And this is why people smurf
#41
Posted 05 September 2015 - 08:41 PM
What's the big fuzzy bunnyng deal? Lots of amazing people have committed suicide, and they turned out alright.
#42
Posted 05 September 2015 - 08:55 PM
I agree with your above suggestion about unlocking the servers...except weeding out (as you say, if that's what you really mean) the filthy casuals is a bad idea, since the game in general is made up of mostly casual players and we need as many to stay as possible.
Unlocking the servers from top to bottom means all level mmr players will be in matches together, which may not be such a bad thing with player pop being so little at ATM.
This may in the long run help lower skilled players, that want to try and improve their game...but it's the current low number of people playing that is the main cause and effect of what's happening here.
Little backend tweaks and such by the dev team really aren't going to fix this issue until the player population grows and is able to sustain large numbers....which I think will happen down the road.
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(ummm the part about the filthy casuals was humor.....)
#43
Posted 05 September 2015 - 11:49 PM
You called me out for "insulting" you and yet I sense a layer of disrespect in each one of your posts and if you can't see it, then you should probably brush up on your social intelligence skills.
you show disrespect, you get it back. That's kinda how this life thing works.
There you go, you sense disrespect so therefore you feel you must retaliate with insults, then others who have no business in the direct 1 on 1 conversation have to get in and puff their chests up and further back up their frat brothers.
You are wrong. I explained it to you how you simply overlooked something simple. I feel it is obvious.
Then when I asked you nicely to explain your wonky explanation that I couldn't follow, you busted out even more insults, so I'm pretty sure you are the one being anti social, not me.
I or anyone else for that matter shouldn't have to try to draw conclusions on your posts, they should be clear and concise and easily followed. Thats why I asked you to clarify WTF you were talking about.
However, my issues with you stem primarily from your typically terrible argumentation combined with your posting style.
*Edit*
I've offered before, but if you ever wish to speak directly to me - or to my "frat boys" - you're always welcome to join our TeamSpeak.
*Edit 2*
May as well mention the obvious. If I had to guess the reasons for your passive-aggression and smarm, I'd venture that it's because you like to pretend that you're adhering to the rules. Being passive-aggresive and insulting through allusion allows you to - in your mind, anyway - follow the rules while slighting others.
I wish you and your goons would drop the whole rehashing the past, its fuzzy bunnyng over, it happened months ago, its been dealt with, I'm sorry that you are not satisfied with the results, but learn to deal with it and move forward. Life isn't fair or as you posted keep calm and suck it up buttercup, its fitting. Just because you don't agree with what you feel should of happened does not give you the right to harass and antagonize someone repeatedly in multiple venues. Especially when the matter didn't even fuzzy bunnyng concern you at all, thats the biggest part you (and your friends) can't seem to understand, you have no right, and certainly no legal right to represent one of your clan members.
2nd, I have no fuzzy bunnyng reason on this earth to want to discuss anything with you and your friends on your personal teamspeak. I've told you and your boys this years go before. So yeah, not going to happen for more reasons than that either. I'm not stupid, I can detect a trap when I see one.
Even so if I were to use a VPN <insert passive aggressive smarmy smiley face here> and connect, what good would that solve? What would be hashed out there that cannot be hashed out elsewhere like here? You'd probably just do the same as Ashfire and bust out your admin power card, and mute and ban me because of your personal hatred, just like you said you would of had I been involved with the TPG.
3rd, it has nothing to do with anything with adhering to the rules. Its the way I am, I explained that earlier, and you apparently refuse to acknowledge it. I'm sorry you cannot accept that. I'm sick of a few specific individuals over reacting and trying to cause more drama because of their personal grievances. And you all think I quit posting for a different reason, but its not, its because every post I make ends up surrounded in this sort of fuzzy bunny. The only way to get it to stop, is to just force silence on myself, by not opening the can of worms in the first place.
Notice the problem is only with the few people that feel the grave injustice of their loyal frat brother. It certainly isn't a coincidence. Other people such as Hestoned or DM30 had no issues responding to my post. Again, had it been someone else this would of been a nonissue, Nept you wouldn't of had to puff up your chest and get involved, and IareDave wouldn't of busted out the insult card. But unfortunately the forum lacks individuals that understand the basics of programming and are willing to explain how an algorithm works, or in this cause how it doesn't work.
