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Why, in all of the hellish gods above/where-ever, does Australia have only 3 TDMs and 1 Siege!!!? 

 

Just what the fuzzy...KANGAROO, devs!?

 

I can understand that the AU population do not seem to play much else other than TDM, but did you ever consider that SOME PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO TRY THE STUPID GAME AND ALL IT'S GAMEMODES WITHOUT 250+ PING!? Typing in caps emphasizes my point, and I will make my point about this.

 

Australia is likely the most secluded and stupidly worst place in the world when it comes to online gaming because WE ARE SURROUNDED IN WATER!!!! WE CANNOT JUST GO "hey, let's go to that other town and increase my ping by a bit"  because as far as Hawken is concerned, Australia = Sydney. Closest place would be Singapore and guess what? I GET 400 PING THERE! I GET BETTER PING IN AMERICA!!!

 

Way to kill a growing population, devs. :/ Why don't you just keep adding those Japan/Tokyo and Singapore servers in that small tab there. I'M SURE THEY NEED MORE SERVERS!

 

As immature and stupidly angry this topic is and is presented, I SERIOUSLY freaking mean it guys. I know it seems that I am over-reacting, but I've had to deal with 350+ ping while the rest of the world pretty much told me "fuzzy off" and/or to "deal with it" for 8 months!!! After the return of some players, I cannot say how happy I was to play without lag, constantly. I do not want to have the numbers die again just because of some stupid servers rather than the gameplay of this game. :/

So instead of messing up and removing servers, at least, please devs, give us at least one DM and one Missile Assualt, because without them, this game is going to die in one continent.

 

Look, I hate sprouting negativity on the forums about one of my favourite games ever, but I do not want to move back to playing with 250+ (more likely 350+) ping in a completely different country just because the game messed up the AU population because of stupid servers.

 

Again, sorry about the negativity, everyone, but I've been allowing it to simmer for a few weeks and it just had to be said in the most obvious way to express anger via typing; CAPITAL LETTERS.


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There's an excess of NA servers. I'm sure the money being used to keep them up could be shifted around a bit.
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EU servers have gone offline as well. Just some work is done there I guess because today i nthe morning they were still online.


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Yeah I agree with joy XD there are SOOOOO many non necessary servers in NA so yeah maybe as you said "shift" some servers around a bit? XD lol

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I made a post about the unnecessarily big number of servers which don't really get used most of the time. Even at peak times more than half of em are empty.

 

I think that the EU population is growing and the devs added a lot of servers there. Nice move.

 

Now, make a server for each and every mode in ALL regions. 1 for each mode and 3 TDM servers. Would be perfect.

 

I think it should be: NA=80, EU=40; Japan=15; Rest: 10 each.

 

A total of 18 servers or so would be enough and suitable. Unless the devs are planning to release a legit patch in the next 3-4 months which will likely get over 5 to10k people to play in the short period right after the release.

 

I remember the march patch last year which was really not even good, but 10k people were playing!


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There's an excess of NA servers. I'm sure the money being used to keep them up could be shifted around a bit.

 

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I'll at least be adding 1 server in Oceania/Australia (Because Server Pioneer). Mainly will be MA but (If it's possible) I'll change it to DM or TDM every now-and-again. But I do agree, I was a bit puzzled as to why we have 1 less server (1 Siege and 3 TDM, down a DM server) as I go to DM when all other servers are full/empty


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I agree that Aus needs all game modes! Also, I don't understand why everyone seems to crowd into only the TDM servers when there is a siege (and was a DM but that seems to have disappeared).

 

However I remember hearing something from some other devs about hiring servers in Australia, and apparently it's redonkulously expensive compared to the rest of the world? So maybe if we could change one of the three TDM servers into DM/MA that would be awesome :). We rarely seem to make use of the 3rd TDM server anyway (until the pop increases more).



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If you are trying to get my attention to see your point (which is a good point), I have some tips for future reference.

