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I have no idea where all of the assertions are coming from which "assume" that there will be a PC update that comes out with the Xbox One release.  There is absolutely no evidence... nor even hearsay that indicate anything to that effect.   Are the PC's and Xbox One's hardware and software 'similar'?  Sure.  But they are still different enough to require far more people and work than I think we can expect from the current dev team.

 

In fact, the most detail we have on this is the line in the one developers LinkedIn page which says "Currently working on porting Hawken to Xbox One."  It does NOT say anything about "also updating the PC version..." or about cross-play.

 

And, "Yes", the news about Hawken coming to a Chinese Android based console is very, very old.  And they told us that their team would have almost nothing to do with it, it is all being handled by the Chinese company.


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so china gets hawken on a chinese console thats under development and you lot have 2 cents to add, unbelievable

keyword is china, because this is clearly part of a bigger picture that RLD prolly has very little control over, and to be fair its about time, it took several iterations of xboxs playstations and nintendo's for china to realize they needed a (new?) chinese developed console with the latest gen tech (although i thought they'd not even/never bother with it)


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if u can make half a penny from 1/4 of the chinese population,y

 

you are a millionaire. lol

 

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if u can make half a penny, from 1/4 of the chinese population, then the chinese population = 2cents

 

 

if u can make half a penny from 1/4 of the chinese population,y

 

you are a millionaire. lol

 

my jewish business professor taught me that

 

so china gets hawken on a chinese console thats under development and you lot have 2 cents to add, unbelievable

 

trolol


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Of the two big players in the console race, Reloaded went with the Xbox, really? The Xbox has half the player base, lower computational power, and MS is shifting ever more towards pc gaming. The PS4 would have been the no brainer choice with over 40 million units in the wild, playstation neo right around the corner, and Reloaded could have capitalized on PS VR, making Hawken a launch title for that hardware. 

 

And the chinese deal, a knock off console? WUT?! China just legalized the sale of consoles in the country, xbox one and ps4 aren't selling because the chinese market prefers playing on pc, so what does reloaded go and do, put Hawken on a console. May as well make a card game while they're at it, maybe a movie, and a comic book series. 

 

I know I'm playing arm chair executive, but man, it's like misstep after misstep with this game, regardless of who's at the helm. The Hawken curse has to be real, there's no way to explain how this game is mismanaged time and again.


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Of the two big players in the console race, Reloaded went with the Xbox, really? The Xbox has half the player base, lower computational power, and MS is shifting ever more towards pc gaming. The PS4 would have been the no brainer choice with over 40 million units in the wild, playstation neo right around the corner, and Reloaded could have capitalized on PS VR, making Hawken a launch title for that hardware. 

 

And the chinese deal, a knock off console? WUT?! China just legalized the sale of consoles in the country, xbox one and ps4 aren't selling because the chinese market prefers playing on pc, so what does reloaded go and do, put Hawken on a console. May as well make a card game while they're at it, maybe a movie, and a comic book series. 

 

I know I'm playing arm chair executive, but man, it's like misstep after misstep with this game, regardless of who's at the helm. The Hawken curse has to be real, there's no way to explain how this game is mismanaged time and again.

 

I think it is more likely that either the choice was made based on what would would be easiest dev wise, or that this is all fuzzy bunny and these showings in the console market are all meaningless rumblings.


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I think it is more likely that either the choice was made based on what would would be easiest dev wise, or that this is all fuzzy bunny and these showings in the console market are all meaningless rumblings.

 

If you mean Xbox One vs PS4, both consoles have an AMD 8 core processor with comparable clock speeds, both have x86 architecture, both have AMD gpu's (ps4 @ 1.84 tflops & xbox 1.31 tflops, both leave around 5gb of ram for developers to use, the only real difference between the two is that the PS4 has sold MORE THAN TWICE AS MANY UNITS as the Xbox One.  


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the platform choice was likely driven by who would pay for Hawken to be ported.

 

Remember, most of the game is above the details of HW; if the HAL (hardware abstraction layer) exists at all. 

 

In any case, QEMU will emulate an x86 environment on any processor; the question is underlying speed: if the hardware is fast-enough, you don't need to rewrite HAL and system/environment interfaces


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he only real difference between the two is that the PS4 has sold MORE THAN TWICE AS MANY UNITS as the Xbox One.  

 

I assume they have different operating systems, and Sony and MS each have their own distinct methods of curating their little gardens (which is probably an encyclopedia in itself).

 

Even if porting is very similar though, if you have a team that has already done an Xbone port but hasn't touched the PS4 the cost and risk associated with a PS4 port is higher than and Xbone port. Perhaps the potential return on investment is higher, but if the management at RLD doesn't think they can eat the cost it isn't going to happen.

 

Additionally, simply having a larger user base does not make a market inherently more lucrative. If that were the case, all games would be mobile games.


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If there's a deal that MS courted Reloaded to put Hawken on the Xbox, thats fine I get it. But to suggest that a game on Xbox has a better chance of success over a ps4 version is foolish. PS4 versions of games like Destiny,call of duty, battlefront etc have all outsold the Xbox version by a staggering margin.

Using mobile as an example is silly. Mobile games are lucrative for a particular game designed to be played on the go. You can't compare those gaming experiences to those on pc or console. Maybe when people begin playing mobile games with a controller or a mouse and keyboard on the bus or sitting on the toilet then sure, you may have a point. But until then, let's not compare mobile gaming to console or pc gaming. Thanks.

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It should be noted that the Reloaded dev team has direct experience porting Unreal engine games to Xbox thanks to being co-opted to work on the APB port fix, so it would cost a lot less in manhours, which is literally the largest cost sink for an organization like Reloaded.  

 

Success doesn't even enter into it, it's probably purely cost-driven, given what we've seen of Reloaded's business model.


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It should be noted that the Reloaded dev team has direct experience porting Unreal engine games to Xbox thanks to being co-opted to work on the APB port fix, so it would cost a lot less in manhours, which is literally the largest cost sink for an organization like Reloaded.  

 

Success doesn't even enter into it, it's probably purely cost-driven, given what we've seen of Reloaded's business model.

 

Makes sense, and hopefully it works out. 


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http://www.pegi.info...h#searchresults

 

European game rating board, PEGI, has Hawken rated for both Xbox One and PS4.  Hawken may yet come to PS4 as well.

 

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http://www.pegi.info...h#searchresults

 

European game rating board, PEGI, has Hawken rated for both Xbox One and PS4.  Hawken may yet come to PS4 as well.

It says the release date is August 6th. Hm.


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It says the release date is August 6th. Hm.

 

August 6th 2016 to be precise  :sweat:

 

Note that the publisher is 505 Games S.p.A


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If you mean Xbox One vs PS4, both consoles have an AMD 8 core processor with comparable clock speeds, both have x86 architecture, both have AMD gpu's (ps4 @ 1.84 tflops & xbox 1.31 tflops, both leave around 5gb of ram for developers to use, the only real difference between the two is that the PS4 has sold MORE THAN TWICE AS MANY UNITS as the Xbox One.  

 

Just a slight technical correction.

 

x86 != x64 aka x86_64 or AMD64, which was a design created to combat Intels (and HPs) IA-64 instruction set.  The major difference between x86 and AMD64 is 32 vs 64 bit.


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Look at Warframe. They also have Chinese version...And its VERY different.   Like...2 different games.  But money flows and contend being delivered alright.

 

So its not a bad thing...Unless Reloaded screw up big time doing that sht.


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