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harmless_kittens, if there's a name that really bugs you and probably shouldn't exist in-game for good reason (not just because you find it mildly offensive like "poop" or "dong" or something like that), then send in a support request with a screenshot of the name. If the devs feel it's inappropriate enough, they'll likely have the player change it.

 

Just a tip from someone who hasn't really played competitive online games much before Hawken (myself): thicken that skin. I know it sucks to see certain language and behavior in a game, but no matter how much filtering they put in, someone's going to find a way around it. Online games that allow custom names and verbal and written player interactions will always have some level of bad manners and there isn't really a way around it other than reporting them and hoping for the best. Once voice chat is fixed, you're going to start hearing what you probably don't want you or your son to hear. The best option is to click players' names and mute them.

 

If you're concerned about your kids encountering such names and language, I'd highly suggest just keeping them away from online games (completely serious here, not even being remotely sarcastic). Online gaming is widely known for being full of bad language, rudeness to others, s**ttalking, racist remarks, and so on. Hawken is actually very tame by comparison.

 

I'm sure you already know all this, but I just wanted to put it out there based on my own experiences.

 

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Sorry to disappoint you SS, but if you're referring to the same thread that I think of, then I guess the only person getting warned and suspended was you. Certainly not me and hence my avatar is totally unrelated to that, so, please, stop projecting your feelings onto me. Thanks.

 

Deny it all you want, but I don't believe you, I'm sure others don't as well.

 

Then what is YOUR reason for choosing an avatar based on Hitler?


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dude, this avatar is soooo much better than his last one...   

 

and really, a hitler cat is hardly promoting or aggrandizing hitler, it's quite the opposite, i think most agree (odd cat people notwithstanding).


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dude, this avatar is soooo much better than his last one...   

 

and really, a hitler cat is hardly promoting or aggrandizing hitler, it's quite the opposite, i think most agree (odd cat people notwithstanding).

 

What about an avatar of abradolf lincler?


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What about an avatar of abradolf lincler?

Sounds like a good way to get emancipated from your own inferior shitposting


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Sounds like a good way to get emancipated from your own inferior shitposting

 

And this discussion is going to go where?  This is on par with the petition for a PG-13 version of Deadpool.  Something that started (or gained notoriety) because an 8 year old wanted to see a movie pushing the R rating to the limit toned down to a PG13 rating?  :teehee:


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What about an avatar of abradolf lincler?

 

Sounds like a good way to get emancipated from your own inferior shitposting

 

but, but, he's referencing the show that your avatar is from...   

 

and why would making fun of hitler be offensive to anyone but hitler lovers? 

 

hasn't this world come to a place in 2016 that we can finally offend hitler lovers without reproach?  haven't we come that far?


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And this discussion is going to go where?  This is on par with the petition for a PG-13 version of Deadpool.  Something that started (or gained notoriety) because an 8 year old wanted to see a movie pushing the R rating to the limit toned down to a PG13 rating?  :teehee:

I was just going with the aberdolf lincler joke..... That was a *slightly* adjusted version of aberdolf's quote in rick and morty


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I was just going with the aberdolf lincler joke..... That was a *slightly* adjusted version of aberdolf's quote in rick and morty

 

But you didn't have to go and offend me with the s-word...  :ninja:


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And this discussion is going to go where? This is on par with the petition for a PG-13 version of Deadpool. Something that started because an 8 year old wanted to see a movie pushing the R rating to the limit toned down to a PG13 rating? :teehee:


No it isn't.

This is about actually enforcing the existing naming guidelines agreed to by players when they sign up.

It would be like going to see a PG rated Deadpool and getting the R version thrown in your face.
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I didn't read some of the longer posts here, but is someone seriously taking offense to a photo of a cat that just so happens to sport markings that resemble hitler's hair and 'stache?

 

... It's a cat.


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I didn't read some of the longer posts here, but is someone seriously taking offense to a photo of a cat that just so happens to sport markings that resemble hitler's hair and 'stache?

 

... It's a cat.

 

No, its an excuse.


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No it isn't.

This is about actually enforcing the existing naming guidelines agreed to by players when they sign up.

It would be like going to see a PG rated Deadpool and getting the R version thrown in your face.

 

Doesn't everything talked about in this thread fall under good old "user generated content"?  Which isn't rated by the ESRB anyway?  More like people swearing in or around the movie theater rather than the content of the movie itself.  You'd have to never have been exposed to online gaming communities to expect anything different from what's been detailed in this thread.  Have rules been broken?  Sure.. but if Reloaded is going to do anything ranging from nothing to barely anything, the average retort would be: "And?"

