Listed "cheese" must be the highest quality merchandise according to the ACS (in case you don't know, that's American Cheese Society)....
Your top 5 "cheese" in Hawken, list it here...
#1
Posted 21 July 2015 - 05:50 AM
#2
Posted 21 July 2015 - 06:02 AM
- Berzerker
- Orb Lord
- Berzerker
- Assault
- Berzerker
edit;
- Berzerker
Edited by neon, 21 July 2015 - 06:02 AM.
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#4
Posted 21 July 2015 - 06:03 AM
#5
Posted 21 July 2015 - 06:05 AM
5. air compressor
4. ac-berserker
3. snipers
2. emp
1. me
edited to include personal distaste of snipers
orblord is love
Edited by (KDR) Meraple, 21 July 2015 - 06:16 AM.
#6
Posted 21 July 2015 - 06:31 AM
#8
Posted 21 July 2015 - 06:36 AM
#9
Posted 21 July 2015 - 06:48 AM
Now are we talking Government cheese?
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ACS is a private organization, you skrub
Edited by shosca, 21 July 2015 - 06:50 AM.
#10
Posted 21 July 2015 - 06:49 AM
My favourite cheese is bread.
Eat bread, you skrub.
Did you say cheese bread? http://imgur.com/gallery/LcmYM
Edited by shosca, 21 July 2015 - 06:58 AM.
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#11
Posted 21 July 2015 - 06:53 AM
Since when is cheese defined as on-meta power picks? Cheese in an unconventional tactic that relies on catching an opponent off guard.
IMO we've been on this patch so long that there are very few strats left that are a large enough deviation to be considered true cheese, but there are still a few quirky strats that can work:
- reapzerker, as demonstrated by CraftyDus
- kamikazi-zombie raider on small maps, abusing the fact that death resets the blitz cooldown and activates composite armor to blitz engage a fight twice.
- EOC stacking in SG/line MA, especially on wreckage.
- Pretty much anything involving turrets and holos, including but not limited to holo jukes using stealth, using holos to block LOS, and putting turrets inside holos
- 1337 MLG (holo)taunt strats
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#12
Posted 21 July 2015 - 07:00 AM
I've always understood cheese as cheap underhanded fuzzy bunny. "First of all, the name cheese came because it goes along with lots of WHINE."
Like vulcan zerker is cheesy as fuzzy bunny.
Vulgren is cheesy.
Running scanner+orbs on a scout would be cheesy.
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Come on Crafty, you have been officially called out on your lies. Your online reputation is at stake here, this is just like an old school street race running for pink slips. Its run what you brung and hope its enough. Put up or shut the fuzzy bunny up.
#13
Posted 21 July 2015 - 07:01 AM
5. air compressor
"Air compressor" is not recognized as "cheese" by ACS ![]()
Edited by shosca, 21 July 2015 - 07:01 AM.
#14
Posted 21 July 2015 - 07:01 AM
Since when is cheese defined as on-meta power picks? Cheese in an unconventional tactic that relies on catching an opponent off guard.
IMO we've been on this patch so long that there are very few strats left that are a large enough deviation to be considered true cheese, but there are still a few quirky strats that can work:
- reapzerker, as demonstrated by CraftyDus
- kamikazi-zombie raider on small maps, abusing the fact that death resets the blitz cooldown and activates composite armor to blitz engage a fight twice.
- EOC stacking in SG/line MA, especially on wreckage.
- Pretty much anything involving turrets and holos, including but not limited to holo jukes using stealth, using holos to block LOS, and putting turrets inside holos
- 1337 MLG (holo)taunt strats
There's also this definition:
The word cheese is used to describe strategies or ways of playing that are really powerful and do not require much skill from the players side at the same time. The term is widely used both in video games and tabletop games alike.
It is this definition that's implied by shosca.
#15
Posted 21 July 2015 - 07:07 AM
Berzerker
Seekers
Pred mine spam (in siege)
Incin-Tech
Assault