  • Don't make a huge scream-post where a lot of words are capitalized and where you complain without giving any good suggestions  That just makes people instantly assume its another fuzzy bunny crying about something, and they leave, and never even get past the first sentence of your post.
  • Using words such as "SERIOUSLY" and "FREAKING" and especially if it is capitalized, is a big put-of for people who want to read a legitimate argument for or against something.
  • Exclamation marks = - rep for screaming like a 4 year old
  • Italics are okay, but you used them a teansy-bit too often.
  • Having a temper-tantrum over the devs putting more Asian servers in is a big no-no if you want people to take you seriously.

P.S.  I thought the kangaroo reference at the start was hilarious, keep it up over there Aussies.


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P.S.  I thought the kangaroo reference at the start was hilarious, keep it up over there Aussies.

 

We actually ride kangaroos to school and koalas are suspects in murders since their fingerprints have like a 99% match rate

 

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I agree that Aus needs all game modes! Also, I don't understand why everyone seems to crowd into only the TDM servers when there is a siege (and was a DM but that seems to have disappeared).

 

However I remember hearing something from some other devs about hiring servers in Australia, and apparently it's redonkulously expensive compared to the rest of the world? So maybe if we could change one of the three TDM servers into DM/MA that would be awesome :). We rarely seem to make use of the 3rd TDM server anyway (until the pop increases more).

 

The TDM servers are sometimes full though, not full of Australians but usually players from the Japanese or Singaporean servers who are put there through match making. And yes, Australia is pretty expensive, especially hosting servers 


Edited by Lioot, 03 May 2015 - 06:08 PM.


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I agree that Dawn probably didn't make his point in the most respectful way possible, but the point he addresses is a valid one. Australia only has 4(?) servers dedicated to it for an entire continent, so we're feeling pretty neglected! Its particularly annoying/bad that we're grouped in with Japan for matchmaking as Australians routinely get 280-300 ping on the Tokyo servers, and that is borderline unplayable.



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There's an excess of NA servers. I'm sure the money being used to keep them up could be shifted around a bit.

Specifically east. Don't you touch my West coast servers!

 

Seriously though, the Aussie community is strong, and will only get stronger if you through them a bone here.


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Yeah the server stuff there is ludicrous pricing. I don't know what to tell you how to fix that. They really do need at least 2 more minimum. There are some really good players there. I've played a lot of games with players that were Aussies. In fact I have some great friends from there. I'd definitely vote more servers for em.


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+1 for Aus MA server. I think I like MA better than Siege.

DM is the default lobby while waiting for other modes, so +1 there also.

 

Would help to at least know what the cost of the private servers will be, and how long the term would be.

 

Unfortunately when TS3 is running it screws up my Hawken so I can't voip at all :(

 

I'd consider putting in regular cash for an Aus hosted Mumble/Vent and a private server.

 

At least on private server I can avoid getting blocked by MMR restrictions : /



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If you are trying to get my attention to see your point (which is a good point), I have some tips for future reference.

  • Don't make a huge scream-post where a lot of words are capitalized and where you complain without giving any good suggestions  That just makes people instantly assume its another fuzzy bunny crying about something, and they leave, and never even get past the first sentence of your post.
  • Using words such as "SERIOUSLY" and "FREAKING" and especially if it is capitalized, is a big put-of for people who want to read a legitimate argument for or against something.
  • Exclamation marks = - rep for screaming like a 4 year old
  • Italics are okay, but you used them a teansy-bit too often.
  • Having a temper-tantrum over the devs putting more Asian servers in is a big no-no if you want people to take you seriously.

P.S.  I thought the kangaroo reference at the start was hilarious, keep it up over there Aussies.

 

I agree at all the points. It was one of those heat-of-the-moment things that, whilst I do not like how I spoke in it, I do not want to change the OP in any way. It was the most blunt way to put it with the anger that I felt about the whole issue. :/ I also did not know the ludicrious prices of the AU servers - although I kinda thought AU would have been "a bit" more expensive. Seems like I was very wrong - the prices are worse than I had thought.

 

As for the "seriously" quote, that is just me. ^^; I tend to seriously go overboard at using seriously. I seriously got to stop it.

 

I agree that Dawn probably didn't make his point in the most respectful way possible, but the point he addresses is a valid one. Australia only has 4(?) servers dedicated to it for an entire continent, so we're feeling pretty neglected! Its particularly annoying/bad that we're grouped in with Japan for matchmaking as Australians routinely get 280-300 ping on the Tokyo servers, and that is borderline unplayable.

