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from console folks

 

 

That fuel regen is so slow 


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Not really a fan of having another spacebarhero mech with TOW, but it does have 275 hp.

 

It's ability looks like a fired nuke that applies a brief dot, with a 25 second cd.  The ability is probably a potentially bigger balance issue, but we'll see.

 

Also still haven't found any 36m footage.


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Oh someone will mapclimb real good with this baby. Could that be... me? xD


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First 55 seconds in video with kid-talking and mute is brilliant...

Edited by nepacaka, 25 March 2017 - 01:19 AM.

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that airspeed tho

its like bunny hopping on the moon


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pc players get shafted thanks devs. 


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pc players get shafted thanks devs. 

aaaaaaaaaaaand there's always someone that doesn't completely get what's going on, then reacts negatively based on incomplete information.

 

I've done it before, but I won't stick my foot in my mouth on a public forum tho


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Honestly, I don't really care whether or not this is competitively viable or not.

It looks fun as fuzzy bunny.


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whats the ability? 



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whats the ability? 

 

gets a magic carpet?,

 

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whats the ability? 

 

Shoots a sticky rocket that slows other mechs down upon impact.


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Some of you guys might not have noticed, but the radar radius on this thing is ridiculously small. It's basically a blind mech in terms of radar.


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Some of you guys might not have noticed, but the radar radius on this thing is ridiculously small. It's basically a blind mech in terms of radar.

 

Perfect for console. Most players have tunnel vision, but you're always forced to look for a turret shooting at you, which means you would look around anyways.


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Who designs these ability icons?? This one looks like someone was yanking their missile and got missile fluids everywhere.


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does it have more weapon choice that one?


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At this point I really don't care much for what "interesting" mechs are coming out because I'm never going to see these mechs(pc). But can you consider putting in a mech that shoots non lock, low spread, high rate of fire in burst; missiles, in other words helicopter hellfires. You know the ones in a drum on the side of the Apache. To make a REAL Rocketeer. I really don't care for another tow mech combo, that's my opinion.

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does it have more weapon choice that one?

 

It has the SMC as an alternate weapon


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radar barely equivalent to the the AA, cant see round corners for fuzzy bunny

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I don't know how to feel about this mech. on one hand, I really want a new mech but that radar and fuel regen. I'll have to test it to see it's strengths so Pray that PC relaunch does not get delayed


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At this point I really don't care much for what "interesting" mechs are coming out because I'm never going to see these mechs(pc). But can you consider putting in a mech that shoots non lock, low spread, high rate of fire in burst; missiles, in other words helicopter hellfires. You know the ones in a drum on the side of the Apache. To make a REAL Rocketeer. I really don't care for another tow mech combo, that's my opinion.

 

 

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dis is another proct vid.
ability - "clue rocket" - throw rocket which making enemy slower and restrict use boost/doge.

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armor - 275
boost - 38ms
fuel tank - 146
regen - 11.1
walk - 20ms
airspeed - 55
radar - 38.5m
oh - 7sec
doge - 1.4sec
have a SMC as a alt primary.
 



 


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pls stop with these abilities that restrict movement, walk speed, dodging, etc. Granted I haven't played or fought them but it seems so incomprehensibly silly and obnoxious.
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imo, this mech should be


armor - 275
boost - 38ms 34ms
fuel tank - 146
regen - 11.1
walk - 20ms
airspeed - 55
radar - 38.5m +/- 55-60m
oh - 7sec
doge - 1.4sec

this sh!t shouldn't be good with boost if it have 55 air speed.

and i still can't see in vid how ability working and how much time effect slower u mech :C
t is a "real" rocket which fly into enemy face, or it is a "metaphoric" rocket, which is mean you next bullet in enemy just slower him. it seems like enemy have a yellow shine areol but i'm not sure. and i can't find how much time it working.

to be honest, i think that it will be better if it was not "clue rocket" but will be a "clue grenade" (the same like HE but with yellow marker, and the same throwing mechanism throwing (hold F to powerful throw), to have a chance for enemy evade splash and don't get sticky. Lets say, you need some skill to put grenade in enemy face, not just "press F to disable dodge and win by DPS and autoaim"


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The more new machs comeing out, the more I realize that I only want more customization from RLD.


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The more new machs comeing out, the more I realize that I only want more customization from RLD.

Look like we get 2 another C-class (falum and one square c-class) and that will be last mechs from RLD, if they don't hire 3D designer, bacoz alpha-chassis is end.
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What they should do with this "clue rocket", is have a counter indicator pop up on your hud when you hit somebody with the rocket so you know the duration for the effect on your opponant. Think of it like how WoW shows debuffs.

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Looks neat - but I wonder how effective it will be in real games. The enemies being fought in the video make entry-level bots look skilled. They literally just stood around confused and let the player blow them up. 

 

How well would that mech work against veteran players with a KB & M? 

