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Merl61

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This post deserves its own thread. 

We want a full list of all their in-house playtesters, their MMRs, favourite mechs, favourite weapon combos, favourite item/internal setup, and we want to see gameplay of them fighting each other or community members. 

 

We want an explanation as to what advantages all these G2 mechs will provide over their G1 counterparts.

 

We want the devs to show us some love now that we're out of the "console release mystery" woods.

 

We want to be able to help with the direction the game is going.

 

We want to give advice so this game doesn't go down the drain.

 

We want the devs to appreciate the vast wealth of knowledge they have here, at their fingertips, before they make too many bad decisions and scare us off.

 

We're people, reloaded. Willing ones, at that. 

 

We've been knocking at the door since you picked up development.

 

Let us in.

 

 

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Amid is the new rld spokesman and the answer  is NO


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I feel pretty confident that we will be more help once the release occurs. They were likely pressured by playtesters at both Microsoft and Sony to alter certain things before they would give their console builds the "okay."

 

Once the game is out reloaded will have all the say in how they update their game which I for one am comforted in that fact. I feel that they want our help and advice.

 

Everything that has happened to this game that has happened again is just circumstantial misfortune. 


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I say let's give the devs some time to do their thing. They're a few days out from the biggest moment they've had since taking over the game. Robros, just chill it out and give them a chance to get through the mountain of fuzzy bunny they have on their plate right now.
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Amid is the new rld spokesman and the answer  is NO


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They don't have to take every single bit of advice from here. The final decision will always be theirs.

 


"Let us in"

The short answer is no. The long answer is thank god they don't let people in because there are so many bad suggestions in this forum. After all, we are players and if we don't like the game we have to get over it. If we have feedback yeah sure post it, but don't expect anything back. It's not being rude, is being selective wich is a core concept of game design. Expecting something in exchange is like expecting a thank you from every stranger you encounter after doing something that you think it deserves a thank you. For that person it may not deserve it.

Apply that to this.


Edited by thedark20, 28 June 2016 - 03:49 AM.

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The short answer is no. The long answer is thank god they don't let people in because there are so many bad suggestions in this forum.

Sure, like a dual-seeker a-class, dual-mini-flak a-class, c-class with breacher + TOW, giving vanguard b34r, sticking scanner on everything, and making a strictly-better g2 version of every single mech.

Yeah, these were all terribad community ideas, right? Just a sampling of our many, many bad suggestions, honed through many years of sheer incompetence. :rolleyes:


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Yeah, these were all terribad community ideas, right? Just a sampling of our many, many bad suggestions. 

 

i'm waiting for first stream. look at it. then go and start whining on forum and create many bad suggestion :P


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Interceptor, B-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...itdefence-mech/

Challenger, C-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...ccepted-thread/

G2-Brawler, C-class mech concept: https://community.pl...pacaka-is-here/

Kinetik, B-class mech concept: https://community.pl...ass-shotgunner/

Melter, A-class mech concept: https://community.pl...-class-support/


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If there are no babaji cosmetics you'll be in your own right to whine.

 

We want Babaji cosmetics

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Sure, like a dual-seeker a-class, dual-mini-flak a-class, c-class with breacher + TOW, giving vanguard b34r, sticking scanner on everything, and making a strictly-better g2 version of every single mech.

Yeah, these were all terribad community ideas, right? Just a sampling of our many, many bad suggestions, honed through many years of sheer incompetence. :rolleyes:

 

I don't ever recall reading any of those ideas from the current player-base before.  Are you sure? ;)


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Thanks for posting this Merl (stealing muh comment karma wat 2 heck u fuzzy bunny 1v1 me)

 

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The point of that post wasn't to tell reloaded "anything that comes up on the forums should be instantly accepted". Clearly that's a stupid idea as we used to get noobs fairly often complaining about the scout - see the hawken drinking game - and if all their ideas were accepted then the game would be run into the ground.

 

What I'm saying is that there are many, many things that are known as cheese items (scanner) a bit OP, (tech+incin combo) and seen as just bad ideas in the first place (dual seeker A class). These have been bumping around the forums for years, and all the devs have done so far is do things that seem to come completely out of left field, and just keep juking us with the whole "soon lol" attitude.

 

The community knows how the game plays a hell of a lot better than the devs do - fact. We've just been here longer.

 

At the end of the day they own the game we're playing and they have all the rights to do whatever they want with it.

 

But at this stage, the devs are inexperienced with how the game plays, but have access to the development of said game.

 

We have the knowledge. 

 

What I'm suggesting is that we compensate for each other's weaknesses. The devs take our good, long standing, several years in the making advice and combine it with their development abilities to make the game the best it can be.

