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Holy fuzzy bunny. Just decided tonight to test out Hawken on max, and damn is it beautiful. I'll admit it, I hopped on a smurf to do so. My fps was absolutely atrocious, but it didn't matter. I've only got a laptop that can't really handle a lot, especially not max. But seriously, all you guys in the same boat as me, try it for a full map rotation, just to see this fuzzy bunny. Smurf if you have to. Sooo worth it


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Was that you praising the game in chat? 



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I went from running it on max to running it on low to running it on max. I forgot how awesome it looked. I actually get lost in maps now because I don't recognize certain areas... The lighting gets me the most. The lighting... And btw. You absolutely do not need an Nvidia card or a super powerful CPU to run physX. I'm running the game on max with an AMD Athlon x4 860k @3.89 and an R9 270 and I actually had to cap my framerate because the CRT monitor I'm running until next week was getting some flicker. I forgot about flicker. The game runs between 60 and 140 fps for me without the cap. Never drops below 59 with it.

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Did you just tell me you played Hawken on settings below the maximum? For the whole time until now? Ouch. 

 

60+ FPS with max settings in every situation plus recording in best quality. 

 

 

The only thing that is turned off is PhysX as it is buggy (sometimes stuck at 5 FPS and jumps back to 60 again).


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Did you just tell me you played Hawken on settings below the maximum? For the whole time until now? Ouch.

60+ FPS with max settings in every situation plus recording in best quality.


The only thing that is turned off is PhysX as it is buggy (sometimes stuck at 5 FPS and jumps back to 60 again).


What are you running?

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Was that you praising the game in chat? 

lol... I can neither confirm nor deny said allegation. 


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Did you just tell me you played Hawken on settings below the maximum? For the whole time until now? Ouch. 

 

60+ FPS with max settings in every situation plus recording in best quality. 

 

 

The only thing that is turned off is PhysX as it is buggy (sometimes stuck at 5 FPS and jumps back to 60 again).

Sorry my computer can't handle it?


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What are you running?

 

 

It is around 3-4 years old now:

 

IntelCore i7 x4 3.40 Ghz (+4 virtual cores)

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8 GB RAM (might upgarde soon)

nVidia GeForce GTX 970 - (recently upgraded)

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11 fans to cool down my rig (2 of them are 20cm)

 

And some 730W Thermaltake PSU (modular) - (also recently upgraded, the 970 GPU caused overlaods with my old PSU ;D)

 

 

Plus some extras like a personal fan for myself for hot days.


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I actually get lost in maps now because I don't recognize certain areas...

 

When I got my new computer last year I had the same feeling. I played on low settings and barely made it to 30fps. Then I got a new machine and I was able to play it on max settings with 60fps. Hawken was a completly new game experience then :D


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I could probably run ultra with my i3-2120/R9 270X combo, but I choose to play on low for the FPS. Hawken is still beautiful even at low.

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I could probably run ultra with my i3-2120/R9 270X combo, but I choose to play on low for the FPS. Hawken is still beautiful even at low.


I'm looking forward to Zen and the R9 300 series. I guess HP kind of pre announced the 380 for us on accudent. Kinda like dat fallout 4 leak. So much good stuff recently!

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It is around 3-4 years old now:

 

IntelCore i7 x4 3.40 Ghz (+4 virtual cores)

Onboard sound

8 GB RAM (might upgarde soon)

nVidia GeForce GTX 970 - (recently upgraded)

[deactivated] nVidia GeForce GTX 560 Ti (around 50 FPS to play Hawken with max. settings)

 

11 fans to cool down my rig (2 of them are 20cm)

 

And some 730W Thermaltake PSU (modular) - (also recently upgraded, the 970 GPU caused overlaods with my old PSU ;D)

 

 

Plus some extras like a personal fan for myself for hot days.

If your power supply will allow it, you can use that old 560 Ti as a dedicated PhysX card. Hawken doesn't really need anything higher than a GTX 270 for dedicated PhysX but that cards a power hog vs the 560 Ti.

 

Plus upgrade dat ram, join the 16GB+ club :3

you'll need it in the long run, more and more games are demanding 8~10GB


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I'm looking forward to Zen and the R9 300 series. I guess HP kind of pre announced the 380 for us on accudent. Kinda like dat fallout 4 leak. So much good stuff recently!


The fact that R9 300 series has HBM memory stacking is a huge draw, it's looking super promising, but unfortunately I largely need CUDA for certain stuff (and I'm still not a huge fan of AMD cards' power draw, idk about R9 300s yet). So I'm waiting for Nvidia 1000 series for that memory stacking, boohoo. Might bite on a R9 300 series for gaming though.

