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So, okay, if you haven't guessed by the topic title, I'm a new player to Hawken. I heard about it a year or two back but finally decided to try it after Steam reminded me it still exists. Glad to see it still around and still making money (since apparently it has microtransactions that don't seem like pay-to-win, not that I've encountered, anyway). I like underdog developers. :)

 

Anyway! I also run a YouTube channel that I'm trying to get off the ground (http://www.youtube.com/user/Webimpulse). I read in another thread that the devs gave the okay for players to make Hawken videos, so that's exactly what I want to do.

 

Thing is, I want to make them unique in some way, and I'm drawing a blank as to how. General gameplay videos are so passe (he says as he advertises his channel full of generic gameplay videos with a little comedy thrown in :( ). I...need ideas. I wish I was more creative, LOL.

 

Maybe someone here can give me the inspiration I need with a suggestion? I dunno. I'm not asking someone to do the work for me, but sometimes I need a little push.


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I hate that nobody has replied to you yet. :(

 

I'm really not one to watch gameplay videos at all.  If I'm not playing, I usually don't care.

 

As a suggestion though: As a new player to Hawken, you are in a unique position to get lots of footage of yourself being wrecked by the long-term/high-tier players.  Perhaps make your series about a New Recruit in the Hawken universe that is a real screw-up and never quite seems to be able to get the job done.  That would be unique and funny, especially if you have the humility to endure it and stay good with it.


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As a suggestion though: As a new player to Hawken, you are in a unique position to get lots of footage of yourself being wrecked by the long-term/high-tier players.  Perhaps make your series about a New Recruit in the Hawken universe that is a real screw-up and never quite seems to be able to get the job done.  That would be unique and funny, especially if you have the humility to endure it and stay good with it.

 

That's a pretty solid idea, actually.  Might also give the developers some insight into the new player experience.


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Hey mate, it's great to see more newer faces about in Hawken.

 

 

 

Thing is, I want to make them unique in some way, and I'm drawing a blank as to how. General gameplay videos are so passe (he says as he advertises his channel full of generic gameplay videos with a little comedy thrown in :( ). I...need ideas. I wish I was more creative, LOL.

 

Maybe someone here can give me the inspiration I need with a suggestion? I dunno. I'm not asking someone to do the work for me, but sometimes I need a little push.

I've no idea.  Do something you're good at alongside your commentary on the game or something of the sort that works well.  I don't have much experience in this field, so I don't know if that was much help for you.

 

I think the reason why people haven't responded as much is due to the fact that most have not made gameplay vids much.  In all honesty, I'd say just be you.  However, I think it'd be real great if there were more new players like you who record footage. :D



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I hate that nobody has replied to you yet. :(
 
I'm really not one to watch gameplay videos at all.  If I'm not playing, I usually don't care.
 
As a suggestion though: As a new player to Hawken, you are in a unique position to get lots of footage of yourself being wrecked by the long-term/high-tier players.  Perhaps make your series about a New Recruit in the Hawken universe that is a real screw-up and never quite seems to be able to get the job done.  That would be unique and funny, especially if you have the humility to endure it and stay good with it.


I've actually done something incredibly similar, called Do This And Die:



But as they say, great minds think alike!
I'd love to see some others taking on this idea!

AND ITS CERTAINLY NOT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE AN IDIOT MAKING THOSE VIDS
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I've actually done something incredibly similar, called Do This And Die:



But as they say, great minds think alike!
I'd love to see some others taking on this idea!

AND ITS CERTAINLY NOT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE AN IDIOT MAKING THOSE VIDS


I was literally just about to mention these videos.

As another suggestion, maybe you could find a gaming buddy to make your videos with. A lot of gameplay vids I've seen recently were just as much about the banter as the gameplay itself.
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Welcome. Glad to have you. Keep playing. Get gud :D


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Follow other's suggestions, you could document your learning experience. You have a helluva learning curve ahead of you, but why not work that in your favour?



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dbl post balete plz


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Anyway! I also run a YouTube channel that I'm trying to get off the ground (http://www.youtube.com/user/Webimpulse). [...] Thing is, I want to make them unique in some way, and I'm drawing a blank as to how. [...] Maybe someone here can give me the inspiration I need with a suggestion?

 

I've had an idea for a Hawken video series but never followed through with it myself.