And Dave, I'm not salty at all, filled with regret, yes, salt no.
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#44
Posted 06 September 2015 - 12:42 AM
Just because you don't agree with what you feel should of happened does not give you the right to harass and antagonize someone repeatedly in multiple venues. Especially when the matter didn't even fuzzy bunnyng concern you at all, thats the biggest part you (and your friends) can't seem to understand, you have no right, and certainly no legal right to represent one of your clan members.
I simply respond in kind. If you're detecting harassment and antagonistic statements, then you're either imagining them, misconstruing (legitimate) challenges to your poor arguments, or seeing a reflection of your own attitude. And yes, your threatening one of my teammates and friends with a gun did concern me.
For all your tough talk re: "dealing with it," you're not doing a particularly great job.
2nd, I have no fuzzy bunnyng reason on this earth to want to discuss anything with you and your friends on your personal teamspeak. I've told you and your boys this years go before. So yeah, not going to happen for more reasons than that either. I'm not stupid, I can detect a trap when I see one.
Even so if I were to use a VPN <insert passive aggressive smarmy smiley face here> and connect, what good would that solve? What would be hashed out there that cannot be hashed out elsewhere like here?
That's a whole lot of paranoia and assumptions. You say you like direct? You can have direct and talk "face to face" with me. Or you can keep hiding behind walls of poor argumentation, passive-aggressive insults, and assumptions on the forums.
You'd probably just do the same as Ashfire and bust out your admin power card, and mute and ban me because of your personal hatred, just like you said you would of had I been involved with the TPG.
Prior to your gun threat against Xacius, you never would've been banned from TPG. You were free to participate, and you would've been treated the same as any TPG member - regardless of my personal dislike for you. However, we do not allow members (or potential members) to issue gun threats against one another. That decision has nothing to do with my personal feelings toward you, and everything to do with the fact THAT YOU ISSUED A GUN THREAT AGAINST A TPG MEMBER.
3rd, it has nothing to do with anything with adhering to the rules. Its the way I am, I explained that earlier, and you apparently refuse to acknowledge it.
You've presented yourself as passive aggressive, punctilious, and enamoured with regulations since I first appeared on these forums. That's the impression that I've received, and it's the impression that many other community members have received. Your beliefs re: your personality aren't factual, and they've little to no bearing on my interpretation of your posts. And hey, maybe if a whole bunch of people are telling you that you're behaving a certain way . . . well, maybe - just maybe - they've better insight than yourself.
I wish you and your goons would drop the whole rehashing the past, its fuzzy bunnyng over, it happened months ago, its been dealt with, I'm sorry that you are not satisfied with the results, but learn to deal with it and move forward.
You made a gun threat. Reloaded recommended that Xacius contact the police. Did you even apologize?
Edited by Nept: Ultra Lord of the God-Kings, 06 September 2015 - 12:45 AM.
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#45
Posted 06 September 2015 - 01:28 AM
Yeah I guess I completely imagined Craftys and Xacius' attempts at trolling by making harassing remarks like how bad the type of vehicle I own is. Get real dude. You even said in your very public ostracizing that you were not concerned, and that I couldn't hit anything by comparing my aim in a video game to my aim of a firearm. Remember? I do.I simply respond in kind. If you're detecting harassment and antagonistic statements, then you're either imagining them, misconstruing (legitimate) challenges to your poor arguments, or seeing a reflection of your own attitude. And yes, your threatening one of my teammates and friends with a gun did concern me.
So which is it? It cannot be both you cannot say you are concerned after you make a public statement saying you were not concerned. You cannot contradict yourself to try to make your stance stronger after the fact. Sorry it doesn't work that way.
Paranoia?? I have a valid reason for that. I guess you seem to forget your discussion about having one of Xacius' friends in Arizona pay me a visit and vandalize my property. I guess I'm making that up too right? Are you calling me a liar and you never discussed such matters plotting retaliation? Both in private on your TS AND in public? You might want to be careful disarming that loaded question.For all your tough talk re: "dealing with it," you're not doing a particularly great job.
