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Fortunately it will be free to play on console as well (or at least that was my understanding) so you can try it indefinitely before deciding to buy anything.

Well that is encouraging.  Thanks.



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It's hard to read all that stupidity here.

 

Do you guys want a chance for hawken on pc plattform to come back on track with the money and support from console ports, or should it die right away? Think for yourself.

 

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Not entirely sure what this "chance" is. PC Hawken's chance came via the introduction to Steam which gave Hawken a boost in player base for a time before it dropped to what it is now. Hawken's chance will pretty much lie in the console versions where the player base is fresh and potentially numerous. We will see the same ported updates but if it's segregated exactly how is that going to help the PC version when what the PC version needs is people?

 

I'm more curious about Josh's interviews from way back when. I'd have to look later but I wonder if his hope giving speeches was before or after they decided to run on the console train for over a year.



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Not entirely sure what this "chance" is. PC Hawken's chance came via the introduction to Steam which gave Hawken a boost in player base for a time before it dropped to what it is now. Hawken's chance will pretty much lie in the console versions where the player base is fresh and potentially numerous. We will see the same ported updates but if it's segregated exactly how is that going to help the PC version when what the PC version needs is people?
 
I'm more curious about Josh's interviews from way back when. I'd have to look later but I wonder if his hope giving speeches was before or after they decided to run on the console train for over a year.


Wait so you want Reloaded to update PC Hawken with "more players" not patches or updates.... how does that work?

The "chance" is in Reloaded's release at the game to fix those player retention issues.Hawken coming to consoles has no impact on the game other than exposing it to larger audience. The current game is still broken and releasing it as is to the consoles will no lead to success. The game needs updates but more importantly fundamental changes to increase player retention. This is not a PC exclusive issue its going to apply to all platforms Hawken exists on and needs to be addressed so whats good for the console version is good for the PC version and vise versa.

Also hype is hype, lots of console owners own gaming PCs and some of those gamers that hear of the console version of Hawken that own gaming PCs will likely rather play on the PC then the console.
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Wait so you want Reloaded to update PC Hawken with "more players" not patches or updates.... how does that work?

The "chance" is in Reloaded's release at the game to fix those player retention issues.Hawken coming to consoles has no impact on the game other than exposing it to larger audience. The current game is still broken and releasing it as is to the consoles will no lead to success. The game needs updates but more importantly fundamental changes to increase player retention. This is not a PC exclusive issue its going to apply to all platforms Hawken exists on and needs to be addressed so whats good for the console version is good for the PC version and vise versa.

Also hype is hype, lots of console owners own gaming PCs and some of those gamers that hear of the console version of Hawken that own gaming PCs will likely rather play on the PC then the console.

 

 

Reloaded is more of an opportunity company.. They're not in this to make revolution in gaming. They're good at seeing where to make fast buck. Thats why it's a bit sad. There will be no grand Hawken 2 revival.  We will get double seeker scout and that's that :D That being said i'd still would like to try that double seeker.



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Wait so you want Reloaded to update PC Hawken with "more players" not patches or updates.... how does that work?

 

I don't want anything really, there is very little Reloaded can to for the PC version at this point. Your not guarenteed that the updates arn't targeted to only the console audience, balance issues are different between console and PC games even with the same game. The game is new to console versions, they have a better chance at retaining people then the PC version does because it has access to an untapped market. Even if console players deside to try the PC version, which I doubt will be as many as PC needs, it still contends with the same problem of aged veteran players kicking the living **** out of the new blood. Why would they play the PC version when they have access to a brand new growing community?

 

But yes, if it's a straight port with an updated UI it won't go that far. It'll be the last nail in the coffin made by a company that didn't know how to market their own game and wasted resources and hammered in by a company that bought the game trying to make a quick buck as like most F2P game companies do, short term profits over long term gain.

 

Personally since I've been here, hoping things improve ( I will be trying the console version to make use of my PS4, doubt my account/mechs/credits will cross over), I hope i'm wrong. I'm not willing to be the abused puppy, getting kicked in the head hoping for love though. I've played enough F2P games to know better.



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It appears the game will be launching in it's current state on console. The trailer is a mash up of current gameplay and old trailers. What a joke. Hawken is Reloaded's quick cash grab lol.


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FWIW, MS still promises Kybd and Mouse Support for XBox family consoles.

 

I'll admit, I'll buy an XBox Scorpio if I have to.



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FWIW, MS still promises Kybd and Mouse Support for XBox family consoles.

 

I'll admit, I'll buy an XBox Scorpio if I have to.

 

Just play Hawken in Games for Windows 10, the Windows 10 Store, or whatever MS is calling it these days. Xbox games will be coming to pc according to the MS press conference. 


Edited by Superkamikazee, 14 June 2016 - 12:01 PM.

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We are one step closer to new content on PC.  Hooray. 


