There's a decent counter in rocketeer/Bruiser, but otherwise the thing is a monster. It needs the nerfhammer real hard.
Nief is pretty broken.
#1
Posted 16 July 2016 - 06:21 PM
#2
Posted 16 July 2016 - 07:16 PM
#3
Posted 17 July 2016 - 09:07 AM
Seeking missiles that generate such little heat, on a mech that can stay airborne for such a long time is a terrible thing for a console game. The Nief is so easy to use to use:
Step one: Hold jump boost. Occasionally dodge if you start to take damage.
Step two: Place you crosshairs in the general area of the enemy.
Step three: Hold down both triggers and watch as the kills roll in.
That type of gameplay rewards you with a ton of kills and wins, but it gets boring quick, and is frustrating to be on the receiving end of it. The only real hard-counter to the Nief is another Nief. People are realizing this, and more and more Niefs are showing up in servers...
It needs a decrease in damage output, Increase in heat generation, and/or smaller fuel tank.
#4
Posted 17 July 2016 - 10:09 AM
But I do agree it is prety broken.
#5
Posted 17 July 2016 - 11:56 AM
Use the Rocketeer or the Brusier[...]
So the best (non-Nief) counter to a Nief, is to use the two other mechs with tracking missile weapons... See the problem?
Edited by (PS4)Arkios-CR, 17 July 2016 - 11:57 AM.
#6
Posted 17 July 2016 - 12:12 PM
Problem is Nief can melt a heavy in mere seconds, this should never happen period, heavies are supposed to be really tanky and harder to kill. If it can do that to a heavy it can do it to any other mech in even less time. Here's the Nief in a nutshell, hold down both triggers point near enemy, win, hell you could close your eyes and probably get kills, thing is ridiculous, I have the Nief but I refuse to play 1 mech because it's op, basically the Nief has ruined every other mech, this should be addressed immediately.
Edited by (PS4)biggn82, 17 July 2016 - 12:14 PM.
#7
Posted 17 July 2016 - 02:34 PM
The nief is a terrible mech but the ability is way overpowered. It definitely needs tweaking because I am pretty sure a 3 year old can MVP with a nief. That being said it is easily countered. As many mentioned the rocketeer and bruiser, but also close range mechs. Seekers are terrible in close quarters because they cant lead targets well. They are too strong on bunker and last eco but that is more of a map problem.
The reason the nief is seeing such success is because everyone is a beginner and dont understand the game yet. The problem I have with it is it removes an important learning curve from the game. Once those players get to facing more skilled people though, they will realize their precious auto aiming nief is garbage and they dont have the skills to compete.
It just needs to be removed, or reworked. It frustrates new players and is ultimately bad for the game.
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#8
Posted 17 July 2016 - 03:29 PM
The nief is a crutch mech with a low skill ceiling and will teach you nothing of the game. Tbh, it hurts the game because it takes away the depth and choices. Its now basically just to fly and press LT+RT. People will get bored of it quickly and going back to a mech that forces you actually work for your kills will be too much for many, making them leave after the immediate gratification.
It can be countered (Bruiser is one example), but it will infuriate and drive away new players interested in the game.
Let us behold how Hawken will deal with the bumpy road this time
#9
Posted 17 July 2016 - 03:44 PM
So the best (non-Nief) counter to a Nief, is to use the two other mechs with tracking missile weapons... See the problem?
At least they are balanced in their roles and had no problems in defeating any groups thereof. However NIEF the problem is the general assembly which is formed like two gun lock on, the ability to destroy with anyone in seconds and extremely annoying mobility.
#10
Posted 18 July 2016 - 08:40 PM
I hope they do something about it because I believe people will stop playing soon if the Nief remains number 1 game after game, I have it but I don't want to play a mech simply because it's mind numbingly easy to kill everyone, I like a challenge. The game is basically ruined by the Nief though, I've noticed a trend, been playing every day since release and more and more Niefs are popping up on each team, getting really annoying, unfun and generally just unbalanced feel. I hear people raging because of the Nief too. There are 30 mechs in the game (I think) and when one shines so highly above the rest there's a problem, my friend who sucks at shooters can take first place with the Nief, I played with a guy earlier today, he just started playing he said, first place with his Nief. If that doesn't tell you something I don't know what does.
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