That's a whole lot of paranoia and assumptions. You say you like direct? You can have direct and talk "face to face" with me. Or you can keep hiding behind walls of poor argumentation, passive-aggressive insults, and assumptions on the forums.
Not the point I was making, I was making the point that instead of discussing anything, you would resort to abusing your authority and power on a teamspeak you are in control of. Thats all. Ashfire did it, why wouldn't you.Prior to your gun threat against Xacius, you never would've been banned from TPG. You were free to participate, and you would've been treated the same as any TPG member - regardless of my personal dislike for you. However, we do not allow members (or potential members) to issue gun threats against one another. That decision has nothing to do with my personal feelings toward you, and everything to do with the fact THAT YOU ISSUED A GUN THREAT AGAINST A TPG MEMBER.
You've presented yourself as passive aggressive, punctilious, and enamoured with regulations since I first appeared on these forums. That's the impression that I've received, and it's the impression that many other community members have received. Your beliefs re: your personality aren't factual, and they've little to no bearing on my interpretation of your posts. And hey, maybe if a whole bunch of people are telling you that you're behaving a certain way . . . well, maybe - just maybe - they've better insight than yourself.
You made a gun threat. Reloaded recommended that Xacius contact the police. Did you even apologize?
You think an apology is somehow going to magically make all this disappear like a fart in the wind. Is a fuzzy bunnyng apology going to make you and your goons shut the fuzzy bunny up about it? No. It won't, you'll dredge it up every fuzzy bunnyng time just like you already do. The only thing thats going to stop this is for you to get what you want and thats me being banned from the forums. Thats why you and Crafty have tried so hard to bring this up at every convenience. You want me to react badly again, and get what you want so bad. Its a fuzzy bunnyng sour taste in your mouth every time you see my Callsign. Thats a fact, do not try and lie and say otherwise. Your actions above explain it all.
If Xacius thinks that an apology would somehow solve everything, then why isn't he here asking for one himself? Can he not speak for himself on the matter?
Another question, why should I apologize for someone reading into my statements something that was never said. How about you ask me if it was intended as a gun threat?
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#46
Posted 06 September 2015 - 01:48 AM
Wheres my apology for all of that? Cause most of this whole event topic was the results of months of said liebel by your own clan members. You think none of that had anything to do with the event? Cause and Effect, my love.
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#47
Posted 06 September 2015 - 03:48 AM
You think an apology is somehow going to magically make all this disappear like a fart in the wind.
I think it would be an excellent start. Instead, you're still pretending that you're blameless.
*Edit* If you're going to keep on with the paranoia, we could always meet in a neutral TS. I'm certain that Loc and co. would be willing to let us use theirs.
Edited by Nept: Ultra Lord of the God-Kings, 06 September 2015 - 03:49 AM.
#48
Posted 06 September 2015 - 04:19 AM
#49
Posted 06 September 2015 - 04:25 AM
I think it would be an excellent start. Instead, you're still pretending that you're blameless.
*Edit* If you're going to keep on with the paranoia, we could always meet in a neutral TS. I'm certain that Loc and co. would be willing to let us use theirs.
Uh, no thank you, I respectfully decline that also. Why you may ask?
Because I will not join any TS/mumble/skype/voip that is affiliated with any current, past or potential future member of TPG, in fact I'll be rather obnoxious and elevate the restriction to anyone that has ever had anything to do with Hawken past, present and future. Nice try with the bait though, I'm not falling for it, its going to take a bit more than that. If anything a discussion if it were to magically happen would be on my terms not yours. And I already told you, the matter in question does not pertain to you at all, it is none of your fuzzy bunnyng business even though you think you have some right because you are a leader in a members clan.
Also, again, I don't think a discussion is going to solve anything whatsoever I told Josh and Tiggs this many times in our discussions of your clans hostile actions towards me, I'm sure that you think likewise and I'm not sure why you are even bothering by pressing it so much. Neither side is willing to budge. Honestly its a waste of time at this point and should of been handled correctly by ADH years ago.
