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I finally got around to getting a good recording program so here is some g2raider in action 

jesus christ 50GB file 




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Amazing.

 

G2 Raider best heavy mech for sure  :teehee:


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50GB file cuz your software doesn't compress the video. Use OBS and follow online guides on how to record games with it efficiently.


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Oh sweet, you uploaded a game where I was on your team instead of that terrible bunker match where everyone was too busy dodging hellfires to bother avoiding you. Is the G2 raider something you can enjoy transitioning to from the regular one, or is it best thought of independently? I don't have a single heavy, but my raider is level 6, figure I may as well pick G2 up.



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G2 raider something you can enjoy transitioning to from the regular one, or is it best thought of independently? I don't have a single heavy, but my raider is level 6, figure I may as well pick G2 up.

 

G2 Raider pretty much plays like a completely different mech compared to the normal Raider imo, your movement speed, the ability and secondary weapon cooldown time are all different. The only exact similarity they really share is the primary weapon, unless you never got accustomed to it with the normal Raider.


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G2 Raider pretty much plays like a completely different mech compared to the normal Raider imo, your movement speed, the ability and secondary weapon cooldown time are all different. The only exact similarity they really share is the primary weapon, unless you never got accustomed to it with the normal Raider.

You're right. Also, seperatly from the cooldown the secondary performs the same way (both modes can be a little bit tricky to handle with raider).

 

Thumbs up to Jelooboi! I'll steal you the dodge before activating the ability, it's nice.

But question: are you sure that the dodges when the ability is activated is good? (cause you don't have deflectors, I don't see the point)


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I finally got around to getting a good recording program so here is some g2raider in action 

jesus christ 50GB file 



I must learn the secrets of being as good a G2 Raider as Jelo.


 

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Pubstomping is a whole different strategic discussion, however, and usually just becomes an exploration of the ethics of dumpstering randos.

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edit: Somehow my lvl30 shitpost (emoji, colored text, and fowl puns included) was made blank so now you get this boring pile of text instead.

 

Super vid, aspiring turkey pilots have their work cut out for them.

 

You're right. Also, seperatly from the cooldown the secondary performs the same way (both modes can be a little bit tricky to handle with raider).

 

Thumbs up to Jelooboi! I'll steal you the dodge before activating the ability, it's nice.

But question: are you sure that the dodges when the ability is activated is good? (cause you don't have deflectors, I don't see the point)

 

It looks like deflectors was swapped for fail safe to optimize Corsair hugs. Either way, dodging during gobble time is a staple and whatever damage isn't avoided still adds to fuel.

 

Now I wonder, do deflectors reduce fuel that is converted?

 

double edit: my edit became a new post halp


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A 6:09 50GB file is writing at about 135MBps (Assuming a constant bitrate)

 

If you want to avoid such big files, use something like x264 on OBS


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Oh sweet, you uploaded a game where I was on your team instead of that terrible bunker match where everyone was too busy dodging hellfires to bother avoiding you. Is the G2 raider something you can enjoy transitioning to from the regular one, or is it best thought of independently? I don't have a single heavy, but my raider is level 6, figure I may as well pick G2 up.

IM UPLOADING THE BUNKER ONE RIGHT NOW HAHA. If you pick up G2 raider you're gonna need to adjust a lot from the regular raider too

 

50GB file cuz your software doesn't compress the video. Use OBS and follow online guides on how to record games with it efficiently.

Bro You're talking to the video compressor boi. This was my first time uploading an uncompressed one though. 

I actually don't like OBS. dxtory has been good to me so far



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You're right. Also, seperatly from the cooldown the secondary performs the same way (both modes can be a little bit tricky to handle with raider).

 

Thumbs up to Jelooboi! I'll steal you the dodge before activating the ability, it's nice.

But question: are you sure that the dodges when the ability is activated is good? (cause you don't have deflectors, I don't see the point)

SECRET REVEALED: Dodging helps build some momentum = use less gas 
I dodge to bypass the turn cap also

another example of weird raider momentum is if you shoot a mech with your corsair while they're in mid air and get all the pellets in, they go flying in the other direction. It's real funny to watch it happen 


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4:15 is the best moment in vid.

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the one thing which i really don't love in G2, that i need reconstruct your brain to play on it after brawler (at least for me). secondary is slow and it is not a TOW. and you need press one more button (F), get used to the MIRV and your ping, changing fire mode after shooting, and many other things which G2 doing.
what i'm trying to say, better always play on G2 or don't play on it at all!


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IM UPLOADING THE BUNKER ONE RIGHT NOW HAHA.

 

If it's the bunker one from today that's fine and dandy, I did pretty good in that one. Yesterday with all the snipers and hellfires was disturbing though.



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Nice video!

 

The thing about the raider mirv against air targets I think is that if you hit them when they are in the air and are not holding spacebar, it forces them to the ground real fast.

 

Doesn't dodging during the G2 blitz actually slow you down?  I guess if you're chasing someone you can use it to briefly pause the fuel consumption and prolong the ability but I don't know if I'd use it in a straight up fight because there is that post dodge delay that makes you an easy target.

 

I also noticed you tend to jerk the reticule away from your target after each shot, that seems really weird but my aim is atrocious so what do I know?


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what i'm trying to say, better always play on G2 or don't play on it at all!

 

I really agree with this. G2 Raider is a lifestyle


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Nice video!

 

The thing about the raider mirv against air targets I think is that if you hit them when they are in the air and are not holding spacebar, it forces them to the ground real fast.

