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IndygoEEI

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So I was really lucky to be early adopter of Hawken and managed to gain quite a bit mechs and customization

through MC.  If you want to know more about that, PM me.  So naturally I didn't use all of them and with my

game time on here being low, I only partially progressed through a couple mechs.  I quit playing because of

computer issues and by the time that was fixed the game had collapsed due to the mismanagement of it   I

didn't feel like playing at that point.

 

So now I have all these mechs that are "stock" and need upgrades.  Will I still be able to get the mods for

them after 3.0 or will I have to work now to keep them?  To be honest with you because of the game's

history,  I'm sort of lurking because this game has gone through too many sudden drastic changes in it's time

frame of existence.  From steam integration (BLEGH!) to changing the upgrade system, it's been a bit too

much for a someone who wanted to play this game for 5 hours a week as I had one game I was way more

interested in.  In fact, someone mentioned "Tree" and the only thing that I thought of is that Tree thing will be

like World of Tanks progression system.

 

Yeah that was sort of ramble.  However even though I may have around a year to worry about this, I really

don't want to end up playing the game just for the grind.  I'm also very apprehensive of investing in it

because of it's development history...



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I agree if devs deleted all my mechas and give me a brawler with 3000 hp and super-flak-conan-barbarian which shoot mini-schwarzenegger as a shrapnel.
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I agree if devs deleted all my mechas and give me a brawler with 3000 hp and super-flak-conan-barbarian which shoot mini-schwarzenegger as a shrapnel.

or a super scout that has 1000 HP and can make it from one side of the largest map to the other in 1.69 seconds and can spam dodge.


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Flak Conan is my favorite weapon (With air det barbarian launcher)


Edited by DeeRax, 07 September 2016 - 01:19 PM.

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or Cowbell that fires mini-Nukes from the Hawkins as alt-primary


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tuning points being removed destroyed the fun of unlocking and building my mechs but that also means that there wont be the have/have nots that started the early rumor hawkens pay 2 win since items/internals/tuning points was apparently too much  to have against rookies

 

:i frequented my brawler back then like i do vanguard now, orb lording + hawkens + turret mode + fully tuned for hitpoints allowed me to let the whole enemy team aproach me head on and i kill them all with it in the blurr of carnage and orbs im scooting between and when they figgure out they messed up and try to run away, hawkins finishes them off quickly when they run. poor rooks shoulda tried using emp on turrets but back then no one else i ever saw use turrets to assault  with


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if the devs tke away my 30 something CUSTOMIZED mechs....

 

there will be riots

 

I will not stand alone there, im fairly sure


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Devs have been very clear you get to keep the mechs/weapons you've unlocked. So, to answer op's question you'll need to unlock the remaining weapons on the mechs you have to keep them post update.
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Flak Conan is my favorite weapon (With air det barbarian launcher)


I immediately pictured a scout with Conan O'Brien's head for a primary weapon.
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I immediately pictured a scout with Conan O'Brien's head for a primary weapon.

 

i think you are in the wrong clan....

 

 

BBAHAHHAHAA

 

come to TDM...

 

we have cookies and the sex is better....

 

EDIT::

 

pssst  " sorry odin but i still love you "


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Devs have been very clear you get to keep the mechs/weapons you've unlocked. So, to answer op's question you'll need to unlock the remaining weapons on the mechs you have to keep them post update.

 

I've never read anything that I would classify as "very clear"... or even "remotely clear".

 

All I've seen is vague comments like "we're considering allowing PC vets to keep all the mechs they already have if possible."  Is there something much more specific and certain posted somewhere?

 

I just keep seeing all the talk of platform parity... and believing that it will ultimately be more work to allow the existing mechs, as they are, to stay in the game (once those "massive database overhauls" Josh mentions take place) than ReLoaded will deem profitable.  As much as I want to keep everything I've worked hard for the same as it is... I really just don't believe it's going to happen.


To be serious for a moment this is just a joke

 


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i think you are in the wrong clan....

 

 

BBAHAHHAHAA

 

come to TDM...

