Who? The "Good Ol Boys Club"?
I don't ever remember Reloaded making any promises to me regarding discretion.
I'm not positive who the "Good Ol Boy's Club" actually is here. This is a game that's been around for quite some time. I've only been around a little more than half of that. There are people active on the forums today that were around a year or two before me.
Moving on, no, they probably didn't make promises to you. They did, or at least paid repeated lip service, to much of the community that was active at the point in time that they needed some assistance moving in.
It would be nice if that's all it took to get this drama to end, but do you think this issue wouldn't come up again? This IS the Hawken community after all.
Also, from my perspective, it's not Reloaded that needs to assimilate in this case, but rather WE do. Hawken for better or worse is theirs. It's going to change according to their vision, by their efforts, and to their schedule. That's not to say that we can't effect some influence on that, but yelling and screaming over the Internet is definitely the least productive means to accomplish that. And all this bad behavior and people acting like drama queens is going to make it that much harder to actually hold any kind of meaningful dialog as the rest of us risk getting lumped in to the "toxic PC crowd" by association.
Well, yes and no, to the first line. Like I said, it's a start. There really ought to be a continuation of it, some real participation in the community. Previous moderators would check into threads when they were getting out of hand and just say "hey, chill out" and it on its own was often effective. When that failed, threads would be locked, people would receive some more personal warnings, and very, very occasionally, people would receive temporary bans. Before Reloaded, outside of people who strictly used the forums for spamming or trolling etc, I'd really only witnessed one or two permanent bans, and those were for things like repeated instances of racism. That's what the community's used to, and given the several year long retention of quite a few players in an otherwise low CCU game, I'd say it's been alright.
To your next paragraph, that's also sort of a yes and no in my mind. I'm not for yelling and screaming about stuff, and I get that they own the IP and the forums and can do as they please, but that's sort of like saying "Freedom of speech" as a defense for being an ass. It's not really a defense, it's just saying you can't be arrested for being an ass.
Edited by ticklemyiguana, 31 July 2016 - 11:25 AM.