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Things are starting to make a lot of sense now or at least I think so. Since Microsoft has allowed Xbox devs to allow certain games to run across Xbox and Windows 10, it makes total sense as to why we have to wait for the console version to be pushed out first before we'll get to see change on the PC side.
 
This would make Hawken available via the Windows 10 store and allow it to sync up with the Windows 10 Xbox app. When you look at it that way it makes complete sense to focus on consoles since Windows 10 will basically be able to play more and more Xbox games as time goes.
 
I'm guessing Hawken will drop on consoles first then later in the year they'll release the Windows 10 version via the Windows Store to tie it altogether. I think Microsoft isn't letting 3rd party dev's announce the play anywhere feature till later this year (1st party games are to be released with the feature first).
 
Xbox/Windows 10 Play Anywhere :
 
 
Entire Game Guide Redone :
 
 
This would also make sense as to why the game guide has been updated. The game has been entirely re-balanced  (for better or worse) to allow Xbox gamers and PC gamers to play on the same servers (less cost maintaining separate servers I would think) with controllers or mouse/keyboard.
 
In the long run this is the way to keeping Hawken alive not only on PC but on other platforms as well (Xbox, PS4). Doing it in that way would allow the greatest chance for Hawken to survive and start bringing in profit again.
 
What do you think ?


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Cool.

 

Where's our fuzzing content.


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A warm welcome to a new dev team member. I presume these are how the introductions will be like?


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I mean... yeah it makes sense.  I don't think we are really arguing that it doesn't.  We just want to know what was done to our mechs and other balance/gameplay related items. 

 

Updating the game guide makes sense.  The updates described therein do not. 


Edited by (thc)_incitatus, 16 June 2016 - 01:03 PM.


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I think making the game cost a measly $10 would be pretty secure for the amount of publicity that was generated at E3, at least for a while. The game has great reviews and used to have a comparatively massive player base when open beta launched and might have folks return. The game is gorgeous graphics wise and has a relatively good amount of grind content to work towards.

 

I also think that maximizing the amount of aesthetic customization in the game would make it more likely for people to buy cosmetics. For instance not limiting a mech to variations of its starting visual appearance. Plus cosmetics aren't really appealing to players who only play casually. Unless you make the game require more dedication to progress you will lose a good amount of revenue on players who aren't interested in showing off their main mechs and standing out.

 

This is difficult though, because the grind is hard on players. Especially players who aren't used to such a fast paced FPS. That's the real balance I would personally focus on. This game had a cliche count down to death clock over its head on day one, and I don't see it going anywhere. It's been great at cheating death. It's still too niche to be a hit 



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it makes total sense as to why we have to wait for the console version to be pushed out first before we'll get to see change on the PC side.

 
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From Reddit:

 

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I don't think the devs are viewing that as an issue. You can play the game however you like with a mouse/keyboard or controller. The choice is yours. Honestly I've never seen console players complain about being demolished by PC players. Just PC players worried about playing with "noobs".

 

Im not worried about playing with console/controller players. I welcome it.

 

Jose, since you seem knowledgeable:

 

Will Win10 and the Windows Store restrict us to only downloading via a Microsoft ID/username (e.g. someone@outlook.com)?

 

This will tie an identity to the Hawken account, no?

 

 


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Things are starting to make a lot of sense now or at least I think so. Since Microsoft has allowed Xbox devs to allow certain games to run across Xbox and Windows 10, it makes total sense as to why we have to wait for the console version to be pushed out first before we'll get to see change on the PC side.
 
This would make Hawken available via the Windows 10 store and allow it to sync up with the Windows 10 Xbox app. When you look at it that way it makes complete sense to focus on consoles since Windows 10 will basically be able to play more and more Xbox games as time goes.
 
I'm guessing Hawken will drop on consoles first then later in the year they'll release the Windows 10 version via the Windows Store to tie it altogether. I think Microsoft isn't letting 3rd party dev's announce the play anywhere feature till later this year (1st party games are to be released with the feature first).
 
Xbox/Windows 10 Play Anywhere :
 
 
Entire Game Guide Redone :
 
 
This would also make sense as to why the game guide has been updated. The game has been entirely re-balanced  (for better or worse) to allow Xbox gamers and PC gamers to play on the same servers (less cost maintaining separate servers I would think) with controllers or mouse/keyboard.
 
In the long run this is the way to keeping Hawken alive not only on PC but on other platforms as well (Xbox, PS4). Doing it in that way would allow the greatest chance for Hawken to survive and start bringing in profit again.
 
What do you think ?

 

 

As long as Windows 7 remains supported and this update doesn't necessitate a transition to Windows 10, mostly "Meh" because I'm starting to get the feeling that Hawken has been converted from a PC centered game to yet another console port (console to PC).  Which, that's not  really a huge issue provided it's a good port.  And, if Hawken becomes wildly successful on the consoles, the "port" issue would be a non-issue since Reloaded is here to make money first.

 

But, I'm going to wait until an actual patch drops before I make up my mind.



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What about people that don't have or don't care to have Win 10 ? Yeah, I know if one has Win 7,  they are most likely able to do a free upgrade to 10...but there are still many who don't want to...(it's already been stated, W7 is still supported by M$.) and many still prefer it.


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What about people that don't have or don't care to have Win 10 ? Yeah, I know if one has Win 7,  they are most likely able to do a free upgrade to 10...but there are still many who don't want to...(it's already been stated, W7 is still supported by M$.) and many still prefer it.

 

If they drop support for anything older than Windows 10, I personally will be done with this game.  A free re-tread F2P already failed twice unpopular mech game isn't worth an entire OS upgrade to Microsoft spying on you through the Windows 10.



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How will a windows 10 app interact with PS4? The devs have suggested that they want to do cross platform, and it seems odd that they would flat out exclude the PS4 just to drink the Microsoft UWP koolaid.

 

Also to echo the sentiment found elsewhere in this thread: one of the first things I do on my win 10 installs is remove all the bloatware that comes with it, including the windows store and xbox app. If Hawken becomes a windows store exclusive I will simply never have the game installed ever again.

 

What do I think? I think the OP reads like promotional material.


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I have no problem with the console releases, in fact I think it will help the game. The problem is that if the current FTP model remains mostly the same and the terrible progression system was not improved, it doesn't matter where the game goes, it will share the same fate the pc version did. I won't even get into launching with so little content (maps, mechs). It's a minimal investment gamble to turn a profit on Hawken, and hitting the console base could work (60 million install base). The problem, like with any FTP game, it's easy to download and try, and just as easy to uninstall. 


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i found the system stability and performance jump worth moving to w10 from 7, lucky me



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I've had no problems with Windows 10 on either of my systems.


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Windows 10 lol never
That is the only thing that will get me to quit this game forever. Even if the updated pc version sucks I'll prolly still play sometimes but I'm not upgrading my os for a single game, no matter how much I love it.


Maybe a VM..

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I have Windows 10 and I don't think its causing problems, however, I occasionally suffer from freezes that are accompanied by an error message saying something about my display drivers for Windows 8 having stopped working and recovering; but I don't know if it is related to Windows 10. 


 

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windows 10 = NO

 

i mean seriously? you wan to force players to change their entire machine just to play a game that is being murdered by the devs?

 

no thanks... i run windows 7 and that isnt going to change anytime soon


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