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Most turrets are just plain bad and I didn't read anything about changes

The only turret that is somewhat useful in the PC version is the vanguard turret.

 

What could be "good" turret modes ? I dunno, maybe...

- for the brawler it could be just a repair but with the ability to shoot (akka make it immobile, and heal the same as repair)

- for the rocketeer... if you want to keep a turret... why not making it a scanner... so at least it could be a support mech... but it still fell like a bad idea to spam scanner.

- for the grenadier, I dunno, I haven't seen the new gren in action, but on the paper it feels weak (not air-det)

 

 

any insight from console version ?

 

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In b4 lock.haha

Anyways the gren turret is useful in theory with no heat generation. Just the weapons suck because they nerfed it to hell

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In b4 lock.haha

Anyways the gren turret is useful in theory with no heat generation. Just the weapons suck because they nerfed it to hell

 

How bad is the immobility? I haven't played console but I imagine the lack of mobility when turreted being terrible.

 

That said, it would be nice to see a gren ability that isn't just a straight DPS increase, but I don't think turret mode is the answer. Wasn't ADH trying to get rid of or rework all the turret modes before they went under?


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I agree that the only really useful turret mode I see is that of the Vanguard, but only in certain situations when matched with a team that works well together. Have no clue how this all plays out on the console versions, haven't tried it and won't since I don't own one nor plan to.


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Wasn't ADH trying to get rid of or rework all the turret modes before they went under?

we really dont know, as far as we can tell neither vanguard nor brawler were included in any plans on that, just the gren incin and g2-raider

which is the way it should be


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The turrets just need more damage reduction. Put Rocketeer's turret DR to 60% to match the Vanguard's, then increase the DR of the Brawler turret at least to 20% if you're going to keep the healing ability, or higher if not.

 

The turrets are already vulnerable from behind and slow as a gimped fuzzy bunny, so that's plenty of "downside" to balance out whatever benefits these mechs would have from being armored in front.


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Give each heavy an ability AND a turret mode. Then buff turret mode until people actually use it.


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How bad is the immobility? I haven't played console but I imagine the lack of mobility when turreted being terrible.

That said, it would be nice to see a gren ability that isn't just a straight DPS increase, but I don't think turret mode is the answer. Wasn't ADH trying to get rid of or rework all the turret modes before they went under?


Well, I would say it's the way turret mode has always been. Highly situational.

The gren turret mode actually isn't a damage boost anymore, it doesn't generate heat, or very little.

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Brawler turret:
Variant 1) 25% front, increase turret speed in boost (because flak), regen.
Variant 2) 25% front, decrease overheat by 50% (because flak), regen.

Vanguard:
Variant 1) decrease front armor by 10% (because too stronk)
Variant 2) decrease boost-speed in turrent to low. Or swap turret speed with brawler (because flak)

Gren
Have no idea. New console turret with freeze-heat seems interest... >_>

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Oh, I forgot about rockee...well, it's gud now if he don't have EOK/heat in future. Also, I don't want delete turret from C-class. For example, I like brawler turret, but is a very rare chance to use it in fight. Sometimes it is just like unexpected ability, and can help, but is very situated.
In two words, rockee, brawl need a small buff, van need a little nerf, and it will be ok. I agree with turrets.

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gren turret is pretty bad right now. it has a damage boost but the mobility is non existent. you cant move forward unless you use fuel and the distance you cover with a full tank is about the length of one of those cars lying around the map. still generates heat and rof is still the same in turret mode


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Oh, I forgot about rockee...well, it's gud now if he don't have EOK/heat in future. Also, I don't want delete turret from C-class. For example, I like brawler turret, but is a very rare chance to use it in fight. Sometimes it is just like unexpected ability, and can help, but is very situated.
In two words, rockee, brawl need a small buff, van need a little nerf, and it will be ok. I agree with turrets.

 

I agree to disagree :-)

Seeker Rocky is bad when players start moving from cover to cover (i.e. 2k+ MMR players), and vanguard turret is not OP as you can escape quite easily, it's just usable in uptown / wreckage.

 

 

gren turret is pretty bad right now. it has a damage boost but the mobility is non existent. you cant move forward unless you use fuel and the distance you cover with a full tank is about the length of one of those cars lying around the map. still generates heat and rof is still the same in turret mode

 
Great thanks for the feedback. So unless you're Crafty, nobody will use the "new gren" in his current state, sad.

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gren turret is pretty bad right now. it has a damage boost but the mobility is non existent. you cant move forward unless you use fuel and the distance you cover with a full tank is about the length of one of those cars lying around the map. still generates heat and rof is still the same in turret mode


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we really dont know, as far as we can tell neither vanguard nor brawler were included in any plans on that, just the gren incin and g2-raider

which is the way it should be

 

Did I hallucinate the whole G2 brawler thing? I could have sworn eyes had a g2 brawler with a non-turret ability a while ago


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