 

we have cookies and the sex is better....

 

EDIT::

 

pssst  " sorry odin but i still love you "

 

Lol Demi, I should be in the clan I co-founded.  TDM is full of TDM kids. 

 

The only sex TDM has is the nonconsensual kind when they get wrecked playing against THC.  See S3 of TPG...

 

<3


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Lol Demi, I should be in the clan I co-founded.  TDM is full of TDM kids. 

 

The only sex TDM has is the nonconsensual kind when they get wrecked playing against THC.  See S3 of TPG...

 

<3

 

That was consensual, we like it rough


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That was consensual, we like it rough

 

I feel better now.

 

We like it rough too.  See all of our Alpha division games from TPG S3...


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id also like to know if i should spend my HC  on every detonator every emp every orb for every mech or will the credits be ok/items be ok



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Hopefully, there will be no grandfathering issue at all.  My thinking is they are going to fix customization before the PC port, which is why we have yet to see the PC patch.



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Hopefully, there will be no grandfathering issue at all.  My thinking is they are going to fix customization before the PC port, which is why we have yet to see the PC patch.

 

i love how optimistic you can be.  that is what we all hope, that and that they ditch the entire concept of g2 mechs.


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i love how optimistic you can be.  that is what we all hope, that and that they ditch the entire concept of g2 mechs.

 

They've mentioned that customization was broken and they intend to bring it back.  Kinda makes sense to get it fixed before patching the PC version because it eliminates the need to grandfather mechs and all the issues that come with it.  It would also keep PC peeps from getting even more irate.

 

My only concern is that they won't make enough money off of the consoles to justify updating the PC version.


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Lol Demi, I should be in the clan I co-founded.  TDM is full of TDM kids. 

 

The only sex TDM has is the nonconsensual kind when they get wrecked playing against THC.  See S3 of TPG...

 

<3

I dunno about the OTHER members of TDM...

 

But i know i get plenty of sex and cookies....

 

your mum is great like that... though it seems she may have been lying about the consent


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I dunno about the OTHER members of TDM...

 

But i know i get plenty of sex and cookies....

 

your mum is great like that... though it seems she may have been lying about the consent

Well... I break into people's houses while they have sex and steal their cookies...

/sarcasm

 

Now I really want some cookies...


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I dunno about the OTHER members of TDM...

But i know i get plenty of sex and cookies....

your mum is great like that... though it seems she may have been lying about the consent


My mom does make great cookies. She doesn't mind making them either, not sure why she would lie about it.

Unless you were inferring that you were having nonconsensual sex with my mom. I didn't realize you were into 64 year olds and rape.

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My mom does make great cookies. She doesn't mind making them either, not sure why she would lie about it.

Unless you were inferring that you were having nonconsensual sex with my mom. I didn't realize you were into 64 year olds and rape.

I don't think this thread is going back on topic sometime soon.

 

Also, inci, could you ask your mom to ship me some cookies? I live on 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney, Australia. I occasionally go by the name of P. Sherman...


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I don't think this thread is going back on topic sometime soon.

Also, inci, could you ask your mom to ship me some cookies? I live on 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney, Australia. I occasionally go by the name of P. Sherman...


There's a joke about nut allergies and your mom in there somewhere...

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No one really knows what the final implementation would be.  It seems probable the devs would freeze your mech's configurations and remove the ability to swap parts/purchase from store.  Saves having two completely different upgrade systems side by side.

 

That said, grandfathering weapons and internals that will be unavailable to new players for an indeterminate amount of time is a bad idea.



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We also don't know what their idea of customization will be when they reimplement it. They've stated a few times that they wanted mech-weapon combinations to be 1 to 1 moving forward. They may only implement item customization, or internal customization, or some combination of the two, or neither.

 

It's also worth noting that this is the same company that told us there'd be 30+ mechs upon console release, and then we discovered that they were including the G2 variants of every mech in that count. Given that they've demonstrated a willingness to stretch the truth, I wouldn't expect them to bring back the breadth of customization that we currently enjoy.


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