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XP/HC weekends are just good fun.  And this time, here's what I want feedback on:

 

Servers are set to run at 2 different tick rates: 30 per second and 66 per second.

 

I looked at some actual client frames per second numbers, and it seems a good portion of you experience higher than 60 frames per second, theoretically meaning you may see some improvements on gameservers that run faster than a tick rate of 30.  I want to see what you actually experience.

 

I've set up game servers on nearly identical physical hardware in Los Angeles, Ashburn, and Frankfurt.  They will all run the same gameserver load (same mix of game modes).  Half run at a tick rate of 30 and the other half run at a tick rate of 66.  These machines should also have some improved network connectivity.

 

If you would, submit a support ticket any time anything stands out to you, performance-wise.  Mention the exact server name, the time (in UTC if you can), you pilot callsign, and a description of what your experience.  I consider this to probably be the last of the "stress test" type events, since we've now refreshed the code for all the hosting and server management systems, and we've got some stabilized physical hardware.  By the way, private servers will be rolling out for our Pioneer Package server owners, so you may see some new server names pop up.

 

I'm excited to see the results, and I'll be sure to share some data - yay graphs!

 

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How do I test these new 66 tick servers?? Specific numbers or is it all LA/Ashburn servers

 

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a tick rate of 66.

 

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Also, will all the private servers run 66 tick?

 

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My ping is 8 ms better on the 66-tick servers. No idea why.



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Another question cause I can't handle how excited I am to hear tic rate increases......Does the line in ini files 'NetServerMaxTickRate=30' effect our ability to achieve these higher than 30 tick rates?

 

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Tick rates are noted in server names.

 

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Tick rates are noted in server names.

 

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Thank you


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Thank you very much for this.

 

Please make sure the tickrate for private servers (used in TPG and events and so) is 64. Or at least in the ones used in TPG and such things.

 

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Also, will all the private servers run 66 tick?

 

edit: tick

 

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Any chance of adding a few in dallas?


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My ping is 8 ms better on the 66-tick servers. No idea why.

 

 

Um... 32tick/s = 1/32 s/tick.  2x that to receive the ping request in one tick, then transmit it the next = 6.025ms.  Round up if you report in 4ms increments -> 8ms.

 

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yes

Sorry just to clarify, you asked about this I assume when you bought a server package?


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66T servers are awesome.  Lower ping, even in bigger lobbies.  Hitreg feels better.  


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Welp, there goes doing homework this weekend!


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playing in bazaar or last eco is no more a nightmare, thx for those 66t !


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This should be good. I play with a 121 to 134 FPS avg. So the 66 should be better for me. I turn off blur anyhow. Always hated it. Thanks Josh!! Much appreciated. :D


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66s are noticeably better. Can we try a 100 tick in Dallas? maybe? please? if we are good?


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Think the Dallas servers are AWS EC2... unsure what options might exist. 


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My ping seems better. Can't tell a difference in framerate. Curious how is the double HC/XP working? It is not working, not showing currently. Does it start at a specific time? I even tried the old stresstestxp code from last weekend which is what the link in the game take you to if you click on it. It says it is invalid. So not sure how the double XP/HC is suppose to work or when. Thanks to anyone if they know. Maybe I missed something. That is possible. Appreciated.


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66s are noticeably better. Can we try a 100 tick in Dallas? maybe? please? if we are good?

 

This.  I'm certainly grateful and these run fantastically, but I remember seeing 100 tick servers back in '05 on CS:source; is this a possibility?


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66s are noticeably better. Can we try a 100 tick in Dallas? maybe? please? if we are good?

I'm pretty sure the majority of players wouldn't be able to benefit from this due to lacking not just computers capable of running hawken at 100 fps but also monitors with refresh rates high enough, iirc from how valve explained why they do not use 128 tick servers in thieir 'competitive' server.


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My observations:

 

30T is bad with population over 8, less if there are active A-classes and items.  Symptoms:  game puts you on the wrong side of corners, you cannot fine-adjust your momentum by short keystrokes, walls are sticky, enemies microteleport, shots mis-register, you rubberband, and the stutter-start screen refresh often ends with smoke and fire from enemies and incoming you didn't see because a frame was missed.

 

66T is okay up to some level of something - I still notice hitreg and dodge/microteleport issues.  I don't think it's network, it is the same if I VPN around.

 

Edit: The AWS (Dallas) servers are still OK, and give the best (smooth) gameplay when I VPN.  If I don't VPN, I need to be on in the morning for good smooth play.  This says it's Verizon/Amazon issues, not Reloaded.

 

I had AWFUL gameplay on Dallas servers - dallas-ma-6211 and a tdm server today. I had to check to be sure they were not LA servers.

This was at 14:00-14:20 CDT today, 5/2/15.

 

Edit again:  I played a TDM on an LA server, 6619 (66t) at 2:45 CDT today 2/5 which was actually smooth and no hitreg issues.  Josh - are you naming a Dallas server for an LA one to test our ability to tell?


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BTW, where is the weekly update?

I always look forward to Friday because that is when it is posted.


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Hi guys!

I have a question to developers.

 

You wrote:

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But it's already Saturday, 2nd in US and Sunday, 3rd in Europe.

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Think the Dallas servers are AWS EC2... unsure what options might exist.


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I haven't been able to join one all weekend.  That being said, after experiences in games like Titanfall, I would much prefer 66 tick to 30.


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I can tell a big difference on the 66T servers vs 30T. On the 30T servers I feel like i am playing on a Europe server(simulates a high ping) but I am east coast. On the 66 tick ones, I felt TOW and Grenade explosions are much more responsive.


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OK first. The 66T servers gave better ping and more hitscan accuracy reporting. (more tows showed they actually hit). OK now to the second part. I asked before and no one answered. What happened to the double HC / double XP weekend? I did not get double HC and did not get double XP. The "double yellow" donoting XP and HC never lit up and I never got it. I even tried the "double XP code". That took me to a link with the same STRESSTESTXP code. Tried that but it came back as invalid code. I figured that would happen as you can only use the same code once. So what happened to the double XP and double HC that it said on the forums and in game? What happened?


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The double XP/HC weekend should have been active.  I enabled it Friday.  Was it not working??



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I haven't heard anybody say one way or another. I've asked a couple of times and no one has said anything yet CapnJosh. All I can tell you is that it did not work for me. When the double XP or HC is on it shows 2 yellows buttons for each one at top and you get twice the amount of course. On mine, no double yellow buttons and no double XP or HC. How about it people? Did it work for you or not? CapnJosh wants to know if it worked for everyone or not. Thanks and take care!


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I only saw a single yellow button on XP boost when using the code, and I'm pretty sure the double stuff was working.

Did you bother trying to play to see if you got double points?

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Yep, no double XP and no double HC. No big deal. I'll live. Just would have been nice. Oh well life happening. :)


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NO, NOV8TR.  IT IS THE WORST THING AND YOU WILL EXPLODE WITH RAGE ANGER IF IT'S NOT IMMEDIATELY RESOLVED TO YOUR SATISFACTION.


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LOL. Oh my god my head is exploding! Oh wait, no it's not. LOL :D Nept.........I have a oxygen hose up my nose, I think  not getting some points......might be minor in comparison.  BUT..............I will you a 8 out 10 for a funny comment. :tongue: Now if you had added a gif or even a meme. I'd have given you at least a 9 depending on how good the gif/meme was.  :yes: OK I've off to sleep now. Take care!

 

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