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someone also remembers the old hawken? cbe 2, 3 open beta

i miss old graphics engine / community, hp mechs, speed, items, sry my bad english

would be great back to old hawken

 sry my bad english

 

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I miss that HUD.


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I miss that HUD.

me too



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We all do. We all have heard this a thousand times. Most a this point will say get over it. Vets have a bingo for these kind of threads. Therefore !hammertime

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why they cant sell the HUD?


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why they cant sell the HUD?

 

We're beating a dead horse here. I wish people would really stop asking.

 

The "old HUD" no longer works/exists in the current iteration of the game.  Devs would have to rebuild it from the ground up to reintegrate it into our current version of Hawken.

 

But really wish people would stop asking "why" because it's literally be answered a million times.


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But thats what devs do.. they build stuff. We want it they make it happen. We throw cash at them..


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But thats what devs do.. they build stuff. We want it they make it happen. We throw cash at them..

 

It's more like they have their own vision, they work towards it.  They see our desires, consider it in their plans but they literally don't have to listen to us at all because a portion of us will inevitably throw money at them because Hawken, validating their existence and their work.  If our suggestions/desires are in line with what their plans are, sure, might be thrown into the development pipeline.  If it isn't, probably will get scrapped.  Reminds me of the backwards boost/third person view/melee desiring people back in the Adhesive days.  People wanted it. Didn't happen because it didn't fit the devs' vision.

 

If we owned/hired the developing company, it'd be a completely different story.  But if it calls for inclusion of super ultra rainbow laz0r swords that shoot unicorns and shampoo out of the tip as mini nukes, that doesn't mean the devs will do so because each of us gave them $5 worth of MC (unless that's Reloaded's projected path for the game).  


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Vision is a wrong word here. Ye plans are the correct one. A money plan! If that lasor sword thingy would bring a million player dollars they would add it instantly putting that vision you talk about aside. Btw there's yeti and glued noodle cup in hawken if you missed them :) It's just natural that vision gets choked in those bigger companies.


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The dead horse has been beaten for so long that there's no horse to beat anymore. It's literally decomposed and is now providing nutrients for nearby flora.


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The dead horse has been beaten for so long that there's no horse to beat anymore. It's literally decomposed and is now providing nutrients for nearby flora.

 

 

 

It's more like they have their own vision, they work towards it. 

 

Sorry Silverfire, but I think Reloaded needs to hear things like this from the hundreds of thousands of players that played this game pre ascension.  That way they might fully understand where the vision skewed and Adhesive lost sight and started throwing darts at the wall blindly.


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every month someone create a topic "where old ha?ken?". Just as a planned. :D


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every month someone create a topic "where old ha?ken?". Just as a planned. :D

 

Would you prefer more "Hawken is dead" threads?



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i don't miss anything 

 

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Jebus fuzzing christoli on rubber crutches

Put the fuzzing drinking rules in the fuzzing forum rules already I'm fuzzing sh!tfaced just from trying to fuzzing catch up
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every month someone create a topic "where old ha?ken?". Just as a planned. :D

the people who critic old hawken posts because they play only after ascension are kiddy as you



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the hundreds of thousands of players that played this game pre ascension.


w8 wut?


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Jebus fuzzing christoli on rubber crutches

Put the fuzzing drinking rules in the fuzzing forum rules already I'm fuzzing sh!tfaced just from trying to fuzzing catch up

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w8 wut?

This is just one of the many articles where player numbers during the closed betas were mentioned.

http://www.forbes.co...g/#61e14266611c

So yeah, Hawken had a decent following before steam, I remember another article where Khang mentioned that he was surprised at the response of interest from their initial advertisement video, I looked for it but can't seem to find it anymore.

Heres another one where it mentions that 200,000 people had already signed up for the closed betas.
http://venturebeat.c...game-exclusive/

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This is just one of the many articles where player numbers during the closed betas were mentioned.

http://www.forbes.co...g/#61e14266611c

 

Wow. The formatting on that page is just godawful. I could be wrong, but I refreshed the page five times over five minutes, and Mark Long still has a head a quarter as wide as my screen.


