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Matchmaker.

And make weapons more realistic (actual projectiles, recoil, bullet drop, etc.)

Plus make the cloak actually a cloak and not a shiny, buggy "Here I am, pelase shoot me" sign.

 

The cloak  is fine if you are skilled at using it. infiltrator and predator  are not front line mechs they should be flanking and in general being sneaky bastards. I have been playing hawken 2 years pred was my second mech the first week I hated it .

 

  This being said pred is my main mech now.  Predator is the most complicated mech in the game to use in my opinion I am really tired of people that play it and because it is not easy want the cloak to  true invisibility want the weapons buffed. LEAVE predator  AND Infiltrator's   cloak  alone it is fine. if you can not play the mechs there are alot of good guides. Other wise go get a g2  assault and point and click.


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Never heard of "Dirty Bomb" game. Actually had to go search for it. Ahhh it's a new beta. No wonder. It is a new, small beta. Most VOIP work at that stage of the game unless the coding is just really atrocious. And yes while our player base may not be WOW it is a MMO. And Hawken transmits large amounts of data at a extremely high rate of speed. It is the nature of the game. It does it for many, many matches worldwide. Believe me, Hawken has ton of data to deal with rapidly. Some of the other players can tell you the same. And for about the 10th time I will repeat. I WANT VOIP for this game. I'm not sure if they will be able to make it work. I hope so. But thanks for the reply and take care!

 

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The cloak  is fine if you are skilled at using it. infiltrator and predator  are not front line mechs they should be flanking and in general being sneaky bastards. I have been playing hawken 2 years pred was my second mech the first week I hated it . This being said pred is my main mech now. LEAVE predator  AND Infiltrator's   cloak  alone it is fine.

 

Why are you talking for Infiltrator, not like we have wallhax. A's are a different breed then you B classes.



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This game is NOT an MMO. The game only has to deal with 12-24 players at a time. No one is calling Battlefield's 64 player games an 'MMO'. Traditionally, VOIP only transmits data within each server, so there is no data that transmits between servers where thousands of people are concerned.

The issue with VOIP, is that games have had it for 10+ years, but somehow the old Hawken devs couldn't figure it out. They aren't breaking new ground here.

In any case, there isn't any point about worrying about VOIP until we solve the problem of keeping players in the servers.
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The cloak is fine if you are skilled at using it. infiltrator and predator are not front line mechs they should be flanking and in general being sneaky bastards. I have been playing hawken 2 years pred was my second mech the first week I hated it .

This being said pred is my main mech now. Predator is the most complicated mech in the game to use in my opinion I am really tired of people that play it and because it is not easy want the cloak to true invisibility want the weapons buffed. LEAVE predator AND Infiltrator's cloak alone it is fine. if you can not play the mechs there are alot of good guides. Other wise go get a g2 assault and point and click.


I dion't know where you play, but where I play, the cloak is a big shiny texture which says HERE I AM! Everyone can see the cloak at every distance at every time at every location. And that is definately not the sense of the cloak.

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They should never have been put into this game in the first place. They were added March 27th 2013. Ascension did not start until October. It was a horrendous mistake. It imbalances the game and that is a fact, not a opinion. I liked the "gritty" feel of the old game.[/color]


No. This is actually all just your opinion. Just because YOU feel like something is imbalanced because of something YOU are doing wrong, doesn't make it so. I have serious gripes about the predator, but I don't claim it is imbalanced because I have trouble with it. I just keep working on. I certainly don't claim it's imbalanced because it's not "gritty" enough. The predator and infiltrator are not "gritty". But that's my opinion. Not a fact. Very different.

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I apologize if I offended you in any way Ghede. None was intended I assure you. But it really is a proven fact after being here all this time and tested by many, many talented people better than me. It imbalances the game. I have seen hundreds of times where a player with a tech is #1 on the list when he has a tech and last place when he doesn't. I swear it is true. I have seen it over and over. That is imbalances because it creates a artifical high player when in reality he is not. He would have died many, many times in the game. I understand your special needs for it and I understand. I wish I had some other option for you. I understand what it is to be at a disadvantage. I wish you the best of luck and hope you continue to have fun. Take care mate!

