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Hey friends! Only been playing for about 7 days (had my account for 2-3 weeks however) and was wondering what the best burst A class was. This may include weapons that do not come pre-equipped on the mech.

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Scout and Infiltrator
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Thanks!



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By the numbers, the infiltrator is the best for pure burst, but the greater maneuverability and ease of use of the scout edges it out for dueling and most other situations.


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Flak Scout.


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I prefer Infiltrator over Scout due to versatility and utility. Infil has cloak, Grenade Launcher, which is nice for close and midrange fighting, Assault rifle for front line engagements and skirmishing, HEAT and EOC for burst, more health than Scoot. Its only a bit slower, and I'd take slower and more versatile over a mostly CQC mech in the Scout, despite its insane speeds.

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If you want one of the most underused and strongest duel mech in the game take either the heat infil or heat scout. It might take months to get down but it is one of the most effective mechs and damn fun.


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HEAT Infil is really fuzzy bunny fun and an excellent dueler. Listen to Dave, he knows a bit about dueling.

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HEAT Infil is really fuzzy bunny fun and an excellent dueler. Listen to Dave, he knows a bit about dueling.

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Heat infil is fun to play indeed, but, it really isn't a dominant A class.


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G2 raider has the highest burst of any meck in the game. but most find him unusable. being only a cqc specialist. I like pred personalty  but he is really a defensive support mech. For your Purposes I would go with a heat scout because the tow fallow almost the same trajectory. Infi you are going to have to get closer and get good with the grande launcher. For ether mech  heat is a very difficult weapon to master so be ready for a steep learning curve.


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EOC Infiltrator can one-shot a Scout, Infiltrator or a Technician at full health. (Assuming you hit an additional Detonator or H.E. charge)


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I'd play a scout if it had rev gl, eoc, or even a pn-223.

anything cool in the way of a primary really


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Actually, the crown for highest burst damage goes to the EOC raider when using the mirv. I think the damage comes out to be just about 300 even which is roughly 17 more than the G2 raider.

It depends on your play style. Heat scout and heat infiltrator are great of you like diverse corner play with elevation differences involved. EOC infiltrator is great with burst damage as everyone says and really shines agains clustered together opponents. It's all up to preference.

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EOC infil is nice to sneak upon damaged or repairing people and burst them down, Heat infil holds up better in direct fights and Heat in general is of the most versatile "bursty" primaries, Heat Scout is also a joy to play. Landing a charged Heat shot at someone flying is a lot easier than the same situation but with EOC.

 

Speaking about Scout the nice thing is that both Flak and Heat allow for very different playstyles with the same mech, so you'd be getting close to 2 mechs in 1 if you go the Scout way.

 

Once you get used to them you'll feel the crave for even more Glorious Burst™ coming back to haunt you, when that happens try out Raider.


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Again, thanks for all the replies fellas! Will be saving up for Heat Scout for sure. I dig burst and movespeed a lot, and don't like the range of the Grenade launcher vs TOW rocket. =)
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Scout in infil. 

 

Best overall burst as per damage: EOC Infil and Flak Scout

 

You also have all burst Heat Scout as well. All 3 are nasty. 


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Depends completely on the situation. For example, Siege with an EOC Infil is killer on Front Line and Origin, but far less effective for TDMs. Scout with Heat Cannon is pretty versatile, but there may be some situation in which it might be more effective to have a Flak or Mini Flak. So, in conclusion...

 

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Scout OP imho. 2 hits to kill Btype before he turns around at u.


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I use infil ... Lol XD I never tried scout... XD

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I prefer heat scout,
Combination heat cannon + tow is very OP

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I think flak scout will rek you more.

 

You have to be really good at your leading to hit reliably with the heat as it has a travel time, especially against flying mechs where you lose the splash when you miss.

 

Flak will hit scan you with no leading required.

 

EDIT: and you can flak someone in the face in CQC without hurting yourself.


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Flak Scout or Heat Scout depending on the enemy comp. Heat Scout is a lot better at dealing with heavier enemy comps in my experience.


