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OK so KNOWING the devs are working on a heap of other coding and all that

 

i need to ask...

 

PLEASE!! pause all that and get the ANTICHEAT in on PC...

 

before hackers ruin your attempts at saving hawken

 

anticheat NEEDS to be a priority


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before hackers ruin your attempts at saving hawken

 

IMHO, they have already done that (at EU side), it certainly contributed to the playerbase drop. But honestly, I think anticheat is not the only task to do right now.


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IMHO, they have already done that (at EU side), it certainly contributed to the playerbase drop. But honestly, I think anticheat is not the only task to do right now.

maybe not the ONLY

 

but definitly one of the more important IMHO


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there would be nothing done if everytime someone demands to stop and do some other thing they would go do that.



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they will not acknowledge either way as they do not want to make it easy for hackers to know what they are up against.

 

previous posts on anti-cheat have satisfied me that they know the gravity of the topic.



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Anti Cheat :D hahahahahahahahahahahaahaha.

 

CHEATERS LIST WIth Joey Greco

 

[ insert names here]

 

1. ?

2. ?

3. ?

4. ?

5. ?


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Fix account problem---added NEW CONTENTs, ppl will come back like no one here has ever hacked.

 

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Anti Cheat :D hahahahahahahahahahahaahaha.

 

CHEATERS LIST WIth Joey Greco

 

[ insert names here]

 

1. MechaGearsofWar

2. HoHoHoSanta

3. Coldform

4. Crafty

5. Your Mom


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Anti Cheat :D hahahahahahahahahahahaahaha.

 

CHEATERS LIST WIth Joey Greco

 

[ insert names here]

 

1. MechaGearsOfWar

2. HOHOHOSANTA

3. Coldform

4. Crafty

5.  COLDFORM'S Mom

6. The sperm count Inci's mom swallowed from me lastnight.

 

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I'm not thoroughly convinced RLD is interested in taking down hackers.  They've been incredibly soft with them, almost dismissive as if they too were an integral part of the game and community, too afraid to ban in case the population decreases. And god forbid if they buy MC! Unbannable at that point, they're paying the bills!  How long did it take for RLD to ban Runa's main which had a shitton of purchased stuff on it?


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too afraid to ban in case the population decreases

 

how population can decreases, if cheater just create new account and continue play after ban? if they ban him, amount of people not changed. it is like 2 -1 +1 = 2.
you say something which don't have any sense. it is not because they don't want ban cheater, they just working slow.

also, many people got broken accounts, and RLD still fixing it. this is why these people not play. it is not about content (but PC don't have content anyway) they simple can't launch match.
 


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anti-cheat not happening.  a complete recoding/rebuild of the game might be necessary, so banning is the only viable solution.  the bad thing about either scenario is it takes less than 30 seconds to pop out a new account. if they reinstated email confirmation, it might take 40 seconds (that's about what it takes to register a new Steam acct). 

it also helps confound the banning system if MAC addresses are used, as many workarounds such as MadMACS.exe are out in the wild.  a spectrum isp-ban is unusable, DHCP addressing could ban an innocent user whenever the isp reassigned addresses (this happened while I was recruiting for TAW, and it flagged a "duplicate" member application from an already used address. bad juju, there.)


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The best anti-cheat is a skilled player, someone who can beat the bot at their own, cheesy game. I doubt there will be a deticated anti-cheat for aimbots, but I am almost fully confident there is one for speedhacks. 


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when you see a hacker. msg me. I are Anti-Cheat. if only aimbot, it will cost a bounty of 10k hc, if speed hacks and aimbot together 20k hc, if it has wallhack, aimbot, and aimbot , 10k MC. 


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when you see a hacker. msg me. I are Anti-Cheat. if only aimbot, it will cost a bounty of 10k hc, if speed hacks and aimbot together 20k hc, if it has wallhack, aimbot, and aimbot , 10k MC. 

 

Didn't you like, quit Hawken?


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IIRC, he just quit his streams.


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Didn't you like, quit Hawken?

yes, I like killing hackers though.



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yes, I like killing hackers though.

If everyone aimbots, then Santa HAS to return to Hawken. Right guys? :^)


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If you believe someone to be cheating, submit as much evidence as you can to support your claims to support and we will investigate further.


