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The PC gaming master race need not concern itself with the activities of the console gaming peasants- let them scratch around in the dirt in peace.

 

/sarcasm

 

But yeah, spoilers- we need the console players to generate some cash for Reloaded before they get fed up with the lack of updates and content, the exploiters ( let's see how many map bugs and design issues those play-testers and bug reporters found, eh? ), and the wonky match making and jacked up mechs. We don't want to scare them away before they get started spending cash on those 30 mechs that all 'need' customising.

 

Then, if enough of them stick around and continue buying cosmetics, it might be enough ( revenue ) for the PC version to get the same 'improvements' too. Yay. :-/


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I don't want the console (improvements) for the PC...I want the PC to stay PC and give it the updates, content and patches it deserves....

 

I am so sad.... :sad:


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I'd like to be able to read the console forum to have Xboner feedback on new hawken. I don't care not being able to post there, but no feedback from official forum is really frustrating.

Do RLD really want us to have these feedback from other uncontrolled sources (Reddit / streamers / #IRC) ?

 

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Console versions will always be different from the PC versions and it's easier to keep them separate and gather feedback for each individually. PC will be getting updated, after the consoles are out the door and stable. It will take time. 

 

nother words, after we Royally fuzzy bunny up the console versions, we will have a backup version of the original....

 

and most likely PC players will keep this version for years to come


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They were looking into cross platform play with pc right? Looks like that got cancelled quickly. With the consoles always being different there's no hope of it happening. Not upset about it though pc vs console is always a bad thing. I enjoy my 5 year plus old computer parts console.

I do however feel like this company is up to a quick cash grab and not a long term goal. Sure pc and console versions are different right now but pc will still be updated right? No reason to keep them completely segregated to the point of no access. When different sub forums kept them separated enough for separate feedback.

Sure ill pick this game up on ps4 but as for supporting it. Probably not unless RLD turns around and picks a more open and trusting direction for their fans.

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I understand why the devs wanted to keep the forums apart.  There have been many times when the community on the PC side has been far from helpful.  Alot of the comments on these threads recently, prove my point.  I for one hope all the updates and new mechs from the console release, show up here on the PC.  I am looking forward to it!


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I'm going to create a "community" account for xbox/pc/ps so people who don't necessarily want to create several accounts can check those. Let's see how that will work out.

(Later when I get a stable internet connection again)


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Let me spell it out for you.

The locked thread wasn't about what you're going to do or have done. It was about what SHOULD be done, and the opinion of the community regarding that. This original thread was about the injustice of the current situation. We all know that what should be done and what you actually do are never the same. Why would you think that those topics are similar?

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Console versions will always be different from the PC versions and it's easier to keep them separate and gather feedback for each individually. PC will be getting updated, after the consoles are out the door and stable. It will take time. 

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I'm going to create a "community" account for xbox/pc/ps so people who don't necessarily want to create several accounts can check those. Let's see how that will work out.

(Later when I get a stable internet connection again)

 

Creating a "community" account or shared account is against the rules for Hawken, Xbox and PS

 

Let me spell it out for you.

The locked thread wasn't about what you're going to do or have done. It was about what SHOULD be done, and the opinion of the community regarding that. This original thread was about the injustice of the current situation. We all know that what should be done and what you actually do are never the same. Why would you think that those topics are similar?

 

It's still on the same topic as this one. We appreciate your feedback on what you feel should be done, however we have decided to keep the forums separate since they're different systems. 


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so what if you need 2 different accounts for the forums, if you need 2 different accounts just to play on the 2 different versions of the game

this isnt overwatch and they arent blizzard, so dont expect battle.net to come riding in here on a horse to save the day so that we can all QQ in the same shitty hole together


Edited by ArchMech, 07 July 2016 - 09:18 AM.

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Console versions will always be different from the PC versions and it's easier to keep them separate and gather feedback for each individually.

 

Can you explain why these areas need to be kept separate?

  • Clan Hall
  • Art and Media
  • Streaming and Videos
  • Help and Guides
  • Community Events
  • Off Topic

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Can you explain why these areas need to be kept separate?

  • Clan Hall
  • Art and Media
  • Streaming and Videos
  • Help and Guides
  • Community Events
  • Off Topic
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Edited by ArchMech, 07 July 2016 - 09:22 AM.

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Can you explain why these areas need to be kept separate?

  • Clan Hall
  • Art and Media
  • Streaming and Videos
  • Help and Guides
  • Community Events
  • Off Topic

 

 

Because they'll be different for consoles and we'd like them separate. I'll change off-topic I didn't know that was separate. 


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Forum segregation is a bad idea, UNLESS the goal is to 'censor' players.

 

Any other game would WANT the player base to seem LARGER. 


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Because they'll be different for consoles and we'd like them separate. I'll change off-topic I didn't know that was separate. 

 

I sincerely appreciate the response.

 

I think there's strong arguments for changing the below sub-forums to be cross-platform accessible, or at least keep XB1 and PC areas in these subforums but allow any login to access them. I've seen compelling arguments around the forums to allow these areas to be cross-platform accessible, and if you're open to reading those arguments again I think the community would be happy to oblige.