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I reccomend heat infil - heat sits right in between burst and sustain with quick reload times plus splash. And nades are just plain fun.

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We never got numbers in the thread, but EOC Infil has heaviest A-Class alpha strike.


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...one of the most underused and strongest duel mech in the game take either the heat infil or heat scout.

Pretty much impossible to argue against this as far as 'best'. Flak Scout is probably the most applicable answer, but objectively 'best'? No.

The answer is certainly Scout or Inf, and Heat beats the other weapon options objectively for burst skill ceiling- then it's just a discussion of preference and situational applicability between the two mechs' stats/abilities and GL vs TOW.

 

For the average Hawken player asking this question on this forum? Go for the Flak Scout.

If you're about to commit hundreds of hours to becoming the best A-class dueler in the game, then use Heat (and hit me up; I want to help, and duel you :thumbsup: ).

 

Disclaimer: Nothing is 'objectively best'. Flack and EOC just have so few objective advantages over Heat that in wide generality, with regard to A-class burst, Heat is just better than Flak and EOC.

Flak and EOC have their advantages - EOC with its utility, Flak with its lack of self-damage - but the versatility and effectiveness skill ceiling on Heat is just enormous.


Edited by CoshCaust, 29 February 2016 - 02:32 PM.


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I prefer flak Scout to heat Scout because it takes less time to score the kill/ score well.

I find with heat Scout enemy teammates come to help the victim too often before he's done fighting.

Heat can be a pita to avoid, true, so if no one else in the server is alert enough to help the helpless I like to use heat infil and giggle. It's been forever since I've mained heat infil.

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It might be noted that the OP did not specify that he preferred CQC or dueling mechs - only burst mechs. In some situations, the slug reaper is far and away a superior mech.

 

These situations are decisively long range engagements however.


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Im guessing OP found out 10 months ago


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Im guessing OP found out 10 months ago

 

Yeah but the meta changes so quickly with all these balance changes


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Yeah but the meta changes so quickly with all these balance changes

 

How could OP know that the EOC repeater is now the best weapon in the game if we don't tell him.


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How could OP know that the EOC repeater is now the best weapon in the game if we don't tell him.

False. PN-223 new meta. 


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Im guessing OP found out 10 months ago

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best burst a class will let you slaughter more newbs but a burst b class (raider) will let you slaughter everything

(not a quick draw flak slinger like all the pros? the raiders extra ass points absorbs their dps enough for you to miss once or twice and still get them (just dont miss more than like once or twice and stay out of the air)


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I am mostly a scout/infil and am really preferring heat infil right now. Against better players the first strike damage potential puts me immediately in the upper hand, the cloak allows me to to reposition myself behind death balls quickly, and the fuel... so much better gas mileage than a scout. I can dance all day.



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I have defiantly changed my mind on this one ...... Raider is the best burst mech hands down. The kla long short range modes are  a utility belt of function ..... and when equipped right with internals.  few mechs can deal with the amount of burst that happens so quickly and then you are gone. Note on this : skill , patience and staying undercover are detrimental to the  survivablity  of the raider.  The extra ass for a  B- class .....makes it a power house.  Technically eoc pred does the best burst , what is buster than a 8 mine insta-gib?  But raider so out shines  pred in utility speed survival and in armor.


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Raider

topic is about a classes



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topic is about a classes

 

 

  I will take a raider over a scout or a infi any day ... it is a B-Class but   so much more survivable  ...... just let the fight come to you and his ability works for bursting in ....running out and rushing enemy's trying to get away ...what other mech get this burst utility and armor ......  and 3 shields and  you are good to go..... get in get out rinse repeat ..... why would any one choose a class mech over this.  seriously ??! just Remember to walk not run.  when its ability is activated it is the fastest mech  in the game and it can shoot while thrusting . which  means  only another raider could catch you ..... that even  just a small problem till you figure it out.


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^ I'm tired.  Someone else can get this one.

Ok.

 

 

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topic is about a classes

 

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