Now maybe you understand my underlying purpose for creating this post a little bit back. But I am in a position where I cannot afford to make any mistakes pertaining to my own, my families and my properties security. You can say I'm hiding on the forums all you want, because its true, I am, I have no other choice but to make sure my personal information remains unavailable to prying eyes.
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#50
Posted 06 September 2015 - 05:32 AM
Now maybe you understand my underlying purpose for creating this post a little bit back. But I am in a position where I cannot afford to make any mistakes pertaining to my own, my families and my properties security. You can say I'm hiding on the forums all you want, because its true, I am, I have no other choice but to make sure my personal information remains unavailable to prying eyes.

Also, man, people are getting dramatic over next to nothing. I love this.
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#51
Posted 06 September 2015 - 06:02 AM
Because I will not join any TS/mumble/skype/voip that is affiliated with any current, past or potential future member of TPG
Well, that pretty much eliminates any third party voip. Even the public TS is rife with TPG members.
also, on the main topic of this thread, I feel that it is important to note that this community does a decent job of organizing itself - even when appears half-assed - along with the current population being as low as it is, removing server locks in order to allow current players the ability to play on any server they choose is a reasonable solution. the real trick is to have an absolute server ranking, not one that is relative to one's skill level. even the three star listing could be feasibly changed to reflect this: lower MMR players having no stars, while higher MMR players having all three. heck, even skewing the distribution of stars in either direction would better serve both sets of players(lower and higher MMR).
Edited by {TDM} coldform, 06 September 2015 - 06:15 AM.
I like going against the best of any game I play. Helps you in the long run n motivates u to do more. Always room for improvement not failure

FIRST OFF WHAT THE FUZZ IS A "SHILL"
#52
Posted 06 September 2015 - 06:43 AM
So, SS396, I literally have zero beef with you. I could care less about the shitposting here from BOTH sides. If posts are made without the mention of insults or past vendettas, without the mention of threats or paranoia over speaking to another person, a discussion will ensue that is intelligent. If a post arises where there are perceived weak arguments, let it be argued. Because even I, a neutral party with little to no history of confrontation with pretty much anyone here, will pick apart a poorly constructed argument if need be, to anyone here. If you frankly don't care about keeping a relative peace and are willing to call out past forum fights on others, go ahead. No one is stopping you. But be prepared for the shitposts that target you and pick you apart as you try to defend yourself.
Edited by Silverfire, 06 September 2015 - 06:44 AM.
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#53
Posted 06 September 2015 - 07:29 AM
There you go, you sense disrespect so therefore you feel you must retaliate with insults, then others who have no business in the direct 1 on 1 conversation have to get in and puff their chests up and further back up their frat brothers.
You are wrong. I explained it to you how you simply overlooked something simple. I feel it is obvious.
Alright, since you clearly have minimal experience in social psychology allow me to show you why you're an fuzzy bunny.
Intentions are key here, so let's go through it. I created this thread to give more attention to poor match making so the community and most importantly the devs will notice. My goal? To have a better gaming experience for the highest of high MMRs, and thus creating a domino effect where smurfs aren't required and lesser skilled players have better matches. This is the first message you send to me on this thread (as if my post needed any arguing).
...The system skipped those lobbies and did what it did because people like you bitched about not being able to find a lobby, remember?? .... Prior to Joshs timer modifications it would just error out and say there was no lobbies found, remember? I thought that was why you smurfed.....
I'd call you out real quick irl if you tried talking to me like that out of the blue. This is the type of fuzzy bunny that causes you to think people are 'insulting' or 'disrespecting' you because you talk like you got a carrot stuck up your ass.
Then when I asked you nicely to explain your wonky explanation that I couldn't follow, you busted out even more insults, so I'm pretty sure you are the one being anti social, not me.
I or anyone else for that matter shouldn't have to try to draw conclusions on your posts, they should be clear and concise and easily followed. Thats why I asked you to clarify WTF you were talking about.
