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its like going from 240p to blueray. the difference in quality is so massive that you can never go back. after getting a 144hz monitor i can no longer enjoy garbage 24fps movies in theaters anymore. whenever the camera pans over a scene i just want to vomit and slit my throat. i pitty those that have not seen the light

 

same can be said about g-sync as well


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Just out of curiosity, are on on Windows 10 now?

 

I used to stay capped at my manual ini's cap of 120 FPS (use it with low persistence monitor instead of 144 Hz) back on Windows 7, but now things get really shitty for me, down to 60-50 FPS when 3-4 people are fighting in front of me, especially on maps like bazaar.  Apparently Windows 10 did away with proper DX9 and 10, and all the old instructions are being interpreted before being rendered, leading to a massive performance loss.

 

DX12 might run great, but there's not many DX12 games out yet, and I'm pretty sure all my older games have taken a hit since "upgrading".  I otherwise like Windows 10, and I won't be rolling back, but it just sucks that my framerates are so unstable now :/

 

I have tried so many things to get my fps up and stable since I installed Win10.  I used to get a solid 122fps with Win7, now I only see that in garage or sitting still on most maps.  Get into the action and I had it drop as low as 35fps.  It looked more like Borderlands than Hawken!  

 

I used DDU, did a clean install of an older Nvidia driver, didn't install GeForce Experience (since it gave me issues in Win10 anyway - found out the installed shortcuts just don't work), changed settings in game and in the Nvidia control panel, adjusted Steam settings and even tried a Steam reset, etc.  Somewhere in one of those steps, I managed to get it to not drop below 50fps and for most maps I'll still get between 70-90fps in battle and I can get 90+ if I'm just walking around.  

 

I'm with you though, not about to go back to Win7 now (not that I necessarily prefer Win10) so I guess I'll just live with it.  Boo.


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I have similar frustrations with moving to w10 pro as you. But with my recent hardware upgrades :smile:  (new pc build)  that may have compensated for some of the, what I feel are,  shortcomings of W10.

 

My max fps are high (122, running most video setting on high) and rarely dip below 100 during intense sequences. I upgraded from Vista x64 Ultimate (was on it for a long time) directly to 10. But I also have a brand new copy of W7 pro, been sitting in my closet for some time,  that I've had the urge to replace 10 with. I just don't like the format of 10 and how one has to navigate it (sucks), even over Vista which is basically a previous version of W7....not to mention how MS handles it's updates for 10 :pinch: 

 

I'm sticking with it though....I feel MS should be paying me to use it. 


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I'm down with my 42.0 fps, no need to get higher.


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I'm down with my 42.0 fps, no need to get higher.

 

I would be happy if I could pull this is as well....


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I have similar frustrations with moving to w10 pro as you. But with my recent hardware upgrades :smile:  (new pc build)  that may have compensated for some of the, what I feel are,  shortcomings of W10.

 

My max fps are high (122, running most video setting on high) and rarely dip below 100 during intense sequences. 

 

Yeah, I upgraded my rig a year ago (i5-4690k, 16GB RAM, GTX970, etc.) and run everything per Nvidia's "optimized" recommendations (which is like, Ultra with PhysX, etc.)  So, I guess I really shouldn't complain.  It's just frustrating that I could run the same settings in Win7 with much better and much more consistent results.  

 

But whatever.  At least l can still play Hawken, so... good enough, I guess.  :D  



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Yeah, I upgraded my rig a year ago (i5-4690k, 16GB RAM, GTX970, etc.) and run everything per Nvidia's "optimized" recommendations (which is like, Ultra with PhysX, etc.)  So, I guess I really shouldn't complain.  It's just frustrating that I could run the same settings in Win7 with much better and much more consistent results.  

 

But whatever.  At least l can still play Hawken, so... good enough, I guess.  :D  

 

That was the thing I understood to be with w10...that it would be able to run games smoother and more efficient than W7 but that isn't necessarily the case here.

 

Your hardware specs are very good but maybe try turning down the graphic settings from ultra to high and disengage the physX (even if you have a dedicated physX card)....that might give your frame rates a bit more consistency at higher fps....and of course one has to figure in the type of monitor they're using. 

 

I do feel your frustration with w10...not just with gaming performance but how it functions in general....It's as though MS built this in a centrifuge machine and this is the end result.... chaos and confusion.

 

But...have a good day Honey :)     


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That was the thing I understood to be with w10...that it would be able to run games smoother and more efficient than W7 but that isn't necessarily the case here.

 

Your hardware specs are very good but maybe try turning down the graphic settings from ultra to high and disengage the physX (even if you have a dedicated physX card)....that might give your frame rates a bit more consistency at higher fps....and of course one has to figure in the type of monitor they're using. 

 

I do feel your frustration with w10...not just with gaming performance but how it functions in general....It's as though MS built this in a centrifuge machine and this is the end result.... chaos and confusion.