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Wow. Forbes is just godawful.


Fixed yer post.   :tongue:


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Vision is a wrong word here. Ye plans are the correct one. A money plan! If that lasor sword thingy would bring a million player dollars they would add it instantly putting that vision you talk about aside. Btw there's yeti and glued noodle cup in hawken if you missed them :) It's just natural that vision gets choked in those bigger companies.

First off I feel the noodle cup/dashboard decorations are overpriced. Second, while I have bought a good amount of MC in the past, I dont feel the desire to anymore. This is in a large part due to Lord gaben bestowing a blessing on us every apprx 2 months but also because I have all the main stuff I want in this game due to the obvious content creation drought (which I wont go into detail about because I'm just as tired of hearing about as you guys are). As soon as there is new content, [InsertFryFromFuturamaMemeHere] Ill throw money at this again but until then, I'll save up for steam sales, Planetside 2 and some (gonna hate me for it......) Ubisoft products.
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What if we just give some bacon paint, some bacon holo-emotes and change Bunker from snow to bacon.

 

This way, everyone will be happy.

What you should really do, is replace your parts with bacon, so you can cook games and eat bacon

Obviously the wallpaper would be cooler if bacon was incorporated into it.

 


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I'll save up for steam sales, Planetside 2 ...

I have a couple of SoE cards for Planetside2 that I haven't scratched (2x 1500 station cash)
Maybe I can trade you the codes for something in steam.

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i do remember it being 30000 times more immersive back then, until that one patch that took away all of our colors.

 

I forgave them because FRONT LINE Was a cool map. 


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the old UI might have been cluttered and disorganised and hard to read, but damn did it have personality


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the old UI might have been cluttered and disorganised and hard to read, but damn did it have personality

 

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those crosshairs are garbage tho. 



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I still have the Hawken advance battalion install folder apparently. 


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I definitely miss old Hawken. I much preferred the speed, back then. I also loved the bigger emphasis on these machines being run-down, cobbled-together scrap hulks. All the groans and creaks when they were shutting down to repair... music to my ears. And of course, the customisability! Man... can we just roll back to pre-ascension please? XD


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Honestly the gameplay between then and now hasn't changed THAT much. Hawken is generally still the same mech sim/arena shooter franken hybrid it always has been.

 

If there's anything reloaded should take out of seeing these threads pop up every few months, it's that old hawken had way way more atmosphere. And that's pretty valuable in drawing in a wider user base. Most of us fell in love with the very first trailers that came out for hawken. And those of us that are still here, either fell in love with the game play, or are still in denial that Hawken isn't that game they saw in those trailers.

 

And sure we could argue semantics all day. Like oh some of those assets (sounds and such) where never in hawken. True. Or like, hey Hawken has always been hugely missadvertised, the advertising has never really accurately represented the game play. True. But the fact stands we're all here because Hawken looked sick. And not too rarely do people come around making these threads saying, "hey remember when hawken looked sick?"

 

This happens alot with "nostalgia goggles". Where people are too busy trying to poo all over each others opinions with the facts, rather than objectively assessing peoples perceptions. For starters you should realize perception is more important than reality. Also Nostalgia is probably one of the biggest, untapped creative tools of our generation. It shouldn't be a dirty word like it is currently.

 

What's that? You remember this old thing as being way cooler than it actually was? Ok well lets not point that out and call it a day. Lets take those over exaggerated views and use them as guidelines to make this product as good as you thought it was. If you can separate out those discrepancies between peoples glorified views of something, and how it actually was, you can use those views to make it better than it's previous reality, and closer to the peoples aged perception of it. Hit a nice middle ground with a level headed and sensible approach, you've got a golden formula there.

 

For any game to thrive it needs to draw in a certain amount of casual users in order to keep a healthy base community for newer players to integrate with. And from there you can cycle a certain subset up and up into more serious users. A better atmosphere, cooler graphics, w/e, could certainly help alot with that. I'm not certain it'd be a huge help, but then again it really might be. I mean that type of thing is going to subtly shape your initial impressions of an experience, and continue to grow on and comfort you as you log more time.

