Why do so few people play deathmatch? I think it is far and away the best gamemode.
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Why do so few people play deathmatch? I think it is far and away the best gamemode.
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No idea. Who wouldn't want to be limited to the handful of mechs that are good in DM to circle around the map looking for soon to be dead players only to be violated in the bum by another player when your low on health. Bum violation is the best part of DM. Uptown best town.
Edited by Sylhiri, 26 July 2015 - 02:44 PM.
DM is the best M, and I violate. Repeatedly, and reliably.
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Because people don't like to repeatedly get stomped. When the team with the same 2 or 3 good players continues to win matches back-to-back, TDM gives the illusion of parity by mixing team members. The group-chemistry also helps to mask the sense of getting owned by 1 specific person. In DM, if one person outclasses the rest, it's apparent and everyone sees it. Most people don't like to continually be reminded of their comparative lack of skill. Most players play casually to have a good time, not put in serious effort in winning. TDM is the best for that, and in that sense DM is actually the least desirable mode.
Edited by spinningchurro, 26 July 2015 - 03:18 PM.
Most players play casually to have a good time, not put in serious effort in winning.
cuz most players are fuzzy bunny lolz
DM is best. Why not everyone come out and DM in a few?
Also it's the best becausr you never ever feel like you need to carry or like you were weighted down. It's a stilted split between you and good old chance, but I enjoy that a lot. Plus there's something sublime about almost getting killed by a guy, then handing him off to someone else who wanted to chase you like Bugs handing Daffy off to Elmer Fudd, and repairing while you munch on a carrot/cigar Jack Benny style.
Edited by cosmic_spand, 26 July 2015 - 04:39 PM.
DM is best. Why not everyone come out and DM in a few?
Also it's the best becausr you never ever feel like you need to carry or like you were weighted down. It's a stilted split between you and good old chance, but I enjoy that a lot. Plus there's something sublime about almost getting killed by a guy, then handing him off to someone else who wanted to chase you like Bugs handing Daffy off to Elmer Fudd, and repairing while you munch on a carrot/cigar Jack Benny style.
This is certainly the advantage of the mode, and when I feel like a DM this is largely why.
But what everyone else is saying is true too - Aside from one or two maps, scout is god and so unless you get in one of those maps, a desire to play DM often has to sync with a desire to play scout.
This is certainly the advantage of the mode, and when I feel like a DM this is largely why.
But what everyone else is saying is true too - Aside from one or two maps, scout is god and so unless you get in one of those maps, a desire to play DM often has to sync with a desire to play scout.
Or Zerk, or infil, or brawler, or gren, or assault, or pred, or raider. Hell, Dew wins regularly with an incin. Or git gud with scout. Best thing I ever did in this game, though a month or two of being a Space(bar) Cadet in a zerk makes me dance like I have 2 left feet in a scoot anymore.
If you can win a DM, you can carry a team.
Edited by cosmic_spand, 26 July 2015 - 04:49 PM.
Edited by (KDR) Meraple, 26 July 2015 - 04:56 PM.
Haha must be a EU thing. As for US nobody has the balls to play a C-class except for a few people because when two A's are duking it out, they will turn to a C-class just entering the fray and dispatch them as a team almost every time just as an instinctive move. They don't even consider that the person they were just fighting is distracted and is easier prey now. They just do it and it's extraordinarily frustrating for anyone not wanting to play an A-class in a DM.
The DMs I've been in that were populated by good players were dominated by C classes, mainly Hawkins Brawler and a bit of Vulgren/MF Van.
A classes weren't very successful, so people usually switched to C's after a while.
I personally prefer dueling to regular DM.
I run C's on Wreckage, Uptown and sometimes Bunker depending on the comp, but every other map seems to favour B's and A's
Get tied, I run Scout or Assault on every map and do well in DM.
Scout because I like it, not because "It's OP".
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You should call me Luna.
death match is best match. some pro tips.
- stay away from the center of any map. rotate in a circle and look for fights.
- dont start a fight unless you get the drop on somebody.
- dont stay in one spot too long. keep moving. if you fire your gun just assume everyone on the map saw it.
