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Hey there. I haven't played for a few months, mostly due to the fact that my account credentials were basically were shredded. Everything's fixed now, but I've noticed that the new "NAm" servers are especially laggy. I get about 30-40 ping higher than I used to, along with teleporting enemies and generally poor hit registration.

 

This wasn't as big of a problem before, as I used to be able to migrate to a server that was closer to my geographical location (I'm in Canada), but now that all the servers are designated simply as "NAm" I have no idea which is which, and all of the servers I have tried so far all give me the same problem. I can't tell if it's a matter of simply having bad luck and consistently connecting to servers far away from me or whether the new servers are just generally laggier across the board.

 

Either way, my experience with Hawken today was a lot less fun than I remember. I hope this can be fixed, or at the very least some datacenters will open up further north so that maybe I can properly hit things again.

 

Note: I do, in fact, have a good internet connection. The last speedtest I did put my download speed at 173 mbps and my upload speed at 18 mbps.


Edited by Nightfirebolt, 24 November 2016 - 10:57 PM.

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yea makes the LA servers look good, poor servers and the bugs/glitches will keep this game from becoming good.



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Same happens in EU, although it seems to be getting better in last couple of weeks.

Me and a few people experience accidental lag spikes with ping hitting up to 900ms.

First it starts as a +40~80 to normal ping and takes around 2-5 minutes to hit top and go back to standard value.

Some servers seem a bit more prone to this occurence happening, but I can't recall which ones atm.


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Me and a few people experience accidental lag spikes with ping hitting up to 900ms.

 

For me hell as always , laggy ,bad hit reg, apike etc not fun anymore


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Anyone knows where are located the new EU servers ?



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Was getting 48-60 average ping (NA)...now it's been 80-100 average ping on any given server...still playable, though not good but with the other issues as stated above.  :sad:


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Lag spike and hit reg issues abound. Sometimes it'll settle down further into the match, sometimes it requires a game restart. These servers aren't even close to the quality of the ones when I first started playing when reloaded took over.
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Have to agree. This is not a isolated incident. It is the norm now. Lag and screwed up hitreg abound. I still play but god it is annoying beyond belief. :wallbash:


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I teleport a lot, hit reg is fine for me usually but while walking/boosting I sometimes get very slight teleporting, like I'll suddenly teleport a couple feet from where I thought I was.. it's just barely enough to throw me off and I can't play like that :c
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I teleport a lot, hit reg is fine for me usually but while walking/boosting I sometimes get very slight teleporting, like I'll suddenly teleport a couple feet from where I thought I was.. it's just barely enough to throw me off and I can't play like that :c

 

Thanks to dermax's wonderful little spotlight thread on pingplotter, I know that I get packet loss at a certain point of the leg to the servers, mainly when it hits the edge of ATT and Level3 trunks.  anywhere from minor to major, and something about the netcode in hawken seems to not like that at all.  the former is something that is out of my hands, and I dunno how close to the edge my problem case is to see it fixed in netcode.

 

the moment my ping moves up or down(say from 36 to 40 - my average on NA servers), I get a few seconds of severe teleporting - I'll make several hops/skips while simply moving forward, and a dodge can put me anywhere within 2 or 3 dodges of where I should be.

 

server: "were you trying to dodge that tow? no, no, you ate that whole thing, then dodged and turn to face a wall, which you were shooting at point blank."'

 

If shooting walls at point blank counted for something, I'd be no. 1 NA at it by now. 


Edited by coldform, 25 November 2016 - 06:02 PM.

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I'll get up to over 400ms over seas average of 200ms normal, and average of 80ms here. My ping can go from 70-120 range and hold around 200ms for up to a few minutes at time and then dial back down to normal. Almost every server. Randomly, Rubberbanding happens, and mistimed shots resulting in misses.


