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Smurfing.

 

I just came out of a game that no less than 5 smurfs joined, one of whom quit immediately upon me entering on the opposing team. Three more joined, two of which made it to the end of the game and one of whom thought it was acceptable to go around insulting the opposing team.

 

It is incredibly difficult for me to adhere to the no-callouts policy right now. But you know who you are.

 

If every last one of you were online on your mains, we could actually be playing SSSDM right now. 

 

I know most people don't smurf to stomp but what I just saw was fuzzy bunnyng "pathetically lame."


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ive been seeing a handful of smurfs

 

If every last one of you were online on your mains, we could actually be playing SSSDM right now. 

i tried to do the sssdm but there were only 2 other people in there and armored clown was one of them.



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I'm too fuzzy bunnyng stuffed/drunk right now to play.


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Ironically, this is one of the few times in Hawken's history where the upper echelon of players don't have to smurf in order to play, and yet, there is a lot more than usual. But to be fair, most players who smurf nowadays are mid-tiers who don't have a massive difference from smurf-to-main MMR.

Edited by IareDave, 18 October 2015 - 05:28 PM.

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I hate smurfs, and it is my ultimate pleasure to beat the crap out of them.


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If any of them are like me, they're drunk and burnt out on murderbots for the time being.  Both ailments will likely pass and feel the same way in the doing.


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On a high note, the lack of SSSDM led to a great practice session for TDM, although we did feel the sting of the smurf:main disparity - we rely on matchmaking for practice scrims, and having a smurf in the mix threw things off.  We finally got the smurf to run his main - 500 point difference in MMR. 


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I don't smurf in any game. In hawken, I don't even need to lol, I already get matched with noobs every game. And if I really want to smurf, I can play botTDM for more challenge.

 

But not only smurfing is this lame. Playing Assault is and the like as well. :)


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ive been seeing a handful of smurfs

 

i tried to do the sssdm but there were only 2 other people in there and armored clown was one of them.

 

Clearly not an actual sssdm because me thinks the klown would have been banned from the server right quick. Although I would have much enjoyed the opportunity to play with him (seriously, I only had the chance with him a few times and I want to see more of the narcissist's playstyle)


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I was on a smurf yesterday and the smurf on the other team was verbally bashing me for smurfing, while he had a score that was double mine. Pretty ironic but I must admit I got great amussment from listening to him get so upset. It was like a toddler throwing a fit because you took away his sucker in his left hand, while the right hand was holding a 5 pound bag of candy.


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I was on a smurf yesterday and the smurf on the other team was verbally bashing me for smurfing, while he had a score that was double mine. Pretty ironic but I must admit I got great amussment from listening to him get so upset. It was like a toddler throwing a fit because you took away his sucker in his left hand, while the right hand was holding a 5 pound bag of candy.

 

I understand Valve allows for game bans on steam accounts

 

"In order to ensure the best possible online multiplayer experience, Valve allows developers to implement their own systems that detect and permanently ban any disruptive players, such as those using cheats."

 

http://www.pcgamer.c...rom-developers/

 

https://support.stea...=6899-IOSK-9514

 

However they require reporting directly from the developer.

 

Seeing this implented would do wonders for our amussment (sic).


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I understand Valve allows for game bans on steam accounts

 

"In order to ensure the best possible online multiplayer experience, Valve allows developers to implement their own systems that detect and permanently ban any disruptive players, such as those using cheats."

 

http://www.pcgamer.c...rom-developers/

 

https://support.stea...=6899-IOSK-9514

 

However they require reporting directly from the developer.

 

Seeing this implented would do wonders for our amussment (sic).

 

The hell?



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I understand Valve allows for game bans on steam accounts

 

"In order to ensure the best possible online multiplayer experience, Valve allows developers to implement their own systems that detect and permanently ban any disruptive players, such as those using cheats."

 

http://www.pcgamer.c...rom-developers/

 

https://support.stea...=6899-IOSK-9514

 

However they require reporting directly from the developer.

 

Seeing this implented would do wonders for our amussment (sic).

Like me alot of ppl play Hawken without going launching it over Steam.

So you cannot ban people via Steam but it might affect their ability to purchase MC.

