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Hawken isn't that big guys. 


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something something fragmenting the player base something something platform parity


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Also they make the forums look ugly.


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The irony is that there is probably some brand new X-Box One player trying to type something in the forums right now, or ask us all a bunch of questions, and we can't help them because they have to have every post pre-approved, no more than one per day, and for five posts.  SORRY NEW PLAYERS!.  Just know that we DO want to hear what you think about the game.  Please muddle through the forum rules and tell us what you think.


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Hawken isn't that big guys. 

i always think, that console-players can't type with their gamepads, why they need their own subforum?... xD


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Hawken isn't that big guys. 

 

 

something something fragmenting the player base something something platform parity

 


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XBOX and PS4 Subforums are Unnecessary

Except for tech support and known issues, maybe.


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the new layout also looks like dog fuzzy bunny 


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Xbob is practically PC something something 


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Ya, I don't think having a PS4 or Xbox One gerneal discussion is really needed. Having them for Tech Support I can definitely see.

 

Why not have logos on for users on the forum that we can enable which platform we play on?



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Please get all  your xbone and ps4 posts and threads out of the pc side at once. Including this one!



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...they have to have every post pre-approved, no more than one per day, and for five posts.

 

Wait, what? Seriously?



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No, we were in the process of creating them and working on the permissions. Xbox players will see the Xbox forums and PC players will see the PC forums :) 


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No, we were in the process of creating them and working on the permissions. Xbox players will see the Xbox forums and PC players will see the PC forums :) 

Well....If I'm a X one player I would come by for some spoilers.


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No, we were in the process of creating them and working on the permissions. Xbox players will see the Xbox forums and PC players will see the PC forums :) 

 

I can only imagine why.


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As a PS4 player that has played games on many different platforms sub forums for each system is great. I enjoy the ability to switch between PC and PS4 forums. Look up PC forums for strats, builds and all around awesome info. Then go back to PS4 forums for general chat and help newbies.


I feel this set up with systems only being able to see system related forums boring and majorly off setting. I honestly have never seen a segregated forum layout like this one. It was ugly before but it worked and could be improved upon. Now it just feels like your saying "go away".


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No, we were in the process of creating them and working on the permissions. Xbox players will see the Xbox forums and PC players will see the PC forums :) 

 

Best to hide us away right? Heaven forbid we interact with each other right? Can't have us vets tainting this new player base right?


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No, we were in the process of creating them and working on the permissions. Xbox players will see the Xbox forums and PC players will see the PC forums :) 

 

Why in the world are you trying to do that other than to prevent the sharing of information? Why not just allow users to navigate to whatever area they want? I'm assuming (obviously) that a user of one platform will be unable to manually navigate to the other platform's forum area, so if that's not the case, then that's not nearly as bad.

 

Does this mean that guests can't view either platform-specific forum unless they sign up?

 

Edit: looking at the forums now I see that there's only PC-specific areas. The same is true when I log out of my account. Can someone with a XB1 account log in and confirm if they see the same thing?


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Edit: looking at the forums now I see that there's only PC-specific areas. The same is true when I log out of my account. Can someone with a XB1 account log in and confirm if they see the same thing?

 

Same thing happens for me as well. Seems like Reloaded is trying really hard to keep people on their separate platforms.

Makes ya wonder why don't it?


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No, we were in the process of creating them and working on the permissions. Xbox players will see the Xbox forums and PC players will see the PC forums :) 

 

i'm ok with this.


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No, we were in the process of creating them and working on the permissions. Xbox players will see the Xbox forums and PC players will see the PC forums :)

This is an awful decision. On so many levels.

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This is an awful decision. On so many levels.

 

It's probably a good decision business wise but if they really think that's going to stop PC users then they are dreaming. It's a minor inconvenience at best.


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No, we were in the process of creating them and working on the permissions. Xbox players will see the Xbox forums and PC players will see the PC forums :)


Ah, that's why you're syncing forum accounts to in game. What a bunch of bull, especially if you want cross-platform servers down the line.
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I'm taking this.


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No, we were in the process of creating them and working on the permissions. Xbox players will see the Xbox forums and PC players will see the PC forums :) 

SO we can't "poison the well?" So to speak?
Or is this RLD's way of putting PC users in perpetual "time-out," so you can focus on consoles and continue to completely ignore us?

Prolly too late for that at this point.

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I'm starting to get pissed first no coms even AFTER the NDA then the cat is out of the bag and STILL nothing, Listen i'm becoming bitter because of
#1 LACK OF COMS FUZZING TALK TO US  
#2 changing almost EVERYTHING and yes we found out you can still get out of wreckage...
#3 I love LOVE how you fuzzed with the cupcake just as one last kick in the crotch to any of the oldest players and showing how much you respect us.
#4 THIS FUZZING THIS...
im sorry i had to get that out there... *sigh*  :mellow:


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Yeah, honestly, of everything, making cupcake available is pretty high up on the "egregious" list for me.

