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I was still getting 30-45 frames while moving,   and about 15 fps during combat... this is on 1993 DOOM settings.

 

so, it dawned to me, that it was a HARD DRIVE issue.. or a SERVER issue.

 

 

my hard drive is a seagate harddrive 1tb from 2008...  lowest RPM probably.



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i also learned a valuable lesson, that a game is good because the gameplay is good, not the graphics.

 

the 1990 graphics didn't bother me one bit.   this is why I come back to Hawken.  I ride a mechanical robot, and I kill other people.


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I'm not a technician, but please post your specs.



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Unless nepa shows up you should ask in his graphics config thread. He's very helpful about customizing configs and literally runs HA???? on potatoes (vodka power).

 

i also learned a valuable lesson, that a game is good because the gameplay is good, not the graphics.

 

the 1990 graphics didn't bother me one bit.   this is why I come back to Hawken.  I ride a mechanical robot, and I kill other people.

 

A great lesson and a story to boot. Praise be 2 babaji.


Edited by eth0, 05 January 2016 - 08:58 PM.

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Hard drive access time is only going to slow down loading of maps and textures.  Once they are loaded into memory it shouldn't matter anymore.  So blaming your hard drive for slow performance isn't really valid in this case.

 

You need more CPU and more GPU if you want more framerate.  Hawken is more dependant on CPU than GPU though.


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He is using a potato. We all know what they can do. 
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I was still getting 30-45 frames while moving,   and about 15 fps during combat... this is on 1993 DOOM settings.

 

so, it dawned to me, that it was a HARD DRIVE issue.. or a SERVER issue.

 

 

my hard drive is a seagate harddrive 1tb from 2008...  lowest RPM probably.

well, it have some more details. despite doom-config look cheap, it have much more detalization, smokes, and others effects. it still can give you very good FPS, but only "soft" and "plastic" configs working with maximum optimization.
doom-config maded "just for fun" it general purpose - give you a nice and stylish visual image :3

i recommend you try the plastic conf. it is probably better than other two configs.
also, look in "tweak manual" in spoiler, to setup config with you RAM memory amount. set detailmode=0 also give you are less FPS drop in fight.

i'm not sure that HDD have much affect, because i have very old seagate with low RPM which i use more than 5-6 years.
 


(vodka power)

 

Vodka cooling! It is like a "water cooling" inside PC... but with vodka.
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Edited by nepacaka, 05 January 2016 - 11:51 PM.

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well, it have some more details. despite doom-config look cheap, it have much more detalization, smokes, and others effects. it still can give you very good FPS, but only "soft" and "plastic" configs working with maximum optimization.
doom-config maded "just for fun" it general purpose - give you a nice and stylish visual image :3

i recommend you try the plastic conf. it is probably better than other two configs.
also, look in "tweak manual" in spoiler, to setup config with you RAM memory amount. set detailmode=0 also give you are less FPS drop in fight.

i'm not sure that HDD have much affect, because i have very old seagate with low RPM which i use more than 5-6 years.
 

Vodka cooling! It is like a "water cooling" inside PC... but with vodka.
xD

 

 

 

Shaken, not stirred please... :smile: 

 

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SSD upgrade time!

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I'm not a technician, but please post your specs.

IMO this is the key here.

There's no point in talking about this topic if we don't know if your PC can handle Hawken



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In last topic Angry tell, that his PC cost about ~900 baba-ji credits. Probably, he have not bad PC for hawken.

Kompotka 3000. 2D ha?ken game: https://community.pl...ve/?hl=kompotka

Interceptor, B-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...itdefence-mech/

Challenger, C-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...ccepted-thread/

G2-Brawler, C-class mech concept: https://community.pl...pacaka-is-here/

Kinetik, B-class mech concept: https://community.pl...ass-shotgunner/

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In last topic Angry tell, that his PC cost about ~900 baba-ji credits. Probably, he have not bad PC for hawken.

Someone could spend double those baba-ji credits and still have a bad PC...you never know till you know....did I just say that ?  :tongue:

 

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Don't run to your death....walk

 

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What's the point of knowing how much the damn thing costs?

The laptop I use to play Hawken cost 3.2K and I still don't get 120fps, because its not a gaming laptop, so duh!

Whats the problem with spilling the beans on the specs?


Edited by ..., 06 January 2016 - 11:22 AM.


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im honored by all of your presence...  because you care about my FPS...  one day, in the future, i shall repay back the debt.  a hamster always pays his debts.

