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Anyone noticed that his MMR is a pi number?

 

http://hawken.heroku...om/user/kindos7

 

Is this a joke of tool's creator, or devs(which would mean it's his real MMR)? Because I just went through a match, and it seemed horribly unbalanced. Which would be explained if system truly 'thought' his MMR is ~~3.

 

On the other side, >50% of matches are unbalanced, so it might've just been a bad luck :S



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That is his real mmr. I think its the record for lowest mmr ever.
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He is in fact known to be the only guy to bug his MMR, he is so bad that it`s been stuck at Pi since he began playing.


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he's really bad


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>He is in fact known to be the only guy to bug his MMR

 

Nah, if it's his real MMR, it can't be a bug, but a dev intervention. I mean, how the hell would it lock exactly at the PI, with 16 significant digits of precision? :O


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Looks like some MMR cheat. Prolly worth a ban. I've heard of 3D maps, Asus Sonic Radar, and Berling Wallhacks as well. Some say he's gone as far as to aimbot on Rev-Gl Gren.
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>He is in fact known to be the only guy to bug his MMR

 

Nah, if it's his real MMR, it can't be a bug, but a dev intervention. I mean, how the hell would it lock exactly at the PI, with 16 significant digits of precision? :O

 

The website that we're looking at isn't owned by Reloaded (I don't think), so whoever owns it can just set the text value to whatever

 

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>The website that we're looking at isn't owned by Reloaded (I don't think), so whoever owns it can just set the text value to whatever

 
 
Yep, that's what I'm asking, whether it's a joke by whoever owns the side(Ashfire?) or something done by devs. 99% sure it's site owner, but I've heard about devs setting someone's MMR ridicously high for cheating. So it's possible they've set his MMR low... for whatever reason :S


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The website that we're looking at isn't owned by Reloaded (I don't think), so whoever owns it can just set the text value to whatever


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That's a lot of Raiders.



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He has transcended above and beyond the realm of MMR.

Edited by SparkyJJC, 05 August 2016 - 04:53 AM.

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LP ratio and PSR are more important than MMR.

 

Kindos7 LP ratio is high, he must be a good player.


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>PSR are more important than MMR.

 

I must get 7 MMR more to achieve greatness, then :(

 

Edit: Darn, I overshoot it by two. So, I guess 8 more to go.


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That's a lot of Raiders.

No it is not. You cant have enough raiders. And besides they don't count unless they are leveled up.



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Looks like some MMR cheat. Prolly worth a ban. I've heard of 3D maps, Asus Sonic Radar, and Berling Wallhacks as well. Some say he's gone as far as to aimbot on Rev-Gl Gren.

 

That's not very kind.



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This is a call out thread by definition . That is against the rules.

Reported. (j/k)

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This is by definition a call out thread. That is against the rules.

Discussing moderation. This is against the rules.

REPORTED

Edited by coldform, 05 August 2016 - 03:51 PM.

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Discussing moderation. This is against the rules.
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I'm not discussing moderation. I'm discussing the rules.

Also, I didn't see anything about discussing moderation, only excessive discussion of moderator actions.

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Aren't these rules about calling out cheaters?



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Aren't these rules about calling out cheaters?


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"Calling out" other users or Team HAWKEN staff in the title or content of a thread or post.

Everything is good in moderation.

Also, I was totally joking.

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>Also, I was totally joking. 

 
I know, just wasn't sure about the rules :D

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Call-Outs
"Calling out" other users or Team HAWKEN staff in the title or content of a thread or post.

Everything is good in moderation.

Also, I was totally joking.

Is a Shoutout a callout?


 

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Is a Shoutout a callout?


Only if someone gets offended and reports you for hurting their feelings.

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If i recall correctly Kindos7 tried to imply his mmr was 2200ish and that he was a much better player than me...

 

funny because ever since then he has left every game he seen me on...

 

I feel much better about the whole thinga fter reading this thread, thank you all...


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If i recall correctly Kindos7 tried to imply his mmr was 2200ish and that he was a much better player than me...

Here, just for you:

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funny because ever since then he has left every game he seen me on...

So, none? You play NA, I play EUR. However...
Who wouldn't be afraid of the 1574.8018798828125 absolute trash tier zerker mainer?

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Does TDM no longer teach their kids how to behave? Or how to play the game?


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Kindos delivering the rekt...
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Thanks for the answer, Kindos :D

 

Also... WTF, how could he have <1600 MMR after 450H of playtime? :O

 

Scary, but kinda for other reason than he thinks.


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LOL!!Considering i havent TOUCHED my zerker for more than 5 minutes in two years....

 

ummm i dont think i main zerker...

 

also BruH! i would like to point out that when you play with a 200 ping handicap against the people i Do... you cant expect to gain a heap of mmr... get a fuzzy bunnyen clue dude...

 

If we had equal pings... i would embarrass the fuzzy bunny out of you


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Does TDM no longer teach their kids how to behave or how to play the game?


But Kindos, we've never done either of those! :)

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< 1600 MMR; lol. Poor darling needs to GET GUD.

 

( I'm sitting at 2102 MMR right now, just for reference )

 

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< 1600 MMR; lol. Poor darling needs to GET GUD.
 
( I'm sitting at 2102 MMR right now, just for reference )
 
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Git gud fuzzy bunny.
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< 1600 MMR; lol. Poor darling needs to GET GUD.

