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Nay, check out the Space Engineers dev updates- every Thursday, without fail, they upload a Youtube video outlining all the big or important changes, and there are patch notes on their forum listing every change and bug fix etc. Don't get me wrong, that game is riddled with issues, but they are making strides in fixing them and improving the game play experience. It's a dream-like scenario in terms of communication.

 

All we get here is maybe one update a month, if that, saying 'we are working on stuff' and/or 'stuff is coming soon'. I think it might be time to just give up and see if anything worthwhile has changed in 6 months or so, assuming the devs don't go broke in that length of time, based on how few players they are ( hint: cash grabs don't work, you killed the player base and drove people away with stupid pricing and lazy content creation- great work there, really well done ). 


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people here clearly do not understand the arcane arts of game development and the dangerously demanding task of managing this community, everything we need to know has been posted in the update, nothing more nothing less

 

cut the devs some slack, sheesh, who are we to comprehend the work they do?


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people here clearly do not understand the arcane arts of game development and the dangerously demanding task of managing this community, everything we need to know has been posted in the update, nothing more nothing less

 

cut the devs some slack, sheesh, who are we to comprehend the work they do?

It's the internet, and if i've learned anything from the internet, it's that everyone knows all there is to know about everything because we are all so smrt and completely understand every situation 100% of the time without fail.


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dev update?
Check out the Star Citizen or the ARMA dev updates. Both fantastic and could help if you're struggling to establish an effective community communication strat.


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It's quiet easy to comprehend the work the devs do and have done- look at the game when they bought the rights, look at it now; plenty of knowledgeable folks have arrived at the same conclusion with regards to how the devs have decided to proceed. You can disagree and make excuses all you like, that doesn't change the facts of what has actually been done, and how little of that information has been relayed to us ( due to NDA or otherwise ).


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Would also like to mention that one of the biggest framerate gains was disabling fog volumes (It was rendering a huge polygon on the screen that did virtually nothing) and disabling the 'MobileFog' ini option which disables some advanced effects for fog display, traditionally for mobile devices.

 

The XB1/PS4 builds both saw improvements with these tweaks.

 

There was also something with subsurface scattering that did nothing for us as we didn't utilize the effect.

 

All of these are ini tweaks, and some may even provide performance gains on PC right now if you were to turn them off.


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Czero,
Thank you for that tidbit of info. To change those, it's just under settings?

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Czero,
Thank you for that tidbit of info. To change those, it's just under settings?

 

Those were under BaseSystemSettings.ini - I am not sure if the game will let you modify them on PC (it should, really, no reason why it shouldn't)

 

I am also not sure if it's a performance increase on DX9, but again, worth a shot.



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Would also like to mention that one of the biggest framerate gains was disabling fog volumes (It was rendering a huge polygon on the screen that did virtually nothing) and disabling the 'MobileFog' ini option which disables some advanced effects for fog display, traditionally for mobile devices.

 

The XB1/PS4 builds both saw improvements with these tweaks.

 

There was also something with subsurface scattering that did nothing for us as we didn't utilize the effect.

 

All of these are ini tweaks, and some may even provide performance gains on PC right now if you were to turn them off.

 

Ambient Oscillation, SubSurf Scattering and physix are known to be the most fps killing effects IMO...

 

I have these ALL disabled now and have gone from average 50-60 fps to 80-100 fps, with minimal othr changes...

 

Good advice here Zero,

 

one thing i will remention is that if you run reshade framework mediator and connect it to hawken with DX11, there is NO frame rate cost and it seems to translate almost instantly and adds dx 11 support to hawken, I run my hawken with DX 11 setup in this manner and have no problems


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Nay, check out the Space Engineers dev updates- every Thursday, without fail, they upload a Youtube video outlining all the big or important changes, and there are patch notes on their forum listing every change and bug fix etc. Don't get me wrong, that game is riddled with issues, but they are making strides in fixing them and improving the game play experience. It's a dream-like scenario in terms of communication.

 

All we get here is maybe one update a month, if that, saying 'we are working on stuff' and/or 'stuff is coming soon'. I think it might be time to just give up and see if anything worthwhile has changed in 6 months or so, assuming the devs don't go broke in that length of time, based on how few players they are ( hint: cash grabs don't work, you killed the player base and drove people away with stupid pricing and lazy content creation- great work there, really well done ). 

 

Oh yeah, btw...

