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I am NepR.  Not jupt, nepx, nept, rapr, or any other names that come along.  I don't play any other accounts.  This question comes up at least once a night.

 

Anyways I've never been active in talking with anyone in the community including my own team i'm on lol.  I am curious though in what the community would like to see change in Hawken and what can be improved on.  The obvious is matchmaking I would assume with this dreaded mmr system.

 

I  feel like when I queue up just to join a game, once it finds me one sometimes I feel like I'm doing worse damage just by playing the game than damage in-game.  What I mean with that is when I play SS many people can get annoyed and bothered by it.  I feel as if me playing that mech can turn people away, especially new players from playing more matches.  

 

Does SS need a change maybe?  I hope so.  Powershot I think should be changed.  I would like to hear what input the community has on matters like this.

 

Lastly only on Hawken i've been having this issue with just one of my monitors turning grey in the middle of the match.  I can still hear audio and even hear me moving my mech but the only way to get rid of the grey is to restart....  I don't want this to affect my team when i play for them on w/e website all that stuff is organized on.  Luckily it hasn't affected them yet.  I have swapped graphics cards, replaced the cords and even tried a different monitor I had and the problem still persists.  But it is only once every two days or so.

 

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Wait, there are different nepr's? Which one are you again?
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Couple things:

 

1. There's a section of the forum dedicated to sharing suggestions and ideas (not that the thread needs to be moved)

 

2. 

 

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i don't think so any changes are require for SS , it's ok thou if you consider Reaper mech .

 

i might be wrong



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Drugs are bad....  mkay.  Drugs are bad when you are trying explaining things to people who might not be on drugs.


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I always thought you were rapr for a while but then you never answered so I figured it wasn't you.


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Here's a fun fact:

 

Our TPG team has a group PM created by incitatus on Aug 12 2015 05:41 PM, it has 12 pages of conversation.

 

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Here's a fun fact:

Our TPG team has a group PM created by incitatus on Aug 12 2015 05:41 PM, it has 12 pages of conversation.

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He's too busy being one of the most menacing SS players in the game to read that.
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Drugs are bad.... mkay. Drugs are bad when you are trying explaining things to people who might not be on drugs.


Huh? I don't follow you. Could you please explain this in a way that makes sense?
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I agree that Power Shot should be changed. I think a single stat buff is boring, see Reaper and Berzerker. Other classes have nice touches, like the Raider holds up weapons while boosting, the Gren has a splash increase, and the Scout get's a fuel refill.

 

As a suggestion, an explosive round with extra damage would make the ability very useful. Even a small amount of splash would allow the SS to do corner shots on hiding/repairing foes or take shots into a group to discourage deathballling. If this ability is timed or only lasts for a single round is up for debate, but this is just one example of how Power Shot can be improved.


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Pubstomping is a whole different strategic discussion, however, and usually just becomes an exploration of the ethics of dumpstering randos.

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I agree that Power Shot should be changed. I think a single stat buff is boring, see Reaper and Berzerker. Other classes have nice touches, like the Raider holds up weapons while boosting, the Gren has a splash increase, and the Scout get's a fuel refill.

 

As a suggestion, an explosive round with extra damage would make the ability very useful. Even a small amount of splash would allow the SS to do corner shots on hiding/repairing foes or take shots into a group to discourage deathballling. If this ability is timed or only lasts for a single round is up for debate, but this is just one example of how Power Shot can be improved.

 

Maybe keep the damage buff duration the same, but add a secondary, longer lasting effect (still triggered upon using powershot) that gives splash for a little while.


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So....regarding your pub play. You're a great ss player but the issue that many have is that you have too much regard for your own life and don't take risks. It's easy to play like a fuzzy bunny and get a high K/D. I'd rather have a low one and win. I still have fun playing with and against you though, mainly because of the random holo taunts and general fun:)


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People get confused cause your name is so close to nept's, and you two both main ss well. Ass bleadingly well...
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Drugs are bad.... 

