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So the gaming community laughed as a whole when Konami announced this yesterday.

 

http://www.forbes.co...irector-leaves/

 

So long Metal Gear, Castlevania, Silent Hill, Zone of the Enders, and other decent games they made.

 

PES is Konami's one trick pony now, sort like Battlefield to EA, Call of Duty to Activision, and Assassin's Creed to Ubisoft.


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Phew, where is the "dislike" button ?


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Phew, where is the "dislike" button ?

But but but, Konami will more than gladly supply you with, erotic castlevania, silent hill, MGS........slot machines!


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So the gaming community laughed as a whole when Konami announced this yesterday.

 

http://www.forbes.co...irector-leaves/

 

So long Metal Gear, Castlevania, Silent Hill, Zone of the Enders, and other decent games they made.

 

PES is Konami's one trick pony now, sort like Battlefield to EA, Call of Duty to Activision, and Assassin's Creed to Ubisoft.

 

I just don't know what went wrong


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I just don't know what went wrong

It`s easy.

 


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is Konami's one trick pony now,

 

I cringed. gg.


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Ugh, I was really hoping for a Zone of the Enders 3 with the fox engine. I was really happy when they teased the Enders Project Jehuty and Anubis...

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Ugh, I was really hoping for a Zone of the Enders 3 with the fox engine. I was really happy when they teased the Enders Project Jehuty and Anubis...

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Siiiighh.  You and me both, brother.

 

I hope Kojima's weird brain lands somewhere good, I can't part with his Kurosawa-aping style just yet.

 

and bring David Hayter along while you're at it


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A part of me expects some sort of Fox Engine fueled Pachinko machine.


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Siiiighh.  You and me both, brother.

 

I hope Kojima's weird brain lands somewhere good, I can't part with his Kurosawa-aping style just yet.

 

and bring David Hayter along while you're at it

Rumor is he may pull a Keji Inafune (megaman creator) and make his own company, and hopefully get Guillermo del Toro back to either finish or restart Silent Hills, though the last I read Del Toro was completely put off from making games due to how Konami treated him D:


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Rumor is he may pull a Keji Inafune (megaman creator) and make his own company, and hopefully get Guillermo del Toro back to either finish or restart Silent Hills, though the last I read Del Toro was completely put off from making games due to how Konami treated him D:

 

Kojima can't work on SHs. SH is Konami's property, not Kojima's. It's not even his series like MG is so the best Kojima can do is make Muted Peaks. But I'm not sure Kojima can really handle his own company, nor am I sure how well he can go back to smaller projects/budgets.

 

And Konami is not the sole reason Del Toro was put off from game making. There was also THQ closing down, halting the creation of Insane.



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Kojima can't work on SHs. SH is Konami's property, not Kojima's. It's not even his series like MG is so the best Kojima can do is make Muted Peaks. But I'm not sure Kojima can really handle his own company, nor am I sure how well he can go back to smaller projects/budgets.

 

And Konami is not the sole reason Del Toro was put off from game making. There was also THQ closing down, halting the creation of Insane.

Tbh with all the rumours of how Konami threat their workers I do not feel bad blaming them for all the problems.


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Tbh with all the rumours of how Konami threat their workers I do not feel bad blaming them for all the problems.

 

 
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Kojima can't work on SHs. SH is Konami's property, not Kojima's. It's not even his series like MG is so the best Kojima can do is make Muted Peaks. But I'm not sure Kojima can really handle his own company, nor am I sure how well he can go back to smaller projects/budgets.

 

And Konami is not the sole reason Del Toro was put off from game making. There was also THQ closing down, halting the creation of Insane.

Like Aregon pointed out, Konami treated their workers like fuzzy bunny, most of them downsized to meaningless tasks like janitor/mail delivery when they should have been working on games.

 

I know Kojima doesn't own SH but look at Inafune, he doesn't own MegaMan so instead he made a successor, Mighty No. 9. The Insane and THQ thing well, lets face it, THQ was a sinking ship before Insane ever began production. Inafune started with a small handful of people mostly close friends of his from Capcom, they worked on the game, then presented it to Inti Creates and Deep Silver and got the funding to continue. Kojima could easily do the same, if not get picked up quickly by another firm. He's got a lot under his belt and is a god send to any company, he's got Metal Gear, Zone of the Enders, Policenauts, Snatcher, Boktai and Castlevania Lords of Shadow. He owed Kojima Productions, not to mention before he left Konami he was the VP there.


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Like Aregon pointed out, Konami treated their workers like fuzzy bunny, most of them downsized to meaningless tasks like janitor/mail delivery when they should have been working on games.

 

I know Kojima doesn't own SH but look at Inafune, he doesn't own MegaMan so instead he made a successor, Mighty No. 9. The Insane and THQ thing well, lets face it, THQ was a sinking ship before Insane ever began production. Inafune started with a small handful of people mostly close friends of his from Capcom, they worked on the game, then presented it to Inti Creates and Deep Silver and got the funding to continue. Kojima could easily do the same, if not get picked up quickly by another firm. He's got a lot under his belt and is a god send to any company, he's got Metal Gear, Zone of the Enders, Policenauts, Snatcher, Boktai and Castlevania Lords of Shadow. He owed Kojima Productions, not to mention before he left Konami he was the VP there.