Edited by Elite, 21 July 2015 - 07:32 AM.
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#16
Posted 21 July 2015 - 07:07 AM
There's also this definition:
It is this definition that's implied by shosca.
ELI5 definition of "cheese" determined by ACS is anything with least amount skill and most amount of return
Edited by shosca, 21 July 2015 - 07:08 AM.
#17
Posted 21 July 2015 - 07:15 AM
ACS is a private organization, you skrub
sorry ![]()
Edited by hoghead, 21 July 2015 - 07:18 AM.
#18
Posted 21 July 2015 - 07:21 AM
ELI5 definition of "cheese" determined by ACS is anything with least amount skill and most amount of return
I concede to the official ACS definition, but it makes for a much less interesting thread IMO.
Cheese by the official definition is pretty straight forward in (no particular order):
- Scanner
- Assault
- Scanner
- Farthammer bumblebee zerk
- Scanner
Seriously though fuzzy bunny scanner.
#19
Posted 21 July 2015 - 07:26 AM
I concede to the official ACS definition, but it makes for a much less interesting thread IMO.
ACS is the leader in promoting, improving and supporting "cheese". ACS provides the "cheese" community with educational resources and networking opportunities, while encouraging the highest standards of "cheesemaking" focused on safety and sustainability, hence always interested in new kinds of "cheese". So if you have any original "cheese" ideas please let us know.
Edited by shosca, 21 July 2015 - 07:28 AM.
#20
Posted 21 July 2015 - 07:33 AM
Smurfs that say they are new players.
Smurfs that don't say anything at all because they are obviously 2500+ players in a newbie costume.
Players that everyone is afraid to admit that they actually believe are cheaters.
Players that never use anything but Berzerker.
Players that never use anything but Scout.
Players that never use anything but Sharpshooter.
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To be serious for a moment this is just a joke
#21
Posted 21 July 2015 - 07:35 AM
... ACS provides the "cheese" community with educational resources and networking opportunities, while encouraging the highest standards of "cheesemaking" focused on safety and sustainability...
Knew it.
Dman sustain peasants.
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#22
Posted 21 July 2015 - 07:43 AM
Sooooo cheesing basically deals with undeserved wins? [not trolling.... see I lived in a cave for 54 years I'm trying to learn] ![]()
#23
Posted 21 July 2015 - 07:55 AM
I would say what constitutes as cheesy means something that's easy to perform but yields comparably effective results. It's more of an issue that the things that are hard to execute aren't rewarded appropiately.
#24
Posted 21 July 2015 - 08:04 AM
We could also consider it as a contraction of two words that go great together. Cheazing: Cheesy and Cheating (I used a "z" in the spelling because I liked the way it looked better)
To be serious for a moment this is just a joke
#25
Posted 21 July 2015 - 08:22 AM
We could also consider it as a contraction of two words that go great together. Cheazing: Cheesy and Cheating (I used a "z" in the spelling because I liked the way it looked better)
During a broadcast game on September 16, 2009, OGN commentator Um Jae Kyung (???) briefly discussed the difference between a bunker rush and a "cheese" rush. According to his explanation, the term "cheese" originated from the word "cheater's" (words in Korean are sometimes shortened by the middle syllables, so ??? [chi tuh zu] would become ?? [chi zu]).
Right on.
#26
Posted 21 July 2015 - 08:53 AM
WOW YOU NORDS.
JUST POST WHAT YOU THINK IS CHEEZY AND FORGOT ABOUT TERMINOLOGY fuzzy bunny
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#27
Posted 21 July 2015 - 09:36 AM
1. Colby Jack
2. Cheddar
3. Mozzarella
4. Swiss
5. Havarti
All I saw was "top 5 cheese"
Edited by Loglino, 21 July 2015 - 09:37 AM.
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Mind the fact that pizza is my avatar.
Pizza is cool and you know it.
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#28
Posted 21 July 2015 - 09:46 AM
1. Colby Jack
2. Cheddar
3. Mozzarella
4. Swiss
5. Havarti
All I saw was "top 5 cheese"
I feel that there are just too many good cheeses to pick a top 5! Blue is definetly up there though, and I am partial to a good muenster

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#29
Posted 21 July 2015 - 09:47 AM
#30
Posted 21 July 2015 - 10:16 AM
5. AC Berserker
4. Scanner
3. Open maps with SS & Hellfire (Bunker & Bazaar, Eco)
2. Orblording
1. This place is shared among a lot of things, they include hacking, abusing matchmaker, playing in uneven teams & complaining about everything, even when you die in the most non-cheesy ways.


#31
Posted 21 July 2015 - 10:16 AM
I feel that there are just too many good cheeses to pick a top 5! Blue is definetly up there though, and I am partial to a good muenster
I brought up government cheese and got called a skrub! What theH3LL!!!!!
Edited by hoghead, 21 July 2015 - 10:19 AM.
#32
Posted 21 July 2015 - 10:44 AM
- People playing Preds in low pop DM (4 or less players)
- Playing against smurfs with lower MMR than me but 300+ higher MMR on their main account
- Orb Lord Ass-ault
- Rage-quiters
- Snipers
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#33
Posted 21 July 2015 - 10:53 AM
You mean it can be used in a different way?
AC isnt a crutch anymore than playing Assault is.
#34
Posted 21 July 2015 - 11:03 AM
1: Zerker
2: Zerker
3: Zerker
4: Zerker
Did I mention I don't like zerkers?
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#35
Posted 21 July 2015 - 11:15 AM
1: Zerker
2: Zerker
3: Zerker
4: Zerker
Did I mention I don't like zerkers?
Spoiler
I have 3.
Just let that sink in.
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#36
Posted 21 July 2015 - 11:29 AM
AC isnt a crutch anymore than playing Assault is.
Assault is simply strong and easy to play. Can't go wrong with TOW + laser hitscan.
AC lets you ignore poor positioning and footing, aim easier midair (so you can dodge to quickly adjust your aim), easier and safer peeking behind corners, in addition to forcing your non-deto projectile using opponents to direct hits instead of slash, in addition to other mobility related benefits the internal offers. Of course, the most popular mechs with hitscan and remote detonation hardly gives a fuz about AC being used with or against it, so there are better options.
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#37
Posted 21 July 2015 - 11:30 AM
I have 3.
Just let that sink.
I'm so salty I make the sea look preferable to slugs.
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#38
Posted 21 July 2015 - 11:30 AM
1. Dropped shots.
2. More than one sniper on a team.
3. Imbal game with tech on the team with an extra player. Glad someone posted this because I forgot.
4. Preds, ever.
5. Doing the weapon glitch and getting a mech that already has the glitched weapon as a normal option.
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#39
Posted 21 July 2015 - 12:07 PM
#40
Posted 21 July 2015 - 12:13 PM
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