Nah, you get what you give. If that hasn't been drilled into your subconscious yet then you have a long way to go. As to the post I made:
On another note, looking back I think the issue is that my combined MMR with some of these lads was most likely on par or slightly higher than the average of lobbies present at the time. However, it doesn't make sense that the matchmaking system would think that placing these low MMR players against much higher MMR players is the correct decision when there were clearly a lot more balanced matches they could of joined in the 1200-1800 range.
You can't follow that? Really? Replace 'my combined' with 'my lobbies average mmr' and the sentence makes perfect sense, and if you read the context and main idea of my post it should also be fairly clear.
As to your original post:
Yes I get it, its not an ideal situation, but news flash, its always worked like this. Its always been broken. Why on earth do you expect anything different when theres been no major changes to the way the broken system works??
News flash, I posted this to bring light to the situation and encourage a fix. To make both sides happy. So what are your intentions here?
Edited by IareDave, 06 September 2015 - 07:32 AM.
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#54
Posted 06 September 2015 - 07:43 AM
Because I will not join any TS/mumble/skype/voip that is affiliated with any current, past or potential future member of TPG
Dude, anyone can join and play in TPG.
This is not a thing.
It really is just in your head.
The majority of TPG players have known each other for many many years, and have enjoyed a myriad of online flame wars with each other.
This infatuation you've got must originate from the fact that it's a mystery to you because you are unfamiliar with it.
It's just a comp league, and has it's own host of frequent rivalries and disagreements.
There's nothing in the way of a conspiracy among players who participate in comp hawken towards you.
And while I'm not judging you on being paranoid about your personal info, I'm perfectly secure in displaying who I am irl in the hawken community.
Because outside of the one exception, it's not like hawken players have ever threatened anybody.
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#55
Posted 06 September 2015 - 08:03 AM
I have the slightest fear that at one point this game may become a battle between only smurfs. We really need to find a way to get more players.
#56
Posted 06 September 2015 - 08:30 AM
I have the slightest fear that at one point this game may become a battle between only smurfs. We really need to find a way to get more players.
It seems to be in a vicious cycle: low population -> MM breaks -> vets smurf -> noob retention falters -> low population.
The vets want to play too. Smurfing is a sure way for them to find a match. If the need to smurf was alleviated, we could see more player retention. Either come up with a way to gain a massive surge in new players, or try a different Approach to matchmaking that is more scalable.
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FIRST OFF WHAT THE FUZZ IS A "SHILL"
#57
Posted 06 September 2015 - 08:43 AM
Jesus !...Do you three realize how silly you sound, trying to out come-back the other with childish remarks about each one's behavior and personality flaws.
Grow up and start acting like the senior members of the community should....tired of seeing these threads get derailed with nonsense like this. Please get back on topic ! ![]()
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#58
Posted 06 September 2015 - 09:07 AM
My thought to make MM work a bit more fair would be to,
1 : match must have minimum of 6-8 players to start a team based game.
2 : MM (if possible) makes a list of the players actual MMR from top to bottom. (not visible) But one can still check the !srd through scrimbot.
3 : MM places each player on opposite sides as it goes down the list from high to low mmr. (If it's a smurf player, really nothing one can do, but I think would be no worse than what's currently happening with that issue)
4 : For this to work at all, all or most servers should be wide open to all players ( this may help reduce the need for high tier players to smurf just to get into a match, by playing their main account) That way the matches would be balanced by the actual mmr of each player. Hopefully eliminating stacked teams.
5 : Of course there is the issue of partied teams joining in. I suppose this would have to be addressed to be able to balance teams strictly using real player mmr's for something like this to work.
6 : Then, of course there is a large possibility that none of this would be feasible to begin with.... was just a thought I had which might work in the mean time until the player base has a chance to really start growing again.
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#59
Posted 06 September 2015 - 09:32 AM
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#60
Posted 06 September 2015 - 09:46 AM
Just remove mm already, it will never make the majority of people happy when you have such a low population. the majority of servers on the srever list are greyed out for me so I am unable to join. So when I use the mm fuction it puts me in a lower server so what was the point all along?
How would the sides be determined without mmr then...first come first served ? I would think there would still be a need to use mmr as a base to make matches fair even with low player population. But maybe removing it would work also until player count increases. This is a tough one to solve atm.