- you dont HAVE to stay in a fight. alot of the time the smartest thing to do is just run. denying the other guy points just helps you in the long run.
- if you are in a c-class and make an a-class run away with low health just dont even bother chasing. your wasting your time. heal and move onto the next fight.
- scout is seen as the best DM mech. while it certainly has advantages over other mechs in this particular game mode its only gets worse when people dont understand that you dont HAVE to fight. defensive play is king in hawken. if you see that a class drop an orb then why are you fighting? just leave the fight and then it doesnt matter
America
Head for two dots (or more) fighting. Kill them both if you can, or the survivor if you get there late.
Move to where you can get the first secondary-weapon shot in.
NEVER let two enemies shoot at you at once (like Hest said, stick to the outside of the map, not a center killing area).
Don't show on Radar, unless you can get the first secondary-weapon shot in.
Rinse, repeat.
Did I say Call Me Ishmael?
You should call me Luna.
I like going against the best of any game I play. Helps you in the long run n motivates u to do more. Always room for improvement not failure

FIRST OFF WHAT THE FUZZ IS A "SHILL"
DM: Best mode.
Why noone plays it: Because you have no team (and so need skill)
Additional reason: MMR restrictions.
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Why do so few people play deathmatch? I think it is far and away the best gamemode.
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I don't like the concept of DM. I've only played it twice. Once by randomness and once by a party invite I misread.
Because people don't like to repeatedly get stomped. When the team with the same 2 or 3 good players continues to win matches back-to-back, TDM gives the illusion of parity by mixing team members. The group-chemistry also helps to mask the sense of getting owned by 1 specific person. In DM, if one person outclasses the rest, it's apparent and everyone sees it. Most people don't like to continually be reminded of their comparative lack of skill. Most players play casually to have a good time, not put in serious effort in winning. TDM is the best for that, and in that sense DM is actually the least desirable mode.
Exactly this.
The people who like DM are the people who win DM. It's just super competitive in DM. You're not going to win or have fun unless you're the best. (by definition of the game only having one winner) For most people, they are never even close to winning so their effort is not being rewarded like it is with another gametype.
Nobody has said this yet but you can "cheat" pretty easily in DM if you simply get a friend to join and work together instead of competing. It can backfire if you both suck compared to the guy wrecking everyone but if you coordinate well you have an advantage in a 2v1. Nobody probably does this on account of how desperate DMers are just to get any person to play with (and lose to) them.
Why isn't this topic about Missile Assault? It's my favorite game mode in Hawken that nobody will play and fewer people will play for more than one round to get their daily HC.
Edited by So_Say_We_All, 27 July 2015 - 12:30 AM.
death match is best match. some pro tips.
- stay away from the center of any map. rotate in a circle and look for fights.
- dont start a fight unless you get the drop on somebody.
- dont stay in one spot too long. keep moving. if you fire your gun just assume everyone on the map saw it.
- you dont HAVE to stay in a fight. alot of the time the smartest thing to do is just run. denying the other guy points just helps you in the long run.
- if you are in a c-class and make an a-class run away with low health just dont even bother chasing. your wasting your time. heal and move onto the next fight.
- scout is seen as the best DM mech. while it certainly has advantages over other mechs in this particular game mode its only gets worse when people dont understand that you dont HAVE to fight. defensive play is king in hawken. if you see that a class drop an orb then why are you fighting? just leave the fight and then it doesnt matter
America

siege is the best
Edited by CounterlogicMan, 27 July 2015 - 01:44 AM.
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death match is best match. some Noob tips.
Go SS and climb on the roof than shoot shoot .
Why do so few people play deathmatch? I think it is far and away the best gamemode.
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I believe it is because most players (including myself) are TERRIBLE at dueling just 1v1.
What if we just give some bacon paint, some bacon holo-emotes and change Bunker from snow to bacon.
This way, everyone will be happy.
What you should really do, is replace your parts with bacon, so you can cook games and eat bacon
Obviously the wallpaper would be cooler if bacon was incorporated into it.
I believe it is because most players (including myself) are TERRIBLE at dueling just 1v1.
siege is the best
This is flat out wrong.
