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Hi Boys&Girls,

 

iam not playing this game for a long time now, because of obv. reasons and just sometimes want to know what is new or talked about in a good manner, but seriously, don't spam the forum and make them work for odds and ends!!

 

Its really easy and not so hard to understand

 

1. the old devs lied about progress for a long time

2. reloaded took this game over in a bad situation, with bad coding and hurted community

3. after they took hawken over, they needed to make plans, interview people, making a new team to develop "new" things, this needs a lot of time

4. of course in this state, they have not a team, and when its done, it will be small, because the game, progress and cashincoming needs to be approved first by the heads, before they can do really exiting stuff

 

So, what you need now is patience, wait for 2016 and things will maybe roll out for a better future. Until then its wait&see whats happening and play the game like it is now and be happy for that time or leave and wait. Just let them work and don't spam the forum.

 

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2016? That's in less than two months. 

 

Realistically Q2-3 2017 official release.

 

But oh dear, Star Citizen will be faster, guess I never have to play HWK again. Reloaded has not chance to get this game to a state where it would use its potential it had had back in closed beta. 

The skill demand was crushed, the difficulty made to PvE level and the balancing was thrown so far away, that it left the solar system where Illal or whatever this god damn forsaken planet of HWK is called.

 

Josh said it is here to stay. And that's about it.


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But oh dear, Star Citizen will be faster

From what I`ve been told it is more likely we get to hear about Half-Life 3 than Star Citizen getting to where their ambitious goals was originally.


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Can I keep my hope pls?


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so...i guess now wouldn't be the time for them to propose a redux of the Vanguard Initiative...

 

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So, what you need now is patience, wait for 2016 and things will maybe roll out for a better future. Until then its wait&see whats happening and play the game like it is now and be happy for that time or leave and wait.

 

Yah, it's not like we've already been waiting over a year. If Capt pops up in a thread with a Itsworththewait.gif, i'm going to punch a baby.

 

If they don't want us to talk about random **** in the forums maybe they should give us something to talk about.


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I do mostly agree on that the OP says above.

 

Be patient. Things are going the right way.

 

It was really a terrible feeling 1 year ago when the game had no devs and nobody certainly knew on whther the servers to play the game online were about to go offline or not. At least that was my personal feeling about this unique game..

 

Pressing the devs with mostly useless material in here is not gonna help at all. Things go well, IMHO. It's just a matter of time and while I'm writting this stuff we all know that there's a team taking care of our beloved game; HAWKEN.

 

I had to say that. ;) =)


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People do forget that Hawken was raised from the dead actually,close your eyes and imagine few months before reloaded took over,what was your thoughts about hawken?At some point even i believed that it was over,Now we have someone work so we can still play,patience people,you all knew that this game is great but broken at some point,can we give some time to Reloaded to work now and fix?



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But oh dear, Star Citizen will be faster, guess I never have to play HWK again.

Good bye, have fun! GG no re.

 

Are you shooting Grenadier/Incinerator projectiles across the map and hit/kill someone else on the other side with it?

Are you blocking tows with cars/tanks/objects lying on the ground in maps by boosting into them and making them fly around?

 

No?

Skill ceiling?

Sky is the limit.


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HAHAHAHAHAH good intent!

 

but I will say the current reality..... Reloaded is infamous for buying games and squeezeeeeeeeEEeeee all the money they can without investing in new content and when this game is not profitable will be discarded in the trash so do not have much hope for a better future..... perhaps only maintain the online servers  and occasional maintenance, also a small gift for the ignorant masses keep quiet and also they are trying to sell merchandise.

 

BUT DO NOT WORRY! dream still free!


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@MAZ3 go away pls.

I'm sorry to destroy your hopes and dreams with the reality of the current situation but as I said you have every right to dream and fantasize :rolleyes:


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but I will say the current reality..... Reloaded is infamous for buying games and squeezeeeeeeeEEeeee all the money they can without investing in new content and when this game is not profitable will be discarded in the trash so do not have much hope for a better future..... perhaps only maintain the online servers  and occasional maintenance, also a small gift for the ignorant masses keep quiet and also they are trying to sell merchandise.

There isn't any money to squeeze out of Hawken, they have to bring new content to get money. Also, I can almost guarantee that this game is already not profitable and they knew that going in. At best it's breaking even.


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There isn't any money to squeeze out of Hawken, they have to bring new content to get money. Also, I can almost guarantee that this game is already not profitable and they knew that going in. At best it's breaking even.

What would be the reason to buy Hawken in the first place? As a business they want profit. They're not doing it for charity and there's not enough publicity gain in resurrection Hawken to do it as a publicity stunt.

As you said, they have to bring content to get money. 

That doesn't mean Hawken won't end like MAZ3 described but they have to bring content first that's good enough to attract a huge crowd.



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I'm sorry to destroy your hopes and dreams with the reality of the current situation but as I said you have every right to dream and fantasize :rolleyes:

As you,can only speculate.Cause as i said just above,few months ago hawken didnt had any future,now its unknown but at least it has one.I dont care what you say,till now Reloaded(speaking only for hawken dev team) is trying to fix this damn game.People are just too impatient,it takes some time u know..