  • Clan Hall
  • Art and Media 
  • Streaming and Videos
  • Help and Guides

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while strong valid arguments there are

id only recommend making community events visible to all and maintain everything else as is

for strong valid retorts i have(mmmhm salty):

"if u wanna make xbone/ps4 guides, great if you own an xbone/ps4, go ahead no1s telling you no"

"streaming and videos, great it looks like ass cuz it came off your console"

"art and media *shrug* deviant art anybody?"

clan hall, this came to mind: "great you wanna make a cross platform clan? cool, theres no integration or support for that so you are entirely on your own good luck with that"

 

meanwhile on the other hand, theres no reason for there not to be in-tandem scheduling of community events cross platform

both scheduling on the same timetable for a BIG turnout

or scheduling on different timetables to prevent conflict


Edited by ArchMech, 07 July 2016 - 09:53 AM.

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I sincerely appreciate the response.

 

I think there's strong arguments for changing the below sub-forums to be cross-platform accessible, or at least keep XB1 and PC areas in these subforums but allow any login to access them. I've seen compelling arguments around the forums to allow these areas to be cross-platform accessible, and if you're open to reading those arguments again I think the community would be happy to oblige.

  • Clan Hall
  • Art and Media 
  • Streaming and Videos
  • Help and Guides

 

 

Having so many forums is MORE work AND it splinters the community.

 

These things are not logical UNLESS the goal is to censor the PC side of things. 


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Having so many forums is MORE work AND it splinters the community.

 

These things are not logical UNLESS the goal is to censor the PC side of things. 

i contend if they wanted you censored, you'd be on facebook by now griping about how you got censored


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i contend if they wanted you censored, you'd be on facebook by now griping about how you got censored

 

... What?

 

Nevermind, this conversation won't go anywhere productive


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i contend if they wanted you censored, you'd be on facebook by now griping about how you got censored

I too LOVE hawken (as I'm sure you do).

 

I'm simply pointing a light on the truth.

 

There is NO practical reason to segregate the forums.

 

I could understand distinct TECHNICAL forums, however 'General', 'Art', etc.. no practical reason OTHER than mitigating comments from the PC base.

 

Again, i can't MAKE you understand. I'm simply pointing out the logic. 


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Something interesting I just ran into. Was doing a google search for ps4 Hawken release date time. The search lead me to the ps4 sub section only I couldn't read it. All because I was not logged in with a ps4 account. So until ps4 Hawke launches there's no way to check those forums. Even then any ps4 player and I imagine xbox will only see "Sorry we couldn't find what your looking for." on every google link to these sub forums unless they have already found these forums and are logged in. Giving new players the feeling the forums don't exist for their console.

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Think it's kinda silly to keep Art/Media and Streaming/Videos segregated - especially when the twitch page is platform agnostic.  And do we really have so much Hawken art that we require separate subforums?  Come off it.

 

As for the rest, don't really care tbh. 


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categories are cheap. Make more of them. Let people bookmark their favourite. Streaming, xbox, ps4, art, media... watever.

Categories rock.

 

nothing worse than wanting to see all the streaming vids and having to wade through tonnes of sh!tty art.



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Can you explain why these areas need to be kept separate?

  • Clan Hall
  • Art and Media
  • Streaming and Videos
  • Help and Guides
  • Community Events
  • Off Topic

 

 

 

Because they'll be different for consoles and we'd like them separate. I'll change off-topic I didn't know that was separate. 

 
Agreed with "clan hall" and "community events".
Disagree on :
- streaming and video -> youtube / twitch don't make any difference, separating them in the official forum is meaningless
- help and guide -> everything concerning hawken basics shall be the same, so except gamepad aspect this is pointless too. Unless you make different balance patches for the different platforms, but AFAIK it's not your plan.
- Art and media... meh ! I can't even see fanart from other subsections ? seriously ?
 
 
Then as the other thread have been locked, I quote myself :
 

 

one "technical support" subsection for each platform
one "clan" subsection for each platform
the rest of the forum should be shared.
Everything open to read.
 
My experience from UBIsoft forum who do it that way, is that it's clear, simple, quite open, and the mod team seems to be able to manage the trolling.
 
The only point is that actual PC version is different from console version, so there could be a "hawken beta general discussion" subsection.

 

 

 

What really makes me upset is not to be able to read Xboners reviews and feedback.

 

 

 

If the RLD team point is that they consider old Hawken PC players as toxic and don't want them to be mixed with the fresh new Xboners /PS4 players, I don't think it's a good idea because :

- you make old players upset

- twitch chatroom

- reddit

- when you check the forum without logging (with you smartphone, computer, etc) you only have access to the PC subsections.


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I dunno, separate forums make sense.  Yall are a big bunch of whiny bitches.  Until you calm the fuzzy bunny down and act like grown-ups you should stay in time-out.


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categories are cheap. Make more of them. Let people bookmark their favourite. Streaming, xbox, ps4, art, media... watever.

Categories rock.

 

nothing worse than wanting to see all the streaming vids and having to wade through tonnes of sh!tty art.

 

No, no.  We're talking about keeping the PC Art/Media and Streaming/Video subforums segregated from the equivalent console subforums.  And explaining why that's silly.






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