Why would any developer with a F2P game want that?



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Like me alot of ppl play Hawken without going launching it over Steam.

So you cannot ban people via Steam but it might affect their ability to purchase MC.

Why would any developer with a F2P game want that?

I was looking at Craftys statment and couldnt figure out what he was talking about. People actualy launch Hawken through steam? Why?

 

And what relevance does banning people through steam have to playing as a smurf?


Edited by Ennihilation, 19 October 2015 - 06:23 AM.

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I was looking at Craftys statment and couldnt figure out what he was talking about. People actualy launch Hawken through steam? Why?

Why not?

Edited by Amidatelion, 19 October 2015 - 06:24 AM.


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Cheating like in using aimbot etc. or do you consider smurfing cheating?



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In cases like ennhilation/quay jay/iownyouboy where they are smurfing to conceal their id after gaining noteriety for cheating, a valve game ban would be glorious

 

It would also be irrelevant, unless being game banned blocks updates, and even if it does making a new steam account is trivial.

 

I just want servers to insta-kick anyone who's turn speed exceeds a certain threshold over a certain distance. Harder than it sounds I'm sure, but it seems like ti should be possible.


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To do nothing because it isn't enough, is a bad excuse for doing nothing
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Im not sure what all he is refering to but I wont sit here and argue with a Grumpy Old man. :sad:

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People actualy launch Hawken through steam? Why?

 

I usually launch through Steam. I like to harass (Or just talk to) my IRL Steam friends while I play my vidya gaymes (And vice-versa).
Also, using the Steam overlay to view the internets (Youtube) while gaming is slightly easier (lazier) than alt+tabbing.

I was not aware that launching through Steam was a weird thing to do...


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Im not sure what all he is refering to but I wont sit here and argue with a Grumpy Old man. :sad:

You know exactly what he's talking about.


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I was not aware that launching through Steam was a weird thing to do...


It's not. The user in question probably still believes the nonsense about Steam being malware/spyware/a drain on resources that hasn't been true either ever or in almost a decade at this point.

That, or Craft's allegations.

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To do nothing because it isn't enough, is a bad excuse for doing nothing

 

To be clear, I'm not saying steam game bans shouldn't be done, I'm questioning whether they will actually do anything (or anything significant).


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I was on a smurf yesterday and the smurf on the other team was verbally bashing me for smurfing, while he had a score that was double mine. Pretty ironic but I must admit I got great amussment from listening to him get so upset. It was like a toddler throwing a fit because you took away his sucker in his left hand, while the right hand was holding a 5 pound bag of candy.

 

The Lord of the Scrubs has investigated these allegations and others and found you wanting.

 

You weren't on a smurf. You were on another smurf. This isn't your main.

 

Those aren't the stats of a main, or someone who has been "on and off of this game since the beginning."

 

Those are the stats of a moderately skilled player, carefully preserving their precious MMR, on an account made in the past several months.

  1. You don't have a CRT. You haven't been on this account "on and off this game since the beginning."
  2. A 3.0-5.0 K/D ratio is not indicative of someone who has not invested significant time into this game, even after a long period away. Grimfate4u, the most skilled player with the fastest ascent I've seen recently has a 1.7 KD on the mech they'd been playing since picking it up.

Being on-and-off on this game is going to result in degradation of skill, irregardless of your total time spent playing. That, combined with the fact that this is clearly a post-Reloaded account, clearly indicates that this account was made within the past several months and with the capaility to achieve a max of a 5.0 K/D. The evidence is against you.

 

Which means you're a smurf of someone else or Crafty is right. And don't even get me started on your ridiculous persona playing on the forums. "Testosterone flying around," indeed. Cut the fuzzy bunny and don't let me see you harassing my scrubs.


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I always get on a bit late due to NA, but am usually in game about 8:15-8:30 cst. Been wondering what happened to SSSDM these past few weeks. Mystery not necessarily solved, but at least has information added to it. I don't smurf personally... got enough trouble raising my mmr as it is  :teehee:


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The Lord of the Scrubs has investigated these allegations and others and found you wanting.

 

You weren't on a smurf. You were on another smurf. This isn't your main.

