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It's been a very long time since i've last checked up on Hawken, which was well over a year ago or so. My question is, has the game finally launched/gone live? Or is still in beta form (looks live to me but thought I would ask).



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Still considered in beta


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The game is alive and well :)

 

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I don't think there is a straight answer to whether or not Hawken has been "released".  While it never was technically a "Final release", and they did remove the word "Beta" from the website, launcher and game... it was also known to still be under development when Adhesive folded.  Now, with it being brand newly owned by Reloaded... I'd say it's safe to assume it's unofficially back in "beta".

 

But, since anyone can download and play it... I see no point in either term.  It is what it is and you can play it.  Also, it will probably change over time.


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I don't think there is a straight answer to whether or not Hawken has been "released".  While it never was technically a "Final release", and they did remove the word "Beta" from the website, launcher and game... it was also known to still be under development when Adhesive folded.  Now, with it being brand newly owned by Reloaded... I'd say it's safe to assume it's unofficially back in "beta".

 

But, since anyone can download and play it... I see no point in either term.  It is what it is and you can play it.  Also, it will probably change over time.

A game where you got the potential to by things is not to be considered a beta,  as a game in beta should be completely free to allow users to find bugs that are hidden behind a pay-wall.


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You're both right, kinda :)

From a consumer perspective, the game's not in beta. Once they allow you to pay for things and game progress is persistent, then it's no longer beta.

From a development perspective, any change can be released as beta if it still hasn't been fully tested.

Personally, I don't think game is in beta. The game as a whole can now be considered back in active development, but not beta. I restrict the beta tag to major software releases, not patches or fixes. They're are making changes to the production servers, but that's not prerelease software.

[...] My question is, has the game finally launched/gone live? [...]


Unless the devs define what "launched" is, that can't be answered. IMNSHO the game launched in 2012.

Edited by kasei, 24 June 2015 - 06:12 PM.


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hawken still in beta, and it alwaus be in beta like and many other MMO. for example, WoT - it never been released. it's not abig deal.


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hawken still in beta, and it alwaus be in beta like and many other MMO. for example, WoT - it never been released. it's not abig deal.


Yeah, I mean compared to what the previous dev team had in mind for the game in final form and what the game is capable of being to what it is now its really hard to not call this a Beta.

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I know the term beta has been watered down a lot, but you guys are really stretching it >.>
 

Yeah, I mean compared to what the previous dev team had in mind for the game in final form and what the game is capable of being to what it is now its really hard to not call this a Beta.


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Edited by kasei, 25 June 2015 - 03:44 PM.


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Steam still says Early Access and " HAWKEN is in the very final stages of BETA so you may notice a few bugs but we're ready for an expanded audience to try the game and have fun!"

 

Still accurate actually.

 

edit: the Early Access is a nice  legal way to say "you may get nothing Consumer"


Edited by talon70, 25 June 2015 - 04:01 PM.


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Steam still says Early Access and "
HAWKEN is in the very final stages of BETA so you may notice a few bugs but we're ready for an expanded audience to try the game and have fun!"
 
Still accurate actually.
 
edit: the Early Access is a nice  legal way to say "you may get nothing Consumer"

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Edited by kasei, 25 June 2015 - 04:03 PM.


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were in beta 2.0 guise. get with the program...

 

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Just think of it like CSS, it's always going to be in beta since it's never technically finished. Theres always things to improve and change here and there.


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I know the term beta has been watered down a lot, but you guys are really stretching it >.>


Not really, it doesn't matter that its sat in this state for a long period of time. If its not feature complete and there are major issues unresolved thats beta.

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Not really, it doesn't matter that its sat in this state for a long period of time. If its not feature complete and there are major issues unresolved thats beta.


(sigh) Did you read my first post? I didn't mention anything about how long its been in beta.

Also, what you're describing should be called alpha. If a release isn't feature complete, then it's not beta. Beta is for testing.

You're confusing the term feature complete with features that will be made available in future releases. Each software release goes through alpha/beta/RC/etc. phases as new features are implemented and tested. This doesn't mean that the software stays in beta indefinitely. You can make an argument to call this perpetual beta, but even then I still have my doubts.

The devs can call it whatever they want, but that doesn't make it accurate.

Edited by kasei, 26 June 2015 - 03:37 AM.





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