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Had to question whether OP was a sarcastic post or not. "todays gaming world" is the only place where this type of thing is not only acceptable but even slightly celebrated. Even in some communities that don't pride themselves on being as nasty as possible, derogative words are tossed around without any consideration to the actual weight behind the words. Unfortunate, yes I agree.

 

 

This again?

 

Did the forums really need another thread about this?  Have some of you got nothing better to do?

 

Oh wow this again? Someone acknowledging how toxic online gaming can be? Someone with a decent demeanor contemplating how nasty internet pooplords can be? Shouldn't they just realize how terrible the internet is and accept it? A little naive, sure I agree. But I don't think we really need to poop all over someone for expecting other people to at least act like competent human beings.


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derogative words are tossed around without any consideration to the actual weight behind the words. Unfortunate, yes I agree.

Just wanna point out why i feel the opposite on this issue, because i think a lot of people could benefit from it.

 

Words have no meaning at all to me. Yeah, if someone calls me a fuzzy bunny, i'm going to assume they mean a certain thing; but i think it's beneficial in a lot of ways to operate under the notion that words are completely empty- because they are. Words can be useful because we agree on their meaning a lot, but in the end, they're just an attempt at conveying a sentiment to another person, and it's simply a fact that words can have various definitions across cultures.

 

I don't mean to start some massive discussion with this, it's just food for thought that i think would benefit a lot of people. In the least, you'll never be offended by any word ever again- yeah a person might offend you with their intentions, but the letters didn't do it, the person did.

Idk, it makes interactions easier and more understandable for me, and i think a lot of people don't think this way.

 

EDIT: To accommodate for fuzzy bunnies rather than swear words...


Edited by CoshCaust, 20 December 2015 - 01:51 AM.

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Just wanna point out why i feel the opposite on this issue, because i think a lot of people could benefit from it.

 

Words have no meaning at all to me. Yeah, if someone calls me a fuzzy bunny, i'm going to assume they mean a certain thing; but i think it's beneficial in a lot of ways to operate under the notion that words are completely empty- because they are. Words can be useful because we agree on their meaning a lot, but in the end, they're just an attempt at conveying a sentiment to another person, and it's simply a fact that words can have various definitions across cultures.

 

I don't mean to start some massive discussion with this, it's just food for thought that i think would benefit a lot of people. In the least, you'll never be offended by any word ever again- yeah a person might offend you with their intentions, but the letters didn't do it, the person did.

Idk, it makes interactions easier and more understandable for me, and i think a lot of people don't think this way.

 

EDIT: To accommodate for fuzzy bunnies rather than swear words...

 

I know I'm really late getting back to this party, but I spend a lot of time drinking, and unlike tickle I have important things to do, like sleep and play pokemon.

 

But the thing is I feel almost exactly as you do.

 

I don't think any word is inherently bad. Like you say, words are just sounds, and those sounds alone are empty. But that's why the implications behind words are very very important.

 

Louis CK has said before he doesn't understand why people get so offended by the liberal use of that word that once meant "happy" but is used to define certain sexual orientation. Because when he was growing up it "didn't mean anything bad" something would happen and you'd say, oh that's "happy", or somebody would be acting like a real jerk you'd say, oh that guy's such a "happy". And that logic aggravates me so much. ( I understand Louis is an entertainer and a creator, so I can't even be sure if that's his real opinion, but him just saying it, there by validating it for others makes me sad)

 

It aggravates me because he's not taking any responsibility for, or even acknowledging (even though he spells it out himself clear as day), the implications behind using that word in that way. By using a persons sexual orientation to refer to bad things, bad scenarios, you're implying that thing is also bad. People don't get their cars totaled and say "well this is a blowjob of a day", they don't spill hot coffee on themselves and scream "CURE FOR CANCER THIS IS HOT".

 

And even if you and I are old/mature enough to realize that's not what he really "means" to imply, plenty of young impressionable children aren't. They probably won't even make the connection at first, they won't think "oh "happy" is used for bad things, so it's bad", but it'll will be there in the backs of their minds.

 

Just imagine if one day at your work place an "in-joke" was made where your coworkers replaced an expletive with your name. At first it might be funny as people use it innocently in jest. But as you start to experience it from people expressing genuinely negative emotions, frothing outbursts. I wonder how that'd affect you, the way people think of you.

 

I agree, words mean nothing, but what you put behind them means absolutely everything. It's why we are what we are, a lot of people don't be thinking it be, but it do.


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I have to admit my threshold for allowing censorship isn't actually at infinity.

People like armored klown are obviously nothing but negativity for Hawken, and i have no qualms about purified toxicity such as him being banned...i just want that sort of censorship to be very rare and very, very well deserved before i see it.

Armored Klown was possibly one of the best things to happen to the commu-..me. I got so much laughs from antagonizing the lil guy XD. Surprised people still remember the tyke.



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My scotch-sense is tingling...

 

hhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

 

fffffffffffffff

 

Look at these things. This is the sort of thing that actually keeps me coming back to this place. When I started playing, I came here because I wanted to know more about the game that I was rapidly sinking hours and hours and hours into, and I found some things and wrote some things, but two years later after I could basically write Hawken's code if I knew how to code, after pretty much every bit of information on the game has wound up in my head, I'm still here. And this is why.

 

This is a gaming community for poops sake. Why hasn't everything longer than 5 posts devolved into youtube comments!? But no. Instead on a pretty consistent basis, even if things get a little off topic or even disrespectful, the people here are frequently willing and able to arrange their thoughts in these several hundred word long, respectful and thoughtful explanations of their opinions and experience.

