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There are some very talented players that I pray I don't come across capable of taking me from full health to dead while they only have a sliver of health.

 

I call the move the buzz kill because that's what it feels like and the nasty scoutses and infiltrators are able to perform  it with exact precision and they remind me of insects.

 

I think it's an air dodge left, land a heat canon or grenade combined with a tow, land, forward thrust out. 

 

It all happens in what appears to be half a second and I just can't come close to duplicating it.  Is it possible someone has crafted a macro to allow them to be so precise?

 

Give me a hand here, how is this done?


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listen to good music while playing that is fast

 

Me I like UK hardcore , Hard dance and even some rave music every now and then 


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Fire-dodge can be a macro.

I don't use it personally as I feel a rhythm in the match and adapt to your (opponent) moves. All combinations of movement are down cold in my muscle/twitch memory so I don't use macros...

I slide to keep you in my sights with flak or smc and will chain oblique Dodge and boost with a fluid transition. Ill click off the primary as it crosses your hitbox in something like a smearing move. I'll double-click the secondary as soon as I've opened up the gap a little.

I personally have done this to you, in alt accounts.


Generally with heat I keep more distance and splash the ground or wall ahead of you at the start and end of the chained oblique Dodge and boost.

Miniflak I will facehug for two seconds then Dodge boost to get the separation gir tow and close again immediately.

I maybe do this 10? of the time. Otherwise I'll use cover or speed, I srldon get 1v1s in the open, and when I do its usually one shot and on to the next target in a pub. 2300+ and 24-man I don't have time for any 1v1 at all, thus turning into the 'speed dance in deathball' technique.

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listen to good music while playing that is fast

 

Me I like UK hardcore , Hard dance and even some rave music every now and then 

 

Preach it brudda

 

I prefer to listen to http://420.moe/ on full blast while hawkening


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No truly good A class players will have a single move that they use to consistently kill people. In fact, don't even expect to find a set of moves. Instead, a good player is one who can read and preempt your actions to avoid damage and land shots.


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No truly good A class players will have a single move that they use to consistently kill people. In fact, don't even expect to find a set of moves. Instead, a good player is one who can read and preempt your actions to avoid damage and land shots.

My favorite move is to just not dodge at all and watch people's TOWs go to the sides of me in anticipation.


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Some people I can't predict (Merl) so I try to make them choose between taking my primary or secondary. You get a det.

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throw this on blast while playing helps alote * my opinion * 

 

 

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It is functionally a sped up version of what goes on here:


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When I try to focus: I suck. But I will do well when I just let my mind do the shooting. It's a very odd thing and I have taken to call it my zen mode. If I try and override my pre-programed instincts I gained over the years I miss a lot. I focus my center on my reticle and focus away from my opponent while aiming at them. Like how you look ahead when driving. I then use the nearby terrain to gauge where to shoot next. Sounds insane when I try and explain it but I swear it works for me.


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It's a very odd thing and I have taken to call it my zen mode.

 

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When I try to focus: I suck. But I will do well when I just let my mind do the shooting. It's a very odd thing and I have taken to call it my zen mode. If I try and override my pre-programed instincts I gained over the years I miss a lot. I focus my center on my reticle and focus away from my opponent while aiming at them. Like how you look ahead when driving. I then use the nearby terrain to gauge where to shoot next. Sounds insane when I try and explain it but I swear it works for me.

It's just muscle memory. If you have to put thought into something it means you have't fully learned it, which is why when people walk around they don't put much thought into the muscles needed to move there legs because they are so used to the movement and thus there mind can worry about other things. 

 

Once you get better at the basics and aiming in Hawken for example, you will have more space to put your attention to other aspects of the game such as predicting what the other person might do, predicting how you think they are going to react to what you'e going to do, and so forth. 


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You gotta ask: what is going through those A-driver's heads? Simple - they are using their mobility to stay out from in front of you. Nothing more. Also, that "sweeping" motion that Luna is describing is a positive side-effect. Burst weapons don't require you target to stay in your crosshairs, just when you want our shots to land. This removes that central point that sustained weapons must, well, sustain.

Can't always hit what's not in front of you.
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When I try to focus: I suck. But I will do well when I just let my mind do the shooting. It's a very odd thing and I have taken to call it my zen mode. If I try and override my pre-programed instincts I gained over the years I miss a lot. I focus my center on my reticle and focus away from my opponent while aiming at them. Like how you look ahead when driving. I then use the nearby terrain to gauge where to shoot next. Sounds insane when I try and explain it but I swear it works for me.

 

Same here, just zoning out seems to works better than trying to focus. I don't think I'm even looking at the opponent most of the time, just knowing where he is from peripheral vision and the radar to dodge around him and mostly looking around to where I can dodge/boost to get cover or break the turn cap. Probably came from playing so much burst mechs.


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DubStep, DnB.

Metal

Anything with fast hard bass.

Headphones cranked until it wakes up the MILF in the other end of the house,

No music and ingame sounds Loud so I can hear footsteps when IAreDave is in the server.

