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Figured I'd throw this out here, but yeah, I've been in a bad Hawken slump for weeeeeks now. My tracking is absolute shite, I'm short-firing my Heat Cannon like crazy, and my positioning is comparable to Helen Keller on stilts.

 

Anyone have any ideas on how to un-slump oneself? WW last night was :sick:  for me and I don't wanna have a showing like that again... I almost always play better with better players so it was just frustrating to waste fun, high-level play like that. I love this game way too much to be this sluggish at it currently.

 

I'll also note that I play 90% burst, so my tracking 'aint that fancy anyways. I've just been doing a lot of silly things, like self-Detonator-ing/TOW-ing and getting really dumb fall damages that nobody needs.

 

halllllpppppp plsssssss


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Sorry, bro,  and I feel your pain.

I was in a bit of a slump a while back.

 

Thing is with Hawken,  there's SO much to focus on.

 

Buying new mechs.

Ranking them up.

Making HC credits, to buy items and internals.

Finding new players.

Testing new mechs, trying different fighting styles.  

 

 

But,  through this,  I wasn't happy with my mouse setting.  I'm used to high sensetivity,  and usually don't like mouse acceleration.  

 

But,  after a bad few rounds,  I made up my mind, before I DO ANYTHING else in this game,  I'm gonna get comfortable and happy with my hardware.

 

So I spent a day, just tweaking my mouse, and discovered a few changes REALLY improved things for me.  I keep my DPI around 2200 - 2500,  and turned down my in-game mouse sensetivity from 90-100,  down to 40 or 50.    Then I went back,  and added mouse acceleration from 0,  to about 2-3.   

 

This let me have decent mouselook at close range,  and a slow, steady hand at long range.  

 

I STILL could tweak it a bit.  

 

If you're not happy with Flak,  (I'll confess, of all the weapon types,  FLAK is my .... most DIFFICULT to master.  I believe THAT comes down to a lack of comfort, or harmony with your mouse, in being able to track,  anticipate, and LEAD  your enemy.)  Just try different styles of weapons.  enjoy messing with rockets,  blasting with heat cannons,  etc.   

 

Don't focus TOO much on any one area of the game,  just try different things out.   But I believe,  your mastery of the Flak will come, as you fine tune your mouse settings.   Also,  take some time,  work on your strafing,  and your strafe boosting.  Put Air Compressors on ALL your mechs,  force yourself into air acrobatics, as a matter of discipline.   

 

And play a bit of Co-op TDM or Bot Destruction, just to have a bit of fun.   You can cuss the robots out without their feelings getting hurt!  

 

Hope this helps.  Be positive on the battlefield.  Encourage new players,  compliment good players, even opponents.  Trash talk players with dumb mistakes, (shooting guns at battleships, not taking the AA zone!),  and being on this Forum is a great way to see who'se out there.  

 

Hope that helped, and Good Gaming!


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Take a break from solo que and just duel the most skilled pilots you can find for a week or so. You may find upon coming back to pubs that its much easier to kill people.
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I'm afraid the only way to unslump yourself is to keep playing and ease your buttocks into the uncomfortable chair again.

Tweak the settings...
Reinforce your pinky...
Re evaluate your mech and your life choices...
Cut off your pinky and replace it with a robotic thumb...
Umm...throw away your soul...because everyone will hate you for sucking....
...OH lock your door, the screaming will be intense.

Let's see...what else...
There's the matter of puckering your anguses. Your meats will be in pain I guess...

Well there's no easy way to unslump yourself mate.
You just have to keep playing.
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There's the matter of puckering your anguses. Your meats will be in pain I guess...

 

Is that like when a Kobe Beef cow is too much of a lightweight?


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I find that I will hit a plateau for a while, kindof like being stuck, then ill have a breakthrough. Seems to be a couple months between breakthroughs but time does pay off. 

 

Time is the big thing in hawken. You have to put in the time. Knowledge of classes, map layout, exit points, vantage points, and what mech to choose based on the other team's setup makes a big difference. I also alternate which class I play based on what map im on. (Rarely a class A on bunker, for instance) 

 

I had a breakthrough a couple week ago. Its the strangest thing when it happens but you know it when it does. I had taken about 4 days off from the game - loaded up my smurf for some "Pre-game pilot calibration"  and then went back to TangledMantis. I was still playing the same old people and srd range was average as usual, but all the sudden the games I was in started to feel easier and I noticed I was instinctively doing things I didnt used to. I started predictably ending up in the top 3 on my team regularly and players that joined that I recognised as tough opponents didnt seem as tough anymore. 

 

With Hawken, you have to do it. If you think, you die. The automatic reations and movements only come with a lot of practice.

 

This week, after a year of playing, I finally got cussed out and called a hacker. 

Feels good man.


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Edited by TangledMantis, 09 April 2015 - 09:14 AM.


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It might also be worth mentioning that the last couple weeks probably corresponds to lots of good players that were inactive coming back to the game as a result of resumption of development.