 

But...have a good day Honey :)     

 

Thanks, Diesel.  I'll see if it makes much of a difference by changing the settings.  

 

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I'm down with my 42.0 fps, no need to get higher.

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forgot to mention this too. just in case this helps anyone. might get a little more fps

 

 

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I run 40 fps(30 on wreckage/bazar) with dips to 20 (worse on W/B) in combat with plastic hawken, In summary, i hate all of you.


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My fps flat-lines at 40, with very little change except for Last Eco and Test Arena(less and more, respectively). 


 

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I usually run at  a near constant 244fps but I also have completely limited the majority of my graphics settings. I like it while sniping because at 60 vs 144 vs 244 I feel a complete difference in the motion. I think the importance is having consistent frames. A frame drop feels like a ping spike while sniping. So I guess you could adjust to any number. But having 144 vs 60 is completely different for me. 

 

Now trying to maintain 144 with full settings, might be a very difficult task!



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This thread inspired me to purchase a 144hz g-sync monitor. I'm sitting in front of it now, and I don't regret a damn thing.


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This thread inspired me to purchase a 144hz g-sync monitor. I'm sitting in front of it now, and I don't regret a damn thing.

I'm getting the acer 165hz monitor when it gets a little cheaper, which one did you get?



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The Philips 27" 272G5DYEB. I really, really like it.

 

I did a quick experiment to show my fiancee why I wanted this monitor: I opened up a webpage that was mostly black and began rapidly moving my mouse over it in a circle on my 60hz monitor. At any given moment in time I feel like I can "see" 11 or 12 cursors appearing in that circle. I then moved my mouse over to the 144hz monitor, opened up a black webpage, and did the same thing. Bam, 30ish cursors visible at any given moment. I then moved on to explaining dropped frames, tearing, input lag, all that stuff. She seemed to get the concept but couldn't feign interest if her life depended on it.


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they also said they had on good authority Hawken was bought for $30,000.00 and is being ported to UE4


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The Philips 27" 272G5DYEB. I really, really like it.

 

I did a quick experiment to show my fiancee why I wanted this monitor: I opened up a webpage that was mostly black and began rapidly moving my mouse over it in a circle on my 60hz monitor. At any given moment in time I feel like I can "see" 11 or 12 cursors appearing in that circle. I then moved my mouse over to the 144hz monitor, opened up a black webpage, and did the same thing. Bam, 30ish cursors visible at any given moment. I then moved on to explaining dropped frames, tearing, input lag, all that stuff. She seemed to get the concept but couldn't feign interest if her life depended on it.

You bought the monitor to "enjoy the images and videos of her in higher quality. What price can you put on that sweetheart?". The fact it is needed for gaming is merely coincidence.


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You bought the monitor to "enjoy the images and videos of her in higher quality. What price can you put on that sweetheart?". The fact it is needed for gaming is merely coincidence.

I don't think that would fly with my girlfriend.


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I currently have a 27" monitor that runs at 120hz with a 1ms response time that works very nice.  I just changed video cards from an ASUS R9 290x (btw great card,has run really well for the last 2.3 yrs) to a Nvida MSI 980ti Golden Edition, just arrived yesterday, yet to be installed....

 

I will miss that 290x, it's still a beast of gpu. Only downside besides power consumption was the price I paid. It was at the peak of the Bit-coin mania BS where AMD prices were greatly over inflated due to people snapping up all the card inventory and retailers and e-tailers price gouging,  putting overpriced premiums on them....That left a really sour taste in my mouth.  

 

I'm actually, after discounts and rebates, paying less for the new card than the 290x from over 2 years ago. 

 

So, with the recent change in gpu's, my next and hopefully final move, would be going to a 144hz g-sync monitor in the 28-30" variety and see what kind of results that gives in terms of performance.

 

As for player skill, well no matter the hardware,  I'm on my own there.


Edited by DieselCat, 07 May 2016 - 09:13 AM.

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 I just changed video cards from an ASUS R9 290x (btw great card,has run really well for the last 2.3 yrs) to a Nvida MSI 980ti Golden Edition, just arrived yesterday, yet to be installed....

 

Quickly! Return it and stick with your 290 for a few more weeks. Then spend that money on a card that will make your pants tight.

 

More info here and here.


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Looks like I get a new card at the end of the month.  My 770Ti is not rendering certain maps well at 144Hz.


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Quickly! Return it and stick with your 290 for a few more weeks. Then spend that money on a card that will make your pants tight.

 

More info here and here.

Haha...I thought about that but the difference in price would have been more than I would care to spend...heck, this was more than I cared to spend....just ask my wife !

 

Though after taking out the 290x I'm so sad...it's such a beauty of a card, all metal parts, jet black with an awesome looking BP...will be hard to let it go.


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