is far and away my least favorite mode. I've always been more tactics than twitch anyways, and once I passed the 40 mark (especially after my last hospital stay; hemiplegic migraines suck) I've pretty much relied on old age and treachery over youth and overcaffeination. Heck, I don't even have the reflexes to do the dash-dodge chaining reliably, let alone do it while keeping my crosshairs on an enemy, so I have to make up for it in other ways. Matching wits against those who have more hours on just one map than I do playing the entire game puts me at a double disavantage, so I just play other modes.

 

At least TDM has a semblance of tactics in that, if you are matched with good players, you can do things like Double Envelopment even without comms. Of course, coordination like that is also why I prefer minimaps over radar; I consider the minimap itself to be comms in addition to providing situational awareness. Not the objective-based play I prefer, but far better than just being tossed into DM to be free XP for fast-fingered kids, and better practice than the "Training" modes with bots who play differently from any human opponent.

 

Oh, and I'm happy to report that since the servers have been reconfigured, I haven't had nearly the problems I was having; less name-calling, less pubstomping, and just generally better since the South Americans, Europeans, and Asians got their own regions.


Still recovering from a neurological incident, spent a couple months learning how to walk without a cane,

figured I'd try a fast-paced game to see if I could get my reflexes back to where they were.

Garage:

A - Infiltrator, Reaper, Technician, Scout

B - Assault (x2), Predator, Raider

C - Brawler, Vanguard, Incinerator





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