 

Oh by the way I just wanted to add the "gritty feel" had nothing to do with tech anyhow mate. And I know how to kill a tech. Ask the ones I've killed, lol. I have 6 of them. I have one that is fancied up. I know how to use them. I just don't by choice. The early game in 2012 was more gritty and raw. Ask any player who was there. The tech didn't come till a year later. Just wanted to clarify that. Well going to sleep now. Us old guys need it. I hope that clears up the misunderstanding mate because you seem like a pretty decent guy. See you later!


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This game has SERIOUS flaws!!!    It needs   MAJOR  updates!!

 

1:  Fix Mech  "A".

 

2:  Nerf gun "C".

 

3: ALL TEXT should be in COMIC SANS

 

4: Certify for Gluten Free..

 

5:  Rub my feet. 

 

6:  Offer 1 million MC  if I "LIke" on FaceBook.   Oh, wait.....

 

7:  Offer a mech called "The Blob",    ala  Grey Goo.....

 

8:  I play best in inclimate weather.  It's UNFAIR and UNREALISTIC to not have weather effects.

 

9:  In-game pull tabs,  and Mech  Starbucks locations.

 

10: We need a new item:  the Giant Mech Banana Peel....   we lay in on the ground,  the mech walks up,  slips on the 

      Giant Mech Banana Peel....  WHOOPS!!!   They take a spill. 

 

 

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I don't know where you play, but where I play, the cloak is a big shiny texture which says HERE I AM! Everyone can see the cloak at every distance at every time at every location. And that is definitely not the sense of the cloak.

 

I am curious as to what graphics setting you use. The cloak is a blurry phantasm for me.


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I am curious as to what graphics setting you use. The cloak is a blurry phantasm for me.

 

 

Everything on Maximum except for PhysX, they cause some FPS buggy stuff. I can see the cloak pretty well from almost any distance. 


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I apologize if I offended you in any way Ghede. None was intended I assure you. But it really is a proven fact after being here all this time and tested by many, many talented people better than me. It imbalances the game. I have seen hundreds of times where a player with a tech is #1 on the list when he has a tech and last place when he doesn't. I swear it is true. I have seen it over and over. That is imbalances because it creates a artifical high player when in reality he is not. He would have died many, many times in the game. I understand your special needs for it and I understand. I wish I had some other option for you. I understand what it is to be at a disadvantage. I wish you the best of luck and hope you continue to have fun. Take care mate!

 

Oh by the way I just wanted to add the "gritty feel" had nothing to do with tech anyhow mate. And I know how to kill a tech. Ask the ones I've killed, lol. I have 6 of them. I have one that is fancied up. I know how to use them. I just don't by choice. The early game in 2012 was more gritty and raw. Ask any player who was there. The tech didn't come till a year later. Just wanted to clarify that. Well going to sleep now. Us old guys need it. I hope that clears up the misunderstanding mate because you seem like a pretty decent guy. See you later!

Where I've seen it most powerful is in lower MMR matches.  I think when I first got it, I was number 1 consistently for a very long time.  I think the Tech and Incin should be locked out of lower level matches.  However, in my experience [two years of only playing the Tech] I can say that mid-high mmr matches are different.  I'm usually in the top 4.  I'm also a competent pilot.  I think my proposal of locking to higher mmr, 1750 average and higher, matches is the best thing we can do for the Tech.  Also, you didn't offend me.


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Listed in order of importance, dev decisions here,

 

META: Nail down a meta, and direction for Hawken. Choices; sticking with what we have now, which is more Arena esque with some mechy mechanics and style (very quick, darty, lowish TTK). Or pulling the arena bits back a smidgen to provide a more mechy-sim-esque vibe with arena style combat sprinkling (a hair slower, less spammy, less darty perhaps, slightly higher TTK) . And most importantly, please just stick to whatever you decide to go with.

 

Balance: Once that's in place and rolling, balance the hell out of the individual mechs, items, internals, and classes within that meta. 

 

Content: Start cranking out maps, lots of map if possible, if possible, adjust current maps for the meta. Followed with new mechs, and mech swag. With new mech swag coming out, please consider limiting mech parts to only that particular mech chassis. Not sure if the current system which enables a Predator to look like a CRT is the best idea (just one example). Yes you CAN, and SHOULD, be looking at a mechs weapons or icon during an engagement, but the first this you typically (naturally) look for is a mechs shape or appearance during that quick skirmish which decides your engagement tactics. The current setup enables disguising mechs which can be off putting or confusing, at least for me it is. I can only imagine what a new player thinks when an Assault or CRT goes invisible. 