 

Anyways, MSV's super professional game plan:

 

Make Hawken like, way more cooler sounding/looking

 

Allow the competitive circle jerk to turn all that fuzzy bunny off if they so desire.

 

You'll see some people complain about that. They'll cry about how it's not fair because such n such user plays on low settings, and it doesn't make for an even playing field. But really? The knowledge itself for those types of settings will be mostly locked behind the gated community of the comp circjerk. And your average user who stumbles across them probably won't even think more than how it's just a simple setting providing accessibility to a wide range of pc specs. I'm assuming most of them won't immediately see a setting and say "hey this is something that could give someone else the upper edge."

 

The majority of people who think that are, in my opinion, a weird niche of players who can't comprehend either the joy of competing, and bettering yourself against other similarly skilled players, or the simplicity of just playing a game for their own isolated fun. The kind of person who has no interest in bettering themselves against others, but can't really have fun unless they're doing better than others.

 

Something something, we all thought hawken was cool, but now it's not, or is it really? and now MSV has made a long post about it pretty much rehasing everything everyone else has ever said on the matter.

 

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Edited by Massive_Assailant_Stingray, 23 April 2016 - 01:51 AM.

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Nerd.



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Heh.



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Most of us fell in love with the very first trailers that came out for hawken.

 

Hawken has been in the same state since I got here. Speak for yourself, nerd.

 

Seriously, I've been here since nothing important at all. The game itself is excellent. My perspective is that I wish to capitalize on that.

 

 

 

The majority of people who think that are, in my opinion, a weird niche of players who can't comprehend either the joy of competing, and bettering yourself against other similarly skilled players, or the simplicity of just playing a game for their own isolated fun. The kind of person who has no interest in bettering themselves against others, but can't really have fun unless they're doing better than others.

What the fuzzy bunny is this. Gods you are so fuzzy bunnyng hammered.


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Hawken has been in the same state since I got here. Speak for yourself, nerd.

 

Seriously, I've been here since nothing important at all. The game itself is excellent. My perspective is that I wish to capitalize on that.

 

 

I wish I could agree with how you see Hawken.. but excellent is nowhere near how I'd describe what Hawken has become. In its current state, this game game can't even pull in more players than, wait, checking steam charts; Train simulator.. When I first starting playing back around 2012 I would've thought Hawken would be up there in the top 10 in no time (had it been on STEAM at the time).  What it is now... I'm surprised it's still peaking around 380 players at a given time.

 

I really wish Reloaded would restore Hawken to that game we had in 2012... back when it was getting all that positive attention and all those rewards and what not.  Then again, even if they dumped an old build from the archives (if any exist), that wouldn't bring back the old community lacking long-time players that we currently have who are raising the level of difficulty and frustration above what many are apparently willing to put up with.



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beating a dead horse; who in the world would do that?

 

 

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Hawken has been in the same state since I got here. Speak for yourself, nerd.

 

Seriously, I've been here since nothing important at all. The game itself is excellent. My perspective is that I wish to capitalize on that.

 

 

First of all, you garbage tier sock merchant, I said most of us. I'm sorry you personally don't fit into the category of "most of us" when it comes to things like hawken play time, or tying your shoes, or not pooping the bed at night.

 

 

 

The game itself is excellent. My perspective is that I wish to capitalize on that.

 

Right, and I never said it wasn't. And I said that probably most of the people who are still here now, feel that way.

 

 

 

What the fuzzy bunny is this. Gods you are so fuzzy bunnyng hammered.

 

No, that's generally just how I feel about the type of person who looks at silly small video game settings, and then complains about how it's not fair for others to play with them.

 

Perhaps you're the drunk one, as your comprehension is weak and your skim is strong.

 

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First of all, you garbage tier sock merchant, I said most of us.

 

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beating a dead horse; who in the world would do that?

 

 

T__T

 

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