 

BYE!!!

 

Take care, I would say i would miss your know it all pessimism... but well i'd be lying

 

no one is FORCING you to stay on the forums and post negative points about things you have many times over proven you dont actually understand...

 

good luck with your... future endevours... what ever they maybe


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Ambient Oscillation, SubSurf Scattering and physix are known to be the most fps killing effects IMO...

 

I have these ALL disabled now and have gone from average 50-60 fps to 80-100 fps, with minimal othr changes...

 

If you were a totally rad dude, you'd post what specific things you changed in what documents (if it's easy to to do through notepad or whatnot)


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If you were a totally rad dude, you'd post what specific things you changed in what documents (if it's easy to to do through notepad or whatnot)

HawkenSystemSettings.ini

CTRL+F

AllowSubsurfaceScattering=True > AllowSubsurfaceScattering=False

FogVolumes=True > FogVolumes=False

MobileFog=True > MobileFog=False

MobileHeightFog=True > MobileHeightFog=False

AmbientOcclusion=True > AmbientOcclusion=False ((incase he means occlusion) I'm p sure occlusion is in the in-game video settings menu tho)


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one thing i will remention is that if you run reshade framework mediator and connect it to hawken with DX11, there is NO frame rate cost and it seems to translate almost instantly and adds dx 11 support to hawken, I run my hawken with DX 11 setup in this manner and have no problems

 

We have the game running natively on DX11 on XB1 without a framework to convert DX9 -> DX11, and it's a small performance increase.


Edited by CZeroFive, 10 September 2016 - 09:13 PM.


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We have the game running natively on DX11 on XB1 without a framework to convert DX9 -> DX11, and it's a small performance increase.

 

yes but we on the PC arnt getting the love and attention of the xbone and ps4 players are we :P

 

improvisations were required

 

If you were a totally rad dude, you'd post what specific things you changed in what documents (if it's easy to to do through notepad or whatnot)

 

Let me be RAD then mah friend :P

 

Download

-http://reshade.me/

-Run the mediator

-Point at at Hawken exe

-Click direct 3d 10/11

-apply

 

its basically just like applying a reshade WITHOUT actually applying a reshade, that converts my hawken to dx 11

 

best part is, if it dosent improve your framerate... you can simply remove reshade and its back to normal, no risky ini edits required

though i DO believe Zero is really onto something with his suggested edits

 

 

 

HawkenSystemSettings.ini

CTRL+F

AllowSubsurfaceScattering=True > AllowSubsurfaceScattering=False

FogVolumes=True > FogVolumes=False

MobileFog=True > MobileFog=False

MobileHeightFog=True > MobileHeightFog=False

AmbientOcclusion=True > AmbientOcclusion=False ((incase he means occlusion) I'm p sure occlusion is in the in-game video settings menu tho)

 

You are correctly and AO being in menu... you can actualy edit the AO settings and leave it enabled, i have mine turned on with a max rating of 0.1 at a 5 fps cost


Edited by DemitronPrime, 10 September 2016 - 11:18 PM.

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In terms of optimization and framerates we had a rather fantastic GPU profiling session with some friends over at Intel, and we’re starting to implement some of those findings.  Happily, the DX11 update we had done had actually resolved a few problems they had noticed before, so if nothing else it was good to get some external confirmation on some tech decisions.  The optimizations we are starting to work on will apply to all platforms: XB1, PS4, and PC.

 

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Is there a way to track improvement from post .inichanges reccomended?

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Is there a way to track improvement from post .inichanges reccomended?

 

Yes. We have a GPU profiling tool from Intel that shows the time spent to render a single frame in ?s.

 

You can find the tool here (It's free, and we love it.)

https://software.intel.com/en-us/gpa

 

The improvement went from 400?s on average to 200?s on average.


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Yes. We have a GPU profiling tool from Intel that shows the time spent to render a single frame in ?s.

 

You can find the tool here (It's free, and we love it.)

https://software.intel.com/en-us/gpa

 

The improvement went from 400?s on average to 200?s on average.

stat unit does the same, no?



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Any update on the time table for the patch mentioned by Tiggs that could be rolling out in a few weeks a few weeks ago?
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Any update on the time table for the patch mentioned by Tiggs that could be rolling out in a few weeks a few weeks ago?

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stat unit does the same, no?