Although I don't like missile assault and TDM as much as DM, I avoid seige like the plague.
The way matchmaking works doesn't help seige, and seige itself with the current maps is really imbalanced.
I don't play Deathmatch because of a lot of reasons that have already been pointed out - the biggest of which are:
It's just not fun in any of the above situations, so I don't play.
AND BESIDES: Deathmatch gets way, WAY more attention and players than Missile Assault. It even has more than Siege.
Edited by StubbornPuppet, 27 July 2015 - 07:19 AM.
To be serious for a moment this is just a joke
Every other DM match ends up being 2 or 3 players who have decided to become a "team" and not kill each other - instead they hunt the other players as a pack and take turns getting the kill.
Sorry that you're getting put up against such ass-hats.
AND BESIDES: Deathmatch gets way, WAY more attention and players than Missile Assault. It even has more than Siege.
False. There aren't even as many DM servers as there are Siege servers and they are usually all empty while large chunks of Siege servers are taken up regularly. Check it, even now.
Repetitive. Gets on my nerves. I'm weak-hearted. I hate being constantly on the lookout.
I suck at it.


My bad then. I suppose it's my perception that there is more DM, because I can always find a DM match with room for players on the list, but usually have to wait for a Siege match to become available.
To be serious for a moment this is just a joke
My bad then. I suppose it's my perception that there is more DM, because I can always find a DM match with room for players on the list, but usually have to wait for a Siege match to become available.
That's unfortunately likely an artifact of your MMR placement. I can never find a DM unless it's Sunday or I specifically create one and I am bombarded by SG requests on the regular.
Deathmatch best match! Nothing gets the blood pumping and the adrenaline flowing like prowling around a map, music off to listen for mech steps, searching for your prey. Eye of the tiger. Every man for himself. Often times DM games for me end up being 1v1 so that's always cool too, just your skill vs the enemies skill. Guess that makes it like this "dueling" everyone is talking about.
But there are a lot of reasons why DM is not always the funnest for me. For one, the servers are rare, and when you do jump in one, often times its like 6 minutes into the game and someone already has a score of 120+ or something, making winning impossible, which is a bit lame. Or some asshat is using a scanner. This is just bad form, I expect players at my level and beyond to be above this nonsense (this item needs to die). Big differences in skill can also make playing not super fun. I like playing against people who are a bit above my skill level, especially if they are helpful, it can be a great learning experience. But when certain players that are like ~400 mmr above you play nothing but DM and like to stomp n00bs like myself without offering even the slightest bit of advice, I can get tired of dm pretty quick.
Edited by Morquedeas, 28 July 2015 - 02:40 AM.
I offer advice. A lot of times, people don't want to hear it, convinced that they're really not that much worse than me and if they were just a little luckier...
Did I say Call Me Ishmael?
You should call me Luna.
I play in DM mode every chance I can get. Turn on some good background music, just relax and have fun.
If you win or lose, there's no one to blame but yourself. If you believe otherwise, then you're delusional. Some of it is luck, but the rest is all you.
P.S.
hestoned hit the nail on the head with his protips.
- stay away from the center of any map. rotate in a circle and look for fights.
- dont start a fight unless you get the drop on somebody.
- dont stay in one spot too long. keep moving. if you fire your gun just assume everyone on the map saw it.
- you dont HAVE to stay in a fight. alot of the time the smartest thing to do is just run. denying the other guy points just helps you in the long run.
- if you are in a c-class and make an a-class run away with low health just dont even bother chasing. your wasting your time. heal and move onto the next fight.
- scout is seen as the best DM mech. ... defensive play is king in hawken. if you see that a class drop an orb then why are you fighting? just leave the fight and then it doesnt matter
America
Like numerous other people have mentioned above me;
Nobody likes winning a fight, being on low HP, having some cheeky bugger poke their head round the corner and finish them with a TOW.
It sucks and generally the person who was the best vulture wins the game.
Edited by Sp0oktre, 28 July 2015 - 07:23 AM.

Did I say Call Me Ishmael?
You should call me Luna.
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