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The fact that R9 300 series has HBM memory stacking is a huge draw, it's looking super promising, but unfortunately I largely need CUDA for certain stuff (and I'm still not a huge fan of AMD cards' power draw, idk about R9 300s yet). So I'm waiting for Nvidia 1000 series for that memory stacking, boohoo. Might bite on a R9 300 series for gaming though.

Errr, Nvidia isn't planning on using 3D memory or HBM for that matter till Pascal/Volta. Also if the press release sources are true R9 360, 370, 380 are coming on June 11th and R9 390 390X are coming a few days later on the 24th.


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I've been getting the same framerate at low/low as I get with settings on high/high.  My game or computer is messed up.


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Errr, Nvidia isn't planning on using 3D memory or HBM for that matter till Pascal/Volta. Also if the press release sources are true R9 360, 370, 380 are coming on June 11th and R9 390 390X are coming a few days later on the 24th.


Isn't the next gen of Nvidia cards Pascal aka 1000 series? It's coming, just waiting unfortunately. I know the AMD cards are coming much sooner though. I'm sitting on a pile of old (but very solid) hardware are evidenced by my Sig anyway. Probably won't upgrade any time soon because I'm still semi-holding up.

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Isn't the next gen of Nvidia cards Pascal aka 1000 series? It's coming, just waiting unfortunately. I know the AMD cards are coming much sooner though. I'm sitting on a pile of old (but very solid) hardware are evidenced by my Sig anyway. Probably won't upgrade any time soon because I'm still semi-holding up.

It is, but Nvidia hasn't decided on a release date. Last time they mentioned anything about Pascal it was for 2016/2017. Since Nvidia often keeps in tune with Intel's Tick/Tock release timing, Pascal will probably surface with Skylake, which is around Q2 of 2016.


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It is, but Nvidia hasn't decided on a release date. Last time they mentioned anything about Pascal it was for 2016/2017. Since Nvidia often keeps in tune with Intel's Tick/Tock release timing, Pascal will probably surface with Skylake, which is around Q2 of 2016.


I suppose I can wait another year-ish. One year won't kill my current hardware and it'll still be relevant, kind of. Sandy Bridge and Yorkfield are both still kicking strong despite their age.

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I suppose I can wait another year-ish. One year won't kill my current hardware and it'll still be relevant, kind of. Sandy Bridge and Yorkfield are both still kicking strong despite their age.

Yeah, most people in the inner tech circle of things, are pretty much proclaiming not to buy anything PC related this year because of everything coming next year. Like i said in my previous post only thing making a splash if rumors are true is AMD's R9 300 series, but next year we got Pascal, Zen, Skylake, Windows 10, etc, etc all coming. 2015 is more or less a slump year.


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The fact that R9 300 series has HBM memory stacking is a huge draw, it's looking super promising, but unfortunately I largely need CUDA for certain stuff (and I'm still not a huge fan of AMD cards' power draw, idk about R9 300s yet). So I'm waiting for Nvidia 1000 series for that memory stacking, boohoo. Might bite on a R9 300 series for gaming though.


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Yeah, most people in the inner tech circle of things, are pretty much proclaiming not to buy anything PC related this year because of everything coming next year. Like i said in my previous post only thing making a splash if rumors are true is AMD's R9 300 series, but next year we got Pascal, Zen, Skylake, Windows 10, etc, etc all coming. 2015 is more or less a slump year.


Depends on the build. I'm not really an early adopter so I'll be waiting to see what's what. If Zen hits Mini ITX I'll early adopt, but the R9 300 series isn't really convincing me to adopt early yet. Neither is Nvidias offerings... We shall see though.

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Depends on the build. I'm not really an early adopter so I'll be waiting to see what's what. If Zen hits Mini ITX I'll early adopt, but the R9 300 series isn't really convincing me to adopt early yet. Neither is Nvidias offerings... We shall see though.

*facepalms* Different architectures don't "come" to different form factors, it's up to the 3rd party board manufacturers to make them. Look at LGA 2011-3, it's on eATX, ATX, mATX and ITX. Board partners decide on the form factor, Intel/AMD doesn't. More and more people are going SFF so most likely, yes Zen will have an ITX board, it may even have a DTX board.

 

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I don't blame you for being not excited over R9 300, when R9 400 is coming next year (Northern Islands) with full 3D memory where as R9 300 (Pirate Islands) is only going to have 2.5D memory.


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*facepalms* Different architectures don't "come" to different form factors, it's up to the 3rd party board manufacturers to make them. Look at LGA 2011-3, it's on eATX, ATX, mATX and ITX. Board partners decide on the form factor, Intel/AMD doesn't. More and more people are going SFF so most likely, yes Zen will have an ITX board, it may even have a DTX board.

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I don't blame you for being not excited over R9 300, when R9 400 is coming next year (Northern Islands) with full 3D memory where as R9 300 (Pirate Islands) is only going to have 2.5D memory.