 

Speaking of which, I should get a Xim 4 for my console and play hawken with it. XD



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but I wonder how effective it will be in real games. 

test N1
pick a Heavy mech. just find SMC+TOW berserker + 2-3 enemies, and start fight with them. 
3-5 second use only walking while fight. see how effectiveness you mech being without boost and dodge against enemy group.
i think you can die after 3 seconds while got severals rocket in face and be a bullet magnet.

test N2
pick a Scout. just find SMC+TOW berserker, and start fight with it.
3-5 second use only walking while he start shoot in you (just simulate situation like a Proct start shoot in you and "press F")
look how long scout can survive without boost/dodge/AC.

test N3
loading Bunker map. try use only walking agains bunch of seeketers. see how they use aimbot and lockOn on you and you can't do nothing. feel yourself like a masochist a little.


Generally, i think you should always bring "personal rock" with you, if you playing against this mech. being catched at open space probably always lead you to very fast death. Even if Proct not be dangerous 1vs1, his team can shred you in seconds, if you stop moving while fight.


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ok I hate those new mechs somehow my scout has been working well all the time even against cheaters I had the best chance but when nief and proct come to pc and 2or3 of them work together il have not  5seconds to live once been hit by clue rocket. 



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test N1
pick a Heavy mech. just find SMC+TOW berserker + 2-3 enemies, and start fight with them. 
3-5 second use only walking while fight. see how effectiveness you mech being without boost and dodge against enemy group.
i think you can die after 3 seconds while got severals rocket in face and be a bullet magnet.

test N2
pick a Scout. just find SMC+TOW berserker, and start fight with it.
3-5 second use only walking while he start shoot in you (just simulate situation like a Proct start shoot in you and "press F")
look how long scout can survive without boost/dodge/AC.

test N3
loading Bunker map. try use only walking agains bunch of seeketers. see how they use aimbot and lockOn on you and you can't do nothing. feel yourself like a masochist a little.


Generally, i think you should always bring "personal rock" with you, if you playing against this mech. being catched at open space probably always lead you to very fast death. Even if Proct not be dangerous 1vs1, his team can shred you in seconds, if you stop moving while fight.

 

So.. based on your tests.. as long as I boost and dodge and move around, im good. Just no walking. Got it. I do just fine without AC. Its a crutch anyway.



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Nief is not imba. I see how it working on PS4... Not super cool if it came to PC.
Many people on PS4 play as a dumb (I even see person who just stand)

To be honest, I see many people who literally never use boost or dodge, so, console Proct ability literally doesn't affect on them xD

P.s. I don't play on PS4 mmyself (bacoz gamepad was created by satana), but my brother play, I only watching how it working. Nief ability is cool, but in general, he have verheat, and low dps without it. Nief also can kill himself by splash in cqc, bacoz 2 weapons is a blast.
It is still a "nub-shredder" mech, but it is not because balance. It is all about PS4 average player skill. Who aim better with controller - 99% win. Absolutely doesn't matter which mech u use.

I mean, I'm 90% sure that Proct was not imba on PC, his ability also will not affect on low-tier players (bacoz they just don't use dodge :3). At the same time if you have good aim, and use any DPS mech, you just kill it because Proct have lower DPS than you.
But it still can be annoying. Probably, sometimes very annoying.
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But the real question, can the Turkey instagib?


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But the real question, can the Turkey instagib?


No, only Civ can instagib and it's utter fuzz.

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I think we might find that the only reason people didn't complain about the seeker on PC was that it was attached to a rocky.

 

Oh wait. We already discovered that. Why do we have it on a TOW mech now?


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The slow fuel regen could be a perception, due to having a large fuel tank. Something similar happens when you're on a C healing, you perceive the healing is slower than in an A but it's actually because you are healing more armor on a C, and your health bar seen from within the mech is the same lenght in an A and in a C (and in a B).


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Oh wait. We already discovered that. Why do we have it on a TOW mech now?

Why do we have it on a maradeur now? :P


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I think we might find that the only reason people didn't complain about the seeker on PC was that it was attached to a rocky.

Oh wait. We already discovered that. Why do we have it on a TOW mech now?

No we didn't. The seeker is still made of meh. The Nief is fuzzy bunny every moment its not running its ability. The Marauder's seeker is a hilarious nerf that introduces a mini-game while you wait for the KLA to come off cooldown.

There haven't been seeker-specific complaints since Reloaded picked up the IP.

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Who designs these ability icons?? This one looks like someone was yanking their missile and got missile fluids everywhere.

They are seriously bad. This one is especially bad.
And a couple of them (Including this one) are hilariously phallic.


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No we didn't. The seeker is still made of meh. The Nief is fuzzy bunny every moment its not running its ability. The Marauder's seeker is a hilarious nerf that introduces a mini-game while you wait for the KLA to come off cooldown.

There haven't been seeker-specific complaints since Reloaded picked up the IP.

 

Yeah, nief is fuzzy bunny now that they've nerfed the seekers on it after folks complained. I'd say "the seekers on nief put out way too mach damage for way too little effort" is a fairly specific seeker complaint.

 

I really think the weapon needs a revisit in terms of mechanics.


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Yeah, nief is fuzzy bunny now that they've nerfed the seekers on it after folks complained. I'd say "the seekers on nief put out way too mach damage for way too little effort" is a fairly specific seeker complaint.

I really think the weapon needs a revisit in terms of mechanics.


Pretty sure the majority of the nerfs hit the Nief, i.e. air speed, HP, and the ability. We'd have to dig up the exact seeker nerfs, but if the thing was broken, there'd be complaints about the other mechs that run it as well.
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