 

We can all sit around and talk about this until the first Hawken update or next year (whichever comes first) and it's still on Reloaded to enforce any rules they add / retain from the ADH/meteor days... which are probably cookie cutter "don't offend anyone" C.Y.A.-legal baggage that is baked into just about any game/forum/site/service/etc.etc. nowadays anyway.. that barely anyone has the time to, let alone care enough to read.

 

If you or Kittens wants anything to change, Reloaded Games Inc. is who the conversation needs to be with.  To an extent, I'm sure it makes perfect business sense to limit this offensive behavior, and it's Reloaded's call how strict they want to be.  Otherwise, you'll have people who are sitting on opposite sides of the fence rehashing this discussion till someone throws in a triggering "dead horse" phrase... 



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Regardless of the ESRB rating, the rules exist. We all agreed to them. There is a profanity filter in the game chat, and on the forum. All I'm saying is it would be nice to have the same filter in place when creating player names.

It makes sense to filter them. Cuts down on the use of names and reduces the number of incidents Reloaded has to respond to.

Why is this such a bad thing? Srsly?

To be clear, I'm not offended by any of this. I would just like to not hear my daughter ask what some of those names mean.
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I would just like to not hear my daughter ask what some of those names mean.

 

but what do you tell them about your own name?


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but what do you tell them about your own name?

Is there some hidden meaning behind incitatus that I never knew about?


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Regardless of the ESRB rating, the rules exist. We all agreed to them. There is a profanity filter in the game chat, and on the forum. All I'm saying is it would be nice to have the same filter in place when creating player names.

It makes sense to filter them. Cuts down on the use of names and reduces the number of incidents Reloaded has to respond to.

Why is this such a bad thing? Srsly?

To be clear, I'm not offended by any of this. I would just like to not hear my daughter ask what some of those names mean.

 

What you're talking about is already in place.  And what is happening (people circumventing the filters) is already happening.  If people finding ways to bypass good old text filters is that bad to you or anyone else here.. I can only wonder what the reactions™ will be when voice chat gets fixed.



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Regardless of the ESRB rating, the rules exist. We all agreed to them. There is a profanity filter in the game chat, and on the forum. All I'm saying is it would be nice to have the same filter in place when creating player names.

It makes sense to filter them. Cuts down on the use of names and reduces the number of incidents Reloaded has to respond to.

Why is this such a bad thing? Srsly?

To be clear, I'm not offended by any of this. I would just like to not hear my daughter ask what some of those names mean.

 

Read my post. They do get filtered, but the measures in place are simply ridiculously easy to dodge.

 

EDIT: Whoops. Someone beat me to it. Sorry for the double post.


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No, its an excuse.


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No, its an excuse.

It is a cat.


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It's really a cat.
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What you're talking about is already in place. And what is happening (people circumventing the filters) is already happening. If people finding ways to bypass good old text filters is that bad to you or anyone else here.. I can only wonder what the reactions™ will be when voice chat gets fixed.


No it isn't. That's my point. There is no filter on creating your callsign.

I made one earlier to test it and linked the herokuapp profile in my post.

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but what do you tell them about your own name?


I simply lock them back in the closet they escaped from.
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Read my post. They do get filtered, but the measures in place are simply ridiculously easy to dodge.

EDIT: Whoops. Someone beat me to it. Sorry for the double post.


If they are actually being filtered, then that is really sad because I didn't try to circumvent anything and was still able register something "bad".

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No it isn't. That's my point. There is no filter on creating your callsign.

I made one earlier to test it and linked the herokuapp profile in my post.

 

OK, how about this then: let's say there is absolutely no filter then on call-signs; same problem that the text chat filter suffers from would still apply.  Not much changes.



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What you're talking about is already in place. And what is happening (people circumventing the filters) is already happening. If people finding ways to bypass good old text filters is that bad to you or anyone else here.. I can only wonder what the reactions™ will be when voice chat gets fixed.


I'll be ecstatic when voice chat is fixed, because I can mute it if necessary.

Can I mute profane player names that shouldn't be there to begin with? Nope.
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If allegedly profane names are getting through and it is to my understanding that there is some sort of filter for these names people want, then most likely that filter for names when you create an account isn't working right now. Which means it needs to get turned back on or fixed.

 

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Why not filter the callsigns upon account creation?  A simple profanity filter would prevent me from making an account such as this:

 

I distinctly remember there being a profanity filter for names at one point, and assumed it was still operational. It goes without saying that there should be an automated profanity filter on account creation, but manual approval is absolutely not viable.

 

 

 

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OK, how about this then: let's say there is absolutely no filter then on call-signs; same problem that the text chat filter suffers from would still apply.  Not much changes.

 

Text chat filter works decently, so it would be a step in the right direction.