 

Leader boards / clans / Rank system: So you have the content to get people to play, now give them a reason to stay. Chasing rank, climbing the leader boards, and in game community. Adjust the ranking system to avoid the MMR chasing, Titanfall's rank chip comes to mind which I feel is a really neat approach to "rank". The "rank chip" idea doesn't need to be copied exactly, but it;s a nice way to avoid having to split up servers for ranked and unranked matches. When you want to chase rank, activate the rank chip, if you want to relax, turn the rank chip off. Over time though your rank chip degrades if not actively playing. Keep MMR hidden, leave it as a MM tool exclusively, not something that players actively chase to increase.  Clans, obvious reasons.

 

Audio / Visual: At this point if things are going well, maybe consider tweaking the audio / visuals. It's been a few years since the game launched, video card prices have come down, maybe it's a good time to spruce things up a bit. Get Hawken caught up with the times. I'm not suggesting Hawken isn't already visually impressive, but a little more bling is never a bad idea. Bring back that griddier tone to maps, more smoke effects, projectile trails with smoke etc etc. Audibly Hawken could use a bit of tweaking, maybe even some regression back to how a few things sounded early on. I mean what the heck happened to the Vulcan? It used to have a weight to it, now it sounds like a pea shooter. Many times I find myself wishing some sounds had more weight to them. Would be cool to have bullets, missiles, or grenades have a "wizzing by you" sound. Could be exciting to dodge a giant tow, and hear it scream by your mech, and explode behind you. 

 

EXTRAS: In theory at this point the game is healthy, and sustainable. Optimistically a little over a year out at this point in my fantasy. I'd like some type of single player DLC. A nice 6-7hr campaign, $14.99, to let players explore the lore, and it could fill that sim mech experience a lot of mech fans crave, myself included. 

 

I didn't include any server, or code tweaks in my run down. I don't fully understand the extent of that work, but I'd imagine going through Hawken's code is something that is actively happening now and needs to be done before anything substantial can happen. Same goes for the servers, which it seems like is also happening now. 

 

But yeah, that is what should happen in my dream world. I'm not a game dev, so I have no idea how realistic anything I've rambled on about is. Be gentle people. 


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I think the Tech and Incin should be locked out of lower level matches.

 

I've seen plenty of Incinerators in lower ranks and I can tell you the bulk of them aren't exactly turning the tide for battles. This includes myself. I see more people unable to use PPA effectively or use the BBY as their weapon. If we're to lock out mech from lower level matches why not do Scout? I've seen far more potent scouts than Incinerators. I've seen way more potent techs than incinerators.

 

And techs are really only good if the team has a decent sense of teamwork. Which is good. Thing already has paper for armor so it shouldn't be unprotected.



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I dion't know where you play, but where I play, the cloak is a big shiny texture which says HERE I AM! Everyone can see the cloak at every distance at every time at every location.

 

I am calling bs on this. One you should not be WALKING in front of people with the cloak active YOU SHOULD BE KEEPING UNDER COVER. The cloak is a tool to make you blend in to you environment. "BLEND IN" Not be undetectable. If you are walking across flat open areas cloaked in front of people you will get your ass handed to you as a predator.

 

 The most important thing stalker mode does is get you off radar ... and you heat vision gives you the advantage of seeing what direction your enemy is facing. As a pred if you stay under cover , use you cloak , watch you radar and use coner-poking and doge tactics. You will be amazed  at how powerful this mech can be. Also are several  essential skills all predator  pilot needs to be successful you need to be familiar with eoc weapons and how they are used. the breacher is also a awesome weapon as it is the only weapon in the game that will penetrate shields.

 

What you really need to play this mech is patience and to know when (NOT TO MOVE) when cloaked. Another essential is TO EXPLORE THE MAPS FOR THE BEST PLACES TO HIDE. <-------(THIS IS ESSENTIAL )

 

 The predator is  the most demanding tactical  defensive mech in the game. Your inexperience with it is overshadowing your opinion.  Buy it , look at the guides here and play it for a week. If you need help friend me in game and I will teach you how to use this mech. 

 

This is the not just my opinion  but the opinion of all predator  pilots that take the time to learn this very difficult mech. I have been playing it along time.  At times I still find it challenging ..... but then again that is why I play a pred there is no other meck in the game that has it's  character and unique play-style .  THIS IS TACTICAL MECH .....you need a plan and to use all the aspects it has to unlock its true power. 