 

Those aren't the stats of a main, or someone who has been "on and off of this game since the beginning."

 

Those are the stats of a moderately skilled player, carefully preserving their precious MMR, on an account made in the past several months.

  1. You don't have a CRT. You haven't been on this account "on and off this game since the beginning."
  2. A 3.0-5.0 K/D ratio is not indicative of someone who has not invested significant time into this game, even after a long period away. Grimfate4u, the most skilled player with the fastest ascent I've seen recently has a 1.7 KD on the mech they'd been playing since picking it up.

Being on-and-off on this game is going to result in degradation of skill, irregardless of your total time spent playing. That, combined with the fact that this is clearly a post-Reloaded account, clearly indicates that this account was made within the past several months and with the capaility to achieve a max of a 5.0 K/D. The evidence is against you.

 

Which means you're a smurf of someone else or Crafty is right. And don't even get me started on your ridiculous persona playing on the forums. "Testosterone flying around," indeed. Cut the fuzzy bunny and don't let me see you harassing my scrubs.

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Well-investigated, and thorough. May your likes for this post be many.

 

That was the most damning bit of punctuation I have ever seen. Well done.


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It's pretty ironic that mmr, the number to make matches even, is what screws it all up.  Dividing teams up by a different method like just k/d ratio might work better at least for now.

 

It's really the lower level servers that need better protection imo for new player retention. It should be easy to tell who is dominating and somehow push them up faster and lock them out so lower level players can have more fun. If there is to be some type of re-launch or actual release of the game this really needs to be addressed. Matches like 1500-2800 should never happen and it still does

 

 

I really  do understand the frustration but personally other than the mmr beating what does it matter if you fight a top tier or their smurf? Its the unmatched teams created that really suck. Thats the problem for me . I  like good match ups most of all.


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The Lord of the Scrubs has investigated these allegations and others and found you wanting.

 

You weren't on a smurf. You were on another smurf. This isn't your main.

 

Those aren't the stats of a main, or someone who has been "on and off of this game since the beginning."

 

Those are the stats of a moderately skilled player, carefully preserving their precious MMR, on an account made in the past several months.

  1. You don't have a CRT. You haven't been on this account "on and off this game since the beginning."
  2. A 3.0-5.0 K/D ratio is not indicative of someone who has not invested significant time into this game, even after a long period away. Grimfate4u, the most skilled player with the fastest ascent I've seen recently has a 1.7 KD on the mech they'd been playing since picking it up.

Being on-and-off on this game is going to result in degradation of skill, irregardless of your total time spent playing. That, combined with the fact that this is clearly a post-Reloaded account, clearly indicates that this account was made within the past several months and with the capaility to achieve a max of a 5.0 K/D. The evidence is against you.

 

Which means you're a smurf of someone else or Crafty is right. And don't even get me started on your ridiculous persona playing on the forums. "Testosterone flying around," indeed. Cut the fuzzy bunny and don't let me see you harassing my scrubs.

 

You seem to know a bit too much, prove now that you're not her. Or that she's not Crafty. Oooh damn, mah head hurtz, so many smurfes. Who's real anymore?



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You seem to know a bit too much, prove now that you're not her. Or that she's not Crafty. Oooh damn, mah head hurtz, so many smurfes. Who's real anymore?

 

You are the only player on earth who is not a Crafty smurf.

 

Join us.

 

Don't be afraid.


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playing death note irl

if you ever watch them in game, they will spend literal hours firing into the ground, spawn barrier, etc. in an effort to intentionally decrease their accuracy stat. they were originally sitting upwards of 65-70%, until they decided that they would settle for only having higher sustain accuracies than xacius.


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The thing about hackers is that you can use all the aimbots you want but you'll still suck. Aimbots don't position or maneuver your mech for you, and it's stupid easy to outplay a hacker even if they have superior accuracy because they're likely terrible at positioning and movement.



You're using aimbots because you suck and want artificial skill but.. you still suck :3
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What's the big fuzzy bunnyng deal? Lots of amazing people have committed suicide, and they turned out alright.

 


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You are the only player on earth who is not a Crafty smurf.

Join us.

Don't be afraid.


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YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED

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