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StubbornPuppet

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I played a few matches last night where the match started with 6 players on one team and 4 on the other... and stayed that way for a while, with no "imbalanced teams" message.

 

I know that one of the recent surveys from ReLoaded asked how we would feel about matches that created team balance by placing a few high ranked players against a larger number of lower ranked players... and that's what this felt like.

 

It actually worked pretty well until about half way through the matches when two more players joined and filled out the team that was down people... then that team had a big comeback and won.

 

Anyone else notice this?

 

CapnJosh or Lady Tiggs care to comment?


Edited by StubbornPuppet, 27 August 2015 - 12:33 PM.

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CapnJosh or Lady Tiggs care to comment?

 

Heh.


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I was vocally against this idea when I completed the survey- there are better ways to balance teams compared to sticking 3 pros on one team and 8 rookies on the other, as the survey suggested- ya know, like 1 pro and 5 rookies vs 2 pros and 3 rookies. Then again, who knows...

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Stranger things have happened. 


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I have seen this happen in matches. I think there is a bug somewhere with this. I don't think its Reloaded faults as I have seen this behavior before they took over.



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Was against the idea, too, 4 the same reasons. However, i didn't notice a match starting with uneven numbers of players in excess of 1, but another weird thing occured 2 me - i've been switched 2 the other team - either accidentally by pressing the key 4 volunteering (what i don't believe), or have been FORCED 2 the other team several times 2day - not sure, what happened exactly, but after the switch the teams were perfectly even again by numbers.

 

Maybe they decided 2 allow the matchmaker 2 automatically switch a player of his choice if needed? I'm really curious about that, too, but i guess in any case mentioned here the devs would let us know about such important changes in an official announcement, anyway.

 

I also noticed the usual disbalance kept 4 many matches on several servers, although the matchmaker mixed the teams anew due 2 leavers (at the end of the match) and others that joined (at the beginning of the next match). It just stayed disbalanced, although it looked like the matchmaker is doing its job well -

it separated the equal number of equally skilled players (which i know well) in2 opposite teams, as it's supposed 2 do, but the balance kept broken, obviously. I can only guess, that there were some smurfs among the "noob" players (that i didn't know), that lead 2 the disbalance, but i have no proof of that...

 

I think, they should simply open up all servers 2 any1, regardless of his/her MMR just 4 a short while, 2 let us c what happens. Maybe that's an improvement over the current state. If we r not able 2 try out, we'll neva know...

 

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Was against the idea, too, 4 the same reasons. However, i didn't notice a match starting with uneven numbers of players in excess of 1, but another weird thing occured 2 me - i've been switched 2 the other team - either accidentally by pressing the key 4 volunteering (what i don't believe), or have been FORCED 2 the other team several times 2day - not sure, what happened exactly, but after the switch the teams were perfectly even again by numbers.

 

Maybe they decided 2 allow the matchmaker 2 automatically switch a player of his choice if needed? I'm really curious about that, too, but i guess in any case mentioned here the devs would let us know about such important changes in an official announcement, anyway.

 

I also noticed the usual disbalance kept 4 many matches on several servers, although the matchmaker mixed the teams anew due 2 leavers (at the end of the match) and others that joined (at the beginning of the next match). It just stayed disbalanced, although it looked like the matchmaker is doing its job well -

it separated the equal number of equally skilled players (which i know well) in2 opposite teams, as it's supposed 2 do, but the balance kept broken, obviously. I can only guess, that there were some smurfs among the "noob" players (that i didn't know), that lead 2 the disbalance, but i have no proof of that...

 

I think, they should simply open up all servers 2 any1, regardless of his/her MMR just 4 a short while, 2 let us c what happens. Maybe that's an improvement over the current state. If we r not able 2 try out, we'll neva know...

 

regards, BL4CK_W1D0W

If no one volunteers, then someone is forced to switch. Also, could you please not use numbers in place of letters? It annoys me a lot


Edited by TronX33, 27 August 2015 - 02:54 PM.

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Ow - didn't knew that b4... Thx 4 notifying me TronX33. I already suspected my Keyboard 2 b beyond repair, typing various keys randomly, or having Gremlins inside the machine... ;)


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CapnJosh or Lady Tiggs care to comment?

If you haven't noticed their interaction with the community is pitiful... to say the least.



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If you haven't noticed their interaction with the community is pitiful... to say the least.

 

No, I had not noticed that at all.  I feel they interact at exactly the professional amount.

There should always be a very clear distance between game developers and the community - where they use social media (like this forum) to inform the player base of action items and provide occasional statements on very specific community concerns which are currently being addressed.  When developers communicate much more than that, it does nothing more than spawn mass arguing and an unwelcome flood of complaining and suggestions (aka demands).

 

They do not owe me an explanation about why they made every single decision they made.  They do not owe me any privy to information about their plans.  They most certainly do not have to act like they are my buddies.


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To be serious for a moment this is just a joke

 


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I liked what you said puppet but I know the people wanting responses just love the game as much as we all do and are hoping for feedback.  We've just got to accept there's only so much the devs can say while they're working on this stuff without sending the community into an uproar with a misinterpreted statement.

 

It's the same at your job or playing the game.   Management will restrict what can be given and if you break the rule one time or multiple you're on the way to being out of a job either way.

 

Everybody hang in there and enjoy what we have even if you think nothing is going on up top I assure you they didn't buy this game to lose money.  Someone's working on it.



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Heh.

No.


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To be honest, its a bit odd from the balance perspective but i have seen games like that work and work well, though i notice the balance is fragile as soon as someone joins it will fall apart. If they can get a game to be fair like that im all for it.


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I've seen it a few times before. It's quite rare and I think it's because the balance is requested when the mmr of the team than needs players is lower. In theory, a team can be two down and still have sigigicantly higher mmr than the team that was two players up. As I've said, I've seen this a few times in the last few years that I've been playing so... I might just see it because I'll stay in a lobby for near a full map rotation if not a full one almost every time I play if I can help it

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OK, thanks folks.  Seems I just found a singularity in Hawken space where I got a few of these rare occurrences in a row.  But it did feel just like what was asked about in the survey, so I wondered.


Edited by StubbornPuppet, 28 August 2015 - 10:14 AM.

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