 

Doesn't dodging during the G2 blitz actually slow you down?  I guess if you're chasing someone you can use it to briefly pause the fuel consumption and prolong the ability but I don't know if I'd use it in a straight up fight because there is that post dodge delay that makes you an easy target.

 

I also noticed you tend to jerk the reticule away from your target after each shot, that seems really weird but my aim is atrocious so what do I know?

If you discontinue walking at all during G2 blitz or make a movement input directly counter to your current one (for example: left to right) without another directional input to transfer the "momentum" smoothly your walk speed will reset and it will take the normal time to re-accelerate again to even the buffed walk speed of G2 blitz.

 

Walk speed is a nuanced game mechanic that many new people don't know has to be worked up to, because of past game tooltips that were wiped off the face of the earth. Although the effect zeroing out walk speed has on G2 raider play can be devastating, learning to counteract it can improve "footsies" as I've heard it called in other games, when playing your other mechs.

 

Back to the point(finally I know I'm bad at that) dodging right as or right before you pop the G2 blitz helps override the hang-time between walk acceleration and max walk speed and it can give you an edge in combat and help you get behind your opponent. Dodging in the middle of a blitz doesan't hinder movement assuming you keep your directional inputs toward the direction you dodged, and because you're constantly being drained of fuel while the ability is active you won't mind the fuel-regen delay after dodging anyway.

 

Edit: Unless you have both the speed internals active, I'm pretty sure dodge velocity is still faster even when blitzing so that is why you might see him or another seasoned G2 player turning to dodge instead of just walking straight forward while blitzing.

 

Edit2: Great video friend!


Edited by Flifang, 21 December 2016 - 04:58 PM.

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Nice video!

 

The thing about the raider mirv against air targets I think is that if you hit them when they are in the air and are not holding spacebar, it forces them to the ground real fast.

 

Doesn't dodging during the G2 blitz actually slow you down?  I guess if you're chasing someone you can use it to briefly pause the fuel consumption and prolong the ability but I don't know if I'd use it in a straight up fight because there is that post dodge delay that makes you an easy target.

 

I also noticed you tend to jerk the reticule away from your target after each shot, that seems really weird but my aim is atrocious so what do I know?

So yeah like what Flifang said. there's mech momentum in the game that you need to experiment with to see for yourself. 

I dodge inwards to the target before I aim. C class mechs need to use their dodges to compensate for the lack of speed than to actually evade a shot. We're supposed to take in more damage anyway. If I'm dodging outwards then that means I'm going after the next target basically.

I mentioned this to people in game before, but I have the mouse left and right buttons switched. Shooting the MIRV is pretty tough especially with lag, but your index finger, which should be your most accurate, shouldn't be assigned to the T32 imo and instead the MIRV. 


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Thank you, and goodbye for now.


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SECRET REVEALED: Dodging helps build some momentum = use less gas
 

It's just that dodging during the abilty makes the G2 way slower. But yeah it slows the fuel consumption too, that's cute I've never made it up x)

Also this reaper really had a bad time ;p


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Nice video!

 

The thing about the raider mirv against air targets I think is that if you hit them when they are in the air and are not holding spacebar, it forces them to the ground real fast.

 

Doesn't dodging during the G2 blitz actually slow you down?  I guess if you're chasing someone you can use it to briefly pause the fuel consumption and prolong the ability but I don't know if I'd use it in a straight up fight because there is that post dodge delay that makes you an easy target.

 

I also noticed you tend to jerk the reticule away from your target after each shot, that seems really weird but my aim is atrocious so what do I know?

Dodging during the ability will skip the acceleration after you activate it, so instead of just walking and reaching full speed, you can dodge and be at full speed much quicker. 


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If I realize I'm about to run out of fuel during blitz and say a little more will get me away or get me closer to a target ill self corsair myself. It'll refill your tank by a good fraction and if you are rocking evasive device will probably make you faster. Now, there is a lot that can wrong with this but well timed it can save your bacon or get you another kill.

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ok thats great but....it cant fking broadcast lmao


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Good video I guess, although the mech has flaws but whatever, we've all heard it. Hunt on pilot and swipe those mosquitos out of the sky.

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Video after video I see people making their HUD and teammates red and the enemy green. Why is this? I always left the settings default where the bad guys are red. Is it a visibility thing?



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Video after video I see people making their HUD and teammates red and the enemy green. Why is this? I always left the settings default where the bad guys are red. Is it a visibility thing?

nah its just cuz we have the option to. Green is more attractive to me anyway 



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Video after video I see people making their HUD and teammates red and the enemy green. Why is this? I always left the settings default where the bad guys are red. Is it a visibility thing?



People get bored of the default colors I guess.. I have a different hud for every mech
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Video after video I see people making their HUD and teammates red and the enemy green. Why is this? I always left the settings default where the bad guys are red. Is it a visibility thing?

I have Yellow for friendlies and blue for enemies...


 

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Video after video I see people making their HUD and teammates red and the enemy green. Why is this? I always left the settings default where the bad guys are red. Is it a visibility thing?

Sometimes it helps you with your aim at high speeds or twitch reaction shots, I use a red hud/red allies and grey for enemies.


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Video after video I see people making their HUD and teammates red and the enemy green. Why is this? I always left the settings default where the bad guys are red. Is it a visibility thing?

I have my teammates green and enemies red.


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I have my teammates green and enemies red.

 

Holiday colors  :smile:


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