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#61
Posted 06 September 2015 - 09:48 AM
Now maybe you understand my underlying purpose for creating this post a little bit back. But I am in a position where I cannot afford to make any mistakes pertaining to my own, my families and my properties security. You can say I'm hiding on the forums all you want, because its true, I am, I have no other choice but to make sure my personal information remains unavailable to prying eyes.
So let me get this straight. The guy who said "My concealed carry license is valid in your state and I'm only a 3 hour drive from your house" imagines "serious security concerns" because the recipient of said threat said that they'd be tempted to key your car?

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Posted 06 September 2015 - 10:21 AM
#63
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#64
Posted 06 September 2015 - 11:20 AM
How would the sides be determined without mmr then...first come first served ? I would think there would still be a need to use mmr as a base to make matches fair even with low player population. But maybe removing it would work also until player count increases. This is a tough one to solve atm.
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I remember some talk in hawkenscrim about capping MMR at like 2400-2500 which is used to place players in appropriate rooms (allowing more players to actually play) while a secondary MMR system goes to about 3000 but is only used to balance players within the rooms.
Before removing the only balancing system we have in the game, I think that more discussion should go on. Like, who benefits more from the removal of MMR, would removing MMR cause people to leave matches or the game entirely, do we have any evidence of how this could effect new player retention, is there an alternate way to balance matches besides MMR, etc.
#65
Posted 06 September 2015 - 11:40 AM
It just really sucks that the players who love the game the most are the ones who are most prohibited from playing casual matches without the need for coordinating a roster ahead of time.
#66
Posted 06 September 2015 - 01:40 PM
Because I will not join any TS/mumble/skype/voip that is affiliated with any current, past or potential future member of TPG.
Let's be clear here: outside of DPS, whose policies I'm not familiar with, there is no VOIP or messaging group associated with Hawken that you COULD join as you have been banned or barred from all of them. STEAM moderators, not community moderators but the paid employees of Valve, have seen fit to ban you and these are people who sleep on KKK-affiliated steam groups.
Through no one group or person's actions but your own, you are persona non grata everywhere but here. So let's be clear. You're not hiding in the forums. It's the last place you have left to fester.
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#67
Posted 06 September 2015 - 04:07 PM
How would the sides be determined without mmr then...first come first served ? I would think there would still be a need to use mmr as a base to make matches fair even with low player population. But maybe removing it would work also until player count increases. This is a tough one to solve atm.
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Just use MM once your in the server to try and balance the teams. MM rarely does a decent job of balancing the team and if the server does not start full then it does not have a chance in hell of working correctly. Also parties in server always fuzzy bunny up mm. I think we should have a test period to see once and for all if we require a MM or not.
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#68
Posted 06 September 2015 - 07:09 PM
You can't follow that? Really? Replace 'my combined' with 'my lobbies average mmr' and the sentence makes perfect sense, and if you read the context and main idea of my post it should also be fairly clear.
I told you, I shouldn't have to decypher someone elses post and draw conclusions and replace words on my own for it to make sense. I'm sorry you used the wrong word when describing what you thought was happening. I asked you to clarify it because it didn't make any sense to me. I'm sure I'm not the only one that was confused with your post. I was just the only one that spoke up about it willingly.
But when someone is describing a very technical process, it helps if they are very specific and detailed, as in your case where using one incorrect term completely changes the entirety of the technical process in question. Telling someone to combine 2900+950 is completely different than telling someone to average 2900+950. Its as simple as that. I didn't know if you had some other new wacked out theory about why it placed you in that lobby or what. Thats why I asked you what you were thinking.
I don't understand why you have such difficulty with this really. I'm not a fuzzy bunnyng mind reader, I cannot determine what you are thinking in your head when you are sitting behind your keyboard. I can only read the words you choose to write. I suggest you choose them wisely and do a better job at explaining your thoughts. Maybe proofread it once or twice, like I do.
Dude, anyone can join and play in TPG.
This is not a thing.
It really is just in your head.
The majority of TPG players have known each other for many many years, and have enjoyed a myriad of online flame wars with each other.
This infatuation you've got must originate from the fact that it's a mystery to you because you are unfamiliar with it.
