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Guys,...I can't believe I never thought of it before, but imagine if the mechs we all know and love were structurally and functionally based on the creatures of Illal. Each mech could have a cool creature variant, with the difference mainly being play-style. You wouldn't strafe to death on the creatures, but would rather hop or something similar; and you wouldn't be able to hover but just...jump higher..? Well, I didn't think too much into it, but that third option the survey mentioned got me going.

 

Guys, we need this. A mech versus monster BRAWL. And this would give more reason to add a better Survival Mode.

 

And yes, I considered the fact that this game advertises with mechs as its primary appeal, but, the way I see it, we need some major color in this monotone era to get this game noticed.


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I love that animal that shoves a green shaft into other animals to heal them


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I love that animal that shoves a green shaft into other animals to heal them

 

A tech? O____O


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A tech? O____O

no a horny ogre


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Guys,...I can't believe I never thought of it before, but imagine if the mechs we all know and love were structurally and functionally based on the creatures of Illal. Each mech could have a cool creature variant, with the difference mainly being play-style. You wouldn't strafe to death on the creatures, but would rather hop or something similar; and you wouldn't be able to hover but just...jump higher..? Well, I didn't think too much into it, but that third option the survey mentioned got me going.

 

Guys, we need this. A mech versus monster BRAWL. And this would give more reason to add a better Survival Mode.

 

And yes, I considered the fact that this game advertises with mechs as its primary appeal, but, the way I see it, we need some major color in this monotone era to get this game noticed.

 

You mean something like.... this ?

 

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You mean something like.... this ?

 

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or maybe that !

 


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Guys,...I can't believe I never thought of it before, but imagine if the mechs we all know and love were structurally and functionally based on the creatures of Illal. Each mech could have a cool creature variant, with the difference mainly being play-style. You wouldn't strafe to death on the creatures, but would rather hop or something similar; and you wouldn't be able to hover but just...jump higher..? Well, I didn't think too much into it, but that third option the survey mentioned got me going.

 

Guys, we need this. A mech versus monster BRAWL. And this would give more reason to add a better Survival Mode.

 

And yes, I considered the fact that this game advertises with mechs as its primary appeal, but, the way I see it, we need some major color in this monotone era to get this game noticed.

 

I think ADH/meteor stated a long time ago that pedestrians and bystanders were not included in Hawken to avoid a MA rating.  Something along the lines of keeping Hawken available to as many people in as many markets as possible.  If Reloaded start adding in creatures, the new guys are going to either risk a MA rating with gibs and blood or you're going to have kid-friendly no-blood-and-gore monsters.



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I think ADH/meteor stated a long time ago that pedestrians and bystanders were not included in Hawken to avoid a MA rating.  Something along the lines of keeping Hawken available to as many people in as many markets as possible.  If Reloaded start adding in creatures, the new guys are going to either risk a MA rating with gibs and blood or you're going to have kid-friendly no-blood-and-gore monsters.

 

Oh, right, that's a good point. I didn't think of that. Hm, darn, i wonder if there's a way around the blood and guts without being too kid-friendly.


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i love that one animal that literally explodes once it sucks enough heat out of its comrades.

 

best animal


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Well....I would like to have creatures....But not playable.  Would be awesome if creatures were AI driven and just randomly appeared in some matches and attacked both teams. That would add so much atmosphere....Ohhh nothing can be better than shooting someone who were swarmed by wildlife hahahaha.

 

So you kinda have to fight not only enemy mechs, but also these creatures..."Last eco" is the best map for this. Just slap some huge hives on these trees.


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Well....I would like to have creatures....But not playable.  Would be awesome if creatures were AI driven and just randomly appeared in some matches and attacked both teams. That would add so much atmosphere....Ohhh nothing can be better than shooting someone who were swarmed by wildlife hahahaha.

 

So you kinda have to fight not only enemy mechs, but also these creatures..."Last eco" is the best map for this. Just slap some huge hives on these trees.

 

Actually that would be very interesting. It would make the environments feel much more alive and add another level of difficulty for more advanced players. Heh, maybe having an item you can throw called 'bait' would be interesting as well. You could throw it to get out of a mess or throw it at someone and they'd draw aggro very quickly. It could also give that next level of uncertainty to diversify each match. I like this idea a lot.