(Coming from someone who has always wanted cupcake. But I'm purposely not going to buy one, OUT OF PRINCIPLE, AND SOME MISPLACED SENSE OF RESPECT.)


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Separate forums as games are actually different between PC and other platform might me OK, but merge them when the patch is released.


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We can't dissuade the console players from what RLD envision for the game this way, they are securing their future and leaving Pc behind by isolating us and ignoring our valued input.

I don't want the devs to view us as we might, high and mighty and all the more knowledged about the game even if we are. It might be the truth, it probably is. But this type of attitude breeds a superiority complex, an arrogant mindset, and generally an unhealthy environment. It's become that. I can sort of see why they've isolated us, but I think there's more to gain in intermingling players in an open forum in order to breed better discussion and build a strong PC console relationship in the unlikely case cross platform play is a real thing officially. Plus we can share knowledge and help console players and all these things. There are so many benefits in opening the forums up.

The key to any relationship is communication. And there is sparse, weak, isolated communication here without any indication that we are being listened to. The console forums can't even hear us, see us. The devs hear us but they do not listen.

All we want as PC players, I think, is more than just simple lip service saying "we're listening" and "we're open to it" and a blatant disregard for our opinions. We want to be heard, and we want to be recognized that we are being heard, and know that our words are not empty angry rants to the people in charge. We know stuff. Let us help. We love this game and want to see it succeed. Let us help you make the game better.

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No, we were in the process of creating them and working on the permissions. Xbox players will see the Xbox forums and PC players will see the PC forums :

ok


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Console versions will always be different from the PC versions and it's easier to keep them separate and gather feedback for each individually. PC will be getting updated, after the consoles are out the door and stable. It will take time. 


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How else would RLD be able to conceal the rest of the game from console players? I mean, that is the point of the console port, isn't it? They hit a dead-end with the PC version, and created a severely limited version as a 'port' to rip off players from a potentially great game with the intentions of squeezing it dry of any possible profits. That is RLD's company business plan, afterall. Its nothing personal. Its the best way to prevent any backlash from console players knowing how much better the game could have been.


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Console versions will always be different from the PC versions and it's easier to keep them separate and gather feedback for each individually. PC will be getting updated, after the consoles are out the door and stable. It will take time. 

Is that the same reason why the link to the IRC disappeared from the Hawken homepage?


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Is that the same reason why the link to the IRC disappeared from the Hawken homepage?

 

IRC isn't run by Reloaded so it's not an official channel. 


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IRC isn't run by Reloaded so it's not an official channel.

It is an important community hub where players can come for some quick support type questions as well as generally chat about Hawken and stuff in general. I would like it to remain because sometimes we can help a player out much quicker, not to say they shouldn't reach out to Hawken support, but it has proven to be a historically useful tool for new players and veterans alike not only for support but gameplay advice as well. I see nothing but benefits for the #hawkenscrim IRC to remain linked but I can completely understand why it is no longer linked given its unofficial status.

As operator/owner of the #hawkenscrim IRC, I would like to request that it be linked once more, however. I'd be willing to talk to RLD further about relinking it if they'd be willing to.

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It is an toxic community hub where new players can come to learn about how bad Howken has become and stuff in general. I would like it to remain because we can always help a player out much quicker and did that for the whole last year when Reloaded didn't say fuzzy bunny so it has proven to be a historically useful tool for new players and veterans alike not only for support but gameplay advice as well. I see nothing but benefits for the #herkenscrim IRC to remain linked but I can completely understand why it is no longer linked because you are afraid we will tell the new console players what's up and will call you out on your shenanigans. There's no sense in removing the link now apart from that reason.

As a powertripping loud kid of the #herkenscrim IRC, I would like to request that it be linked once more, however. It is the treehouse of Herken before it became Howken and reminds us of better days.

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It is an important community hub where players can come for some quick support type questions as well as generally chat about Hawken and stuff in general. I would like it to remain because sometimes we can help a player out much quicker, not to say they shouldn't reach out to Hawken support, but it has proven to be a historically useful tool for new players and veterans alike not only for support but gameplay advice as well. I see nothing but benefits for the #hawkenscrim IRC to remain linked but I can completely understand why it is no longer linked given its unofficial status.

As operator/owner of the #hawkenscrim IRC, I would like to request that it be linked once more, however. I'd be willing to talk to RLD further about relinking it if they'd be willing to.

 

If you have a player base that will call you out for doing stupid fuzzy bunny you can either stop doing stupid fuzzy bunny or you can try to shut up the people who call out your stupid fuzzy bunny.

 

RLD seems to have decided that the latter is more profitable.

 

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Console versions will always be different from the PC versions


"Feature parity"
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It seems that from Reloaded point of view subforums are necessary. :pinch:


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