 

amd phenom II x6 1055T processor, 2.8 ghz.

 

4. gig memory

 

5850 radeon ati ..

 

 

 

wow..where can i find my specs  on the computer.   going to properties on my computer doesn't show what i have anymore.


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im honored by all of your presence...  because you care about my FPS...  one day, in the future, i shall repay back the debt.  a hamster always pays his debts.

 

amd phenom II x6 1055T processor, 2.8 ghz.

 

4. gig memory

 

5850 radeon ati ..

 

 

 

wow..where can i find my specs  on the computer.   going to properties on my computer doesn't show what i have anymore.

Go to my Control Panel, click on (System) ...that will give you a brief rundown of your basic system specs.

if you need more detailed info, you can download and install some small monitor programs such as

TechPowerUp GPU-Z

CPUID CPU-Z

or PC Wizard (gives a thorough breakdown of all your system specs)

Also if you have AMD CCC installed along with your gpu driver package, you can open that and look at you system hardware and software info.

 

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Don't run to your death....walk

 

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im honored by all of your presence...  because you care about my FPS...  one day, in the future, i shall repay back the debt.  a hamster always pays his debts.

 

amd phenom II x6 1055T processor, 2.8 ghz.

 

4. gig memory

 

5850 radeon ati ..

 

 

 

wow..where can i find my specs  on the computer.   going to properties on my computer doesn't show what i have anymore.

 

Personal fav, just a download and a screenshot away. I usually uninstall it after getting the screenshot anyway.

 

Speccy


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5850 is right at the minimum for hawken. You seem to have enough cpu and ram to run plastic hawken, maybe AV or something else using resources?

I like going against the best of any game I play. Helps you in the long run n motivates u to do more. Always room for improvement not failure

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With ati cards I felt it very important to use the driver cleaner from driver heaven when installing the catalyst drivers and software otherwise the new driver can kill your framerate. You  may find a older driver version that works better for your card compared the newest one out.


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I guess I should mention, I used to have a similar problem where moving would cause my framerate to dip. This was back when I was still on XP 32-bit. The problem went away after upgrading to Win8 64-bit. I think the game has a serious flaw with running on 32-bit systems even though it's a 32-bit game.

 

Are you by chance still using a 32-bit OS?

 

Also, I used to play the game with a 4850 and got decent fps, so your 5850 should be fine.



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i play on 64

 

yes, i have a feeling it might be the driver updates. because, everytime i update it. the games slower, i get frustrated, then i qiut the game for a few months.  then i come back, feel the same feelings i had a while back, then quit...

 

most of 2014 and 2015 was like this.. and i stopped playing hawken because of it.  but i can play DOTA on  60 fps on high graphics settings?  

 

i going the route to AMD...

 

i shouldive went Nvidia, because most games are tailored to that company.   stat wise, AMD seems better and cheaper, but in the long run, i go with nvidia now. 


Edited by angryhampster, 06 January 2016 - 05:12 PM.


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Personal fav, just a download and a screenshot away. I usually uninstall it after getting the screenshot anyway.

 

Speccy

 

dxdiag is the easiest way to find your system specs.

 

just type dxdiag in the search prompt of your start window, or cortana if win10.


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also, 

 

my computer will occasionally crap out and do the exact same thing angry is describing...  from a steady 60fps to 15fps in a cqb.

 

 

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System Information
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      Time of this report: 1/10/2016, 08:51:55
             Machine name: HAWKBOX
         Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 10586) (10586.th2_release.151121-2308)
                 Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
      System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
             System Model: System Product Name
                     BIOS: BIOS Date: 11/09/12 15:51:56 Ver: 14.08
                Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.5GHz
                   Memory: 16384MB RAM
      Available OS Memory: 16328MB RAM
                Page File: 3532MB used, 29179MB available
              Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
          DirectX Version: 12
      DX Setup Parameters: Not found
         User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
       System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
          DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
                 Miracast: Not Available
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
           DxDiag Version: 10.00.10586.0000 64bit Unicode
 
------------
DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
      Display Tab 2: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
 
--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)
 
---------------
Display Devices
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          Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780
       Manufacturer: NVIDIA
          Chip type: GeForce GTX 780
           DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
        Device Type: Full Device
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1004&SUBSYS_104B196E&REV_A1
     Display Memory: 11177 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 3013 MB
      Shared Memory: 8164 MB
       Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
      Monitor Model: VG248
         Monitor Id: ACI24A5
        Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
        Output Type: HDMI
        Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 10.18.0013.6143 (English)
     Driver Version: 10.18.13.6143
        DDI Version: 12
     Feature Levels: 11.0,10.1,10.0,9.3,9.2,9.1
       Driver Model: WDDM 2.0
Graphics Preemption: DMA
 Compute Preemption: DMA
           Miracast: Not Supported
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported
     Power P-states: Not Supported
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 12/16/2015 12:00:00 AM, 17104016 bytes

 

 

be nice to know the cause....