 

Edit: Actually maybe there could also be a purpose to killing creatures as well. Maybe a type of creature could have a fire bladder like a dragon and killing it would allow you to collect organic explosives, or maybe there could be others which allow you to gain boosts like persisting fuel for a short duration, etc.


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Like Titanfall has those gigantic freaking pteradactyls that come out of nowhere. #CosmeticMonstersplz


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Put the monsters back in the closet, under the bed, and what not. Nice points ATX22. Wise you are!


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I would love to see animal designed mechs in this game based on peoples concept art but the community is stubborn here. They want more mechs like this..."hawken design" mech. Makes me want to puke...disgusting.

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You guys/girls want more of this?^ Really!?!!?!

I personally like slick and stylish mechs. Lets just hope the devs like rolling in style also. v_u_l_t_u_r_e_by_nahnahnivek-d8jtcge.jpg


Edited by Onstrava, 10 September 2015 - 01:58 AM.

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I would love to see animal designed mechs in this game based on peoples concept art but the community is stubborn here. They want more mechs like this..."hawken design" mech. Makes me want to puke...disgusting.

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You guys/girls want more of this?^ Really!?!!?!

I personally like slick and stylish mechs. Lets just hope the devs like rolling in style also. v_u_l_t_u_r_e_by_nahnahnivek-d8jtcge.jpg

Which is more likely to be able to stand on it`s own legs and not fall over like some crippled old lady though?


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I would love to see animal designed mechs in this game based on peoples concept art but the community is stubborn here. They want more mechs like this..."hawken design" mech. Makes me want to puke...disgusting.

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You guys/girls want more of this?^ Really!?!!?!

I personally like slick and stylish mechs. Lets just hope the devs like rolling in style also. v_u_l_t_u_r_e_by_nahnahnivek-d8jtcge.jpg

Sarcasm?


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Which is more likely to be able to stand on it`s own legs and not fall over like some crippled old lady though?

It's a mech.............I'm sure it can manage the hardest thing in the world.....standing. :rolleyes: This isn't now days robots here, don't think too hard about it.


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I know away to get around the MA rating. Add a dedicated gamemode where here are animals. Then, add effects for weapons that make them look like they shoot oversized tranquilizer darts, and for secondaries, electrical explosion-thingamajigs. There!



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Which is more likely to be able to stand on it`s own legs and not fall over like some crippled old lady though?

 

Aren't both equally impractical?  I think the original team justified the top-heavy mech design with the, made-up name eludes me for the moment, but the floating rocks on some of the maps.  Rocks that it'd be nice if they were dynamic instead of static and would move about using the physics engine when you walk by, detonate munitions, and so on around them.

 

I'd rather the dev team focus on fleshing out some Hawken-virus-derived mechs and game modes.  Like having a bot-destruction game mode where computer controlled bots drop from battle cruisers flying overhead that spawn new enemies endlessly until shot down (while making the low bass room shaking HUUUURRRRNNNNNNNN sound) while tossing in EU gathering as a side-objective to pester the computer controlled mechs with EU powered/shielded sentries.  They could even throw in objective to protect a structure/unit, cap a certain point and defend for a set time, whatever.. it's not like Reloaded are going to throw Jar Jar into Hawken to shoot.

Creatures?  I'd rather have them in the backdrop or as a random hazard.


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more mechs like this..."hawken design"

 

but, Is that the purpose of Hawken design, isn't it?

hawken have a unique mech design, which no one other game have, i actually don't see a reason make a mech which will be look different from the others. also, his bodypart should be easily combined with other mechs, it is important. from global point of view, you can't made different mech, because it cause a problem if you try combined they beetwen each other.

yep, hawken mech more look like "walking tank", but it is the best walking tanks which i see :D
it is also cause a big a problems with bones, cuz all mech in hawken have the same construction, it can't be changed, so, even if you want, you can't change a "core design". it is not a question about "want or don't want", it is just impossible because alot of reason.

also, you tell about "animal designed mech"
it is not creature-design for mechs? :D or you just forget about this? ;D
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Kompotka 3000. 2D ha?ken game: https://community.pl...ve/?hl=kompotka

Interceptor, B-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...itdefence-mech/

Challenger, C-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...ccepted-thread/

G2-Brawler, C-class mech concept: https://community.pl...pacaka-is-here/

Kinetik, B-class mech concept: https://community.pl...ass-shotgunner/

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YES! Make it sleeek.. forget about the bird. This please!!

