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Checking the board during the game isn't an issue, which makes switching chassis parts a non-issue (again imo)...but some may feel differently. 


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Some of us have seen 3 or more major gui changes to Hawken.
It's never mattered much at all what the menus look like.
Every once in a while some old alpha fart misses a giant circle x.
But it never really gets in the way of the game.
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Some of us have seen 3 or more major gui changes to Hawken.
It's never mattered much at all what the menus look like.
Every once in a while some old alpha fart misses a giant circle x.
But it never really gets in the way of the game.

 

I've adapted to major speed/TTK changes, Air Compressors, item spam, Incin, G2R, whatever.  What keeps me is the gameplay: I am here to outsmart someone, faster than they can think through what's happening around them.  I get to do that a lot.

 

I'm 50, almost 51, years old.  I get the sense some people 15 years (or more!) my junior aren't anywhere near as adaptable. 

 

It's almost as if they can't think through what's happening around them.


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Well, okay, you can't tell when they're really far away. But the point is that when you CAN see Berserker chassis, your first thought isn't gonna be that it's a Scout.

@Onebullit

The point is that playerbase suspects that they're gonna remove that, and some people are complaining about it. I see it as a positive change.


You're still missing the point and this might be why you're below 2k.

There's a glowing box next to each mech's target box on the HUD with the mech's symbol. This can be determined at ANY range so long as you can see the mech's in question.
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Some people need appearance to confirm a mech? Or do they need over 10 second in TAB to find that icon? GOSH.

 

If they can't get better, maybe we really need few NEWBIE server for them to have their restrictions. 

 

Disability needs attention, but you cant ask people to not use green colour because you cant see it!

 

You want handicap? Stay in your assault.

 

If devs really do that, that is going to be a BIG issue--first, I want my money back--NOT hc, neither MC, not RC if they're going to change that. Then I quit.


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You're still missing the point and this might be why you're below 2k.

There's a glowing box next to each mech's target box on the HUD with the mech's symbol. This can be determined at ANY range so long as you can see the mech's in question.

Oops. I somehow didn't notice this. Somewhat. Or maybe I was even using it, but not consciously. As I've said, I didn't ever think it was game breaking or super 'unfair'. I just remember dying because if it several times, which was quite frustrating. So when I saw complaints about devs removing it, I was confused. Because I just don't see the point of making your scout looking like zerk.

 

For the record, I'm 2015 now, so not under 2K :D

 

So okay, I retract my complaints. 

 

But I do wonder, why people get so emotional over this? I mean, all I've suggested is that replacement chassis parts don't look like default chassis of other mechs. What's so great about looking like other mech?


Edited by Ezodev, 19 June 2016 - 02:31 PM.

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What's so great about looking like other mech?

Deception.


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What's so great about looking like other mech?

It's fuzzy bunnyng cool.


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Some people need appearance to confirm a mech? Or do they need over 10 second in TAB to find that icon? GOSH.

 

If they can't get better, maybe we really need few NEWBIE server for them to have their restrictions. 

 

Disability needs attention, but you cant ask people to not use green colour because you cant see it!

 

You want handicap? Stay in your assault.

 

If devs really do that, that is going to be a BIG issue--first, I want my money back--NOT hc, neither MC, not RC if they're going to change that. Then I quit.

 

The thing to learn is not to react to visuals of a mech and how it looks, but what it shoots at you.  That's the thing to learn.  If you learn to react to TOWs and GLs and Seekers and Hellfires and Sabots and Slugs and HEAT and every weapon, then it won't matter what mech the other guy is in.  You react to what's being directed towards you.


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What's so great about looking like other mech?

This. 

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But I do wonder, why people get so emotional over this? I mean, all I've suggested is that replacement chassis parts don't look like default chassis of other mechs. What's so great about looking like other mech?

 

It's not about looking "like another mech".  It's about selecting a chassis that's aesthetically pleasing.  For example, I think the default Sharpshooter chassis looks like fuzzy bunny - like a fat head on legs.  I much prefer playing with a Sharpshooter customized to my tastes.


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It's not about looking "like another mech". It's about selecting a chassis that's aesthetically pleasing. For example, I think the default Sharpshooter chassis looks like fuzzy bunny - like a fat head on legs. I much prefer playing with a Sharpshooter customized to my tastes.


Conversely, I also would like to retain the ability to make a mech look absolute shite
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Most of the time I like my mechs to look like the mechs they're supposed to be. But sometimes... it's just fun to make your mech look more the way you like it to. It's fun. Isn't that what games are supposed to be? ;)


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I've adapted to major speed/TTK changes, Air Compressors, item spam, Incin, G2R, whatever.  What keeps me is the gameplay: I am here to outsmart someone, faster than they can think through what's happening around them.  I get to do that a lot.

 

I'm 50, almost 51, years old.  I get the sense some people 15 years (or more!) my junior aren't anywhere near as adaptable. 

 

It's almost as if they can't think through what's happening around them.

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And you will probably be hated bringing those customized mechs with weird weapon combinations in future pubs.. 

 

 

And regarding gui changes that never mattered.. Well when dials were inside cockpit(more immersion) showing hp as a number it was more intense. You couldn't read that with periferal vision as you do now you had to actively look at it ( i think there was some kind of sound warning if low). They also changed the whole color palette of the game.. making it more cod more saturated and POPular looking. I liked muted high pollution less colors look.. it looked post appocalyptic. It looked cool. Vision of the game was compromised in vain. It never brought more players just more people left. Im talking Ascension mainly. Those small things might seem unimportant but they are what makes the whole experience and they do matter. I guess as an artist i'm more sensitive to such things. My bad.


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Replacing the best looking chassis by one of the worst looking ones.
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Replacing the best looking chassis by one of the worst looking ones.
You're not worth the Raider.
 

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rainbow thrusters and clown paintjobs incoming and 

this is lost forever

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Thats the old HUD all the comunnity was asking for a come back of the old HUD since years, but now each cockpit its diferent depends of the class, will be diferentin in each class ?






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