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Not sure if this has ever been suggested, but I personally feel the air compressor shouldn't be an internal, but instead should be a standard feature like boosting or dodging. I also think this could end up interesting, since it introduces the possibility of mechs coming out without the ability or another having a more potent version.

Just a thought.


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When peoples create another 1000 topics like this, maybe devs implement this :D
We just creating not enough topics about this XD









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This is the thread you were looking for.


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this what were gona do today? were gona fight?


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I would be OK with dodges off/into walls being free without AC, if only so I can fast-climb AA without having to spec 3 slots for it.


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Not sure if this has ever been suggested

 

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Whoa, posted this earlier today to come back and see so much negativity. This is why I recommend against playing this game to less tolerant people.

 

 

And thanks brackets.


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Whoa, posted this earlier today to come back and see so much negativity. This is why I recommend against playing this game to less tolerant people.

 

Alright. 

 

I want you to put yourself in our shoes. We've spent the past three days weathering another goddamn gore-spam, posts complaining about ping and attacks on venerably asinine community members.

 

And then we see the two words comprising a phrase that, if you search for it, brings up three pages of spiteful, irrational, vitriolic dead-end arguments.

 

So, terribly sorry if we bit your head off, but would it kill you to do a search first.


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I like your post hectagoncherries. Air dodge is fun and should be fun for all.
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Whoa, posted this earlier today to come back and see so much negativity. This is why I recommend against playing this game to less tolerant people.

 

 

As Amid has kindly explained, you came at a really bad time for positivity. As for telling people to stop playing a game due to a few posts on a topic that has been discussed and criticized and there has been a lot of very heated debate and then dumping the whole community into this grouping before you even searched, really doesn't seem to fit well.

 

Also, as far as not recommending the game goes because of a few moderate posts, just please look at a game like League of Legends where every second word is a **** and every little error you make is met but "*insert name here* plz" or "just uninstall". After you go through that hell hole, please come back and reconsider what you just said.


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Not sure if this has ever been suggested

 

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this means i could use orblord zerk with air compressor

 

 

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Whoa, posted this earlier today to come back and see so much negativity. This is why I recommend against playing this game to less tolerant people.

 

 

And thanks brackets.

just because the majority of forum members don't agree with your idea (that has been discussed again and again) doesn't meen people are negative.

it just means people dont agree with you. don't play butthurt.

 

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I would be OK with dodges off/into walls being free without AC, if only so I can fast-climb AA without having to spec 3 slots for it.

 i was thinking about this the other day, if mechs could do wall dodges off walls, thought that could be interesting in maps like wreckage, though it might favor A class a bit.


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Heh, I actually had a well-thought and in-depth answer to all your posts, but I believe it'll be more appropriate to just point out that leaving a simple comment like brackets's would've been far more effective and worth your time. I hope you guys find better outlets for your frustrations, such as playing games.  :thumbsup:


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 i was thinking about this the other day, if mechs could do wall dodges off walls, thought that could be interesting in maps like wreckage, though it might favor A class a bit.

Sounds like a fun function, but I can see boosting to higher platforms being frustrating if you're just barely clearing it.


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Eh... I wouldn't want wall hopping in Hawken.

 

 

 I hope you guys find better outlets for your frustrations, such as playing games.  :thumbsup:

 

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Let me ask you this, do want the A types and more importantly The Assualt to be even more powerful? Why do I say that, well if you let Air compressor become intergrated then that frees up a 3 slot for those mechs and lord knows what internals people would use then. I see orblord pillar humping in your future.


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Air Compressor is currently one of the more interesting costumization options because it actually changes how the mech behaves instead of just being a stat tweak like almost every other internal is.

Personally I would rather see more internals on the same level as AC rather than homogenizing things further.
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Air Compressor is currently one of the more interesting costumization options because it actually changes how the mech behaves instead of just being a stat tweak like almost every other internal is.

Personally I would rather see more internals on the same level as AC rather than homogenizing things further.

yes please!



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The same threads over and over again, and nothing changes. It feels like we are all trapped in a time loop like in Groundhog Day.


