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#41
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It already has gone south, and there are not enough lifeboats.

Perhaps you could elaborate? again, I am not defending anybody, just trying to understand

 

EDIT/PS: anyone Notice a new Dev Lurking?


Edited by Mevaker, 25 July 2016 - 10:33 AM.

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Perhaps you could elaborate? again, I am not defending anybody, just trying to understand

Well, I was mostly just making a stupid joke, as I do.
 

Uh, you are on some forums, though. There is a wealth of info here for you to see which way the winds are blowing, should you choose to seek it out. I'll help you begin your journey: https://community.pl...nd-there-it-is/

(This is also why they segregated the forums, most likely)


Edited by (TDM) DeeRax, 25 July 2016 - 11:19 AM.

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I see what you mean, again, I know there is much the Devs have to answer for.(hence why i won't I refuse to Defend them!!!) however, I am curious how this will actually pan out; and I appreciate the instruction.

 

EDIT: wow, this guy nailed alot of my own concerns with this game...I haven't finished reading, but...this hurts


Edited by Mevaker, 25 July 2016 - 10:44 AM.

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Soo...

P.S

 

Please use you own accounts...

 

there is ZERO reason for josh to post as Tiggs or Tiggs to post as Josh...

none....

 

I post for Josh so he can continue to focus on what he's working on. The dev update is drawn up over the course of a few days. It's my job to post it for him. He doesn't post as me :P  


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Wow.

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Hello Everyone!

 

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Tiggs will be posting some information you asked for in the next few minutes.  And, if you’d like a chance to talk with me, even if it is only for the chance to vent, let’s schedule it.  We can do that.

 

CapnJosh

Sure fooled me....

 

All im saying is it that it would be nice if we could could trust  the post was made by the person that actually typed it....


Edited by -TDM- Demitron-Prime, 25 July 2016 - 07:36 PM.

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I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned for Hawken's future, as I fear the subtraction of content is going to deter current and potential new players. I have faith in you guys though, prove doubtful people wrong!


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I just want to also add to those voicing that we should really be seeing the posts by Josh FROM Josh. If a long post can be written, it takes just a little longer (like less than a minute) to log into the forums, start a new post, copy/paste the text that was written, title it with 'dev update xx-xx-xxxx', and press the post button.

 

Anyways, appreciate the updates, so thx.


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Sure fooled me....

All im saying is it that it would be nice if we could could trust the post was made by the person that actually typed it....


Idk, does it really matter? We are getting timely updates now and we complain that the wrong account posted them?

Come on guys we has plenty of other legitimate stuff to whine about...
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Spoiler

 

1) I think its worth pointing out that its rather confusing that you used the phrase "overlapping desires" and "make a lot of people happy" in the same sentence. I'm assuming that you are referring to both the controversial opinions in the PC forums, in combination with the unbiased [ignorant] opinions of the console forums. 

 

2) What type of legal considerations are at play? Are we talking about copyright and credit legalities for player-submitted content into actual game content? 

 

3) I vote for data migration over time, instead of delayed data migration. However, I think the real issue that needs to be addressed is, should smurf accounts be migrated? Along with abandoned accounts? I'm not really sure how you would definitively determine which account is a main account, and which is a smurf. Could we have an account migration registry? So that anyone who wants their data migrated needs to sign up for it? This would make data migration much more efficient due to a significantly less load of data. The onus would be put on the individual account owner. It could simply be a web form where you enter your account name, email, password, and to check off a box indicating you want your data migrated.

 

4) I am very glad to hear you are working on new content. I await the public announcement of such content updates.


Edited by WillyW, 29 July 2016 - 05:43 AM.

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Idk, does it really matter? We are getting timely updates now and we complain that the wrong account posted them?

Come on guys we has plenty of other legitimate stuff to whine about...

 

Second that!!!


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Really, leave it alone. I feel for Josh. I know that feeling of totally losing focus when logging into and posting on the forums myself. Sometimes I wake up on the floor, hours or even days have passed and I don't know what I did before and how I ended up there.


