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So, a few of you have likely encountered the weapon swap glitch; it's where you do some hocus-pocus to make it so the primary of the mech you ended the last match playing gets put on a semi-random mech as the first spawn of the next match.  This gets you some goofy loadouts that can be overpowered or useless, but always fun.  What I'm proposing is making this a feature.  Since I discovered this, it's been a real hook keeping me in matches just to see what I get next game, and hawken is really short on these little dopamine hits and the eager expectation they invite.

 

Why not make some sort of option at the beginning of a round to draw a random primary or random primaries with a choice and put it on a random mech in your garage and launch you with that, just for your first life as it is now?  You run the risk of getting total trash, but you also might pull a heat assault or a flak infil out of the RNG and do some work.  I think this could add some real variety, and I find the challenge of adapting to something I haven't seen before enjoyable on either side of the equation.

 

This has the potential to be really wonky, so I'd probably consider it as a thing not available in comp matches and have it be stressed that this is not your best option when selecting it, maybe even level gate it so the normal loadouts are understood first.  Maybe make it not necessarily the first life, but have it be a once-per-round consumable?  Some kind of strong restriction on its use would be necessary to not sort of invalidate the rules of weapon selection, but I am not sure what would be necessary, really.  Maybe add the requirement of having played a round beforehand as it is now to encourage sticking around as well?  Call it something like "Weapons Cache" and have it be accessible from the postgame lobby?  There's something really good here, I'm sure, we just need to figure out how to frame it.

 

I welcome any improvements to this idea or critique of it, and I understand if it sounds just too nuts to do, but god knows there have been some glitches made into features to spectacular effect in the past.


Edited by comic_sans, 22 March 2015 - 06:00 AM.

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What about....

 

A whole gamemode dedicated to it?

 

Like random mech, both weapons, internals and items?

 

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What about a gun game in HAWKEN, so you start off with a bad primary and secondary, and each kill you get changes either the primary or secondary to a better weapon. Or a more balanced version of this would be the reverse gun game which is self explanatory.


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+1 for Hawken gun game

 

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I'd prefer a gamemode where you'd get a random gun.


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I'd prefer a gamemode where you'd get a random gun.

I guess that would be fun too, as long as you change weapon when you die. However if someone gets a great weapon and don't die then.... meh


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Actually that's a really good idea, but some combinations (like Incinerator with Vulcan) should be banned then.



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Lets keep the nostalgia for pre-beta HAWKEN away. The glitch must be fixed, and that's it.


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Just fix the glitch.

If they want to do something like this though, then it should be for a mode of DM and only DM. It wouldn't be helpful in any team-based game, because half the time it's going to create poor mech/weapon selections or something your'e really unfamiliar with and that brings down the whole team. There'd be a lot of rage quitting. Also the randomized mech choice might not work. You will have players that have only the CRT or if there's a test drive they could get spawned in with a mech they haven't tried and hasn't been ranked up. And speaking of unranked mechs, how does the randomization treat items if a mech has no rank or the player hasn't bought any items other than the default that comes with each mech?


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Lets keep the nostalgia for pre-beta HAWKEN away. The glitch must be fixed, and that's it.

 

I wasn't here for the choose your own loadout days, so having nostalgia for it is impossible for me, though I have both heard and can imagine how gamebreaking it was.  Kind of why I still don't want too much player choice with this option.

 

Nokari raises the right points.  It was kinda frustrating getting flak on a stock infil.  Doing it just for DM seems like the best idea.


Edited by comic_sans, 22 March 2015 - 11:20 AM.

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