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I think...

 

maybe what was implied here is that his biggest hack was purposely getting into a game on an unknown smurf and playing dodgy like trying to get hackusations and laughing about it behind players backs...

 

no one likes to be made a fool of really...

 

pretty douche move imo

 

"Douchey" immature behavior such as this unfortunately isn't a legitimate bannable offense regardless of how prevalent it is in such players.

 

 

air 180 is bad and your bad if you use it

 

I know I'm bad already which is why I use air 180 shamelessly

 

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I believe it is much more likely he just wanted to smurf and play anonymously.
Leaving and returning as though nothing happened could be interpreted as his realization that he was causing agitation and therefore simply rejoined on a known account to put an end to it and to try to move on.

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I believe it is much more likely he just wanted to smurf and play anonymously.
Leaving and returning as though nothing happened could be interpreted as his realization that he was causing agitation and therefore simply rejoined on a known account to put an end to it and to try to move on.

 

Why would you play anonymously with people you know, on a private server with a password, and sit in the same TS channel with them not saying a word or acknowledging who you are? 

 

"To practice shooting people after doing a 180?"


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Not sure if I'd trust reloaded on a player ban unless their blatant hacking were verifiable through evidence.  Again, would need to see the actual evidence.  

 

Seeing the evidence would clear up a lot of questions.  Nobody knows exactly what it was that prompted the ban other than the phrase "using an exploit".  However, that evidence is really none of our business.



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^Well, that's what we've been told... but there's been plenty of evidence to the contrary.  There was even a video a couple of years ago showing a party of players in Freds, all below level 10, who could not be taken below 1 health point - despite a whole teams efforts.   And other videos showing obvious speed hacks, unlimited fuel, etc., have also been captured.


speedhacks abuse the inherent unrestricted udp protocol not changing stats, all games suffer this with requiring the extra speed needed from udp only for things such as movement, so speedha king is about all your gonna get

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I believe it is much more likely he just wanted to smurf and play anonymously.
Leaving and returning as though nothing happened could be interpreted as his realization that he was causing agitation and therefore simply rejoined on a known account to put an end to it and to try to move on.

The player in question has shown up to countless clan practices and community events in completely different accounts almost every time unless specifically asked otherwise, and upon asking, usually complained a great deal about having to "switch to his main." I have also checked play time between these multiple accounts, and very often this player will spend 20-30 hours on an account and then go and start another one. These are facts. Im not trying to particularly vilify this person, but this is what happened in my time around the player, both in game and on TS.

I genuinely don't think it's a case of playing anonymously and rather a case of "I'm in love with the underdog bonus and unbalancing matches."

Edited by Silverfire, 30 September 2016 - 08:34 AM.

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Why would you play anonymously with people you know, on a private server with a password, and sit in the same TS channel with them not saying a word or acknowledging who you are?

From what I believe about him, I can think of a number of simple, banal and harmless reasons, but I cannot speak for him.
I suppose those who banned him believe otherwise and ascribe more malicious intent to his behavior.

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>Sharpshooter as a main
That's the problem. Point and click adventure mech. Scum.

Sharpshooters have no honor and no place in Hawken 

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Why would you play anonymously with people you know, on a private server with a password, and sit in the same TS channel with them not saying a word or acknowledging who you are?

"To practice shooting people after doing a 180?"

To be fair I've done this too. Such behavior is questionable but not necessarily malicious.

Edited by Silverfire, 30 September 2016 - 08:45 AM.

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To be fair I've done this too. Such behavior is questionable but not necessarily malicious.

 

You've lurked in the same TS channel and hopped into a TPG server during TDM's practice using an account nobody knows and just sat silently while almost everyone accused you of hacking and then returned under a known account 5 minutes later and acted like nothing just happened?  (After you were removed from TDM's roster for having an account banned?) 

 

If so, I am genuinely curious as to your motivation for doing so.

