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(Xbox)Tetele

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Ive build the Assault mech,for test and for unlock the Brawler and Warrior mechs,i dont know what the Warrior does with the Hellfire missiles and i dont know if its good for cqc,i usually use my Vanguard all the time and when i face a Warrior i usually win. So,whats the point of the Warrior??? Btw the Brawler,its the mech with the best armor of the game,850 of armor and im familiarized with TOWs,but i dont know if the Brawler can use defensive mode like Vanguard.

 

With the Vanguard i usually win most 1 vs 1 fights,the problem are the Assaults,really,Assaults are on all corners and if they mix two i usually lose.

 

I still lose with the Brawler in 1 vs 2,but at least i want to know if with the Brawler or Warrior i can win on 1 vs 1 cqc versus Assaults or other Heavyes...

 

The most things i hate on this game are Assaults,flying Assaults and flying mechs,in general...when the battle occurs on terrain its fine for me,but when the enemy mechs starts to fly like bees or using evasion like demons,i fuzzy bunny on their faces...



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I dont know what mech the Warrior is, pretty sure thats not a mech in the game.. The two Hellfire weapon mechs are Bruiser (B class) and Rocketeer (C class). If youre beating those in CQC with a Vanguard, its because they arent meant for CQC; Theyre ranged area denial mechs, utilizing their lock-on, heat-seeking Hellfire missiles as a method of keeping the enemy pinned down or afraid to peek and fight for prolonged periods, due to their consistent damage. Neither the Bruiser or Rocketeer are meant to be able to beat out a dueling mech like the Brawler or Vanguard in a close-range engagement, without outside intervention from teammates (That doesnt make it impossible, mind you; Ive slaughtered all with a Bruiser, its all about the pilot).

Yes, Brawler has that defensive tank mode, pretty sure almost all the C classes do, except the Incinerator.

Assaults are an easy counter; Dont fight head-on or in the open! If you fight by kiting (Firing and dodging into cover near simultaneously) you can wittle them down easily. If youre in the open, you need to juke his aim using boost/dodge combos or try to get behind him to maximize your damage/safety windows. If he hovers, boost under him and try to stay there- Mechs cant look straight down! If anyone hovers as an evasive maneuver, think like the pros do: Hes a sitting duck with no mobility to help him survive any damage. Flying is slower than boosting or dodging normally so they really are just easy targets asking to be shot and its just as easy to avoid their shots since you still have access to your own mobility.

Multiple Assaults got your number? Try to focus on one, use my tips above, and out-damage him. Take the kill and accept the death (Unless you find you can keep fighting). This game is a DPS race, if youre fighting multiple Assaults then all you have in your favor is mobility since they wont want to use theirs as it will hinder their DPS through accuracy sacrafice and spin-up time on the guns. This basically means, in certain situations, multiple Assualts gunning at you means you might be totally screwed and you should try to take at least one of them with you, taking advantage of your freedom of movement. To be honest, it sounds like youre trying to one-man-army the match if youre getting into scenarios like this so often, you should be sticking with your teammates and fighting as a unit. Lone-wolfing manages to get you killed more than get you kills

And finally, yes, the Brawler can easily win 1v1 against Assaults. Its all about how skilled you are to make it work. The Brawler is a heavy, bursty mech while the Assault is lighter and sustained damage; That means you need to use cover to minimize your damage-taken while waiting for your weapon cooldowns and utilizing the knowledge that the Assault will want to stay more on the still side and non-stop fire at you, meaning hes a sitting duck and youre a mobile beast with the ability to fire inbetween dodges and boosts, effectively making you able to fire and move, in comparison- Even considering youre a C class

Edited by (Xbox)x KiRK707, 15 August 2016 - 10:08 AM.


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Sorry my game language is in Spanish,and the Bruiser is called "Guerrero" in Spanish and i only make the traduction,Warrior. Ive read ur entire post, u say that u have beated all with the Bruiser,i assume that u recommend me the Bruiser?? I dont have yet any long range mech, maybe gonna be a good choice.



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Yes, while its a bit hard to use because it has long-range Hellfire missiles and a short-range mini-gun with a spin-up time before it starts firing; However, if you get used to its weapons and playstyle, it can really work well. Just be sure you have teammates to back you up, a Bruiser supports other mechs damage and helps zone opponents, your goal is not to get caught in 1v1s but instead deal a lot of damage safely at range and close the distance with your teammates to get that mini-gun within range

Edited by (Xbox)x KiRK707, 15 August 2016 - 11:17 AM.


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Another thing to note, when using the brawler, that flak cannon has a really close range for maximum damage and a high heat gen. So save it for when you get close so you aren't overheating when you get in for the kill.

Edited by (Xbox)phed thc, 15 August 2016 - 11:42 AM.


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Thanks for the tips.
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Today at evening i can build a new mech,i was between Brawler and Bruiser and ive decided for Brawler. Im little dissapointed with the mech,because have a lot of armor,850 of armor but acts like a medium mech. I face Assaults and major part of the battles with those mechs i lose. The trick to win is to hit with TOWs at center but the problems are when the enemy start to fly. I cant say neither versus Vanguards on defensive mode,its a waste of time. Brawler is my favorite heavy mech atm but im little dissapointed that is a heavy mech with medium mech syndrome. Ill buy the Bruiser on the next mech to build. Maybe i need practice on picking a new heavy caused last times on my matches i use the Infiltrator and its a world appart. But its curious that with the Vanguard i win major part of 1 vs 1 and with the Brawler its more Support mech than tankish mech,as the mech descriptión says...

Buff the Brawler pls!!!!

Edited by (Xbox)Tetele, 16 August 2016 - 01:19 PM.


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Today at evening i can build a new mech,i was between Brawler and Bruiser and ive decided for Brawler. Im little dissapointed with the mech,because have a lot of armor,850 of armor but acts like a medium mech. I face Assaults and major part of the battles with those mechs i lose. The trick to win is to hit with TOWs at center but the problems are when the enemy start to fly. I cant say neither versus Vanguards on defensive mode,its a waste of time. Brawler is my favorite heavy mech atm but im little dissapointed that is a heavy mech with medium mech syndrome. Ill buy the Bruiser on the next mech to build. Maybe i need practice on picking a new heavy caused last times on my matches i use the Infiltrator and its a world appart. But its curious that with the Vanguard i win major part of 1 vs 1 and with the Brawler its more Support mech than tankish mech,as the mech descriptión says...
Buff the Brawler pls!!!!


hi Tetele. Brawler is one of the best mechs in the game for close combat. If you want, come check out my stream on twitch.
let me know in the chat if you show up and I'll play brawler and show you how to dominate with it. search hestoned on twitch.

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Yeah, Tetele,  check out Hestoned's feed.  If there is anyone here to learn from its him. Have yet to play against anyone as good.






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