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i shouldive went Nvidia, because most games are tailored to that company.   stat wise, AMD seems better and cheaper, but in the long run, i go with nvidia now.

 

 

/cries

 

no one ever bothered to correct me or say that I was wrong...

 

i am ashamed to be a AMD owner.



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i7, 16gb, gtx780. still play with 30 fps...lol.
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dis is ha?ken, baby!
thats how it working! :3


Edited by nepacaka, 10 January 2016 - 11:18 AM.

Kompotka 3000. 2D ha?ken game: https://community.pl...ve/?hl=kompotka

Interceptor, B-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...itdefence-mech/

Challenger, C-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...ccepted-thread/

G2-Brawler, C-class mech concept: https://community.pl...pacaka-is-here/

Kinetik, B-class mech concept: https://community.pl...ass-shotgunner/

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i think hawken needs that fog setup..

 

you know, off the distance, there is a fight happening.

 

maybe the fight across the map is causing lag to the pilot.

 

 

in all honesty, the maps are pretty huge and very detailed.



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i7, 16gb, gtx780. still play with 30 fps...lol.
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dis is ha?ken, baby!
thats how it working! :3

 

???

 

i7, 16 gb, gt 750 M -> 50-80 fps

 

texture medium

graphic details high + custom settings (no depth of field and all this crap)



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???

 

i'm just a joke.

also, on a serious note, many ppl say that they very powerfull PC, and any other games working on ultra without problem, but not hawken.
also, i'm not sure that 50-80 fps it is normal for you PC spec ;D

i can have 30-60 fps on medium settings without config, even with depth of fields and effects. (30 in fight, 60 when i'm alone) with my i3, hd5770, 2gb. Did you find that something wrong with this game? :D
so...


Kompotka 3000. 2D ha?ken game: https://community.pl...ve/?hl=kompotka

Interceptor, B-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...itdefence-mech/

Challenger, C-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...ccepted-thread/

G2-Brawler, C-class mech concept: https://community.pl...pacaka-is-here/

Kinetik, B-class mech concept: https://community.pl...ass-shotgunner/

Melter, A-class mech concept: https://community.pl...-class-support/


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/cries

 

no one ever bothered to correct me or say that I was wrong...

 

i am ashamed to be a AMD owner.

 

The game might be a bit more compatible with Nvida but I've been running it (granted) on a AMD R9 290x and getting a solid 40-50 fps (at medium settings) even with my current cpu.

I think Hawken is more cpu intensive than gpu (correct me if wrong) and my cpu is ancient Q9550 @ 2.83ghz which puts a serious damper on my graphics card to be able to perform at its optimum level.

So unless you're using a very low end gpu, doesn't matter if one uses AMD or Nvida as long as one's cpu is up to the task.

 

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Edited by DieselCat, 10 January 2016 - 12:30 PM.

Just Relax....and take life one game at a time....

Don't run to your death....walk

 

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i'm just a joke.

also, on a serious note, many ppl say that they very powerfull PC, and any other games working on ultra without problem, but not hawken.
also, i'm not sure that 50-80 fps it is normal for you PC spec ;D

i can have 30-60 fps on medium settings without config, even with depth of fields and effects. (30 in fight, 60 when i'm alone) with my i3, hd5770, 2gb. Did you find that something wrong with this game? :D
so...

For a Macbook Pro I think it's ok.



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How many cores can Hawken use by the way? I assume 4?

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I wouldn't be suprised if it's just one, although UE3 supports 4 if I'm not mistaken.


Edited by ..., 11 January 2016 - 08:35 AM.


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I am curious, Hampster, have you tried reformatting and reinstalling Windows on your hard-disk?  Windows file management system is dreadful and the clutter it creates by exchanging good housekeeping for fast start-up and shut-down can only be truly cleaned up by a reformat/reinstall.  And the way that Windows tacks on all of it's updates as a file that rewrites a file that rewrites a file... every time you boot your computer is even worse.

 

It almost never fails that 'mystery performance' problems can be resolved by a reformat/reinstall.


To be serious for a moment this is just a joke

 





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