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  I'm an old player that was thinking about re-downloading Hawken. I just want to know if they fixed how the mechs perform. Back when I played years ago, it was all about the Berserker and TOW rocket. Later I read that they added another light weight mech that was just as stupidly OP and it deterred me from coming back. What I really like about Hawken is the mech variations but the meta was so far skewed to the TOW rocket mechs that everything else felt obsolete. I was just curious if they readjusted values so the other mechs felt viable. It was just TOO easy and lucrative to rape with TOW rockets and that was the game killer for me. Thanks in advance for the info. 



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A lot has changed, but the TOW is still the strongest secondary in the game.



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In general, utilizing an A-class in random pubs lacking teamwork is going to feel OP and be the best general option for lone-wolf-ing; but A-classes are not OP. When teamwork is actually in play, the balance is legitimately quite good.

I can't say with confidence via personal experience, but i've heard multiple top players claim the Assault (B-class) is the 'best mech'. What i can say with confidence is that many newer and average pub match players often claim the Scout is OP; but as a Scout main who plays comp, the Scout is actually quite difficult to use effectively in a strongly team-oriented setting- it's just that the Scout is a good dueler and fighting one can be hard to adapt to compared to B's and C's.

 

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Seriously please play and help the playerbase grow- Hawken is a great game :)


Edited by CoshCaust, 26 November 2015 - 01:39 AM.

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ping now is better =)


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Kompotka 3000. 2D ha?ken game: https://community.pl...ve/?hl=kompotka

Interceptor, B-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...itdefence-mech/

Challenger, C-Class mech concept: https://community.pl...ccepted-thread/

G2-Brawler, C-class mech concept: https://community.pl...pacaka-is-here/

Kinetik, B-class mech concept: https://community.pl...ass-shotgunner/

Melter, A-class mech concept: https://community.pl...-class-support/


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I don't know how long you've been gone, but I think the game has gotten a lot more balanced. On some maps certain mechs are better than others (1700mmr rocketeers topscoring on a 2000mmr bunker map server) but there is no mech or weapon that is unused due to being terrible and there is no mech or weapon that everybody plays all the time because it's "OP" (scout is almost in solo q tho). 



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Turrets are useful now.

 

And it looks like some good stuff should be happening soon, so bang the rust off before the new content (whatever it is) comes out :)


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Now it isn't the zerker, it is the Assault. sustained noob hitscan weapons with noob tow and noob ability for noob play guarantees you 1st place. Noob, 1st place. Nuff' said.


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Now it isn't the zerker, it is the Assault. sustained noob hitscan weapons with noob tow and noob ability for noob play guarantees you 1st place. Noob, 1st place. Nuff' said.


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Nothing guarantees you first place

 

Unless your the only one in the room.


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Unless your the only one in the room.

You also get last.


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You also get last.


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Anyways, back to the topic at hand. Yeah, things have definitely changed, and the new top dog is definitely the Salt. I'm a shrublord and even I can tell you that. It's got a good "Jack of all trades" build goin' on, so really it's just a matter of figuring out how best to play it.

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You also get last.

 

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In general, utilizing an A-class in random pubs lacking teamwork is going to feel OP and be the best general option for lone-wolf-ing; but A-classes are not OP. When teamwork is actually in play, the balance is legitimately quite good.

I can't say with confidence via personal experience, but i've heard multiple top players claim the Assault (B-class) is the 'best mech'. What i can say with confidence is that many newer and average pub match players often claim the Scout is OP; but as a Scout main who plays comp, the Scout is actually quite difficult to use effectively in a strongly team-oriented setting- it's just that the Scout is a good dueler and fighting one can be hard to adapt to compared to B's and C's.

 

Jump on in man, the water is corrosive and tastes of radiator fluid- err i mean it's fine; the water is fine.

 

Seriously please play and help the playerbase grow- Hawken is a great game :)

 

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I'm also a returning player that's been away for a while. Having gotten burned out on other games, I'm downloading Hawken to give it another go. Glad to hear it survived the "transition" and things are going well.


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(whispers) Cosh don't tell them our secrets....

 

mfw you're concerned people will start using teamwork in pubs

 

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Edited by CoshCaust, 30 November 2015 - 03:39 AM.





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