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Yeah hawken is not bad, but the grind is.

Must look at ways to ease the grind.

 

That grind? It seperates the determined from the weak minded. It divides the workers from the layabouts, and I love the grind. You want to be the best? You do the grind. Sacrifice time, blood, sweat, and tears to further your skills. None of this "I want the easy way" nonsense. I will never agree with an easier grind. You can go ahead and disagree with me, because many have and do and will, but my opinion on the matter will never change.


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Everything on Maximum except for PhysX, they cause some FPS buggy stuff. I can see the cloak pretty well from almost any distance. 

 

Even image grain and cockpit static?


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I am calling bs on this. One you should not be WALKING in front of people with the cloak active YOU SHOULD BE KEEPING UNDER COVER. The cloak is a tool to make you blend in to you environment. "BLEND IN" Not be undetectable.

One time on origin I was just about to die in my infil and I managed to get away from a guy and I turned the corner by those tall plateau things by the bases and I side dodged into its corner, then immeadiately cloaked, he and his buddy boosted around the corner and went right on past me, I sat completely still, it was super awesome.


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What if we just give some bacon paint, some bacon holo-emotes and change Bunker from snow to bacon.

 

This way, everyone will be happy.

What you should really do, is replace your parts with bacon, so you can cook games and eat bacon

Obviously the wallpaper would be cooler if bacon was incorporated into it.

 


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Yeah the Pred is a tough mech to play. It is not a straight up fighting mech. If you try to do that you will die. It is all about tactics with that baby. I have been using the Incin more lately (not as much as my other mechs, but more than I use to) and was surprised how fast it could move and dodge. For a big mech it can close up fight pretty well in low/mid matches. I've killed some pretty skilled pilots with it. Ask the people I've killed with it, lol. I still love my zerk best but do like the Assault. I also have a raider fixed up but could never get the hang of it. I got one of the new G2 Raider or "battleturkey" as its affectionately called. :) Doing better with it but still can't use it against skilled pilots. But it is fun. My old beloved Bruiser does not get used much these days as it has been nerfed to death. In the old days it was a force to be reckoned with. I learned how to throw missiles around corners. It was so awesome then. And when they hit you, you knew it. It was not like a mosquito biting you like it is now. Sigh........everything changes. And use to change all the time when the old devs where here. Oh well even a old dog has to learn new tricks to be competitive.


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 I also have a raider fixed up but could never get the hang of it. 

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What if we just give some bacon paint, some bacon holo-emotes and change Bunker from snow to bacon.

 

This way, everyone will be happy.

What you should really do, is replace your parts with bacon, so you can cook games and eat bacon

Obviously the wallpaper would be cooler if bacon was incorporated into it.

 


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My old beloved Bruiser does not get used much these days as it has been nerfed to death. In the old days it was a force to be reckoned with. I learned how to throw missiles around corners. It was so awesome then. And when they hit you, you knew it. It was not like a mosquito biting you like it is now. Sigh........everything changes. And use to change all the time when the old devs where here. Oh well even a old dog has to learn new tricks to be competitive.


I personally think the cooldown and the damage of the hellfires should be increased, as in it would be less spammy and annoying but be rewarding as you hit because it appears to do damage.
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The cloak  is fine if you are skilled at using it. infiltrator and predator  are not front line mechs they should be flanking and in general being sneaky bastards. I have been playing hawken 2 years pred was my second mech the first week I hated it .

 

  This being said pred is my main mech now.  Predator is the most complicated mech in the game to use in my opinion I am really tired of people that play it and because it is not easy want the cloak to  true invisibility want the weapons buffed. LEAVE predator  AND Infiltrator's   cloak  alone it is fine. if you can not play the mechs there are alot of good guides. Other wise go get a g2  assault and point and click.

 

I agree mostly, however I think it would be good to eliminate or reduce the fuel consumption of the infil's ability. Possibly shorten the cooldown if it is to remaini tied to fuel consumption.


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I am calling bs on this. One you should not be WALKING in front of people with the cloak active YOU SHOULD BE KEEPING UNDER COVER. The cloak is a tool to make you blend in to you environment. "BLEND IN" Not be undetectable. If you are walking across flat open areas cloaked in front of people you will get your ass handed to you as a predator.