 

That shows the time, yes. But Intel actually shows detailed analysis of shaders, 3D Images of the frame as effects are applied, etc. Which makes tracking down things like this much easier when you see for example a 3D Box with no texture applied.

 

Their utility also allows for a 'before and after' comparison, ie; what if this rendering event never happened sort of thing.


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no one is FORCING you to stay on the forums and post negative points about things you have many times over proven you dont actually understand...

 

 

 

Tell me, what are you thoughts about scanners?   ( no reply needed, I already know- seems I'm not the only one with unpopular opinions ).

 

I may just hang around to watch the world burn...  :devil:


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Tell me, what are you thoughts about scanners?   ( no reply needed, I already know- seems I'm not the only one with unpopular opinions ).

 

I may just hang around to watch the world burn...  :devil:

LOL!!!

 

was that meant to be clever?

 

pointing out that i dont like scanners and your a scanner using skrub?

 

wtg man... hands down you win

 

oh btw, that was sarcasim


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This might be entertaining.  All right, proceed.


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LOL!!!

 

was that meant to be clever?

 

pointing out that i dont like scanners and your a scanner using skrub?

 

wtg man... hands down you win

 

oh btw, that was sarcasim

 

I don't use scanners, haven't done for months and months- I do however see plenty of other, 'respected' players using them, which I find amusing- no names of course... 

 

Once again though, you lie about how I play the game even though we've never been in a match together, to my knowledge, and your spelling is still atrocious; do you see those red marks under what you type? You might want to pay attention to those in future, just a thought. Take care now, Mr negative K/D ratio :)


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I don't use scanners, haven't done for months and months- I do however see plenty of other, 'respected' players using them, which I find amusing- no names of course... 

 

Once again though, you lie about how I play the game even though we've never been in a match together, to my knowledge, and your spelling is still atrocious; do you see those red marks under what you type? You might want to pay attention to those in future, just a thought. Take care now, Mr negative K/D ratio :)

LOL!!!

 

this is funnier than the first post... Please... by all means senpai, show me your masterful ways...

 

oh wait...

nevermind

btw dude, i havent used scanners... in YEARS... months of not using scanners and extractors does not remove skrub status...

 

and here is a challenge for you mister master...

 

why dont YOU try playing with the highest ping on the server against the people i play against...

oh wait, nevermind, you would probibly rage quit within 5 minutes after being owned repetitively...

 

you run the same build in almost every mech

 

fail safe and airdodge... even on the incin and vanguard... nice extractor reaper BTW... always good for a laugh...

 

p.s airdodge in a  g2 raider is a complete waste of slots....

 

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LOL!!!

 

this is funnier than the first post... Please... by all means senpai, show me your masterful ways...

 

oh wait...

nevermind

btw dude, i havent used scanners... in YEARS... months of not using scanners and extractors does not remove skrub status...

 

and here is a challenge for you mister master...

 

why dont YOU try playing with the highest ping on the server against the people i play against...

oh wait, nevermind, you would probibly rage quit within 5 minutes after being owned repetitively...

 

Oh, so years of not using scanners and extractors DOES remove fuzzy bunny status, but months doesn't- that's some wonderfully hypocritical reasoning right there, you do make me laugh. Like I said, plenty of long-time players still use scanners on public servers- any agreement not to on private servers or organised matches is besides the point. I could call you a fuzzy bunny for using item X or mech Y- your reasoning bears no relevance. Plenty of good, top-tier players switch to Rocketeer on certain maps where it gives them an advantage ( last eco, bunker )- is that not scrubby too? Give up trying to apply backwards logic to your viewpoint, you are failing miserably. 

 

I have played with the highest ping on the server most times I use the USA servers- typically it's 150-180, sometimes higher if they are west coast. Guess what? I stay until the end every time, unless I genuinely can't hit anything due to the lag and I'm teleporting, in which case I say sorry for not being able to do anything useful and leave. When you can't hit anything, it's only natural to be a sitting duck- no need for anyone to feel bad in that situation; stick me on a 40-60 server and I'll just be fine and dandy, my illiterate foe.


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Oh, so years of not using scanners and extractors DOES remove fuzzy bunny status, but months doesn't- that's some wonderfully hypocritical reasoning right there, you do make me laugh. Like I said, plenty of long-time players still use scanners on public servers- any agreement not to on private servers or organised matches is besides the point. I could call you a fuzzy bunny for using item X or mech Y- your reasoning bears no relevance. Plenty of good, top-tier players switch to Rocketeer on certain maps where it gives them an advantage ( last eco, bunker )- is that not scrubby too? Give up trying to apply backwards logic to your viewpoint, you are failing miserably. 