 

We get a wonderful game that might just stand the test of time against all the P2W F2P shooters in the market, and maybe even more than that. The devs get a community that is pleased and is willing to help them at every turn, and probably quite a bit of cash too, if they get it right.

 

But hell, what do I know. I'm just some stranger on the internet.

 

I just want what's best for this game. We all do.


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We have waited all this time, there's no harm waiting a little longer. Besides, once the launch is secured on the consoles, they can focus their efforts back onto the PC version. 


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We have waited all this time, there's no harm waiting a little longer. Besides, once the launch is secured on the consoles, they can focus their efforts back onto the PC version. 

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Yeah im just sitting here waiting for the update to drop and the consoles to release, Then i make judgments.


Edited by Shade__, 28 June 2016 - 11:52 AM.

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We have waited all this time, there's no harm waiting a little longer. Besides, once the launch is secured on the consoles, they can focus their efforts back onto the PC version. 

 

The "efforts" they are going to dump back into the PC version is to bring the console version to PC.  They want all three versions to be the same so they can employ parity programming and simultaneous updates.

 

Be pretty assured that whatever you see in the coming weeks from the console versions is what you will be seeing on PC at some unspecified point in the future.


To be serious for a moment this is just a joke

 


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There is an old saying that may apply here:

 

'I want, doesn't get'.

 

Making demands, no matter how reasonable, isn't the way to 'offer' assistance or input, nor guide the devs into making the 'right' decisions. If we all got what we wanted, no one would get what they wanted...


Edited by KamikazeCommando, 28 June 2016 - 05:07 PM.

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I'm going to take a wild guess and say that for legal reasons, Reloaded might not actually be able to use the random suggestions that we give them here on the forums. Theoretically, if they made tons of money off of a suggestion that vastly improved Hawken, the person who suggested that change might want a piece and have grounds to sue them.

 

Anyone remember the time some random guy from Canada tried to sue George Lucas? He sent some designs to Lucasfilm for an alien race that closely resembled the Ewoks, and when Return of the Jedi hit theatres he believed Lucas stole his idea. He was utterly crushed in court, but he still had grounds to try, and it was a royal pain in the ass for Lucasfilm to sort the whole thing out.

 

Perhaps this is why Reloaded is encouraging people to sign NDAs in the Q&A thread. It legally covers them and allows them to talk to us without fear of any of that.

 

Which is reasonable, I suppose, but if that's the case it does make me wonder what the purpose of the suggestions section of the forums is for...


Edited by Nightfirebolt, 28 June 2016 - 09:17 PM.

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There is an old saying that may apply here:
 
'I want, doesn't get'.
 
Making demands, no matter how reasonable, isn't the way to 'offer' assistance or input, nor guide the devs into making the 'right' decisions. If we all got what we wanted, no one would get what they wanted...


Also, what elite comp milge want is often not what the new monetizing player wants.
If there's something bad in the game, milge will avoid it or ban from comps. noobs will leave and take their moneyz.

Remember some decisions are business decisions, made out of necessity.
Demonstrate how any reasonable change benefits comp/casuals/reloaded and it will make it to their to-do list.
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Theoretically, if they made tons of money off of a suggestion that vastly improved Hawken, the person who suggested that change might want a piece and have grounds to sue them.

I won't speak for the other users, but my suggestions are completely free of charge to be implemented by the devs.

Them being implemented AND turning out to improve the game is all the "piece" i want. They can keep the money.


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I have a lot of ideas and would like some feedback on them:

Suggestions for fixing things:

https://community.pl...of-suggestions/

Suggestions for new things:

https://community.pl...for-new-things/


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I won't speak for the other users, but my suggestions are completely free of charge to be implemented by the devs.

Them being implemented AND turning out to improve the game is all the "piece" i want. They can keep the money.

 

I think most of us probably feel that way. However, they might still need it in writing.



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I'm going to take a wild guess and say that for legal reasons, Reloaded might not actually be able to use the random suggestions that we give them here on the forums. Theoretically, if they made tons of money off of a suggestion that vastly improved Hawken, the person who suggested that change might want a piece and have grounds to sue them.

Isn't there a way around this?

Simply add to the forum ToS: "By posting your original ideas and concepts in this forum, you give express written consent to waive all legal rights you may have held over aforementioned ideas and concepts", or something along those lines.

 

I think Digital Extremes did something similar with their forums.


Edited by Duralumi, 29 June 2016 - 03:05 PM.

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if you post it on the internet then it belongs to the internetz

if you don't want ideas taken for free, don't post them.




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