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I used to be in favor of universal AC. But now I am against it after realizing that would mean messing with core game play yet again. However, I have an alternate solution!

Although they aren't officially so, internals can break down into three types: Offense, Defense, and Movement. They break down even further into three sub-types: Passive Boost, Conditonal Boost, and Activated Boost. The Air Compressor is the only Activated Boost internal in the game. Imagine it as an Ability with an extremely short cool down. No other internal does this. So instead of messing with the Air Compressor, let's have more Activated Boost internals instead! One for Offense and one for Defense at the least. Here's an example of what they could look like:

Offense - Safety Release - 3 slots
Mechs with an Overheating warning can now temporarily stop automatic shutdown from the Overheated status and continue fighting past 100% heat. When the effect ends, the mech still shuts down from Overheated, and Overheated lasts longer based on how far the mech went past 100% heat. Incompatible with other Activated Boost internals.

Defense - Personal Shield - 3 slots
Mechs at full health can now have their drone construct a damage-absorbing shield. The shield's health points diminish over time. Incompatible with other Activated Boost internals.

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Air compressor should take 6 slots.


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The same threads over and over again, and nothing changes. It feels like we are all trapped in a time loop like in Groundhog Day.


LOL, dude. You are playing a game that had stagnant (no) development for almost a year, and a new developer now running thats that won't be able to make a client patch for probably at least another month and are hanging out in said games forums; what exactly are you expecting?
 

I used to be in favor of universal AC. But now I am against it after realizing that would mean messing with core game play yet again. However, I have an alternate solution!

Although they aren't officially so, internals can break down into three types: Offense, Defense, and Movement. They break down even further into three sub-types: Passive Boost, Conditonal Boost, and Activated Boost. The Air Compressor is the only Activated Boost internal in the game. Imagine it as an Ability with an extremely short cool down. No other internal does this. So instead of messing with the Air Compressor, let's have more Activated Boost internals instead! One for Offense and one for Defense at the least. Here's an example of what they could look like:

Offense - Safety Release - 3 slots
Mechs with an Overheating warning can now temporarily stop automatic shutdown from the Overheated status and continue fighting past 100% heat. When the effect ends, the mech still shuts down from Overheated, and Overheated lasts longer based on how far the mech went past 100% heat. Incompatible with other Activated Boost internals.

Defense - Personal Shield - 3 slots
Mechs at full health can now have their drone construct a damage-absorbing shield. The shield's health points diminish over time. Incompatible with other Activated Boost internals.


Sounds like might be interesting but possibly quite controversial. Either way I would say it deserves its own topic.

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Wait, I thought we were no longer allowed to discuss "Air Compressor, Vote to Kick, MMR, Smurfing, Rage-Quit Penalties or Cheating".

 

It was my impression that any attempt to discuss the main problems people are having with Hawken would result in locked or deleted topics and possible forum bans.

 

..l.,


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Sounds like might be interesting but possibly quite controversial.

 

The biggest possible problem I can think of, is that no matter what those new offense/defense internals actually end up doing, taking one of them or the Air Compressor will become a requirement in all internal builds. If that happens, then I already have a solution:

 

Tuning 2.0. All new mechs come pre-tuned with either the Air Compressor, or one of the new offense/defense thingies. What they start out with depends on their intended role. Mechs can only have one tuning option at a time, and unlocking the other two tuning options requires buying them with HC or MC.


Edited by HugeGuts, 01 November 2015 - 06:22 PM.


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The biggest possible problem I can think of, is that no matter what those new offense/defense internals actually end up doing, taking one of them or the Air Compressor will become a requirement in all internal builds. If that happens, then I already have a solution:

 

Tuning 2.0. All new mechs come pre-tuned with either the Air Compressor, or one of the new offense/defense thingies. What they start out with depends on their intended role. Mechs can only have one tuning option at a time, and unlocking the other two tuning options requires buying them with HC or MC.

it would have to be with hc upon leveling the mech, or metor for immediately, otherwise its gona get p2w spam


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pls no






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