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You Want All of the Things. You came here because you want all of the Thrusters. Every. Last. One.
 
What's Included in the All the Thrusters Pack
  • You Get *all* of the currently-available thrusters (15 right now) 
  • You Get *all* of them for all of your mechs (because these things are global) 
  • You Get the glory. All of it. 
  • You Get to feel good because you scored them for about half of what they'd usually cost
 
That's right, when you buy a thruster, you get it forever and for all of your mechs, whether you have them already or if they're still but a twinkle in your eye.
 
Now, there are a few thrusters that are seasonal-only; those ones are not included. And there's a weird one we've never released. That one's not included either. Come by and yell at Capnjosh if you find that exceptionally annoying.
 
Get it on Steam right now: http://store.steampo...com/app/372400/
 
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Now this is something I'd actually buy.  Eventually. Soon.  Take my money.


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Am I wrong, or does this cost exactly the same as the Sharpshooter bundle?


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Am I wrong, or does this cost exactly the same as the Sharpshooter bundle?

 

You are not wrong.



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You'd have my money Josh if it weren't for only missing the seasonal ones D: . Now if this were camos you'd have all the money in my steam wallet lol.


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Does this include access to future thrusters or only the current ones?


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You are not wrong.

Oh well in that case

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Oh well in that case

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Yeah, I mean that's the thing, right?

 

The Sharpshooter bundle is monetarily a fantastic deal, but utility-wise it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. This, on the other hand, is only a pretty good deal but is probably the single best choice for cosmetics in Hawken at the moment.



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Yeah, I mean that's the thing, right?

 

The Sharpshooter bundle is monetarily a fantastic deal, but utility-wise it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. This, on the other hand, is only a pretty good deal but is probably the single best choice for cosmetics in Hawken at the moment.

Yes, no, maybe?? I dunno I am confused here  :sad:

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Yeah, I mean that's the thing, right?

 

The Sharpshooter bundle is monetarily a fantastic deal, but utility-wise it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. This, on the other hand, is only a pretty good deal but is probably the single best choice for cosmetics in Hawken at the moment.

 

Got a question, can you explain why the SS bundle wasn't good?

 

 

Yes, no, maybe?? I dunno I am confused here   :sad:

Still haven't answered me from the last thread. <O<


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Still haven't answered me from the last thread. <O<

Ehhh, link? ;-;


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Ehhh, link? ;-;

Here. <________<

 

 

And by far it isn`t.

 

The Nemesis bundle was like the ultimate pack for the game if I remember correctly, and it wasn`t cheap, but it gave you a lot of variation early on. In my opinion, that was fairly prized.

 

This is not.

 

For 20 dollars, you get

  • You get the Sharpshooter mech
  • You get *all* its Items unlocked
  • You get *all* its Internals unlocked
  • You get *all* its Weapons unlocked
  • You get *all* its Cosmetic parts unlocked
  • You get *all* its Emotes unlocked

For 20 dollars.

 

This bundle is bad on so many levels, and I hope others agree with that.

 

Bad in what way my friend?  The sheer value in it is amazing. o.O



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Got a question, can you explain why the SS bundle wasn't good?

 

 
 

Still haven't answered me from the last thread. <O<

 

Sorry, I don't think I ever saw that.

 

My reasoning behind it the SS bundle being not so good is that, sure, you have all these parts and internals and items. The internals and items are pretty cool to have just playing around... but you can get those with HC. Additionally, because most people are not ever really going to want ALL the items and internals this doesn't really make sense. Weapons suffer from the same HC issue, which is compounded by the fact that the AM-SAR is pretty useless on the SS. So now we go to the items that you get that do make sense to put in an all-in bundle - mech cosmetic parts.

 

By the numbers, the cosmetics that you're getting for the Sharpshooter clock in at 12229MC, which comes to $84.92 (at a flat rate of $1 = 144MC). And you're getting all of this for $20! That's more than 75% off - a pretty insane deal! ...except these are all locked to that one mech. I don't know of many people who have multiple custom parts per mech and who change them out regularly. I have ONE, which is my CRT kitted to look like an assault, and the only reason I change it back to look like a CRT is for Night of the Living Fred. Most people like to customize a mech and that's how it's going to look pretty much until the servers go down, because a) they're not willing to spend tons of money on a single mech and b) it can take a lot of time to change things up. So while you're getting this insanely good deal from a purely financial perspective, you're not going to use about 85% of those parts.

