Title says it all. Take MMR restrictions off. I can't play on trashburn anymore. The lag is just unbearable. I want to play in an LA server but guess what? I can't. I have to queue and hope. The more I play pub Hawken the more depressed I get. Unlocking the servers would help everyone. Have certain servers designated for level 20 and under or something. All the rest should be open. Just my two cents.
Please for the love of all that is holy unlock the servers.
#2
Posted 26 July 2015 - 02:21 PM
#3
Posted 26 July 2015 - 02:29 PM
Merl.
Create a smurf. Once you start down the Smurfian Way, your troubles are lighter... you could call it the Carefree Highway, but that's in Arizona.
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Posted 26 July 2015 - 03:16 PM
Merl.
Create a smurf. Once you start down the Smurfian Way, your troubles are lighter... you could call it the Carefree Highway, but that's in Arizona.
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#6
Posted 26 July 2015 - 04:39 PM
Title says it all. Take MMR restrictions off. I can't play on trashburn anymore. The lag is just unbearable. I want to play in an LA server but guess what? I can't. I have to queue and hope. The more I play pub Hawken the more depressed I get. Unlocking the servers would help everyone. Have certain servers designated for level 20 and under or something. All the rest should be open. Just my two cents.
Basically the same reasons why I am currently taking a break from Hawken.
#7
Posted 26 July 2015 - 04:50 PM
Fuzz off, nobody plays LA and every time I get dumped in an LA server I want to vomit.
Out of likes for today but yeah. Y'all got smog in your ethernet dongles.
#8
Posted 26 July 2015 - 04:56 PM
Edited by (TDM)crockrocket, 26 July 2015 - 04:56 PM.

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#9
Posted 26 July 2015 - 04:56 PM
What's smog? Is that something people in the lower 48 get? We don't get that in Alaska. Is it a kind of special stupidity? It sure sounds like it to me.
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#10
Posted 26 July 2015 - 05:08 PM
Fuzz off, nobody plays LA and every time I get dumped in an LA server I want to vomit.
Almost half of TANG is west coast and pubs there when possible
#12
Posted 26 July 2015 - 05:39 PM
Bearing in mind of course that "almost half" of an 8 man roster means at most 4 people.
There's also a good amount on TDM, Crush, and axe attack
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#13
Posted 26 July 2015 - 06:49 PM
I'm sorry that your ping becomes what mine is all the time. Please tell me how hard that is.Fuzz off, nobody plays LA and every time I get dumped in an LA server I want to vomit.
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#14
Posted 26 July 2015 - 07:01 PM
You know what I do if I can't get decent ping in a game in regions where people actually play it?
I play a different game.
EDIT: And the fact that I occasionally can't quickmatch into Dallas or Ashburn because there's an LA server with higher MMR is absolutely going to make me resent the fact that you exist.
Edited by Dew, 26 July 2015 - 07:05 PM.
#15
Posted 26 July 2015 - 07:39 PM
Both of our problems would be solved if servers were unlocked. Just saying.You know what I do if I can't get decent ping in a game in regions where people actually play it?
I play a different game.
EDIT: And the fact that I occasionally can't quickmatch into Dallas or Ashburn because there's an LA server with higher MMR is absolutely going to make me resent the fact that you exist.

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#16
Posted 26 July 2015 - 07:41 PM
Instead of raging at each other for playing in regions that force other mmr'ed players into said regions by matchmaking, we should be looking at these new devs and what they've done with the servers so far. I mean even when no one was managing the servers or game before, the Adhesive servers were still so much better... you could play in any region of NA without all the rubber-banding and spikes that you get nowadays. Sadly, the servers are just plain worse all around now.
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#17
Posted 26 July 2015 - 07:56 PM
Reloaded is also the reason why we even have a place to complain at: the forums. Hell, if they didn't come along when they did this game wouldn't exist for us to complain about right about now. Yes, I'll admit the other server performance was better, but at least we have a game to play still.
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#18
Posted 26 July 2015 - 08:07 PM
I didn't say Reloaded taking over is the problem. Yes, we're all grateful they bought over and saved the game. But the direction they seem to be taking the servers leaves a lot to be desired, at least from a player's perspective. Sure it's understandable from a business standpoint, that they went with cheaper servers to save on costs.