I didn't say it was up to AMD. Not a single board manufacturer made an M ITX for FX. Though that may have something to do with the fact that AMD didn't send out a single reference board for the FX line which both AMD and Intel should do if they want total saturation.

And to clarify, I know that FX is not an architecture. What I mean is that I hope AMD's premier Zen line comes to mini ITX.

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I didn't say it was up to AMD. Not a single board manufacturer made an M ITX for FX. Though that may have something to do with the fact that AMD didn't send out a single reference board for the FX line which both AMD and Intel should do if they want total saturation.

And to clarify, I know that FX is not an architecture. What I mean is that I hope AMD's premier Zen line comes to mini ITX.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131659 ?

 

that's the smallest you'll get. Most M-ITX boards are save for Intel BGA processors


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PhysX Off, Ultra, Ultra: very pretty, 88 - 122 FPS at ~65deg C gpu temps, but too "foggy". Crap gets bleary enough when DUI, as it is. I leave it Off/Ultra/Low. Specs in brag bar on sig.

 

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Hawken looked good on my old laptop on low settings. But then when I got my new PC, I couldn't believe how good it was with good settings and FPS. The same went for Planetside 2, Dota 2, and CSGO.


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You think the game looks good on Ultra now? Ultra now doesn't even compare to how it looked in Alpha.



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My fps was absolutely atrocious,

And this is why I don't put it on max settings. I've tried, really. For me the FPS drop is so not worth it. I'd rather have FPS consistency than a good looking game.



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Can't stand anything below 80-90 FPS, since I have a high refresh rate monitor that allows more frames to be rendered on the display. In order to have an average of 100+ fps on *every* map, running Medium with PhysX completely disabled is needed, which I already know is mainly due to poor optimization regarding the engine.

 

Must say though, the impact on match performance with a 144Hz vs a 60Hz monitor is quite dramatic. Since the transition, I've increased my accuracy and reaction time considerably. Unfortunately, once you experience the difference between the two, you'll perceive frame rate fluctuations even more, which is exactly why I'd rather trade quality for performance on Hawken. You can only do so much on a game running on a Direct3D API that is 10+ years outdated, though.


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What amazes me is that it is still only using DX9.

 

Just goes to show you how much influence a good texture designer has on the looks of the game.



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http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131659 ?

that's the smallest you'll get. Most M-ITX boards are save for Intel BGA processors


That doesn't support FX.

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That doesn't support FX.

My bad, most older chipsets were able to upgrade to support but not all. but the AM3+ platform never saw an ITX it's only gone as small as mATX.


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My bad, most older chipsets were able to upgrade to support but not all. but the AM3+ platform never saw an ITX it's only gone as small as mATX.


It makes me very sad. =[ However, these little quad core Athlons are pretty powerful. ERverything on my rig is very snappy. I love it. I suspect Zen will have FX and APU varients. I like that they did the Athlon refresh. It makes me wonder. With Kevari using Steamroller for there Athlon cores it would be cool to see a Phenom refresh with the Zen APUs. P6 P8 and P10 and then releasing the Phenom refresh.

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I have always ran everything at max except blur. I hate blur in any game thank you. I run PhysX at max as I have a EVGA GTX780 ACX. I get 121 to 134 FPS on average. I don't think I've ever seen it drop below 80 even in 24 player maps. Really love my setup. It has taken a long time of tweaking and testing but I run all my games on max. :D Check my profile out. It list full specs for my system if you want. Even has some pics of there too. Yeah the game in it's full graphic glory is pretty damn nice to be honest. Lot of tiny little details all over the place. When I very first started Hawken back in 2012 I had a AMD 5850 that was pretty nice. I got like 60 to 80 FPS on average and was decent but no comparison to this GTX780.


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It is around 3-4 years old now:

 

IntelCore i7 x4 3.40 Ghz (+4 virtual cores)

Onboard sound

8 GB RAM (might upgarde soon)

nVidia GeForce GTX 970 - (recently upgraded)

[deactivated] nVidia GeForce GTX 560 Ti (around 50 FPS to play Hawken with max. settings)

 

11 fans to cool down my rig (2 of them are 20cm)

 

And some 730W Thermaltake PSU (modular) - (also recently upgraded, the 970 GPU caused overlaods with my old PSU ;D)

 

 

Plus some extras like a personal fan for myself for hot days.

Real men overclock. 4.5GHz 3770k here. 

 

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Real men overclock. 4.5GHz 3770k here. 

 

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Wow. I have a 970 as well and can't get the game above 30-45 fps in team fights (with max settings), sometimes it's even lower. I've seen folks here with weaker hardware claiming 60-120 fps; are you guys just bullshitting or what?

 

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