 

The video series would chronicle a player's (you being that player) journey as they become better at Hawken. I'd imagine the first video being a simple introduction to outline the player's gaming history, what they currently know about Hawken's gameplay (if they're new to the game), and what they think they'll have to do to get better. I think this is important because you'd be giving the established Hawken community a glimpse into how a new Hawken player views the game, its players, everything. That's a useful glimpse for not only us but also the developers, and they can use your detailed feedback to tailor how tutorials, marketing, all that good stuff is handled.

 

Sometime later - maybe a defined period of time like a week or two, or when you have gained 50-100 MMR (ask if you need a briefing on what MMR is) - then you make another video detailing what skills you believe you gained / improved upon.

  • Your aim improved? Show us before videos of you missing shots by a country mile side-by-side clips of you finally hitting your mark. What do you think got you to improve that skill? Did you tune your mouse sensitivity? Did you figure out that you needed to turn off mouse acceleration? Maybe just something as simple as shooting enough at other mechs? Great, bullet point that all out and put it in the video.
  • Are you now dodging in a manner that keeps you alive longer? How did you learn to do that? Was it by playing against a particularly difficult player? Cool, make a shout-out to that player and give them props for supplying you with learnings. Link their userpage for everyone to see. Make it so that other players watch your vids just to see if they get mentioned by a celebrity player such as yourself.

Eventually you will plateau. We all have, you will too. Some of us just manage to break out of the plateau in skill / MMR and gain another 25/50/100/200 points because we finally got a skill down that gave us the advantage. Then you hit another plateau. Rinse, repeat. However, what I suggest when you do hit that plateau is that you make a thread announcing you are making another video, but you'd like a celebrity trainer to give you a few pointers a few hours a week. Let people respond in the thread vying for the opportunity to star in one of your vids, critiquing your gameplay alongside you in a game or against you in a 1v1 DM. Bulletpoint those lessons, show yourself practicing them, then tell us how much better you got over time. Doesn't even have to be a MMR focus, it could be KDR, or damage ratio, or how you are averaging half the deaths you were a month ago, all that.

 

Over time you won't just become a skilled player who is well-versed in Hawken gameplay nuances. You also won't just be a Hawken video star either. The best thing is that you will be creating a video guide of how to get better at Hawken from the bottom of the barrel to whatever heights you may reach with clearly documented real-world examples and results. We as a community can point new players or players who are looking to improve at this polished series and know we all had an opportunity to provide input. Get help from the community members in polishing your video and adding cool effects / diagrams / wiz-bang pow fuzzy bunny.

 

We're in the development doldrums and as a community we're restless as hell. We're fighting with each other over stupid stuff because we don't have the excitement of new shiny things to distract or entertain us. TPG vs. non-TPG, high MMR vs. low MMR, smurfs vs. non-smurf players, burst vs. sustain, we've got every niche rivalry you can think of and we're way more passionate about them that we're entitled to be.

 

Luckily we've almost unanimously agree that the tutorial in-game sucks. For some of us, an opportunity like this may just provide a productive reprieve.

 

Give it a try and see what happens. I volunteer to be a guest trainer or whatnot if you decide to follow through.


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unfortunately there very few tools available in hawken for making good videos other than game play since there is no spectator mode or any demo system. that being said, you could make a nature documentary style or a scientific self observation type series 


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Welcome Web, you got some  very good players giving you some advise on your thread take it and run with it! Only other advise I can give is watch your radar keep, moving, and stick close to your team mates! Good luck see you out there. hog


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let all of these crazy people control your fate

 

because for once the hive mind has vomited out a fantastic narrative idea


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let all of these crazy people control your fate

 

because for once the hive mind has vomited out a fantastic narrative idea

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I was literally just about to mention these videos.

As another suggestion, maybe you could find a gaming buddy to make your videos with. A lot of gameplay vids I've seen recently were just as much about the banter as the gameplay itself.

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Welcome to Hawken mate. Nice to have you here. I like the idea of doing vids from the perspective of a new player. Lets the devs see how bad it is and what needs fixed. I salute you for a tough road ahead. But learn, "git good" and roll on. Good luck to you. Hope we meet in game. :thumbsup:


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I've actually done something incredibly similar, called Do This And Die:



But as they say, great minds think alike!
I'd love to see some others taking on this idea!

AND ITS CERTAINLY NOT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE AN IDIOT MAKING THOSE VIDS

 

couldn't keep myself from remembering that that was me when I used to play Hawken. Don't know if I should come back... do I?



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couldn't keep myself from remembering that that was me when I used to play Hawken. Don't know if I should come back... do I?

 

No.






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