 

I know about how Konami treated it's employees (although some of the crap is really standard practice, not just Konami). But that has nothing to do with what I said. And even with THQ's issues it doesn't stop Insane's failure from leaving a bad taste in Del Toro's mouth.

 

And Kojima getting picked up is something I would prefer over making his own company. I've no doubt that Kojima could start his own company, I question his ability to maintain it without something like Konami aiding him. Even Keiji's actions has raised a few eyebrows for some people and caused them to give him some flack over Mighty No.9.


Edited by Panzermanathod, 20 September 2015 - 10:44 PM.


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Nothing new, Konami has announced their switch from video game development to pachinko machine nonsense for a while now, it's only natural anyone involved in their video game development start fleeing for their live(lihood)s. I, for one, figured they were losing the plot the moment they dropped IGA in favour of having Kojima head a Castlevania that is more akin to your nowaday 3D spectacle fighter action games.

 

I'll miss Contra, Gradius and Castlevania above all. At least Castlevania is getting a spiritual successor, Gradius and Contra are dead in the water though, dead genres if nothing else.

 

On the subject of companies who gave up on video games and went full time into pachinko, SNKPlaymore, maker of NeoGeo console/arcade board and producer of arcade classics like Metal Slug, King of Fighters, Last Blade, Samurai Showdown, etc is back with a brand new King of Fighters (XIV), full 3D though, so somewhat skeptical.

 

Anyhow, Capcom and Square Enix next. Here's hoping Square Enix end themselves trying to remake FF7, calling it now. CRY FOR YOUR REMAKE, FF7 HEATHENS, CRY.

 

Also, fully expecting Kojima to go the Inafune/IGA route of going solo/kickstarters.


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Okay, apparently Konami isn't getting out the console market. There was an article released on 9/20 (which is yesterday as of this writing) that they still plan to release console games.

 

Just... apparently not AAA titles. And while it's true that you don't need a big budget to make a good game... it's Konami. They are going to muck things up.



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I much rather they don't. They can go play with PES all they want though, nobody cares about PES.



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Are you american? Because while, in general, americans don't care much for soccer, in other countries people love soccer games. I mean, I think it's their biggest selling series.



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Heavens no. Thing is, FIFA has always been the more popular title, be it for having established itself far longer or having a more recognizable name. Maybe PES had a fighting chance many years back, but now? Vast majority of their target market haven't even heard of PES, I do not understand what Konami hope to accomplish trying to wrestle market share from the king of non-american default go-to jock video game, that is, without much of a marketing plan. Seems like they are just clinging on what little playerbase they've built and retained over the years.


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Okay, apparently Konami isn't getting out the console market. There was an article released on 9/20 (which is yesterday as of this writing) that they still plan to release console games.

 

Just... apparently not AAA titles. And while it's true that you don't need a big budget to make a good game... it's Konami. They are going to muck things up.

Imo, they just need to stick to their original plan, back w/e they have lined up for MGS V, and not bother with making anymore console/PC games other than PES. Konami along with Capcom have abandoned far to many awesome IPs just for some quick listings of ones I know of. Snatcher/Policenauts, Suikoden, Contra, Zone of the Enders, Gradius, Vandal Hearts, Bomberman, Goemon, and Sparkster/Rocket Knight Adventures and those are just a few that I can think of.

 

One of Konami's biggest issues has always been ignoring their fanbase or flatout abuse of their fans. Not to sure if you seen this bit of condemning news but they had actually pulled a copyright claim on fanart. 

http://ps4daily.com/...opyright-claim/

 

Then before that as in a rant video posted on youtube by AplhaOmegaSin, Konami actually had a survey up asking their fans what they thought about them bringing back old IPs.

 

As far as what you heard about them doing more console games, that's just rumor, most news outlets are writing it up as a hoax, since it was a "posted call from Konami customer support" by someone over on the MGS reddit community even though the question was primarily about the Fox Engine and MGS not all console/PC games as a whole. For all anyone knows with the formality of the response letter it looks as though it's copy and pasted to respond to any questions about what they came out and said on the 19th.


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Yes I know about all that.

 

As them making more console games, last I heard it was an official statement that Konami is continuing production of console games. But it wasn't a press release.



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Yes I know about all that.

 

As them making more console games, last I heard it was an official statement that Konami is continuing production of console games. But it wasn't a press release.

But as it stands now, they've pissed their fanbase off to much, only diehard PES fans will stick around, add on Kojima leaving Metal Gear will simply never be the same. Unless they make amends for what they've done and start to do things to come back into the good graces of their fanbase they probably won't make it to 2016 in the console market. As they stand right now the only profitable gaming sector for them is pachinko and mobile and who knows how long that will last them.


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