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It appears the game will be launching in it's current state on console. The trailer is a mash up of current gameplay and old trailers. What a joke. Hawken is Reloaded's quick cash grab lol.

 

Considering how much work they had to put in to get this thing on consoles I don't think "quick cash grab" is an apt description. 

 

Though if it ends up being a windows store exclusive I will most likely drop it promptly and permanently.


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Weren't there half completed mech platforms that a community member datamined a while back? Wouldn't it seem likely that upon acquiring these assets, reloaded would finish them? This looks to me like what the Zerk G2 was supposed to be, but without just a AR copy with the name XT on it to go with a copy of the Seeker with XT on it. Some of these mechs might've been pretty fleshed out, like the siege mech might've been before they delayed it in favor of the incinerator. I honest to god am baffled at how we're suddenly assuming this mech in particular was cooked up in the lab by reloaded without any input from anyone whatsoever. There were also notes on the files holding the weapon models and stats right? That's how we figured out and identified the lightning cannon a while back. I do agree, this is a pretty bad mech to showcase and that phrase along with it really should have been changed.



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We are one step closer to new content on PC.  Hooray. 


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It appears the game will be launching in it's current state on console. The trailer is a mash up of current gameplay and old trailers. What a joke. Hawken is Reloaded's quick cash grab lol.

 

I love how they give the impression that there is so much customization in the ways the mechs look, as if THAT is free too.  Next we'll find out that the "30 mechs" are really 10 mechs, with three different primary weapons available for each :)  (And Yes I am very bitter at this point.  Thanks for noticing.)


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I love how they give the impression that there is so much customization in the ways the mechs look, as if THAT is free too.  Next we'll find out that the "30 mechs" are really 10 mechs, with three different primary weapons available for each :)  (And Yes I am very bitter at this point.  Thanks for noticing.)

 

Pretty sure no one who grew up with F2P is missing the glowing orange boxes with numbers.


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Psyched for the new stuff!

 

Anyone gunna be at the E3 Twitch party tonight? 


Edited by (THC) Badtings, 14 June 2016 - 01:29 PM.

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Considering how much work they had to put in to get this thing on consoles I don't think "quick cash grab" is an apt description. 

 

 

 

 

It's nice that the game is going multiplat, but launching in any shape resembling the current game, please don't. 


Edited by Superkamikazee, 14 June 2016 - 04:06 PM.

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It's nice that the game is going multiplat, but launching in any shape resembling the current game, please don't. 

 

If i read Tiggs' post correctly, they are launching a DX11 build on the consoles and then on the PC.  So, there should be some improvements at least graphically/performance wise right?

 

It sucks that we'll be waiting a little longer for the PC update, but it is exciting that we'll see DX11 version with 12 "new" mechs at some point. 


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No, I am not going to LIE about my experience.  Smurf accounts, hacks and cheats, unbalanced mechs and abilities, disgusting naming conventions that are not monitored, and especially the lack of regular feedback or even a big thank you from the DEVS about ANYTHING (not just stuff contained in non-disclosure agreements).  The forums of dozens of other games out there have employees responding to threads on all almost daily basis, and our last update was, what, April? Why should I praise that?  I've given this game over $50 of our money.  So my advice to console users is "try before you buy".  Try the game RIGHT NOW on the PC and then tell us and Reloaded what you think.  I cannot in good conscience advise someone I care about to spend any money on this game until these issues are dealt with and regular, constant feedback with the most patient and loyal customer base on the planet begins.

 

And the naming convention on consoles is monitored and regulated by Sony and MS directly.  So, that will have no place in a discussion about Hawken on console.

 

We know nothing about how they will deal with smurf accounts.  They may choose to disable the family share accounts on PSN and Live so that anyone who really wants to smurf would have a hard time doing so.  Many games have already done that to great success.

 

And I'm not sure what you mean by "unbalanced mechs".  There are concerns about how the tech and heavies combine, and a lot of people don't feel the Rocketeer is even remotely competitive (while others think it's OP, lol)... but I have never found any convincing evidence or debate that made me feel there are any mechs, weapons or abilities in Hawken which are ruining balance.  We've got a problem with orblording.  But that might already have been dealt with, we don't know.

 

Also, in most cases, the cheating/hacking you are seeing in the PC version will never happen on the console version.  So, that really isn't something to warn console players about either.


To be serious for a moment this is just a joke

 


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And I'm not sure what you mean by "unbalanced mechs".  There are concerns about how the tech and heavies combine, and a lot of people don't feel the Rocketeer is even remotely competitive (while others think it's OP, lol)... but I have never found any convincing evidence or debate that made me feel there are any mechs, weapons or abilities in Hawken which are ruining balance.  

The biggest suspects I can think of are the Incin and Tech. Also, the T-32 could use a bit of a buff to its dps. 


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