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If you believe someone to be cheating, submit as much evidence as you can to support your claims to support and we will investigate further.

what exactly do you guys do to INVESTIGATE on your guys side, im curious. What is it you guys look for specifically.


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what exactly do you guys do to INVESTIGATE on your guys side, im curious. What is it you guys look for specifically.

 

HOHO just trying to avoid getting caught.  Don't tell that hacker your secretz.


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HOHO just trying to avoid getting caught.  Don't tell that hacker your secretz.

:D u got to ask the right questions to get around the system shhh


Edited by HOHOHOSANTA, 25 October 2016 - 11:09 AM.


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what exactly do you guys do to INVESTIGATE on your guys side, im curious. What is it you guys look for specifically.

 

If I told you I'd have to disassemble your Mech into a scrapheap.


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If I told you I'd have to disassemble your Mech into a scrapheap.

Aslong as you reimbusrt me lol



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Aslong as you reimbusrt me lol

 

Prosk needs those parts for its anti-cheating efforts.


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Prosk needs those parts for its anti-cheating efforts.

why not just put those Mech Mods as Server Admins and surveillance them? I doubt you need so many just for the forums. That barely has new content on a daily basis, and there isn't many servers do to population so I think that would be do-able. Dont you think


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--Sniped --

 

What have you done with the real devs?

 

you are far to human and funny to be a real one lol

 

J/K dude.


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If you believe someone to be cheating, submit as much evidence as you can to support your claims to support and we will investigate further.

this does work, but you have to get solid evidence.  like HOHOHSANTA's streams. 


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I like going against the best of any game I play. Helps you in the long run n motivates u to do more. Always room for improvement not failure

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too afraid to ban in case the population decreases.

...in case they ban someone who was not actually hacking.

 

There is too much hackusations by people who are butthurt that they can't kill a very skilled player.

(I've never been hackused btw :'( )

 

One of Clarke's laws: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic

Howken law: Any sufficiently advanced pilot is indistinguishable from Hax0r

 

...yes there are also hax0rs that are not overt enough that can definitively tell from your average match recording.

You need to enable killcam and try to bait them into moves that break the inbuilt turncap, etc, etc while recording.



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when you see a hacker. msg me. I are Anti-Cheat. if only aimbot, it will cost a bounty of 10k hc, if speed hacks and aimbot together 20k hc, if it has wallhack, aimbot, and aimbot , 10k MC. 

 

Hey, guess who's unbanned?

 

Guess who's immediately going to try... not? be a fuzzy bunny out of the gate and... maybe come across as failing? I don't know it's been so long since I typed things here.

 

So this isn't directed solely at HOHO, but please, please don't do this fuzzy bunny. Putting bounties and fuzzy bunny on hackers, in general and with our hackers in particular, feeds them, feeds their egos and only encourages them. Before Reloaded took over the HKTS began a program just like this and we killed it in the cradle because research across multiple platforms and games showed that measures less than bans and particularly extra-authoritative had the exact opposite effect as intended. The last thing we need is the likes of you-know-who et al. getting ideas into their head about being outlaw anti-heroes and martyred renegades. I know Reloaded appear to suck balls at responding to tickets, but functional vigilante action will not have a positive effect.

 

Document it, report it, follow up.

 

Don't give them the dignity of your attention.


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Hey, guess who's unbanned?

 


Don't give them the dignity of your attention.

 

 

fixed that for you .... LOL jk dude :P


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fixed that for you .... LOL jk dude :P


My fuzzing god I'm going blue in the face saying this RECORD AND SUBMIT IT IN A TICKET IT FUZZING WORKS
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I like going against the best of any game I play. Helps you in the long run n motivates u to do more. Always room for improvement not failure

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czerofive-Today at 2:22 AM > got banned from playing lazertag - I used a knife to conserve ammo

FIRST OFF WHAT THE FUZZ IS A "SHILL"


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They don't even care about pc any more, it'll never happen.  Sad as I'd gladly pay to play this game same as any mmo if they did.



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same as any mmo


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They don't even care about pc any more, it'll never happen.  Sad as I'd gladly pay to play this game same as any mmo if they did.

 

Thanks for bringing the Hammer to the thread...

 

Drink up


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I think this topic has gone on long enough. We will be investigating anti-cheat measures... but if we tell you them outright, that doesn't make them very effective, does it?

 

Closing.


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