#19
Posted 26 July 2015 - 10:19 PM
Agreed. Ever since the recent matchmaker changes, it's rather difficult to get into the ideal server. It doesn't make sense when the MM priorities new games over ideal games. Just this night, there was a LA server 2150 mmr average that had two slots open for a good minute or so. Due to the recent changes to how long it searches for an ideal match, I ended up losing that server over almost 3 minutes. I was placed in a 1700 average server located in ashburn, which is the farthest from me...
Logical? I doubt it.
#20
Posted 26 July 2015 - 11:11 PM
But I love Ashburn, it's only the best servers ever!!!

If I had the abiltiy to blackslist servers. Ashburn would be the first on the list.
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#21
Posted 27 July 2015 - 02:27 AM
Yes pls to OP. I often play the game at ridiculous hours (3-7 am) and there's only a couple servers up at those times. I consistently get fuzzy bunnyed over every night and get placed in servers that only have one player (it's 4 am, there's a total of 20 people playing right now, and it'll take 30+ minutes for two more to wander in, if they do at all. I'm not waiting that long for a ten minute match.) or have terrible ping, yet there's other, active servers with open slots and much better ping that i'm just not allowed to join because.. why?
No other FPS i know of restricts who you can play with, with the exception of brand-new players who are eventually given full access to every server and gamemode after an hour or two of play. Like c'mon reloaded just give it a try for a week or something and see what happens.
Edited by PsychedelicGrass, 27 July 2015 - 02:33 AM.
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#22
Posted 27 July 2015 - 03:21 AM
#23
Posted 27 July 2015 - 06:16 AM
Bearing in mind of course that "almost half" of an 8 man roster means at most 4 people.
WEST LIVES MATTER YOU BIGOT
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#24
Posted 27 July 2015 - 06:32 AM
Reloaded is also the reason why we even have a place to complain at: the forums. Hell, if they didn't come along when they did this game wouldn't exist for us to complain about right about now. Yes, I'll admit the other server performance was better, but at least we have a game to play still.
The population is now lower than what it's been before they took over.
The PC community is the red headed step child Reloaded never wanted but got saddled with when they married the PC community's mother.
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#25
Posted 27 July 2015 - 06:34 AM
Dear OP and the rest of NA players.
HAVE A BIG CUP OF STFU ABOUT YOUR PINGS.
Thank you.
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#26
Posted 27 July 2015 - 07:52 AM
I get acceptable ping anywhere in the US. Still want the servers unlocked.Dear OP and the rest of NA players.
HAVE A BIG CUP OF STFU ABOUT YOUR PINGS.
Thank you.
Also, your problem being greater doesn't mean the ping problems of others don't exist.
Edited by (TDM)crockrocket, 27 July 2015 - 07:53 AM.
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#27
Posted 27 July 2015 - 10:32 AM
Title says it all. Take MMR restrictions off. I can't play on trashburn anymore. The lag is just unbearable. I want to play in an LA server but guess what? I can't. I have to queue and hope. The more I play pub Hawken the more depressed I get. Unlocking the servers would help everyone. Have certain servers designated for level 20 and under or something. All the rest should be open. Just my two cents.
Match maker could be reworked to provide more balanced games, a lot of solutions could be stated the point is what solution would be both easy to implement and efficient.
If you take a look at average MMR of servers unlocking most servers is not IMHO an appropriate solution, I'd rather have fewer unlocked servers and a smarter queuing system that could create from scratch and send invite to players who ask for reservation tickets.
I would like more Coop TDM servers that could be played solo, and being able to queue for a TDM server while playing coop TDM.
#28
Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:55 AM
I'v never paid attention but it seems that there is a freeforall server in EU that is unlocked.
Edited by MomOw, 28 July 2015 - 10:55 AM.
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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:47 PM
#30
Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:57 PM
I mean LA may suck as an actual city, but as far as Hawken goes it's all we've got west of the Rockies
What did happen to Oregon servers? I miss my 30 ping.
If dev's are worried about pub stomping, and high MMR players cant find games, why not change match making to allow anyone 2000+ to enter the same game. The shallow MMR allowance is only in place for lower tier players. Once you hit 2000 mmr, the gates are unlocked and Dave is the only upper limit.
#31
Posted 29 July 2015 - 07:11 AM
Maybe you could keep the MMR lock, but make it more dynamic. Keep it pretty strict at lower MMR levels, but significantly increase or remove the lock at mid to high MMR ranges. The reason I say this is because after a certain level, it's obvious some players outclass each other. But I don't think it's game ruining or detrimental outside of those lower ranges.