 

Why are you so opposed to this idea that the names be filtered on creation as opposed to correcting the issue only after someone complains about an obvious infraction to the naming guidelines everyone agreed to?

 

The argument isn't whether these names should be allowed.  It is clear in most cases that they violate the naming guidelines.  The question is how to better deal with it.  Or, Reloaded changes the guidelines to "anything goes".  Either way is fine with me.



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I distinctly remember there being a profanity filter for names at one point, and assumed it was still operational. It goes without saying that there should be an automated profanity filter on account creation, but manual approval is absolutely not viable.

 

 

Yeah, manually filtering them on creation is absurd.

 

I also thought there was a filter, which is why I tested it.  Obviously, it is broken.


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Yeah, manually filtering them on creation is absurd.

 

I also thought there was a filter, which is why I tested it.

There definitely was a filter. 

 

Source: my friends are assholes, when I introduced a couple of them to Hawken I watched them spend a good 20 minutes working their way around the filter. The fact that there isn't a filter any more makes me curious, are the length requirements even still used to filter?


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It is a cat.

 

No it isn't.  If the cat didn't have an incredible resemblance to Adolf Hitler, we wouldn't be having this conversation in the first place, now would we?  You are neglecting the very specific part of the picture that is the root cause of the issue.

 

It's really a cat.

 

You didn't pick that picture because it was just a cat, you picked that picture because of its likeness to Hitler.


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You didn't pick that picture because it was just a cat, you picked that picture because of its likeness to Hitler.

 

How could you possibly know that


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How could you possibly know that

 

Why else would anyone choose that picture?


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No it isn't.  If the cat didn't have an incredible resemblance to Adolf Hitler, we wouldn't be having this conversation in the first place, now would we?  You are neglecting the very specific part of the picture that is the root cause of the issue.

No I'm not, because it is actually, physically, scientifically, a cat, markings and all. That it resembles hitler is a completely a human interpretation of markings on a naturally occurring animal, not something that was painted on or altered.

 

Why else would anyone choose that picture?

Maybe because they think it's ironic, funny, or cute? I'm pretty sure if he wanted to say "I'm a Nazi!" he'd have used a swastika in the background or something like that. Personally, I think hitler cats are cute, and I don't like Nazis, hilter, or the Holocaust.



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No I'm not, because it is actually, physically, scientifically, a cat, markings and all. That it resembles hitler is a completely a human interpretation of markings on a naturally occurring animal, not something that was painted on or altered.

 

Maybe because they think it's ironic, funny, or cute? I'm pretty sure if he wanted to say "I'm a Nazi!" he'd have used a swastika in the background or something like that. Personally, I think hitler cats are cute, and I don't like Nazis, hilter, or the Holocaust.

 

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No I'm not, because it is actually, physically, scientifically, a cat, markings and all. That it resembles hitler is a completely a human interpretation of markings on a naturally occurring animal, not something that was painted on or altered.

 

 

Thats the excuse.  Like I said if it didn't look like Hitler we wouldn't be here.  Thats the specific part you are ignoring for good reason.

 

 

Maybe because they think it's ironic, funny, or cute? I'm pretty sure if he wanted to say "I'm a Nazi!" he'd have used a swastika in the background or something like that. Personally, I think hitler cats are cute, and I don't like Nazis, hilter, or the Holocaust.

 

:rolleyes:, Or maybe they wanted to offend someone while posting an image of just a cat?  To make a sort of double entendre statement if you will.

 

BTW a swastika is an ancient religious symbol that predates Hitler's use of it by a few thousand years, so to say that having a swastika automatically associates you with being a Nazi is some pretty neanderthal thinking you've got there.  Almost as neanderthal as overlooking the fact that the only reason the image is popular is because of its likeness to Hitler.

 

I could understand if when you searched for cat if it was one of the very first images that was returned, but when its the VERY first image returned when you search for "hitler cat", I'm going to have to say theres more than just a coincidence.   Deny it all you want.


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BTW a swastika is an ancient religious symbol that predates Hitler's use of it by a few thousand years, so to say that having a swastika automatically associates you with being a Nazi is some pretty neanderthal thinking you've got there.
 
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Sometimes I think you argue with people just to argue with people.
 
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I could understand if when you searched for cat if it was one of the very first images that was returned, but when its the VERY first image returned when you search for "hitler cat", I'm going to have to say theres more than just a coincidence.   Deny it all you want.

 

I just wanted to add something... When you type the term "hitler cat" into an image search, seriously, what else did you expect to see????


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We're discussing this internally, we weren't aware that it was broken (Thanks OP!).  For now please report name violations to support and we'll get them changed / removed / actioned. 


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Great the servers have been broken for months and we can't get any comment on that, but the moment someone whines about player names not being teen rated we get an offiicial response...


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