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Regardless of what happens to our mechs and stats, I for one am looking forward to new mechs, however sideways they may appear to be. Like it or not, this is what RLD has given us, and a pilot should look to adapt and overcome. Maybe the new build will utilize some newer tech, and this of us with mainline/potato PCs might get a performance boost that will allow the game to run better on the slightly newer hardware that most of us have <cough>64BIT BUILD <cough>

Edited by coldform, 26 July 2016 - 03:18 PM.

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Regardless of what happens to our mechs and stats, I for one am looking forward to new mechs, however sideways they may appear to be. Like it or not, this is what RLD has given us, and a pilot should look to adapt and overcome. 

i'm stoked to try all the new mechs!... well not the 36M but all the other ones.


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I honestly don't care how the accounts are migrated.  While I would be a little bummed out losing my stats, it wouldn't be the first time.  I can live with that.

 

What I care about is losing inventory that I have already purchased through HC and MC (a lot of MC) and my existing HC, MC, and universal XP balances.

 

I could live with having to use a fresh account, provided Reloaded "makes it right" with us.  That means retaining our callsigns, any existing HC/MC/Universal XP, and being compensated for any inventory that we will lose. 

 

I don't know whats more complicated, migrating accounts or figuring out how to credit players for stuff they would lose.  But there is the issue that purchased items/internals/cosmetics in Hawken won't be available in Howken. 

 

I have mechs where I've unlocked every item, internal, and cosmetic available.  What would happen to these on a fresh account or even a migration.  How can you migrate items and internals that are no longer available to equip? 

 

What about duplicate mechs?  HC/MC refunds for any duplicates?  Kind of pointless to have a duplicate mech when there are no internals or items to customize.  It was nice having different setups available so you can swap to a different build mid match, but that does not seem to be the case in Howken.

 

Up until Howken was released, I played Hawken probably 350 days out of the year for the past 3.5 years.  Stripping us of what we have accumulated by being dedicated players who held the faith through the dark times in favor of making a cash grab would be a serious slap in the face. 

 

If you think the forums/playerbase was hostile about Howken, can you imagine the uproar from wiping accounts?  Please Reloaded, have some loyalty and respect for this community and do the right thing.


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My feelings, 110%. I don't necessarily care about losing specifics, so long as I'm properly compensated for those specifics in a fair manner. A straight-up wipe/reset would be the final straw, for me and, I presume, many, many others.


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My feelings, 110%. I don't necessarily care about losing specifics, so long as I'm properly compensated for those specifics in a fair manner. A straight-up wipe/reset would be the final straw, for me and, I presume, many, many others.

 

A wipe without compensation would not only cause me to quit, but also talk sh!t about the game and RLD in any venue possible.

 

I honestly don't think this is something we should be worried about. It's highly doubtful that RLD is bad enough to even consider that, and that's coming from someone who sees many of RLD's most recent moves as mentally deficient.


Edited by crockrocket, 29 July 2016 - 01:05 AM.

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I honestly don't think this is something we should be worried about. It's highly doubtful that RLD is bad enough to even consider that, and that's coming from someone who sees many of RLD's most recent moves as mentally deficient.

 

I want to agree... I really do. 

 

It seems like with the console release they had a deadline to meet and they had to decide what they could leave unfinished and still release the game on time.  (No controller customization, and somewhere I remember seeing that mech customization was intended but didn't happen.) 

 

So, if they have a deadline to meet wouldn't it make sense from their perspective to start everyone on a fresh account just to meet the deadline?  Besides, what incentive do they have to migrate the data?  It seems like it is going to be time consuming, which equates to expensive.  

 

I honestly could see them starting us fresh with the promise of migrating our account data at a later point and then stringing us along a while before informing us that we lost everything.   

 

Please devs, quench these fears with some additional information on this issue.


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The only beacon of light I've had during the talks of bringing the current console build of Hawken to PC is that they said we'd get to keep our existing mechs and gear.  That's the only thing that has given me any hope through this all.  If everything I have were stripped away from me and I was stuck with what we've seen on console, I would delete it and never look back.

 

IF they MUST bring what's on consoles to PC (which, at this point, I wish they would just decide to leave the PC version as is... vs. what is on console), letting me still play mechs that I've earned and paid into would be the only incentive to stay and see what happens.


To be serious for a moment this is just a joke

 





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