 

I mean, I've sat in TS and played on an alt account too.  But I've never hopped into a teams practice or a TPG server without identifying myself to the TS and the people in the match.



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You've lurked in the same TS channel and hopped into a TPG server during TDM's practice using an account nobody knows and just sat silently while almost everyone accused you of hacking and then returned under a known account 5 minutes later and acted like nothing just happened?  (After you were removed from TDM's roster for having an account banned?) 

 

If so, I am genuinely curious as to your motivation for doing so.

 

I mean, I've sat in TS and played on an alt account too.  But I've never hopped into a teams practice or a TPG server without identifying myself to the TS and the people in the match.

 

This is what I've done.

 

Dropped into an open pub server with multiple people in TS without anyone knowing, played a few rounds, a couple people thought my account was suspicious, all the meanwhile I'm talking to them, and they're talking to me, then the account left the server.  I hopped in on a known alt of mine and then later revealed it was me the whole time.  

 

It wasn't a team practice, just an open pub server.


Edited by Silverfire, 30 September 2016 - 09:43 AM.

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Not sure if I'd trust reloaded on a player ban unless their blatant hacking were verifiable through evidence.  Again, would need to see the actual evidence.  

I wouldn't, and Im saying this because I made a smurf named ICantAimBot. yes that's me. I have 3 hours on that account, and in 3 hours I got to 2050 mmr. Maintained above average accuracy percentages, and during in game got complaints, also equipped with air 180. THAT account is now banned, for what reason? There is none. There is no evidence, no hacks. 

 

Under the circumstance that it takes RLD months to finally ban accounts of actual hackers, with plenty of evidence and video and even stream say persons. It took less than a week of word to mouth for my little smurf account to get banned.

 

Now with that being said I personally think the Said persons ban should be uplifted, we all play this everyday and there is no way anyone is gonna tell me specifically with how many hours we got in this damn game individually, that you don't know what a ''aimbot, wallhacker, snap, trigger bot and air 180'' looks like by now. Absolutely not.

 

I'm pretty sure i've done some questionable shots myself? but im still here lol and im legit. Said person is also legit, due to the numberless times we've played with that person.

 

Thats my personal opinion on the matter lol. carry on


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https://hawken.herok...f2-e0b8db8cb482 This account has been banned for reasons unkown, no evidence. Air 180.


Edited by HOHOHOSANTA, 30 September 2016 - 09:47 AM.


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The player in question has shown up to countless clan practices and community events in completely different accounts almost every time unless specifically asked otherwise, and upon asking, usually complained a great deal about having to "switch to his main." I have also checked play time between these multiple accounts, and very often this player will spend 20-30 hours on an account and then go and start another one. These are facts.

I genuinely don't think it's a case of playing anonymously and rather a case of "I'm in love with the underdog bonus and unbalancing matches."

 

Why would someone need to re-roll an account every 20-30 hours? 

 

"I like having different names" is a stated reason.

 

Underdog bonus?  Maybe.  But this person always scores at the top of the board.

 

Unbalancing matches?  Troll behavior. 

 

Or, maybe they don't want any one account to garner too much attention as to avoid being singled out for hacking.

 

Why continuously show up to practice/events in an account that will wreck everyone's mmr and prevent matchmaking from giving us balanced matches thereby ruining said practice/events? 

 

Only one person really knows the answers to these questions.  But, all of these behaviors are unsavory and it should come as no surprise that this person's presence is not desired in the HKTS. 

 

Got banned by Reloaded, acts like a fuzzy bunny, and then wonders why they aren't as welcome as they once were.



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Why would someone need to re-roll an account every 20-30 hours? 

 

"I like having different names" is a stated reason.

 

Underdog bonus?  Maybe.  But this person always scores at the top of the board.

 

Unbalancing matches?  Troll behavior. 

 

Or, maybe they don't want any one account to garner too much attention as to avoid being singled out for hacking.

