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Another "get gud"...

Go away, you contribute nothing.

 

You don't get it.  The ONLY way to do anything is to study what is different about those who are better. 

 

You're so quick to dismiss me.  Any of the really old oldltimers will tell you I sucked, BAD.  I'm 50 years old. If *I* can learn to play better, ANYONE can learn to play better.

 

It's in the ATTITUDE.  Yours sucks.


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You don't get it.  The ONLY way to do anything is to study what is different about those who are better. 

 

You're so quick to dismiss me.  Any of the really old oldltimers will tell you I sucked, BAD.  I'm 50 years old. If *I* can learn to play better, ANYONE can learn to play better.

 

It's in the ATTITUDE.  Yours sucks.

 

I'll be 60 in a week, my attitude is just fine.

The get gud posts are absolutely useless.

 

I've read your posts and your a fuzzy bunny disturber.

You have contributed absolutely nothing to this thread.

My statement stands... go away.


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I'll be 60 in a week, my attitude is just fine.

The get gud posts are absolutely useless.

 

I've read your posts and your a fuzzy bunny disturber.

You have contributed absolutely nothing to this thread.

My statement stands... go away.

 

Nah mate, putting my foot down here. You trotted into a goddamn information thread with your nonsense and proceeded to put Poopslinger to shame.

 

You leave if you've got a problem with someone calling your BS out. It's not welcome here.


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You leave if you've got a problem with someone calling your BS out. It's not welcome here.

 

Not all his comments were BS, it's rather the way that it was put that kinda annoys me. As far as saying "git gud" is concerned, I agree with him. But Call_me_Ishmael didn't say anything about getting good - or at least in those words.

 

But Draigun basically called him ignorant and arrogant which, in my opinion, he was not completely entitled to say. Why? Because the ignorance and arrogance is on both ends of the arguement. The lower MMR players don't know what it's like to not find a game without a bit of issues (my "ignorance" coming through here - I don't know how much trouble it is for you guys) and high-tier peoples ruin lower tier games and don't know how they feel. So these comments are truly not needed in this discussion. I'm not even going to put in any more about my complaining about the AU servers and how I have it worse than the veterans because I have no one to play with.

 

Speaking of which, I just came from a game from America and I've got a few words to say:

 

Step up your game, America.

 

Seriously, there's an island full of poisonous drop-bears that have been trained in seclusion and are not as easy as it seems. To make matters worse - I'm not one of them.



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Way ahead of you...

 

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Not all his comments were BS, it's rather the way that it was put that kinda annoys me. As far as saying "git gud" is concerned, I agree with him. But Call_me_Ishmael didn't say anything about getting good - or at least in those words.

 

But Draigun basically called him ignorant and arrogant which, in my opinion, he was not completely entitled to say. Why? Because the ignorance and arrogance is on both ends of the arguement. The lower MMR players don't know what it's like to not find a game without a bit of issues (my "ignorance" coming through here - I don't know how much trouble it is for you guys) and high-tier peoples ruin lower tier games and don't know how they feel. So these comments are truly not needed in this discussion. I'm not even going to put in any more about my complaining about the AU servers and how I have it worse than the veterans because I have no one to play with.

 

Speaking of which, I just came from a game from America and I've got a few words to say:

 

git gud, America.

 

Seriously, there's an island full of poisonous drop-bears that have been trained in seclusion and are not as easy as it seems. To make matters worse - I'm not one of them.

 

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You forgot the capital letter in the "git gud, America". :P

 

 

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I'll be 60 in a week, my attitude is just fine.

The get gud posts are absolutely useless.

 

I've read your posts and your a fuzzy bunny disturber.

You have contributed absolutely nothing to this thread.

My statement stands... go away.

 

I bet you'd make a statement like this:  "I won't play against an OP <insert mech class here>".  I'm pretty confident I'd win that bet.

 

Your attitude sucks.  You'd rather wrap yourself in your misplaced sense of fair play than actually improve yourself at something you and others deem worthwhile.

 

Really, it'll come down to this:  you have no skill, and don't want to invest time in improving.  You'd rather LEGISLATE your way to 'fairness'.  And when your legislation passes, you're entitled - right there in the law of the land, Title II - 'Those who suck are entitled to win against those who suck worse'.

 

There is no refutation to the argument.  Only YOU get to play against players weaker than you, so you can beat them.  And you never have to face players who HAVE learned how to be better than you.

 

You cannot argue from your position.  You lose. 


Edited by Call_Me_Ishmael, 04 September 2015 - 08:55 PM.

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I bet you'd make a statement like this:  "I won't play against an OP <insert mech class here>".  I'm pretty confident I'd win that bet.

 

Your attitude sucks.  You'd rather wrap yourself in your misplaced sense of fair play than actually improve yourself at something you and others deem worthwhile.

 

Really, it'll come down to this:  you have no skill, and don't want to invest time in improving.  You'd rather LEGISLATE your way to 'fairness'.  And when your legislation passes, you're entitled - right there in the law of the land, Title II - 'Those who suck are entitled to win against those who suck worse'.

 

There is no refutation to the argument.  Only YOU get to play against players weaker than you, so you can beat them.  And you never have to face players who HAVE learned how to be better than you.

 

You cannot argue from your position.  You lose. 

 

 

Yet another personal attack...

This thread is NOT about me, you or anyone else. 

This thread is about high mmr players in low mmr matches.

Rules, got to have them.

Hawken needs to retain new and old players.

The design of the game steps you through levels as you play and get better your matched with other players in your skill range... this is broken now.

Don't believe me... whatever. How about the best player in the game.

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havin' played this morning in unlimited servers, this wasn't that much imbalanced.

