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Trinnexx

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When I first played the game I was bitterly dissapointed to find that I couldn't take the parts I'd baught for my CRT and put them in my (then, hard earned) Assult! It was a slap in the face reminding me that this is a f2p/Freemium/p2w game.

 

So heres my suggestions, Inventory:

 

All Items and Internals when purchased go in to a global pool, you may only equip the Items and Internals available for that class (the way it is now). You may un-equip from one Mech and fit to another, HOWEVER once a match has started you can no longer swap parts around. This means you cannot use the one same part for all mechs if you expect to change mechs during battle.

Scrapping:
Parts and Mechs can be sold back at a much lower rate (33%-50%).

 

Inheritance:
G2 Mechs can be leveled like normal mechs, at weapon unlock levels they can use the previous generations weapons, at max level they can swap the secondary (providing this isnt unbalanced, its mostly so players can have some variety and discover their own meta).

 

Trading:

Mechs and Parts can be traded, However there is a small MC cost involved (20 for mech, 5 for part?) that is reserved when the trade is placed. When the transaction is completed the MC is taken, if not the Mech/Item and MC are returned.

 

Trading, Scrapping and leveling G2 are only available after a player has made thier first MC purchase. Effectivley making them a premium player.



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Panzermanathod

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This isn't pay to win. The only thing you can buy with only cash is cosmetic stuff. Everything else is just paying money to limit grinding.



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This isn't pay to win. The only thing you can buy with only cash is cosmetic stuff. Everything else is just paying money to limit grinding.

I know this, but p2w was the impression I (and others too if you read the post Re: new promo code) got when first discovering the loadouts.
The idea behind this suggestion is to add more interest and 'management' to the system, and to break down the heavy time cost wall a little in order to encorage players to enjoy and stay. Hopefully this translates to MC for the devs too as players who would otherwise free play make an initial purchase at least to go premium and enjoy trading. Don't forget there are only 2 G2 chassis at the moment. There's plenty more for vets to do and buy as the others get released.


Edited by Trinnexx, 01 April 2015 - 10:53 AM.


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I really dislike the idea of having any mech with a unique loadout behind a paywall, which is what is being suggested with making the G2 mechs off limits until someone buys MC.

 

The G2's aren't 'pilot this mech and win', but it would be power available only by spending real money (indirectly).

 

Most of the pay 2 win claims seem to be based on the really bad UI design choices (i.e. unlock early entries only showing MC and not HC costs) and those who seem to believe that any system that allows pay to avoid the grind to be pay to win.


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I really dislike the idea of having any mech with a unique loadout behind a paywall, which is what is being suggested with making the G2 mechs off limits until someone buys MC.

Yeah I wouldn't want them locked out with a pay wall either, I probably wouldn't have kept playing myself if that was the case. I was suggesting equiping 'legacy' (stock) weapons to them. eg a G2 Assult with the TOW as secondary would require premium. But thats only providing that first gen weapons on G2 don't unbalanced.



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I really dislike the idea of having any mech with a unique loadout behind a paywall, which is what is being suggested with making the G2 mechs off limits until someone buys MC.

 

The G2's aren't 'pilot this mech and win', but it would be power available only by spending real money (indirectly).

 

Most of the pay 2 win claims seem to be based on the really bad UI design choices (i.e. unlock early entries only showing MC and not HC costs) and those who seem to believe that any system that allows pay to avoid the grind to be pay to win.

I think it also has something to do with the fact that the "PTW" players dominate in matches and seem to have all the expensive stuff. this is probably just because the players who play this game for a while decide its worth it to spend money on a steam card or just online to buy MC and they are "op" because they have played the game long enough to be come quite skilled


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What if we just give some bacon paint, some bacon holo-emotes and change Bunker from snow to bacon.

 

This way, everyone will be happy.

What you should really do, is replace your parts with bacon, so you can cook games and eat bacon

Obviously the wallpaper would be cooler if bacon was incorporated into it.

 


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I think it also has something to do with the fact that the "PTW" players dominate in matches and seem to have all the expensive stuff. this is probably just because the players who play this game for a while decide its worth it to spend money on a steam card or just online to buy MC and they are "op" because they have played the game long enough to be come quite skilled

More like the players that are dominating have played long enough to grind all the necessary HC and get what they want.

 

Myself, for example, I've spent MC on getting my sharpie back at the start of open beta in '12, and that was only becasue I didn't want to wait to grind out the HC.  Every bit of MC I've used since then has been for the cosmetic items only (this is also why I have a bunch of dupe mechs.  I really wanted that boo repair drone :tongue:)

 

The UI is confusing and many new players are conditioned to think that higher level = more powerful mechs and weapons.  We have seen many threads on people upset becasue they grind out the HC for that expensive weapon and then find that it's horrible for their playstyle and not 'more powerful' than what they started with.

 

Regardless, this is drifting from the OP, I believe, and has been covered elsewhere, so I will stop here. :smile:


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