It's just a comp league, and has it's own host of frequent rivalries and disagreements.
There's nothing in the way of a conspiracy among players who participate in comp hawken towards you.
And while I'm not judging you on being paranoid about your personal info, I'm perfectly secure in displaying who I am irl in the hawken community.
Because outside of the one exception, it's not like hawken players have ever threatened anybody.
Incorrect again, as another member of TPG threatened another member of this community recently with an act of violance. So rally the troops and defend..... oh yeah, you only defend and take action against those that have attacked your close friends.
My bad.
So let me get this straight. The guy who said "My concealed carry license is valid in your state and I'm only a 3 hour drive from your house" imagines "serious security concerns" because the recipient of said threat said that they'd be tempted to key your car?
You really should do some research on state and federal gun regulations, like whats valid and what isn't. Maybe its because you are not American that its such a foreign concept to you. But clearly your ignorance in the subject is the root of the failure here.
In fact thats really the only thing I can think about that I'd love to discuss with you and Crafty and according to Josh, Its not a good idea to discuss state and federal gun regulations in threads with escalated tension levels. Which sucks, cause its easy to show you one regulation about CCW's that completely nullifies your entire argument you are trying to setup.
People that have and use CCW's are not criminals, they are normal individuals that have gone through training and instruction. Please show them some respect, even if it is against your personal views.
Vandalism is very much a crime, retaliation does not make crimes suddenly valid.
Let's be clear here: outside of DPS, whose policies I'm not familiar with, there is no VOIP or messaging group associated with Hawken that you COULD join as you have been banned or barred from all of them. STEAM moderators, not community moderators but the paid employees of Valve, have seen fit to ban you and these are people who sleep on KKK-affiliated steam groups.
Through no one group or person's actions but your own, you are persona non grata everywhere but here. So let's be clear. You're not hiding in the forums. It's the last place you have left to fester.
First off, you are simply talking out of your ass. You have no understanding of anything pertaining to any moderator actions anywhere, why, because you were not even involved and you are going off of really bad second hand information and hearsay.
Secondly, you are a liar. If I was banned by the "paid employees of Valve" as you have so kindly tried to lie about, how on earth could I do this??
http://steamcommunit...74088401644475/
You sir have been rekelberried and proven wrong with your lies.
Just for your info on the subject at hand, when one community moderator tried his hardest to ban me due to his own personal hatred, he suggested that if I had a problem and felt the action was unjust to contact those paid steam moderators. So I quickly did, and when they investigated the matter, they quickly reversed that community moderators actions because he overstepped his bounds. So, again get your facts straight before you are proven a fool. The hilarity of the matter is you should of been smart enough to know I was still posting even after the event in question happened.
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#69
Posted 06 September 2015 - 07:20 PM
People that have and use CCW's are not criminals, they are normal individuals that have gone through training and instruction. Please show them some respect, even if it is against your personal views.
my baby brother got a ccw when he turned 18... and he's a twat. really not that difficult.
Edited by phed, 06 September 2015 - 07:20 PM.
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#70
Posted 06 September 2015 - 07:33 PM
oh yeah, i got distracted by the dramas...
that happens to me too dave, and i'm no mlg elite pro.
stop looking for excuses for bad behavior.
If you're implying that I'm smurfing you're assumptions are wrong. And if you think smurfing is bad behavior you clearly don't know what it feels like to want to play the game you enjoy but can't from poor coding(matchmaking).
I haven't pubbed Hawken for months until last night and was simply posting my results and it gave me a flashback as to why I quit the game many months ago when this system was in place(prior to Josh changing things up, temporarily).
i didn't say "stop looking for excuses for your bad behavior," i said "stop loo... just look up there ^
imagine walls of text meticulously explaining my position and expounding upon a very simple statement and misinterpretation and how my ego has been slighted.
smurfing is bad behavior. i understand why people want to smurf. I understand the system is flawed. but it's still bad behavior. it's like how slums breed crime and criminalize poor people. the situation is bad, and i can empathize, but i'm still mad at my mugger.
#71
Posted 06 September 2015 - 07:33 PM
my baby brother got a ccw when he turned 18... and he's a twat. really not that difficult.