 

BTW I made 50 kills with my tech quite quickly :3

 

I'm zerking with my tech, I'm zerking with my tech, oh oh oh oh

 


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Yet another personal attack...

This thread is NOT about me, you or anyone else. 

This thread is about high mmr players in low mmr matches.

Rules, got to have them.

Hawken needs to retain new and old players.

The design of the game steps you through levels as you play and get better your matched with other players in your skill range... this is broken now.

Don't believe me... whatever. How about the best player in the game.

https://community.pl...y-people-smurf/

 

 

36, AGAIN you miss the point.  YOU started this with me, not the other way around.  YOU started with this:

 

thirtysix, on 04 Sept 2015 - 8:23 PM, said:snapback.png

Another "get gud"...

Go away, you contribute nothing.

 

Whereas I actually contributed:  how do you think the best player in the game got to be the best player in the game?  By working and studying.  Not by waking up one morning and realizing he was the best and didn't need to do anything. 

 

FWIW, Dave has VERY MUCH studied the mechanics of the game and uses them to the nth degree - a little better than EVERYONE else.  But I think he still studies EVERY match he plays for one more little tidbit.

 

I still learn, too. 

 

You choose not to.  YOU choose to legislate instead of improve.

 

Again, you show your true nature.  You have a loser's mentality.  There's no sugar-coating it.


Edited by Call_Me_Ishmael, 05 September 2015 - 07:13 AM.

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36, AGAIN you miss the point.  YOU started this with me, not the other way around.  YOU started with this:

 

thirtysix, on 04 Sept 2015 - 8:23 PM, said:snapback.png

 

Whereas I actually contributed:  how do you think the best player in the game got to be the best player in the game?  By working and studying.  Not by waking up one morning and realizing he was the best and didn't need to do anything. 

 

FWIW, Dave has VERY MUCH studied the mechanics of the game and uses them to the nth degree - a little better than EVERYONE else.  But I think he still studies EVERY match he plays for one more little tidbit.

 

I still learn, too. 

 

You choose not to.  YOU choose to legislate instead of improve.

 

Again, you show your true nature.  You have a loser's mentality.  There's no sugar-coating it.

 

Damn boy your full of yourself...

This game is in the shape it's in because of this mentality.

Don't bother trying to convince me otherwise.

Oh... in case you didn't get it, there CAN NOT be any legislation in this game, it has owners who set the rules and they sure as hell don't do it by the democratic process.

Rule #1 - make a profit

That's the reality. How it's accomplished, well who knows what Reloaded has in store.


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She is sitting waaaaaaaaaaaay to close to that monitor. I have smaller monitor (24") and it's  2 lengths-of-longer-side-of-A4-format-paper away. I mean its even further but i never get closer than that. IMO

 

PS But yea, i want that monitor too. What model it is? Is it fine, comfortable etc?

 

She doesn't spend much time in front of the monitor. It is on a monitor arm and just over arms length from where I sit.  She just lowered it down and sat at the edge of the chair.

 

It is an LG IPS LED 27EA63, I like the screen size but the refresh rate leaves a lot to be desired.  Great for watching movies and pretty good for playing games.  



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The design of the game steps you through levels as you play and get better your matched with other players in your skill range... this is broken now.

Don't believe me... whatever. How about the best player in the game.

https://community.pl...y-people-smurf/

 

The issue that Dave is describing in that thread isn't a result of the latest MMR range changes. I've had it happen to me well before these changes were implemented. If anything, having less restrictive lockout ranges means high-tier players have a better chance of manually choosing the actual best match for them instead of hoping that matchmaking gets it right (which has proven to be very questionable).


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havain' played this morning in unlimited servers, this wasn't that much imbalanced.

 

BTW I made 50 kills with my tech quite quickly :3

 

I'm zerking with my tech, I'm zerking with my tech, oh oh oh oh

 

 

Tech...OP...Nerf the Tech  :tongue:

 

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The issue that Dave is describing in that thread isn't a result of the latest MMR range changes. I've had it happen to me well before these changes were implemented. If anything, having less restrictive lockout ranges means high-tier players have a better chance of manually choosing the actual best match for them instead of hoping that matchmaking gets it right (which has proven to be very questionable).

 

Was able to chat with Dave, MM put him in a match I was playing... so yeah MM is broken, but MM has been like that for awhile.


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Ignorance, arrogance... really you needed to make this a personal attack?

 

fuzzy bunny OFF AND DIE fuzzy bunny!!!

 

How you like that??

Useless fuzzy bunny...

Don't flatter yourself. I'd never stumble so low as to initiate personal attacks, especially on a public forum. Besides, there would have been no need to do so in the first place, as evidenced by your response.


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Way ahead of you...

 

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evidence of the budding hawken masterrace...

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I like going against the best of any game I play. Helps you in the long run n motivates u to do more. Always room for improvement not failure

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evidence of the budding hawken masterrace...

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Scarry,  though he does have a box of crying tissues next to him.

 

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evidence of the budding hawken masterrace...

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Whatever it is, it's too much.  I've been dropping in matches and pulling 19-22 kills at times after which I apologize and leave.



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Whatever it is, it's too much.  I've been dropping in matches and pulling 19-22 kills at times after which I apologize and leave.

I have a few of those, and I do the same, or offer tips.  But I have also had a LOT more higher-level play lately (maybe it's because people see me in friends list in my main(s)? Not sure the reason, but really have noticed it)


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The newly expanded MMR-range barely allows me into 1950 servers, which are usually the highest ones around.
It's still really rare to see 2350 servers, which were the lowest I was able to get in before. (Even 2100s are rare..)
I'd say the expanded MMR-range is quite nice for me in that regard.
With the old limits I'd get in the 1950-2100 servers anyway, it just took longer.

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