 

I have played with the highest ping on the server most times I use the USA servers- typically it's 150-180, sometimes higher if they are west coast. Guess what? I stay until the end every time, unless I genuinely can't hit anything due to the lag and I'm teleporting, in which case I say sorry for not being able to do anything useful and leave. When you can't hit anything, it's only natural to be a sitting duck- no need for anyone to feel bad in that situation; stick me on a 40-60 server and I'll just be fine and dandy, my illiterate foe.

 

lol please. do enlighten me... what top tier players switch to a non ironic rockateer?

 

and dude, im not your foe...

 

you only feel that way because you feel like despite my faults... i make you look bad... sad part is, you do that to yourself


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lol please. do enlighten me... what top tier players switch to a non ironic rockateer?

 

and dude, im not your foe...

 

you only feel that way because you feel like despite my faults... i make you look bad... sad part is, you do that to yourself

 

No call outs.

 

You don't make me look bad- your spelling makes YOU look bad though- how old are you, 12? 

 

You do certain things to yourself but we won't discuss that here- there are children watching :D

 

Anyway, bed time now- more slanging matches later hunny buns. 


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 Plenty of good, top-tier players switch to Rocketeer on certain maps where it gives them an advantage ( last eco, bunker )

 

 

What self-respecting top-tier players are doing this? 

 

"not gon name names b/c call out policy" is not a reason


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 Plenty of good, top-tier players switch to Rocketeer on certain maps where it gives them an advantage ( last eco, bunker )- is that not scrubby too? 

This sounds like a contradictory statement to me, unless you're actually good at Rocketeer, which given how hard that is without Seeker is just silly, since you can do just as good with something like Sharpshooter on those same maps.


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What self-respecting top-tier players are doing this? 

 

"not gon name names b/c call out policy" is not a reason

 

It is- getting warning points for even mentioning other people in certain contexts is simply not worth it- some guys might be happy to be martyrs, I'm not.

 

I might make a video next time I notice some 'familiar names' using scanners- I don't play much any more, just an hour or two a week and even then it usually ends with getting the 'not good' team too many times in a row. I had to make a video to send to the devs earlier this evening since a very well known terribad player decided to troll both teams and exploit from on top of the map.

 

I wouldn't pay any attention to me and demi though- it's all just blowing smoke up each others backsides, nothing serious- entertainment purposes only...


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This sounds like a contradictory statement to me, unless you're actually good at Rocketeer, which given how hard that is without Seeker is just silly, since you can do just as good with something like Sharpshooter on those same maps.

 

Nah. The issue with the Rocketeer on a very open map is that 'skill-fires' can become unbearable, especially if there are two, three or four on one team even; we all know how silly the Nief is on console, so... you get the point hopefully. You don't need to be good to simply camp on a hill and spam seekers and hellfires at an exposed hill that needs defending- one rocketeer either side of you and you are in serious trouble...


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It is- getting warning points for even mentioning other people in certain contexts is simply not worth it- some guys might be happy to be martyrs, I'm not.

 

I might make a video next time I notice some 'familiar names' using scanners- I don't play much any more, just an hour or two a week and even then it usually ends with getting the 'not good' team too many times in a row. I had to make a video to send to the devs earlier this evening since a very well known terribad player decided to troll both teams and exploit from on top of the map.

 

I wouldn't pay any attention to me and demi though- it's all just blowing smoke up each others backsides, nothing serious- entertainment purposes only...

 

I only doubted your statement because it just flat out doesn't make sense to switch to Rocketeer especially when any other mech would do the stomping so much easier.  Assault.  Switching to Assault as a top tier player is a move to gain an advantage, every single time.  Switching to Rocketeer is intentionally nerfing yourself to make matches more even, even on open maps.  Top tier players know this.  Top 100 players would know this. Top 250 players would know this. 

 

But I presume you aren't exactly a top tier player that would obviously know these things.

 

Or perhaps you are afraid to name names because there are few, if any.  If you're afraid that someone will report you for naming them as a player who switches to Rocketeer from time to time, I'm surprised you post on the forums at all.


Edited by Silverfire, 18 September 2016 - 04:35 PM.

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