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Just wondering.



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Like a eoc repeater or a preds mines?
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This thing happened and I didn't like it and couldn't understand it, so I immediately thought someone might be hacking/exploiting and made a thread about it.


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Funny, but unnecessary, Pumpaw. ?


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Just asking a simple question.



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Just asking a simple question.

Yes, it is normal to be able to toss mines across the entire map

 

(however number of mines is limited, unless all enemy using mine launcher)


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It virtually isnt, dude - at least not on a lager scale - until a very special case occurs. Few dayz ago i joined a starting TDM as Predator with 2 others playing the Pred as well. Although we didn't knew each other, we kept 2gether almost whole matchtime pretty well, and really FLOODED some areas of Frontline with mines so much, the hit indicator was ticking ceaseless all the time. To my surprise, the enemy team, with 1 player more than ours, was rarely able 2 catch us, and boosted permanently in2 our minefields, as we retreated all the time. They really died like flies. We also managed 2 "snipe" down enemies instantly ova long ranges by shooting 2gether all EOCs synchronously on a single target a few times. That happened by random, but with spectacular success. At the end our "tactic" 2 spam mines was so devastating - the score difference was around 15 kills. However - it felt like the teams were unbalanced like so often nowadayz, so it wasn't a victory 2 b proud of. However - long speech, lesser thought - yes, it is not "normal", but possible, though i've seen minespamming not so often. I guess, because:

 

  • Predators r generally more difficult 2 play, thus not so "popular"
  • it imposes the Pred pilot a more "unconventional" playstyle and forces him 2 stay uncloaked most of the time
  • many Pred pilots prefer the tactic 2 stay cloaked, until they can ambush damaged enemies from behind
  • minespamming, when done with 2 or more players, might be effective, but can IMHO easily countered by flying enemy Zerkers, backed up by Rockys and/or Grennys.

 

Another point is the practically limitless range the EOCs have, while keeping the damage they do when triggered by an enemy. AFAIK triggered EOC damage is less than direct damage, even lesser if an enemy boosts over it, but also the triggered EOC damage isn't lowered by shooting it at longer ranges, thus compensating 4 its overall lesser damage per shot, and the difficulty 2 land every shot because of its slowness. This, combined with the limitation of 8 EOC Predator mines + (roughly guessed) 12 EOC Repeater mines per match the same time, the actual state of both EOCs looks absolutely reasonable. However - with 3 Predators in the same team it's up 2 60 mines the same time then, and i agree, that this sounds a bit much, but then keep in mind what amount of damage 3 TOWs shot by 3 players onto the same target inflict - not 2 speak of their quickfiring primaries added 2 that - and all their weapons r much easier 2 handle than the Predator's. Mines might b dangerous and annoying, especially when whole carpets of them r laid down, but they have their flaws, too. Only EOC Predator mines remain 4 a long time, but when they were laid the same place as EOC Repeater mines, they all get destoyed, too, as soon as the EOC Repeaters detonate after their short lifespan. All mines get also detroyed if:

 

  • a stupid mate fires in2 them
  • a ricocheted bullet hits 1 of them
  • an explosive weapon hits it
  • 1 of your mines get hit by another 1 you shot

The mines r a very complex subject, and have been discussed many times. Personally, i think they should stay as they r, because actually their advantages outbalance their flaws IMHO, but i've read very opposite opinions about it, too. Even CpnJosh noticed the struggle about them, and mentionend possible changes regarding the mines in future in 1 of the interviews. Let's c what changes the upcoming update will bring us, and hope they r 2 every1's satisfaction.

 

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Tested. EOC repeater salvos have teeny tiny spread. When shot from halfway down the long side of Frontline onto a wall, the grouping is still smaller then that of an A class bounding box. They're listed as having "100% accuracy".

Pred mines have a discretionary lifetime, Completely under the control of the pred that shot them, or the enemy that finds them.

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This thing happened and I didn't like it and couldn't understand it, so I immediately thought someone might be hacking/exploiting and made a thread about it.

 

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I know what you're thinking, did he fire MIRV or only one grenade, but to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But being this is a Corsair - KLA the most powerful secondary in the world, and would blow your cockpit clean off, you gotta ask yourself one question... do I feel lucky ? well do you, punk ? 


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MUAHAHAHAHA !! HOW WISE THE UNMERCIFUL PUCK IS TO NOT SLOPPY SPREAD OVER LONG DISTANCES !!! IS THIS NOT PROOF FELLOW ROBROS OF THE ULTIMATE FURY OF OUR LORD - THE MIGHTY EOC !! EQUIP THE REPEATER TODAY BROTHERS TO INTIMIDATE YEE ENEMIES AT LONG DISTANCES OR LOOO TO CATCH ENEMIES UNAWARE WHILE YOU MAKE YOURSELF A MECH COCKTAIL OR REPAIR IN HIS IMAGE! THE CULT OF EOC ALWAYS PREVAILS !!

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You have to know the personalities involved to really appreciate the forum.

yeah im still new 

 

also noticed that you guys like eachothers comments like a hive mind lol :D


I know what you're thinking, did he fire MIRV or only one grenade, but to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But being this is a Corsair - KLA the most powerful secondary in the world, and would blow your cockpit clean off, you gotta ask yourself one question... do I feel lucky ? well do you, punk ? 


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That scout looks like a flipping predator. Just look at that mouth!

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EDIT: I don't know how to add image of predator. Plz help

 

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It's the icon immediately to the left of the <>. Also good to keep in mind that this forum doesn't allow images from certain websites either. I think.


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Edited by DallasCreeper, 05 January 2016 - 11:13 AM.

 

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