 

Why continuously show up to practice/events in an account that will wreck everyone's mmr and prevent matchmaking from giving us balanced matches thereby ruining said practice/events? 

 

Only one person really knows the answers to these questions.  But, all of these behaviors are unsavory and it should come as no surprise that this person's presence is not desired in the HKTS. 

 

Got banned by Reloaded, acts like a fuzzy bunny, and then wonders why they aren't as welcome as they once were.

its cause they dont listen to rap Inci =[ they not gangsta enough 


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This is what I've done.

 

Dropped into an open pub server with multiple people in TS without anyone knowing, played a few rounds, a couple people thought my account was suspicious, all the meanwhile I'm talking to them, and they're talking to me, then the account left the server.  I hopped in on a known alt of mine and then later revealed it was me the whole time.  

 

It wasn't a team practice, just an open pub server.

 

I'm sure things would be totally different if that's what this other person did. 

 

Honestly, I think if they would've just copped to who they were when it happened there would have been some laughs and then nothing else.

 

The fact that they weren't upfront about what happened and have behaved in ways that irritate a lot of people certainly did not help the matter.

 

As for whether or not they should be banned from the HKTS, I personally don't care either way.  The problem is that a lot of people have had suspicions about this player and the ban from reloaded sort of confirmed that suspicion.  Couple that with the shady behavior in the TS and that's how we got to this point.

 

Not that anyone should have to prove themselves innocent, but it would be interesting to watch a stream of the person in question.  Does a stream/video of their gameplay exist?  Can one be produced? 



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I wouldn't, and Im saying this because I made a smurf named ICantAimBot. yes that's me. I have 3 hours on that account, and in 3 hours I got to 2050 mmr. Maintained above average accuracy percentages, and during in game got complaints, also equipped with air 180. THAT account is now banned, for what reason? There is none. There is no evidence, no hacks. 

 

Under the circumstance that it takes RLD months to finally ban accounts of actual hackers, with plenty of evidence and video and even stream say persons. It took less than a week of word to mouth for my little smurf account to get banned.

 

Now with that being said I personally think the Said persons ban should be uplifted, we all play this everyday and there is no way anyone is gonna tell me specifically with how many hours we got in this damn game individually, that you don't know what a ''aimbot, wallhacker, snap, trigger bot and air 180'' looks like by now. Absolutely not.

 

I'm pretty sure i've done some questionable shots myself? but im still here lol and im legit. Said person is also legit, due to the numberless times we've played with that person.

 

Thats my personal opinion on the matter lol. carry on

 

HOHO, we have access to countless streams of your gameplay.  If you never streamed, constantly re-rolled accounts, and acted shady I would have suspicions about you as well.  (We don't have to be suspicious because we all know you hack and the only way you can kill Scouts is with an aim/trigger bot.)


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HOHO, we have access to countless streams of your gameplay.  If you never streamed, constantly re-rolled accounts, and acted shady I would have suspicions about you as well.  (We don't have to be suspicious because we all know you hack and the only way you can kill Scouts is with an aim/trigger bot.)

this is legit


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I would like to petition any Mech Mods or Tiggs to lock this thread please. 


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I would like to petition any Mech Mods or Tiggs to lock this thread please. 

yeah can we get a lock things have become sour and it's basically a callout thread at this point.


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Yeah, this is just gonna go downhill.


 

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wait... your saying it WASNT a callout thread from the start?

 

the OP seemed pretty callout to me


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I would like to petition any Mech Mods or Tiggs to lock this thread please. 

 

yeah can we get a lock things have become sour and it's basically a callout thread at this point.

 

Yeah, this is just gonna go downhill.

 

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Edit: I feel like we've been somewhat restrained so far, but I agree that this thread has probably run out of utility


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Edit: I feel like we've been somewhat restrained so far, but I agree that this thread has probably run out of utility

 

in other words... jokes over now... laughs extinct


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