 

Now compare that to this bundle, which gets you 5832MC worth of gear, but it is gear that you can apply to every single mech you own or will own. Sure, it's only 50% off, ($40.50 at a flat rate of $1 = 144MC) which is markedly less savings than the SS bundle, but it's a savings that's not locked to a single mech. And since it is quite common to have different mechs tooled up with different thrusters, its utility is a lot broader than a bunch of items and internals and parts that you're never going to use.

 

So while a 75% savings isn't bad necessarily, a 50% savings that you're actually going to use is a lot better.

 

No, you know what, I'm going to go ahead and say a 75% savings on fuzzy bunny you're never going to use is late-night infomercial levels of bad.


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No, you know what, I'm going to go ahead and say a 75% savings on fuzzy bunny you're never going to use is late-night infomercial levels of bad.

 

So like, people walk into my house and criticize my choice of home appliance brand?


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So like, people walk into my house and criticize my choice of home appliance brand?

 

Nah, like selling you a hard-boiled egg peeler.



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So like, people walk into my house and criticize my choice of home appliance brand?

 

I gotta bargain on my neti pot

 

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This is a sweet deal.

Now how about that unreleased stuff please?

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well if i hadn't already wasted about 50+ dollars on thrusters...



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Oh nice.. but I guess I'm just gonna wait for more bundles, then I'll pick one I like most :-P



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$20 for only the current thrusters?

 

Not worth. You need to make bundles that entice people to come back to the game under the expectation of future content. Take a page out of Smite's book:

 

They offer a $30 1-time payment that gets you ALL the characters in the game, including all future characters. On top of that, daily login Favour(same as HC) bonuses, that scale up for every consecutive day you login, until the last 2 days of the week that actually give you a small amount of Gems(MC equivalent). Not to mention, events every now and then where completing a goal gets you a normally paid cosmetic item, and sometimes Gems as well. Probably the best F2P monetization system I've ever seen.

 

20$ for the thrusters as opposed to $40 sounds good when you're comparing relative cost, but I see it more as "The thrusters cost way too damn much" Yeah, they cost around 2.66 on average, but that genuinely feels like quite a bit for a small cosmetic out of many applicable to the mech, that you can't even ever see in action (you will only ever see your mech utilizing its thrusters in the garage, or in 3rd person mode on the map exploration mode).

 

Anyway here are my finalized thoughts:

 

Pay 20$ for all the current thrusters: No thanks. I already have a bunch from way back, and some of the thrusters you're including were actually free unlocks during pilot level progression that ADH removed for some reason (not cool..).

 

Pay 20$ for all current thrusters AND future thrusters: Yes. I'd be totally willing to pay for that if it meant I was essentially permanently buying a cosmetic section of the game. Hell, I'm all for a Smite-style "pay this one time fee, essentially buy the game and ditch the F2P entirely" type deal. I would love to just "own" a copy of Hawken and not have to deal with grinding and unlock crap.


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I feel that the current devs still don't have a clear direction of where this game is going. Looking at the last few changes, to MMR, number of players in servers, and bundles, looks like they're just throwing things against the wall and see which ones stick.

 

Say what you will about Adhesive, at least they had some kind of a bloody direction of what they think the game should be.



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$20 for only the current thrusters?

 

Not worth. You need to make bundles that entice people to come back to the game under the expectation of future content. Take a page out of Smite's book:

 

They offer a $30 1-time payment that gets you ALL the characters in the game, including all future characters. On top of that, daily login Favour(same as HC) bonuses, that scale up for every consecutive day you login, until the last 2 days of the week that actually give you a small amount of Gems(MC equivalent). Not to mention, events every now and then where completing a goal gets you a normally paid cosmetic item, and sometimes Gems as well. Probably the best F2P monetization system I've ever seen.

 

20$ for the thrusters as opposed to $40 sounds good when you're comparing relative cost, but I see it more as "The thrusters cost way too damn much" Yeah, they cost around 2.66 on average, but that genuinely feels like quite a bit for a small cosmetic out of many applicable to the mech, that you can't even ever see in action (you will only ever see your mech utilizing its thrusters in the garage, or in 3rd person mode on the map exploration mode).

 

Anyway here are my finalized thoughts:

 

Pay 20$ for all the current thrusters: No thanks. I already have a bunch from way back, and some of the thrusters you're including were actually free unlocks during pilot level progression that ADH removed for some reason (not cool..).