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I repeat: I'm sorry to destroy your hopes and dreams

but to be honest Reloaded has bad history...... it's true: they save games but in exchange for a great price... they do not tend to add new content and only limited to squeeze money until the game collapses.

anyway if you will take a moment to investigate on the internet There is a lot of information from them, my really catches my attention the industrial quantities of complaints from their customers reaching be exaggerated.

in short .... I see a hope but it is far from being a brilliant future


Edited by MAZ3, 06 November 2015 - 06:42 AM.

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Oh it's this time of year again already?

 

HAHAHAHAHAH good intent!

 

but I will say the current reality..... Reloaded is infamous for buying games and squeezeeeeeeeEEeeee all the money they can without investing in new content and when this game is not profitable will be discarded in the trash so do not have much hope for a better future

#herkenisdead

I repeat: I'm sorry to destroy your hopes and dreams

but to be honest Reloaded has bad history...... it's true: they save games but in exchange for a great price... they do not tend to add new content and only limited to squeeze money until the game collapses.

#wealreadysurvivedacollapse

As you,can only speculate.Cause as i said just above,few months ago hawken didnt had any future,now its unknown but at least it has one

This.

Even if nothing new gets implemented we at least can play. Within and after the great silence there wasn't any content added either, but it was uncertain if the servers shut down or not. Now at least, they won't be shut down.

 

It's an improvement.

And now I suggest you go and play the game instead of posting doomsday prophecies in these forums.

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Ro-Bros, feel confident that in the future things will happen. No sense in wasting your time stripping your gears on what if's. Let the devs do their thing then make judgement on the changes when they actually happen. In the mean time, sharpen your aim and build up your HC reserve for whatever potential goodies that are on the way. Christmas is right around the corner.
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iam not playing this game for a long time now, because of obv. reasons

Why? I mean, why u stop playing. You play in this game several years while Nothing changed. Why stop? It is actually "a little" stupid reason.

And you actually posted a "peep peep peep" topic right now ^_^

I mean, hawken it is like a quake3. It is good game, and people play in Q3 not because they wanted change something. I hope u understand me correct...

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dream still free! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

................ for now :v


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But oh dear, Star Citizen will be faster, guess I never have to play HWK again. Reloaded has not chance to get this game to a state where it would use its potential it had had back in closed beta. 

The skill demand was crushed, the difficulty made to PvE level and the balancing was thrown so far away, that it left the solar system where Illal or whatever this god damn forsaken planet of HWK is called.

 

Josh said it is here to stay. And that's about it.

 

I don't know why the previous devs, and the current devs (so far) were/are so deadset against doing something like hybridizing Hawken's current polish and fixes with the resource mechanics and numbers of earliest beta. If new player retention is their biggest issue, then the solution already once existed. Earliest beta was the version players of all skill levels could enjoy and want to spend money on.

 

I know I wanted to spend money on it, and I got the Vanguard Initiative package. But would I buy a Vanguard Initiative package for current Hawken? No way.


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Earliest beta was the version players of all skill levels could enjoy and want to spend money on.

 

But would I buy a Vanguard Initiative package for current Hawken? No way.

 

The problem I see with your comment is the new Devs have no frame of reference to what Alpha, Closed Beta, and Open Beta pre Ascension were like.  They never played it then and I doubt they have any working builds of the old versions so they could actually test and play it, and see what it was like.  Plus, the new people that have stuck around and joined since Ascension probably wouldn't enjoy the old Hawken, they'd find it too different.

 

And really even if they did revert all the changes would people that left the game really come back almost 2 years after they left it?  I certainly don't think so.  Those people have moved on to other games.  Thats where the crux of the problem lies, you can't rely on bringing all those people back.


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The problem I see with your comment is the new Devs have no frame of reference to what Alpha, Closed Beta, and Open Beta pre Ascension were like.  They never played it then and I doubt they have any working builds of the old versions so they could actually test and play it, and see what it was like.  Plus, the new people that have stuck around and joined since Ascension probably wouldn't enjoy the old Hawken, they'd find it too different.

 

And really even if they did revert all the changes would people that left the game really come back almost 2 years after they left it?  I certainly don't think so.  Those people have moved on to other games.  Thats where the crux of the problem lies, you can't rely on bringing all those people back.

 

i'm of the opinion that for Hawken to be successful significant changes need to be made, those changes will upset the majority of the existing community. And at this point taking feedback / advice from the current Hawken forum echo chamber is no longer conducive to a Hawken with future financial success. 


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I don't know why the previous devs, and the current devs (so far) were/are so deadset against doing something like hybridizing Hawken's current polish and fixes with the resource mechanics and numbers of earliest beta. If new player retention is their biggest issue, then the solution already once existed. Earliest beta was the version players of all skill levels could enjoy and want to spend money on.

 

I know I wanted to spend money on it, and I got the Vanguard Initiative package. But would I buy a Vanguard Initiative package for current Hawken? No way.

 

The problem is Reloaded is incredible slow. I mean, really slow. They got here without any preprerations and now they are in the stage where they have to hire the team and after months they are not finished yet.

