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Making business decisions without content:

 

https://youtu.be/C9U0RX04Rd0?t=2m40s

 

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If I'm not mistaken, this FUZE console is Chinese so pretty much they're targeting their market. Reloaded is thirsty, they always were and always will be. I personally just hope they don't fuzzy bunny up HAWKEN ... I don't give a fuzzy bunny if they put a price tag on it, i'll buy it, just leave the PC version of HAWKEN alone ...


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Whenever "Meteor" and "Hawken" are in the same subject it commonly entails a bad thing. Bad things are not good. 


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From what little I've seen of that console, it looks like another cheap knockoff of mainstream consoles (ps4 ish console design with Xbox controller?). Is Hawken the right game for a Chinese console/market?

I guess it'll be.... Worth the wait.

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Ummm, this is not news, guys.  We've know about this since December....

 

 

https://community.pl...le-huh/?p=71394

 

 

And my stance on it hasn't changed since this thread in December.  How or why is this bad?  If anything, its evidence that Hawken is not dead/dying.


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To simplify:

 

1. Game doesn't get shared servers, succeeds on consoles, PC game is still dead.

2. Game gets shared servers, PC gamers roflstomp consoles, PC game is still dead.

 

Where's our fuzzing content?!


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To simplify:

 

1. Game doesn't get shared servers, succeeds on consoles, PC game is still dead.

2. Game gets shared servers, PC gamers roflstomp consoles, PC game is still dead.

 

FUZE is an Android based console to be released exclusively in China.  I don't believe either of these scenarios apply to the FUZE version of the game.

 

 

 

 

Where's our fuzzing content?!

 

 

 

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To simplify:
 
1. Game doesn't get shared servers, succeeds on consoles, PC game is still dead.
2. Game gets shared servers, PC gamers roflstomp consoles, PC game is still dead.
 
Where's our fuzzing content?!


Development is happening here in the US for the PC and Xbone and only for Xbox One because of the platform similarities with the PC; same base OS and a x86 CPU and Radeon GPU. Because these the platforms are so similar the content you develop for one is easily developed for the other, this is essentially low hanging fruit for Reloaded. Perhaps the Xbox version will become more popular (I kinda doubt it) but even if thats the case the low cost working for both platforms means both will keep going and should get updates around the same time.

This Chinese console thing is just licensing agreement to get titles for their market, I'm sure it helps them but I doubt Reloaded will get much money from this venture and it really has no impact on the PC version.

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Yawn. Are the pc servers still up? Yes? Well that's all I care about at this point.. I gave up hope long ago.
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What's the big fuzzy bunnyng deal? Lots of amazing people have committed suicide, and they turned out alright.

 


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I've told you guys this is coming. 

 

Remember Josh wrote that "2016 is going to be a big year for Hawken" Last Christmas?

 

His big year have NOTHING in it's first 5 months. NDA? If they are not making a whole new Hawken, then the NDA and all that means NOTHING. 

 

Fuze, X1, or whatever, is just sucking the very last drop of Hawken's blood. 


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asians will save the game;

 

 

more marketing and advertising in South East Asian countries,

 

malaysia, phillipines, thailand, cambodia, china, and only a little bit in japan.  lol


Edited by angryhampster, 03 June 2016 - 11:48 AM.

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Remember Josh wrote that "2016 is going to be a big year for Hawken" Last Christmas?

 

I reinterpret that as: "2016 is going to be a big year for my wallet, hoho, eat sh*t and die, playerbase."

 

Oh well.


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NDA? If they are not making a whole new Hawken, then the NDA and all that means NOTHING. 

 

You'd make a damn fine lawyer. You should go around to every company that tries making a new product and convince them that they don't need to waste money writing NDAs. Charge a small fee each time.

 

Start with Tesla, Apple, Google, and Uber. Show those overpaid corporate lawyers where they're wrong. Be sure to give us real-time updates so that we can marvel as you usher in a golden age of simple legal advice.


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<inserts a paragraph of irrelevant stuff>

 

im glad we're branching out on other platforms.



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You'd make a damn fine lawyer. You should go around to every company that tries making a new product and convince them that they don't need to waste money writing NDAs. Charge a small fee each time.

 

Start with Tesla, Apple, Google, and Uber. Show those overpaid corporate lawyers where they're wrong. Be sure to give us real-time updates so that we can marvel as you usher in a golden age of simple legal advice.

Non of your examples resemble the Hawken situation.

 

  Almost 2 years old FPS game (At least we had Update on the first year.) with small player-base, add a content update (A map? or two? A mech? or two?) requires such NDA that keeps dev from speaking almost anything?

  The point? Yeah yeah law requires blah blah blah. I'm interested in how the market will react to all the BS.


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this is the last year we are going to see dead fully ? 99.99% .ok 01%  remain if they update all game 



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Where's our fuzzing content?!