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Am i the only one that actually listens to more calm type of music for better hawken performance because it negates my 'panic and rushing' and helps to plan something out instead of just yoloing ?

Anyone ? no ?
....oki.
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nope. beethoveen, mozart, bach, Sousa.

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Just don't stop making those moves when you thinking oh I have 15hp it's over!! You panic you do predictable stuff like going for that corner without fuel left  :ninja: Don't make finishing you easier for them. Sometimes doing stuff opposite to what opponent expects of you will let you do couple more moves before going down. A quote from 'ghost dog' fits well: "If a warrior's head were to be suddenly cut off, he should still be able to perform one more action with certainty."  :ninja: 


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How did this turn into a music thread? I never listen to music while I play HAWKEN. Paying attention to Vdragon on TeamSpeak is enough for me. :)


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I don't listen to music as it distracts me during play, and I do better when focusing.

I guess I'm weird in those aspects.



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How did this turn into a music thread? I never listen to music while I play HAWKEN. Paying attention to Vdragon on TeamSpeak is enough for me. :)

 

 

I used to not do well if I were in TS at the same time as playing the game.  It's not so much an issue anymore, but the first few matches of TPG... ugh.


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Am i the only one that actually listens to more calm type of music for better hawken performance because it negates my 'panic and rushing' and helps to plan something out instead of just yoloing ?

Anyone ? no ?
....oki.

I'm that one guy who listens to smooth jazz and orchestra while I play.  I use calming music for the same reasons you do. :D


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I either listen to silence, loli.dance, or honking.


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As primarily a class A mech player heres what we run into 

 

New Players: These guys spawn into the game and do a lot of standing around looking around. Usually they dont even turn around before you blow them up. 

 

Newish Players: These players I run into while stalking - send off a tow/flak and then dodge behind something. They come around the corner, already heating up their guns and walking in a straight line trying to shoot me. Its usually over quickly. 

 

Learned players: Players who learned how to dodge but still have poor knowledge of map layout and the use of cover. They can shoot straight enough that I need to be careful but I usually not worried about them too much. 

 

Adept Players: These people are like the previous desciption, but know how to keep moving and shoot decently. They havent learned the snap reflexes or movements of higher tier players yet, and are eaily corner poked, but cover and radar awareness is required when facing them. They still tend to get flustered when taking a lot of hits - which can be used to your advantage. 

 

Skilled players: The players I usually fight. They can shoot straight, they use cover, they know tricks of the map, They can play a few mechs decently, they put up a good fight and make you strech your skills and keep thinking. They still do predictable things and will move in ways that make landing tows easy, but they shoot back just as easy if you arent on your game. 

 

Advanced Players: Players who have their mechs and jobs down. They have a high KD and usually sit near the top if not the top of the scoreboard. You like to see their name appear on your team. With support they can wreak havok on a map. 

 

Pro Players: These are the players I learn from while im being destroyed. Do they move in a predictable way? Or do they move opposite of what I would expect? Do I expect the unexpected - and then they move predictably based on thinking im thinking that they will move unexpectedly? These guys are a real pain and a real treat to fight. I lose 90% of the time. They dont miss, so I better not either. Opps I missed.. fuzzy bunny... ack.. fuzzy bunny.. almost.. AAAAHHHH!! Most of these people have been in Hawken for years now. 

 

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What is this topic about again?


To be serious for a moment this is just a joke

 


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When I try to focus: I suck. But I will do well when I just let my mind do the shooting. It's a very odd thing and I have taken to call it my zen mode. If I try and override my pre-programed instincts I gained over the years I miss a lot. I focus my center on my reticle and focus away from my opponent while aiming at them. Like how you look ahead when driving. I then use the nearby terrain to gauge where to shoot next. Sounds insane when I try and explain it but I swear it works for me.

 

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Just don't stop making those moves when you thinking oh I have 15hp it's over!!


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Never give up. Throw an EMP, fire a TOW, keep dodging, aiming, and firing. Turning your back means you're dead. Make your goal putting as much damage and hurt on them as possible. Sometimes that turns into a kill, even when you started with just a sliver of health.

People underestimate what a low health mech can do. It isn't prey, it's a wounded predator.
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There are some very talented players that I pray I don't come across capable of taking me from full health to dead while they only have a sliver of health.

 

I call the move the buzz kill because that's what it feels like and the nasty scoutses and infiltrators are able to perform  it with exact precision and they remind me of insects.

 

I think it's an air dodge left, land a heat canon or grenade combined with a tow, land, forward thrust out. 

 

It all happens in what appears to be half a second and I just can't come close to duplicating it.  Is it possible someone has crafted a macro to allow them to be so precise?

 

Give me a hand here, how is this done?

 

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Holy fuzzy bunny its legs are attached like pinwheels.

 

Yes, piloting an A class well is exactly like this.


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What caps a buzz kill imo is a well placed MUAHAHAHA after said havoc has been reeked.


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