Josh also officially stated he wants to approach things slowly which I highly citicize, time is something Hawken doesn't have anymore, it got wasted by ADH.

I mean, when will HWK be officially released? When UE 5 comes out? UE 4 is already in use for new games and I have to say it looks very nice, however, HWK uses UE 3 which isn't a bad engine but an outdated one. So graphic wise (which was one of HWK's originally aim: Providing good graphics) the ga me will not be able to compete in the very near future. 

HWK has to archieve success with gameplay rather than graphic and we all know that the current gameplay is arbitrary dumb. 

 

But gosh what am I doing here right now? I said it previously aaaaall the time to ADH, they wouldn't listen (sure, who would listen to someone who has a 'bad' reputation xd) and look where we are now. That Reloaded rescued HWK was just pure luck. 

ADH failed with Hawken and I said that a long time before that happened (that doesn't mean they did some good things as well, but the failures overweightened the successes by far).


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Would it be that bad to just give some time to the new Devs to work?They are few in numbers yet,its ok things to go slow.Enough of the drama people,Noone is forcing you to stay here,but yet u are here,we all love Hawken and want this game to succeed,get of that bloody "beta" tag to full realese,bugs fixed,new maps/mechs.Care to w8?Some of us are w8ing for quite a long time,and we are still here,why?BECAUSE ITS HAWKEN,and there is nothing else similar to play,its the game we all loved.Take a break if you need,but plz stop whining,we all knew we will not have anything new till 2016.Enjoy the game,we still can!



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Ro-Bros, feel confident that in the future things will happen. No sense in wasting your time stripping your gears on what if's. Let the devs do their thing then make judgement on the changes when they actually happen. In the mean time, sharpen your aim and build up your HC reserve for whatever potential goodies that are on the way. Christmas is right around the corner.

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peep peep peep THX

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Edited by Sorroritas, 07 November 2015 - 03:57 PM.

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they save games but in exchange for a great price... they do not tend to add new content and only limited to squeeze money until the game collapses.

 

I don't know anything about Reloaded's track record. But even if the long term goal for Hawken is nothing more than making it juuuuust profitable enough to immediately dump it into maintenance mode, I still have some confidence in a Hawken like that turning out to be an acceptable product. I don't see why Reloaded wouldn't have at least some idea of the train wreck they were buying, and the tons of work they would need to do to make Hawken even "barely acceptable" levels of quality and profitability.

 

Currently, Reloaded can't count on new players. Most don't last more than three days. They can't count on the die-hard players who would be "whales" either. Those die-hards probably already unlocked/maxed out everything and stockpiled enough HC to last at least ten content patches. Nothing less than a quality product that's easy to pick up, yet challenging to master, can bring Hawken back from the brink of obscurity.


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I don't know anything about Reloaded's track record. But even if the long term goal for Hawken is nothing more than making it juuuuust profitable enough to immediately dump it into maintenance mode, I still have some confidence in a Hawken like that turning out to be an acceptable product. I don't see why Reloaded wouldn't have at least some idea of the train wreck they were buying, and the tons of work they would need to do to make Hawken even "barely acceptable" levels of quality and profitability.

 

Currently, Reloaded can't count on new players. Most don't last more than three days. They can't count on the die-hard players who would be "whales" either. Those die-hards probably already unlocked/maxed out everything and stockpiled enough HC to last at least ten content patches. Nothing less than a quality product that's easy to pick up, yet challenging to master, can bring Hawken back from the brink of obscurity.

 

There's these, just add Hawken in to make three:

 

http://store.steampo...com/app/113400/

 

http://store.steampo...com/app/113420/

 

Reloaded is going to have to give people a reason to stay, new QUALITY content is a start, stable servers with good hit reg. is another factor.  They're going to have to make a decision on how to handle Hawken's MM and auto-balance if they even keep them.  They're also going to have to figure out if the die-hard super good Hawken players are cannibalizing the player base and if so how they're going to stop it, or at least why people generally don't stick around.


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Hi Boys&Girls,

iam not playing this game for a long time now, because of obv. reasons and just sometimes want to know what is new or talked about in a good manner, but seriously, don't spam the forum and make them work for odds and ends!!

Its really easy and not so hard to understand

1. the old devs lied about progress for a long time
2. reloaded took this game over in a bad situation, with bad coding and hurted community
3. after they took hawken over, they needed to make plans, interview people, making a new team to develop "new" things, this needs a lot of time
4. of course in this state, they have not a team, and when its done, it will be small, because the game, progress and cashincoming needs to be approved first by the heads, before they can do really exiting stuff

So, what you need now is patience, wait for 2016 and things will maybe roll out for a better future. Until then its wait&see whats happening and play the game like it is now and be happy for that time or leave and wait. Just let them work and don't spam the forum.

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That's all well and good, but history seems to be repeating itself. All I can say is I'm glad HAWKEN and APB still exist, but they really need to stop putting out roadmaps that they know they can't stick to. The Engine update for APB was slated for August. We've heard nothing about it since August came and went. Literally nothing.

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