 

( I'm sitting at 2102 MMR right now, just for reference )

 

XD

 

edit : p.s my mmr has actually gone down recently due to purposely finding the best players i can to play against even WITH my high ping on the NA servers... maybe you should look at challenging yourself a bit more... rather than finding easy games to stomp

 

LOL dont even go there fuzzy bunny...

 

you have already disclosed your tactics for gaining mmr. (agaisnt new players )

 

come to tdm practice some time bruh, i'll show you whats up ^_^

oh wait, you wont because your a fan of scanners and extractors... i forgot mah bad


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also BruH! i would like to point out that when you play with a 200 ping handicap against the people i Do... you cant expect to gain a heap of mmr... get a fuzzy bunnyen clue dude...

If we had equal pings... i would embarrass the fuzzy bunny out of you


I've played with Kindos plenty on NA when he has a ping handicap, he still brings the rekt.
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Demitron, then maybe find a region where your ping is normal? I don't get the issue.



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Demitron, then maybe find a region where your ping is normal? I don't get the issue.

 

there's no one in oceania


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there's no one in oceania

 

thank you silverfire, I'm glad to know some people see the problem...

 

not to mention...

 

I get off on having a higher ping and still getting some great kills against NA's finest....


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That is his real mmr. I think its the record for lowest mmr ever.

Mine is da lowest : http://hawken.heroku...m/user/CapAllan


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edit : p.s my mmr has actually gone down recently due to purposely finding the best players i can to play against even WITH my high ping on the NA servers... maybe you should look at challenging yourself a bit more... rather than finding easy games to stomp

 

LOL dont even go there fuzzy bunny...

 

you have already disclosed your tactics for gaining mmr. (agaisnt new players )

 

come to tdm practice some time bruh, i'll show you whats up ^_^

oh wait, you wont because your a fan of scanners and extractors... i forgot mah bad

 

 

 

I don't seek out new players to boost my MMR- doing so would actually hurt me more than it helped me- something you'd know if you knew how MMR works. Killing 1 strong player will boost your MMR much, much more than killing a dozen newbies. If I end up in a low MMR server, it's because all the others are full and match maker hates me ( that is actually the ONLY way to get into a low MMR server as it happens ).

 

I don't use scanners anymore, haven't done for over a month- I can't say my play style has changed much really which is certainly interesting and I'm thankful for the GOOD players for changing my way of thinking about scanners and scramblers. I don't use extractors on ANY of my mechs, that I can remember ( not that I see a problem with extractors- I don't orb lord with a brawler like many guys complain about ). 

 

EDIT: Oceania, eh? Well that sucks for you- maybe try some 'local' gaming forums or websites and try to stir up some interest in Hawken. Either that, or emigrate- the nice weather isn't enough of a plus when you consider all the killer animals and over-pricing on goods/shipping etc.

 

I play on NA servers a lot since EU servers are often empty- 160-180 ping isn't much fun, but I do just fine usually; lead your shots more... ;)


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something you'd know if you knew how MMR works. Killing 1 strong player will boost your MMR much, much more than killing a dozen newbies.

 

That's really not how MMR works, so allow me to try to educate you.

I try to keep this as simple as possible.

 

It isn't directly dependent nor tied to any individual player in any way, it is calculated through an algorithm that takes into account the server average MMR vs. your MMR and the score you gain in that server compared to the other players to determine the MMR value you gain/lose. 

 

 

For example if you play in a server that's average MMR is higher than yours, and you top score that match you will gain a lot.

even if you bottom score in the same server you won't lose any significant amount as far as i understand this.

 

If you play in a server thats average MMR is below yours, and top score, the MMR gain is much less, depending on how far apart the server average is from your MMR. Bottom scoring in this server will make you lose a much higher amount too.

 

If you stay in a game for less than 2 minutes, it doesn't affect your MMR at all.


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That's really not how MMR works, so allow me to try to educate you.

I try to keep this as simple as possible.

 

It isn't directly dependent nor tied to any individual player in any way, it is calculated through an algorithm that takes into account the server average MMR vs. your MMR and the score you gain in that server compared to the other players to determine the MMR value you gain/lose. 

 

 

For example if you play in a server that's average MMR is higher than yours, and you top score that match you will gain a lot.

even if you bottom score in the same server you won't lose any significant amount as far as i understand this.

 

If you play in a server thats average MMR is below yours, and top score, the MMR gain is much less, depending on how far apart the server average is from your MMR. Bottom scoring in this server will make you lose a much higher amount too.

 

If you stay in a game for less than 2 minutes, it doesn't affect your MMR at all.

 

So, basically exactly what I said then.

 

In high level matches / vs higher ranked players, scoring well ( = getting lots of kills essentially ) will gain you a lot of MMR. Inversely, playing in a low level server / vs lower ranked players, scoring well will gain you much less MMR. Finishing last/low on points in the former scenario doesn't tend to hurt you as much as finishing last in the latter scenario.

 

Why bother repeating what I said, only changing the wording to be less specific about what nets you MMR and what doesn't? 

 

I've observed my MMR jumping 10-15 points in one match after I got just a few kills on better players- likewise, I've observed my MMR barely moving even after I got a dozen or more kills against newbies. I sincerely hope I don't need to make a video showing this occurring- I'm sure people who watch their MMR closely during or after each match have seen the same thing happen. 


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