 

Thank you. You goddamn nerds.

 

 

I know I'm really late getting back to this party, but I spend a lot of time drinking, and unlike tickle I have important things to do, like sleep and play pokemon.

Libel.


Edited by ticklemyiguana, 03 January 2016 - 09:25 AM.

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neeEEEEEEEEERRRrrrd


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Have you got nothing better to do than to point that out?

I like you
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My scotch-sense is tingling...




Look at these things. This is the sort of thing that actually keeps me coming back to this place. When I started playing, I came here because I wanted to know more about the game that I was rapidly sinking hours and hours and hours into, and I found some things and wrote some things, but two years later after I could basically write Hawken's code if I knew how to code, after pretty much every bit of information on the game has wound up in my head, I'm still here. And this is why.

This is a gaming community for poops sake. Why hasn't everything longer than 5 posts devolved into youtube comments!? But no. Instead on a pretty consistent basis, even if things get a little off topic or even disrespectful, the people here are frequently willing and able to arrange their thoughts in these several hundred word long, respectful and thoughtful explanations of their opinions and experience.

Thank you. You goddamn nerds.


Libel.

Best gaming community ever, and that's a big achievement. No toxicity, just off topicness and cheekiness
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Scotch-sense?

 

You drink Islays, therefore you have none.


Did I say Call Me Ishmael?

 

You should call me Luna.


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Scotch-sense?

You drink Islays, therefore you have none.

You drink Irish whisky at best you casual. I tried your peasants swill and it disappointed!

Islay single malt is best scotch. Don't you dare.

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I know I'm really late getting back to this party, but I spend a lot of time drinking, and unlike tickle I have important things to do, like sleep and play pokemon.

 

But the thing is I feel almost exactly as you do.

 

I don't think any word is inherently bad. Like you say, words are just sounds, and those sounds alone are empty. But that's why the implications behind words are very very important.

 

Louis CK has said before he doesn't understand why people get so offended by the liberal use of that word that once meant "happy" but is used to define certain sexual orientation. Because when he was growing up it "didn't mean anything bad" something would happen and you'd say, oh that's "happy", or somebody would be acting like a real jerk you'd say, oh that guy's such a "happy". And that logic aggravates me so much. ( I understand Louis is an entertainer and a creator, so I can't even be sure if that's his real opinion, but him just saying it, there by validating it for others makes me sad)

 

It aggravates me because he's not taking any responsibility for, or even acknowledging (even though he spells it out himself clear as day), the implications behind using that word in that way. By using a persons sexual orientation to refer to bad things, bad scenarios, you're implying that thing is also bad. People don't get their cars totaled and say "well this is a blowjob of a day", they don't spill hot coffee on themselves and scream "CURE FOR CANCER THIS IS HOT".

 

And even if you and I are old/mature enough to realize that's not what he really "means" to imply, plenty of young impressionable children aren't. They probably won't even make the connection at first, they won't think "oh "happy" is used for bad things, so it's bad", but it'll will be there in the backs of their minds.

 

Just imagine if one day at your work place an "in-joke" was made where your coworkers replaced an expletive with your name. At first it might be funny as people use it innocently in jest. But as you start to experience it from people expressing genuinely negative emotions, frothing outbursts. I wonder how that'd affect you, the way people think of you.

 

I agree, words mean nothing, but what you put behind them means absolutely everything. It's why we are what we are, a lot of people don't be thinking it be, but it do.

 

The difference lies in the mind of the one on the receiving end.

I could be a black, gay, female, and someone could call me a "retarded (mentally impaired) faggot (homosexual person) fuzzy bunny (black person) fuzzy bunny (vagina)" (fill in the fuzzy bunnies), and all i'm going to hear is "I'm angry at you and my goal is to hurt your feelings, but i am simply responding emotionally and have no actual substance to any possible insult." because i'm translating their words into their actual [most likely] meaning- if a person wants to actually insult me, they'll have some actual insult.

This is why, with my closest friends, we can call each other f_ggot, r_tard, c_nt, s_it, a_shole, ,k_ke, f_cker, d_ck, p_ssy, n_gger - on and on - and have it not mean anything- because we all know our actual meaning behind the words- the letters we chose to combine were for aesthetic more than anything.

 

Am i saying it's okay to use sketchy words liberally? I mean...no, you're going to hurt someone's feelings; but in a perfect world where people thought about intentions/causes behind words rather than historical uses and cultural definitions, then yes word choice would become as menial as the color of your shirt; just an aspect of a person's character, almost like an accent in their speech- simply a way of making mouth noises.

 

Boy is it true that a lot of people don't think it be like it is, but it do.


Edited by CoshCaust, 05 January 2016 - 07:14 PM.

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Dumb white kids calling each other the N-word in a desperate bid to feel cool is the real terrorism.
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Dumb white kids calling each other the N-word in a desperate bid to feel cool is the real terrorism.

Fixed that for you.


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To be serious for a moment this is just a joke

 


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Fixed that for you.

 

Why limit it to dumb kids?  I hear dumb adults call each other by that word too. Downright -insert word that pisses people off here-


Edited by ATX22, 05 January 2016 - 12:50 PM.

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My two cents, I am generally opposed to censorship in any form, i think the mute button in game is excellent in that it allows users to filter things that they dislike without the suppression of free speech, however, i think once an opinion or statement crosses the line to actual harassment then its no longer protected, i am also much of the same mind as cosh in that,

 

Someone can only offend you with your consent, words carry only the power you give them.

 

As such, though i prefer to refrain from crass language in general personally, Let the fuzzy bunny opinions roll.


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