 

I know I personally saw the result of this as my MMR jumped a bunch when I beat up on some of the returning old guard, then dropped sharply when they shook the rust off.


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you know you're getting somewhere when the players you thought were pretty good are the ones you hunt and chase down for easy kills.  also, spending time in private servers or the Test Arena a few hours a week at least, getting the snot blown out of you by someone willing to give you tips and time to try them is invaluable.

and yeah, you were pretty much mostly a target. it happens. things will get better.

luck!

 

OH! try that mouse setting at 9-15. 40-50 may be way too high for syncing with the turn caps here. i have mine at 11, 12 is just a little too jumpy--i can't imagine trying to hit anything with 40. just my opine...


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Also, better players are returning to Herken. Just now I joined a three star server filled to the brim with famous pilots. I couldnt play the way I used to, got smacked away like a fly.

 

After a while things got better. Anyway I think its not just you but also the people around you?


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Take a large dose of psychedelics and then play for around 12 hours straight, that should do it.


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Partially what hyginos said regarding 1v1s, and I'd be happy to help in that department.

Also, practice with an AR assault for a weekn or so, and spend a lot of time walking. Sometimes the slower you go, the easier it is to focus on what's important to focus on. Assault will help you not die and get frustrated while you're doing that.
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Partially what hyginos said regarding 1v1s, and I'd be happy to help in that department.

Also, practice with an AR assault for a weekn or so, and spend a lot of time walking. Sometimes the slower you go, the easier it is to focus on what's important to focus on. Assault will help you not die and get frustrated while you're doing that.

 

This is exactly what my buddy was saying. He suggested my tracking is pewp because I'm not used to ever using it. He said it might be time to step away and work on breaking old, lousy habits, and start by using a tracking-weapon. Let the game "slow down" again.

 

But yeah, thanks for the pointers people. I'm going to fiddle with my look settings and whatnot, but definitely going to consider cutting off my pink and replacing it with a mechanic thumb! (thanks armymonger)

 

Although, it's not that I'm getting wrecked by any players particularly - I've been 'round loooong enough to know names, keep myself humbled, and know what to expect from myself. It's more that I'm laughing at myself for TOW-ing a wall right in my face or even cratering myself - really just lousy plays that I can see happening and, without reacting against them, continue to follow through with.

 

Tickle, I'll see you in NYCFC sometime and we can try and dig me outta this. Thanks dood!


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+1 to a mech with a different play style for a while


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I'll fight you this weekend.  I have recently come to realize I have zero dueling skillz, need improve.  Although I was rocketshipping with the best of em during WW mayhem last night.


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I think you should quit Hawken for a month. At least. Taking it waaay too seriously.



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I think you should quit Hawken for a month. At least. Taking it waaay too seriously.


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I think you should quit Hawken for a month. At least. Taking it waaay too seriously.

 

Is that even possible?  Like telling a crack head to lay off the pipe for a few weeks...


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Have you tried to git gud yet?


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Have you tried to git gud yet?

 

Jeff I kept searching for how to git gud online everywhere! I tried askjeeves, ebaumsworld, and even Yahoo answers! All of them just told me to ask my dad for advice. Should I maybe trying reading some books? That sounds really tough...


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Jeff I kept searching for how to git gud online everywhere! I tried askjeeves, ebaumsworld, and even Yahoo answers! All of them just told me to ask my dad for advice. Should I maybe trying reading some books? That sounds really tough...

 

They sell Gud by the can at my local Walmart. Maybe I'll ship you some.


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Man I stunk last night, bottom of the list every match, I just couldn't find my rhythm. My last game of TDM I broke even K/D, which I thought was about as good as I was going to do and called it quits for the night.  :yucky:


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I have lost lots of mmr the last 3 days and it's because I've been playing like garbage. Or it might be because of the CQC eoc rocketeer shenanigins. No... No not possible that's definately the optimal build. It must be me.

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Come fight me bro! Lets help each other improve!


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But,  through this,  I wasn't happy with my mouse setting.  I'm used to high sensetivity,  and usually don't like mouse acceleration.  

 

But,  after a bad few rounds,  I made up my mind, before I DO ANYTHING else in this game,  I'm gonna get comfortable and happy with my hardware.

 

So I spent a day, just tweaking my mouse, and discovered a few changes REALLY improved things for me.  I keep my DPI around 2200 - 2500,  and turned down my in-game mouse sensetivity from 90-100,  down to 40 or 50.    Then I went back,  and added mouse acceleration from 0,  to about 2-3.   

 

 

There is next to no consistency at that high of a sens AND using acceleration.  

 

In Hawken, there's a turn-rate cap, meaning that, no matter how high your sensitivity is, your mech will not turn faster even with higher sensitivity.   My DPI is around 950 and I'm using roughly 10 sens in-game.  I hit the turn-speed cap at that sensitivity.  

 

Your settings are only serving to make your aim more jittery.  That's it.  It's not actually measurably helping you.  You only saw an improvement because you turned those ridiculous settings down, lol.  Turn them down even more and remove accel.  


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