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to me it feels like the tickrate is lower so my input/mouse is losing alot of fidelity forcing me to have to move it alot more to turn camera but i kept getting 108 ping and anything over 100 i see this result normaly as if some kind of tickrate just caped itself to try compensating or somethion



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Anyone knows where are located the new EU servers ?

 

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I've been complaining about the increasingly fuzzy bunny servers for months.
https://community.pl...erver-is-awful/

I have typically given them the benefit of the doubt and assumed it's mostly on my end, but then I start up Overwatch or something else and *surprise* no issues. Only Howken.


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Unfortunately there's a limited amount of things we can do at this point.

If indeed the PC servers are lagging, it may not even be a hardware issue - as console players use the same exact locations and do not encounter the issues PC players are experiencing. Which indicates to me that it may be an issue with the older codebase that we have fixed - there are several instances where we've improved threading on the console codebase for server performance.

 

Fortunately, it won't be much longer for the PC relaunch, and when that happens a number of issues will seemingly resolve themselves. I know this is sort of a cop-out answer, however, it's the best one I have for you right now.

 

As for further north servers, I don't think the location of the servers are the issue. If you're in NA, the servers in NA should be playable. I play on LA servers from the east coast and have no issues. But that's in console. If anything, it may be the performance of the servers at stake. If that is the case, however, we cannot fix it until much later.


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Maybe you should start playing on the PC...


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Maybe you should start playing on the PC...

 

We do, and it's tolerable to us, but definitely there's always room for improvement.

 

The matter of the fact is the PC codebase is in a code freeze of sorts, and we're not ready to make changes to the client or server at this time, outside of hardware changes.


Edited by CZeroFive, 26 November 2016 - 06:22 PM.

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We do, and it's tolerable, but definitely room for improvement.

I think this statement sums up my sentiments on this subject pretty well.

Edited by coldform, 26 November 2016 - 06:23 PM.

I like going against the best of any game I play. Helps you in the long run n motivates u to do more. Always room for improvement not failure

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Well, thanks for addressing my concerns CZeroFive, it's nice to get developer feedback so promptly.

 

However, this definitely means that I won't be playing much Hawken until the content patch goes live.

 

Peace out until then!


Edited by Nightfirebolt, 26 November 2016 - 11:21 PM.

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Well, thanks for addressing my concerns CZeroFive, it's nice to get developer feedback so promptly.

However, this definitely means that I won't be playing much Hawken until the content patch goes live.

Peace out until then!


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I don't know what has been going on with servers lately, but they getting unplayable.  I have the same ping here in the US as I do on the EU servers. Do we not have servers here in the US anymore? At least on EU servers I'm not rubberbanding like here on the US servers. By the way I am in the Midwest



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I don't know what has been going on with servers lately, but they getting unplayable.  I have the same ping here in the US as I do on the EU servers. Do we not have servers here in the US anymore? At least on EU servers I'm not rubberbanding like here on the US servers. By the way I am in the Midwest

 

Nice necro.  I think they may have changed the servers again recently though.  There was the original shift from the region named servers to the 6 digit ID'd servers which I think this thread was created in response to, but I had started to memorize what ping I'd get on which ID's, assuming the ID's correspond to locations.  The other day I played on a 712685 server, typically the 71268x series always give me high and fluctuating ping, but this time I had 16 ping and it was glorious, basically feels like turning on god mode.  I'd guess that was an LA server which people seem to hate but since I live about an hour from LA they are always amazing for me.

 

But who really knows whats going on?



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I’ve heard that vpns reduce ping/lag while gaming online, provide other benefits for web browsing (here I’ve read it https://www.bestvpnr...est-vpns-gaming). Will it fix the problem of lagging or just cause other problems? 



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I have had horrid latency to us recently.
I used to get 220-280, but recently its been 100ms higher on average. Theres only a couple of mechs playable with that ping.

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Yea I've receently noticed that on the  71268x series servers I do get better ping compared to the others out there,, usually around 60-70 instead of the 120-200 ping on other USA servers






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