 

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but, Is that the purpose of Hawken design, isn't it?

hawken have a unique mech design, which no one other game have, i actually don't see a reason make a mech which will be look different from the others. also, his bodypart should be easily combined with other mechs, it is important. from global point of view, you can't made different mech, because it cause a problem if you try combined they beetwen each other.

yep, hawken mech more look like "walking tank", but it is the best walking tanks which i see :D
it is also cause a big a problems with bones, cuz all mech in hawken have the same construction, it can't be changed, so, even if you want, you can't change a "core design". it is not a question about "want or don't want", it is just impossible because alot of reason.

also, you tell about "animal designed mech"
it is not creature-design for mechs? :D or you just forget about this? ;D
crab-scout, monkey-vanguard (or what is dis? :?), monkey-Sharp, tiger/shark-assault, shark-gren, elephant-infil, dragon-pred, cat-brawler...


 

 

The raider looks like a walking tank, like an Abrams with legs missing the main cannon, the rest kind of look like greeble infested ED-209s to me.

 

Isn't the Hawken style essentially centered around design style of kitbashing?  Leaving the core design being: make a overall underlying chicken-mech design, glue a gazillion greebles on it, PROFIT!  Don't get me wrong, I think it's a visually appealing design, looks as impractical and impossible as it can be, but it looks cool.  I just rather not have something that looks like the walking salt shaker posted in this thread, or another walking TV.  This is Hawken, not dead leaves.

 



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The raider looks like a walking tank

 

actually, when i say "walking tank" i don't mean... real tanks. it is just sound bad, because you not hear my voice intonation :D
probably close phrase on english will be a "metal walker" or maybe "war-machine" or something similar.

 

Isn't the Hawken style essentially centered around design style of kitbashing?

 

yep. even i use similar drawing style to make my mechs (but with less professionalism). it is very easy to do.
like you say, it is not bad.

to be honest, onstrava not first who say "hawken mech is bad". for example, i think that Civ-chassis (X-man) - it is a better mech in game. but many player don't think so. they think it is ugly. my friends which are trying play in hawken, all say: "that these mechs is look ugly". it is fact. =/
i think anime mechs is ugly. i probably like only votoms. but, many people think in difference way.


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Kompotka 3000. 2D ha?ken game: https://community.pl...ve/?hl=kompotka

Interceptor, B-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...itdefence-mech/

Challenger, C-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...ccepted-thread/

G2-Brawler, C-class mech concept: https://community.pl...pacaka-is-here/

Kinetik, B-class mech concept: https://community.pl...ass-shotgunner/

Melter, A-class mech concept: https://community.pl...-class-support/


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I wanna fight against this :-)

 

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actually, when i say "walking tank" i don't mean... real tanks. it is just sound bad, because you not hear my voice intonation :D
probably close phrase on english will be a "metal walker" or maybe "war-machine" or something similar.

 

yep. even i use similar drawing style to make my mechs (but with less professionalism). it is very easy to do.
like you say, it is not bad.

to be honest, onstrava not first who say "hawken mech is bad". for example, i think that Civ-chassis (X-man) - it is a better mech in game. but many player don't think so. they think it is ugly. my friends which are trying play in hawken, all say: "that these mechs is look ugly". it is fact. =/
i think anime mechs is ugly. i probably like only votoms. but, many people think in difference way.

 

I know you weren't being literal.  Though, for me, Hawken mechs look like someone built a mech, sent it through a trash compactor, and then stuck some legs on it.  There are a few exceptions in there, but to me, they don't look like walking mechanized death machines.  And while this is very much just my opinion; I just don't see anything special about the mech design in Hawken to give me a reason to really care what they look like, again with a few exceptions.  But, with the ability to share mech chassis parts between any mech of the same class, any uniqueness a given mech design had just went out the window as a scout can look like a berserker, infiltrator, reaper, technician, or some combination there of which brings me back to the sent through a trash compactor look.  If you play WoT, a KV-2 looks like a KV-2, you can't make it look like a Churchill III no matter how much gold you spend.

 

 

I wanna fight against this :-)

 

 

 

If it was a Hawken virus computer controlled enemy, or everyone against a single player with a non-respawning but OP unit, that'd be awesome.  They'd have to glue on a ton of greebles to that thing.






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