 

I am disrespectful - I definitely agree. But the problem with living on a massive island (with terrible internet in comparison to the rest of the world) is that there is never another place we can go to without having a massive ping increase - which was the initial problem and the reason for my rage.

 

But all of that aside, I really want to apologize at leveling so much at the devs and giving them a lot of criticism. I do definitely agree that it was not the best way to argue a major problem, but I choose to not edit the original post so that everyone could understand my rage (at the time). Maybe it's a bad choice on my behalf, but I'm not changing the post.

 

Just, devs, please do listen to the post and hear the comments between the "CAPITAL LETTERS" and "FREAKING" and "kangaroos". As an Aussie, I can say that the post needed more kangaroos, but that raging post would have to do. 


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I've made the point about Singapore/Tokyo getting worse ping that a NA server before. Seriously, that it just ridiculous. I once joined a Tokyo server and got 980 ping  :wallbash: while Singapore gets around 300 ping. For comparison, I get ~80 ping on the Sydney server since I live on the other side of the country in Perth. Something to note is that Singapore is roughly the same distance away from Perth as Sydney...


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I've made the point about Singapore/Tokyo getting worse ping that a NA server before. Seriously, that it just ridiculous. I once joined a Tokyo server and got 980 ping  :wallbash: while Singapore gets around 300 ping. For comparison, I get ~80 ping on the Sydney server since I live on the other side of the country in Perth. Something to note is that Singapore is roughly the same distance away from Perth as Sydney...

 

Its the transcontinental internet cables being eaten by sharks I tell you! But yes, Australia has the worst internet and the economy is pretty poop now for more servers. Would it be better if the servers in Australia were more central? Literally? Like in Alice Springs, that way, instead of you getting 80 ping and me getting 28, we both get 40 :D



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Its the transcontinental internet cables being eaten by sharks I tell you! But yes, Australia has the worst internet and the economy is pretty poop now for more servers. Would it be better if the servers in Australia were more central? Literally? Like in Alice Springs, that way, instead of you getting 80 ping and me getting 28, we both get 40 :D

I'm fine with 80 ping actually. Anything under 100 I'm happy with. And getting servers in central australia or even Perth will probably be more expensive than a Sydney/Melbourne based server.


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EDIT: double post. 


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I'm fine with 80 ping actually. Anything under 100 I'm happy with. And getting servers in central australia or even Perth will probably be more expensive than a Sydney/Melbourne based server.

 

Agreed. Whichever the cheapest option is as long as I don't get over 100 ping. But if the servers switched to WA...well, I bet someone with 8 ping would not be as good as he is. :P



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Just to put this out there, I had not completely realized the deficiency of servers in Australia - one of those things that just got lost on what feels like a torrential downpour of other stuff.  There had been more servers in the past, but I think we pulled down too many at some point.  We'll get that situation remedied - it makes sense.

 

As means to reassure, if something is genuinely annoying or seemingly "wrong", you can safely assume we would likely agree and would want to fix it.  If there are complicating factors that prevent a good solution, then that's something we would need to share - it's important.  At times, you may have to put a little extra energy into making sure we hear it - and maybe that's exactly what this post can be interpreted as.  I wish we could respond super-quick to everything, but I'm afraid we'll totally miss things on occasion ;)


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All hail CapnJosh.

 

Its good to know that we're on the to do list, rather than 'who gives a fuzzy kangaroo about those blokes down there...'



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Assuming culpability and displaying the best of intentions while explaining the slip-up honestly

 

I am still not used to this.


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I am still not used to this.


Same. The amount of transparency and up-front honesty shown by the new devs so far is super refreshing.

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I'll at least be adding 1 server in Oceania/Australia (Because Server Pioneer). Mainly will be MA but (If it's possible) I'll change it to DM or TDM every now-and-again. But I do agree, I was a bit puzzled as to why we have 1 less server (1 Siege and 3 TDM, down a DM server) as I go to DM when all other servers are full/empty

 

So is it online now? I saw your post up in private server thread. Playing some MA again would be awesome.






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