 

Pay 20$ for all current thrusters AND future thrusters: Yes. I'd be totally willing to pay for that if it meant I was essentially permanently buying a cosmetic section of the game. Hell, I'm all for a Smite-style "pay this one time fee, essentially buy the game and ditch the F2P entirely" type deal. I would love to just "own" a copy of Hawken and not have to deal with grinding and unlock crap.

i agree with dis, i would for sure buy it if it included future thrusters



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It's funny that these bundle threads attract the same people who don't participate on threads that try and improve the game. It's like they just stick around to say what's wrong and when it comes to helping out Reloaded, a company that brought back my favorite game, people seem to distance themselves from the whole notion of positive input.

Anyways rant over. This is a very solid deal for someone who doesn't have many of the current thrusters or anyone who has a few but would like to complete their collection.
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And what's about the vanguard cupcake thrusters? Maybe they could offer the cupcake again. Seems like they need some cash.

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I feel that the current devs still don't have a clear direction of where this game is going. Looking at the last few changes, to MMR, number of players in servers, and bundles, looks like they're just throwing things against the wall and see which ones stick.

 

Say what you will about Adhesive, at least they had some kind of a bloody direction of what they think the game should be.

 

That they arrived at after several years of throwing things against the wall and seeing what stuck.



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Now for all you little smurfs and smurfettes..........don't forget. This booster bundle is for ONE account. Not all of your/our accounts. :D

 

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I'm really tempted to get that thruster bundle bundle and pick up one or two camos with it. Let's see if my paycheck arrives within the next few days :D

 

Only one other package is missing now: All basic colours bundle! Would totally buy that one, too!


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I like what you're doing, but, I already got all those...

Like trying to sell inci on all the paints. ..

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I'd like 2 c them selling a bundle of really ALL skins ever developed, 1 of ALL repair drones ever developed, and another 1 of all part models 4 ALL classes ever developed, including future releases. That would keep me off staring enviously at every veteran using his Y3T1-LEV1TY drone, while i should already return 2 the fight... lol

 

Seriously - all bundles should include ALL the nice stuff that's ever been developed, not only the actual 1s... I would consider 2 buy every bundle, just 2 b able 2 customize all my mechs unrestricted, and i guess there r many others matching my opinion. Of course that's a slash in2 the face of every1 that bought every single 1 skin / drone / thruster 4 a lot of more money all2gether, but i believe if they would offer more complete bundles, there would b much more financial support as actually is, too, and that can't b unfavourable 4 the game in any way. Assuming every bundle costs 20 $, that would b 60 $ 4 all cosmetics available - 20 $ extra 4 the cockpit decorations, and another 20 $ 4 all reticles - that's a 100 $ all2gether - exluding all the internals, items and weapons! That should be more than enough support 4 a F2P compared 2 the prizes usually paid 4 commercially developed games. I guess i would pay 4 all that, if it would b available as permanent offer.

 

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I like what you're doing, but, I already got all those...

Like trying to sell inci on all the paints. ..

Or drones, or thrusters, or chassis pieces, or HUD colors, or crosshairs...

We needs NEW stuffs. Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked that they are offering up great deals to newer pilots, but there are a lot of people here who played through the darkness that just want something fresh and new.

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+1 Capn, you're headed in the right direction.

Would I like to see all future thrusters included in the bundle? Obviously, from a consumer perspective but I think that would be too limiting on future income for Hawken. Plus what incentive would they have to create new thrusters if the majority of people that actually spend money will already own it the second it's released?

I personally am not buying this bundle because I already own the majority of thrusters but if there would be a camo skin sale...

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Now, if you can work on making it so that body parts that we buy can be used on any mech in the same class... you might get some of my money again.  I'm still pretty cheesed that the $10 I spent on the HON parts only lets me put them on the one mech that was active in my garage at the time.


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New visual bundles is quite a good idea, IMHO.

 

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I bought the bundle. All the thrusters are still locked when I login. 

 

Did something go wrong?

 

EDIT. Nevermind, I guess you have to put in a code now. I thought it would be like MC and just show up.


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I noticed that this bundle is on sale for $13.. which is a great deal. It's been a month or so since the bundle came out, not much time at all. Seems like a penalty to the people supported the game and bought it at $20. Any chance those who purchased in that time could get tossed some MC to make up the difference? Thanks.


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