The most important thing stalker mode does is get you off radar ... and you heat vision gives you the advantage of seeing what direction your enemy is facing. As a pred if you stay under cover , use you cloak , watch you radar and use coner-poking and doge tactics. You will be amazed at how powerful this mech can be. Also are several essential skills all predator pilot needs to be successful you need to be familiar with eoc weapons and how they are used. the breacher is also a awesome weapon as it is the only weapon in the game that will penetrate shields.

What you really need to play this mech is patience and to know when (NOT TO MOVE) when cloaked. Another essential is TO EXPLORE THE MAPS FOR THE BEST PLACES TO HIDE. <-------(THIS IS ESSENTIAL )

The predator is the most demanding tactical defensive mech in the game. Your inexperience with it is overshadowing your opinion. Buy it , look at the guides here and play it for a week. If you need help friend me in game and I will teach you how to use this mech.

This is the not just my opinion but the opinion of all predator pilots that take the time to learn this very difficult mech. I have been playing it along time. At times I still find it challenging ..... but then again that is why I play a pred there is no other meck in the game that has it's character and unique play-style . THIS IS TACTICAL MECH .....you need a plan and to use all the aspects it has to unlock its true power.


The pred and infil are abit different and I am only talking about the visual effect.
So tell me. Why shall I use a cloak at locations I am not seen by the enemy? If I am not seen anyways I don't even need a cloak right? The cloak is supposed to not get detected in enemy its view, atleast on the first sight.
Make the cloak crysis like or smth and we are fine. Damn hard to spot but fairly easy to spot when moving. Ofcourse this apllies only to experienced players how it should be.

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Even image grain and cockpit static?


As said, everything on maximum except physX. I don't even look what settings I can adjust. My GPU can run SC and other graphic beasts on ultra with 120 FPS.

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I'l start: 1.Rework bunker

               2. (I know they cant do this right away and it will take alot of work but I know everybody wants it) 

 

Nope. I don't want this.

 

Bunker is my favourite map. Leave it alone, please.



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Majority of Players leaving every match, which includes but not limited to:

1. Making the time between matches quicker. It takes way too long between match end and the next match start.

2. Get rid of specific game type daily bonus. We need to stop suggesting that players should play a game type they may not even like just to get a daily win, then leave the server.

3. Make games last longer so there is less time between matches. TDM should have no time limit with maybe 50 kills instead of 40, and MA could have 400 instead of 300 points. Seige is a good length right now.

Suggestions for more content is fuzzy bunny, we need to fix what we have first.


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I still can't believe everyone else is OK with how the servers die at the end of every round. This is THE biggest problem that kills the fun for me. The server empties, then takes half the next match to fill up. This is a big problem.

I don't want to server hop, I just want to stay in the same one for a while and have fun.
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That grind? It seperates the determined from the weak minded. It divides the workers from the layabouts, and I love the grind. You want to be the best? You do the grind. Sacrifice time, blood, sweat, and tears to further your skills. None of this "I want the easy way" nonsense. I will never agree with an easier grind. You can go ahead and disagree with me, because many have and do and will, but my opinion on the matter will never change.

Good, now I know who to ignore. A person who refuses to hear a counterpoint is a person without a defendable position.

The biggest problem with hawken is its inability to retain new players. It didn't always have this problem. But then, when many of us started, the grind was 2 to 3 times easier that it is now.

For instance, at the start of open beta there was a crapload of HC codes given out, and when those petered or they started giving HC out for achievements and giving mechs away for playing other mechs.

Things are tough right now for new players, and we can't just attract mlgnoscopetryhards or this grand experiment will never grow.

And one of the things that drove so many players away was the constantly shifting meta.

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The leveling and unlocking are integral to this free to play scenario.
Therefore some sorta grind.
I would like to wake up one day and live the fantasy where Hawken is one price (except for cosmetics skins).
With every mech and weapon available to the single initial purchase.
No leveling. No matchmaking. Actual high quality privately hosted severs.
2 money LAN events a year. An active animated series and shameless merchandising.
I can dream.
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2 money LAN events a year. An active animated series and shameless merchandising.


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@Crafty.............ROFL...........OK some of those things I could get behind. And yeah its all pretty funny. You are so ate up. (old expression, look it up. I think you'll like it. ) Take care!

 

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