 

You're no longer in the team or the clan.

 

Get out.


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You're no longer in the team or the clan.

 

Get out.

 

Where's your sig breh?


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Pubstomping is a whole different strategic discussion, however, and usually just becomes an exploration of the ethics of dumpstering randos.

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You're no longer in the team or the clan.

Get out.


Poop, you're always welcome at B
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Poop, you're always welcome at B

 

Poop will never leave cool people like us for you and your dudes.


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Poop will never leave cool people like us for you and your dudes.

 

He absolutely wouldn't.

 

But you're firing him sooo...


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Oh ok, so it is just a coincidence after all.

 

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Oh ok, so it is just a coincidence after all.

 

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No. I asked nep"t" to add nep"r" to our roster manually cuz nepr is too high to do it on his own.

I think nept just copied the name or it was an automatic error ...


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Are you saying he is "I-Nept" to do so?


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Poop will never leave cool people like us for you and your dudes.


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worse damage

 

lol, funny hear something like this from you.

i play with you earlier, you probably deal x2 more damage than whole team in fight :D


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I must admit that whenever NepR enters a Seige or MA match on the enemy side, it immediately influences what mechs I choose - should I evade him, or should I counter him (ha, as if) /keep him busy/ make him look away from the objective momentarily so others can stay on target instead of scambling for cover constantly?

 

I don't think the mech is OP so much as I think that NepR is simply so good with it. I do not think a mech requiring high skill should be nerfed because a small minority of players excel with it. Let them excel.

 

Besides, the almost obligatory hackusation arguments are like a second battle going on in the chat window... Players in pubs are complaining about upper-tier 'intruding' into their match, and forgetting the low(ering) player numbers. They/we should be happy to be able to queue up a match at all at this point, much less a match where the arrival of a player causes a re-thinking of tactics. I'm sure the matchmaking has much more problems e.g at the 300 total players online level than at 800 or 1000. It's like we're asking a chef to make a T-bone steak out of a coconut...


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Hi.

 

What?


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Hi.


Rofl.
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lol . . . rapr.



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So....regarding your pub play. You're a great ss player but the issue that many have is that you have too much regard for your own life and don't take risks. It's easy to play like a fuzzy bunny and get a high K/D. I'd rather have a low one and win. I still have fun playing with and against you though, mainly because of the random holo taunts and general fun:)

I agree, I have been trying to make more of a effort lately to get more involved with the team based objectives.  In certain situations though it makes more sense for me to run and then pop back out to deliver damage right away because most people (excluding tiki taki) wont chase much if i'm not really low and it allows me to use SS range to keep applying damage.  Although maybe if I keep pursuing playing that league stuff (I only know I'm on elite's team, i have no idea about anything else) I will make a push to better learn the game and understand the mechs and different play-styles.  btw I love the fights with you aswell buddy, although you are definitely a much better player than me :)

 

Lets be real here though, I don't follow my stats too much.  My KDR does not choose how I play nor do my win/loss.  Ya'll gotta remember that i pretty much only play Hawken after some extra-curricular activities.  So my play style can be a hit or miss sometimes.

 

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NepR does sniping right by being terribly menacing and the main threat on his team but also being totally forgettable, somehow.  Still don't get how that works.


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I personally don't get discouraged when playing against you since I can clearly see your skill with your Sharpshooter without you having to boast about it. From what I've seen, you're great at positioning and I respect that in any player.

 

 

I agree that the Sharpshooter needs some changes though. I've always been deterred from purchasing it since it felt like such a boring concept as a mech. I mean, a power shot for a sniper...? It feels redundant more than anything. I think a more appropriate ability with a similar, but more versatile, effect would be an instant reload ability. It would allow you to shoot 2 shots back to back. 

 

Or maybe even a sub-variant of the predator/infiltrator's abilities. Relating to the ghillie suit, the ability would passively(?) camo only your front so long as you stay still for a set amount of time. 