I'm definitely a fan of no lock. But idk how viable that is in todays gaming scene. The problem is that there are users here who want to play to get better, be challenged, and play intense games. Then there are players who just really want to relax and have some more light hearted fun, and that's really hard to balance in a smaller community.(at least given the current game/server structure) And it is an important balance to make, because both camps are equally deserving of their preferred experience. Not only that but mixing and matching these different players into the same match can be highly detrimental to everyones experience.
EDIT: Basically what TangledMantis said above me.
Edited by Massive_Assailant_Stingray, 29 July 2015 - 07:17 AM.
#32
Posted 29 July 2015 - 08:35 AM
Dear OP and the rest of NA players.
HAVE A BIG CUP OF STFU ABOUT YOUR PINGS.
Thank you.
When I play LA, I might as well live in Africa. Last night every other shot failed to fire. I would rather play on EU than LA anytime.
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#33
Posted 29 July 2015 - 09:05 AM
When I play LA, I might as well live in Africa. Last night every other shot failed to fire. I would rather play on EU than LA anytime.
I witnessed/experienced this for myself.
Shitty L.A. confirmed.
Edited by (TDM) DeeRax, 29 July 2015 - 09:07 AM.
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#34
Posted 29 July 2015 - 09:44 AM
I've noticed an interesting pattern. As a west coast player I get the kind of smooth ping distribution that I'd expect:
- West coast is in the 30's
- Central in the 60's
- East coast in the 90's
However, it looks like east coast and maybe central players are getting disproportionately high pings for west coast servers. I saw Incitatus playing on a west coast server last night with 190ish ping and I don't blame him for leaving.
GGGanjaman, a fellow Westie, also said last night he gets 150+ ping on Kansas servers but not on Dallas servers. I suggested he submit a ticket because if it's a consistent issue then I bet that Josh would love to receive a Wireshark connection log.
Do any of you east coast players experience smooth ping increase as you go from your nearby east servers to the west coast? Put another way, are you getting the 30-60-90 spread that I am? Or does every east coast player get wild 150+ ping on west coast servers?
#35
Posted 29 July 2015 - 10:26 AM
As an east coast player... Yeah, my ping tends to get wild the farther west I go (Although Dallas tends to be the worst for me). Even stranger, I've gotten better pings in some Euro servers than on most NA west coast servers.
That said, I don't have the best internet connection in the world... But I usually only notice problems with it when playing Hawken, TBH.
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#36
Posted 29 July 2015 - 10:42 AM
I've noticed an interesting pattern. As a west coast player I get the kind of smooth ping distribution that I'd expect:
- West coast is in the 30's
- Central in the 60's
- East coast in the 90's
However, it looks like east coast and maybe central players are getting disproportionately high pings for west coast servers. I saw Incitatus playing on a west coast server last night with 190ish ping and I don't blame him for leaving.
GGGanjaman, a fellow Westie, also said last night he gets 150+ ping on Kansas servers but not on Dallas servers. I suggested he submit a ticket because if it's a consistent issue then I bet that Josh would love to receive a Wireshark connection log.
Do any of you east coast players experience smooth ping increase as you go from your nearby east servers to the west coast? Put another way, are you getting the 30-60-90 spread that I am? Or does every east coast player get wild 150+ ping on west coast servers?
Normally, its about 120 in LA. But it jumps around sporadically and hit reg is always waaaaay outta whack. Kansas/Dallas gives me about 50ish ping while Assburn gives me 35-45, and hit reg is considerably better. At least it acknowledges that I fired a weapon.
#37
Posted 29 July 2015 - 10:47 AM
#38
Posted 29 July 2015 - 10:54 AM
Maybe y'all just have worse internet on the East coast.

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#39
Posted 29 July 2015 - 10:56 AM
#40
Posted 29 July 2015 - 12:27 PM
Instead of eliminating MMR fitness range, maybe instead increase fitness range proportionally with distance from the average (mean) MMR. For example, players within 1 standard deviation might have a narrow fitness range of ±100 MMR while the minority of extremely-high MMR players would end up with a much wider range, reflecting the fact that their are fewer players within that range who they could potentially join. This would retain the intention of the current system, creating balanced matches between comparably skilled players, while reducing some of the problems you are experiencing.
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