You are correct in a way, in some states it can be easy, in others its rather difficult and time consuming. I'm just sick of a group of individuals assuming that anyone with a CCW is a criminal. Thats all, I'm sure you and your brother would feel the same way.
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#72
Posted 06 September 2015 - 08:33 PM
In fact thats really the only thing I can think about that I'd love to discuss with you and Crafty and according to Josh, Its not a good idea to discuss state and federal gun regulations in threads with escalated tension levels. Which sucks, cause its easy to show you one regulation about CCW's that completely nullifies your entire argument you are trying to setup.
So let me get this straight. The guy who said "My concealed carry license is valid in your state and I'm only a 3 hour drive from your house" imagines "serious security concerns" because the recipient of said threat said that they'd be tempted to key your car?
This was never about concealed carry laws.
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#73
Posted 06 September 2015 - 10:01 PM
So let me get this straight. The guy who said "My concealed carry license is valid in your state and I'm only a 3 hour drive from your house" imagines "serious security concerns" because the recipient of said threat said that they'd be tempted to key your car?
This was never about concealed carry laws.
lol, oh man. You make me laugh, my sides hurt. I don't know how much more of this I can take. You really think you got something there hounddog.
Why don't you do some simple math and figure out how far you can travel in 3 hours from where ever it is that Xacius resides. You might be surprised at the results. I'll even let you use the maximum speed possible on the freeway completely neglecting things such as traffic.
At least now you've agreed we can quit discussing CCW laws and where they are valid in the state of California should you have one, so maybe you'll quit bringing that deadhorse up. Now if I could only get you to understand the simple formula of distance = rate times time. And the fact that anyone in the United States of America are free to travel to any other state UNRESTRICTED.
Also, I don't remember using the term "house" in my original post, I faintly remember using the term "state", maybe I used a poor choice of words in my altered state. I honestly don't remember what I wrote that night, thats how unbothered I am by it. I'm sure you'll respond by posting my whole post again, which I look forward to for more than one reason, but mostly because I'd like to read it again honestly, and see what really got all your jimmies rustled.
Others have explained the simple issue with your stance Nept, and you refuse to acknowledge it. You should of listened to them.
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#74
Posted 06 September 2015 - 10:41 PM
ffs you're all such children, especially you ss
Edited by PsychedelicGrass, 06 September 2015 - 10:42 PM.
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What's the big fuzzy bunnyng deal? Lots of amazing people have committed suicide, and they turned out alright.
#75
Posted 07 September 2015 - 02:26 AM
But I thought you were playing at entertained, Grass!
#76
Posted 07 September 2015 - 02:28 AM
Of course i'm entertained but you're all still children :3
it's okey nept i still love you
What's the big fuzzy bunnyng deal? Lots of amazing people have committed suicide, and they turned out alright.
#77
Posted 07 September 2015 - 02:30 AM

*Edit* SS: Wow. Are you actually trying to pretend that you weren't threatening Xacius, jokingly or no? At least pretending that you were joking was half-believable. Pretending that you were having a conversation about concealed carry laws isn't.
Edited by Nept: Ultra Lord of the God-Kings, 07 September 2015 - 02:33 AM.
#78
Posted 07 September 2015 - 04:10 AM
#79
Posted 07 September 2015 - 07:46 AM
Let's be clear here: outside of DPS, whose policies I'm not familiar with, there is no VOIP or messaging group associated with Hawken that you COULD join as you have been banned or barred from all of them. STEAM moderators, not community moderators but the paid employees of Valve, have seen fit to ban you and these are people who sleep on KKK-affiliated steam groups.
Through no one group or person's actions but your own, you are persona non grata everywhere but here. So let's be clear. You're not hiding in the forums. It's the last place you have left to fester.
We at THC are pretty welcoming to most all Hawken players.



Come on Crafty, you have been officially called out on your lies. Your online reputation is at stake here, this is just like an old school street race running for pink slips. Its run what you brung and hope its enough. Put up or shut the fuzzy bunny up.
#80
Posted 07 September 2015 - 08:29 AM
My eyes are bleeding ! ![]()
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