 

I personally don't think the addition of splash damage would help the concept any. Might as well give it the heat cannon.


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I agree that the Sharpshooter needs some changes though. I've always been deterred from purchasing it since it felt like such a boring concept as a mech. I mean, a power shot for a sniper...? It feels redundant more than anything. I think a more appropriate ability with a similar, but more versatile, effect would be an instant reload ability. It would allow you to shoot 2 shots back to back. 

 

Having twice the amount of shots would do even more damage than power shot.


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Having twice the amount of shots would do even more damage than power shot.

Well, not necessarily. That's only true if you're using the slug rifle. It would be pretty useless for the SA Hawkins and AM-SAR. I guess, with that, it would make sense that the immediate reloading be limited only to the sabot rifle, to remove the bias. That way you get roughly 3 sabot shots in the span of time you would normally get 2 (shot -> half second delay for cast/shot -> full delay for third shot) while your primary doesn't benefit from the ability. This way the total damage output is actually lower than what you would normally get with power shot (buffed double-shot or shot+sustain from SA-Hawkins/AM-SAR), but perhaps the cool-down* could be shorter down to 20~30 seconds as well as there would be a buff to the sabot's base damage to make up for it.


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Power Shot can be improved.

buffing... my sharps?

 

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buffing...

As your president I will reduce unnecessary nerfs to working classes and bring back the old HUD! But I'll lose the race since I'm against equal rights for techs.


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The SS is fine, it's just the map layouts could have potential to be less sniper-friendly in certain areas by perhaps accommodating them with very modest amounts of cover, even if it was to avoid a shot or two (and that's mainly why shields are awesome). Radar can be taken into account as well, giving away your position in an open area allows to be easily alpha-striked by an SS and followed up by the rest of the enemy team for a finish.



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I have always considered the SS to be one of the most balanced mechs in the game. It's stats are very well balanced and not only does it fit into its playstyle niche rather snuggly, but it also has other playstyle options assuming you have the skill with it. Changing anything but the ability in my opinion would be a large mistake.



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You guys/gals want an idea for changing out PowerShot on the SS right? Well here's an idea, change out PowerShot for stealthshot. When you activate your ability, your guns will not show a radar signature and the sound your weapons make is reduced to a small area. Not just that though, the target that gets hit by your bullets will not get a hit indicator to the direction the shot came from. I'm not done yet, your saber round when the ability is active will not show a smoke stream, making the ability truly stealthy. The cool down and duration of this new ability will be the same as PowerShot as to not interfere with those who use SS as there mech of choice. It always annoyed me how a sniper is supposed to be covert but in this game, you shoot once and the whole world knows where your at. It's worth noting that if you are in the air while using stealthshot the ability will not take effect simply because boosting makes a radar signature. So for the ability to work, you have to be on the ground when you use it. Fyi I'm on my mobile phone so there might be some missed spelled words and please for the love of God, don't nerf my SS anymore that in already has been, ty devs.

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As your president I will reduce unnecessary nerfs to working classes and bring back the old HUD! But I'll lose the race since I'm against equal rights for techs.

Tell you what. You promise to make the G2 Assault competitive by trading 1 vulcan xt for an assault cannon xt and give it a minor DPS boost and change how the Tech earns points by cutting it's assist score on enemies it hasn't done damage to by half and add 2 points per repair cycle so people stop saying it's OP because it tops low mmr pubs, I'll get all of -vR. to vote for you.

Edit: I guess my woes are my own fault though for playing the least competitive mech and the most contraversial.

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Had a similar problem, every 4th or 5th match the game slowed to a crawl or stopped responding completely. Broke my joystick (Logitech) and replaced it with another (Saitek). The logitech has soft to map with, the new one I have to use joy-to-key. Oddly enough all the problems went away once I stopped using the logitech mapping software.  Hope this helps pin down your problem.


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