In your dreams.


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Also, hasn't pc hawken flourished in china? I think it was released under a different publisher...

Edited by (TDM)coldform, 03 June 2016 - 01:16 PM.

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Also, hasn't pc hawken flourished in china? I think it was released under a different publisher...

https://community.pl...elopment/page-3

 

 

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youtubed it because why not

 


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Who are G3? Golden Gate Games... Some kind of China publisher for games?

 

"G3 will be launching and operating Hawken, the award winning western mech battle game, on the innovative Android gaming console from Fuze."

 

"Operate Hawken" ?

 

++ http://www.goldengat...fuze-hawken-g3/


Edited by bunny_fuzzy, 04 June 2016 - 01:20 AM.

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If there's no pc update at least i hope they'll make good money on that chinese thing and maybe some of that will go to pc version .


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If there's no pc update at least i hope they'll make good money on that chinese thing and maybe some of that will go to pc version .

 

 

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Found another Chinese article on Hawken. Here's the link: http://www.52384.com...6051797081.html

 

If you google-translate the page, you'll see that Hawken is going full VR. Not only that, but it will also become an MMO. (?)

 

Oh boy.


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More juice.

 

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http://www.daawan.com/news/3270.html


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Couple of bits from the hilarious duct-tape quality Google Translate version of DerMax's link: http://www.daawan.com/news/3270.html

 

"In order to give the majority of the domestic mech gamers authentic European and American masterpiece. Laser games and music "Tomahawk" Team work closely together for nearly 12 months, from the literal translation, UI, operational version, to control the set, transcoding, game effects, such as full local server set up, made to maximize transplant."

 

12 Months.

 

"According to the big-play networks understand, excited music game last successful "HAWKEN" Global Andrews host agency, and the introduction of the exclusive China this year, successfully landed "Tomahawk" host platform.In addition, the laser music playing game also told the network, "HAWKEN" recently decided to push VR version, worth the wait."

 

Note VR, and obligatory 'Worth the wait' .jpg desperately needed in response.

 

"Stimulated music game in charge of "HAWKEN" core staff are from the world-renowned game company, has a wealth of game experience, led by two senior members of Dr. David Zhu and Keith McCurdy, with many overseas well-known game development company maintained a stable and lasting partnership."

 

Any insight out there? Discuss.


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"worth the wait."

Is that a literal translation? Did they fuzzy bunnyng really?

 

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Yes. I am completely serious. Go see for yourself. It's got to be a coincidence.

 

 

edit: here's a direct link to the Google Translate version:

 

https://translate.go...tml&prev=search


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By the way,  APB was just released on Xbox One and devs claim that will improve the PC version but zero new content in sight.

http://apbreloaded.g...evelopment.html


Edited by FRX23, 04 June 2016 - 03:30 PM.

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First, note that APB is Unreal, and that those improvements may also be optimized in Hawken.

 

Second, note that Tiggs (or the author) is telling everyone with a PC that they have a hell of an advantage over the Xbone players... does anyone else read this as 'common servers' between Xbone and PC?


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First, note that APB is Unreal, and that those improvements may also be optimized in Hawken.

Second, note that Tiggs (or the author) is telling everyone with a PC that they have a hell of an advantage over the Xbone players... does anyone else read this as 'common servers' between Xbone and PC?


If we get common servers that's basically it for the population.

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If we get common servers that's basically it for the population.

 

Especially if they're in China.  Dunno what to make of this development.  Hopeful, but jaded sums it up.


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I don't understand how this is a bad thing.

 

Expanding to the asian market, even if just by licensing the IPs, means more money to Reloaded, which potentially means more resources for development for the game.

 

Meteor/Adhesive screwed themselves by making grand promises to investors and expanding to film, which was a bad idea, but Reloaded is doing neither of these things as far as I can tell, so I'm not sure why we are jumping to conclusions as of yet.


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I'm not sure why we are jumping to conclusions as of yet.

 

I know you aren't new here, but I still feel like asking.


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I know you aren't new here, but I still feel like asking.

 

Well, I just figured that a thread entitled "Reloaded headed down the path of Meteor" would provide at least one example of how Reloaded is making the same types of business decisions that Adhesive/Meteor did, but I haven't seen any evidence of that. They are making business decisions, yes.  Those decisions are being made behind the scenes, clearly.

 

Are they bad? That is debateable. What do they mean for Hawken? Mostly we only have speculation at this point.

 

However, my point was that these business decisions do not seem to mirror the types of decisions that Meteor/Adhesive was making that led to their downfall, so ...

 

:rolleyes:

 

Y'know what? Nevermind.


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First, note that APB is Unreal, and that those improvements may also be optimized in Hawken.

 

Second, note that Tiggs (or the author) is telling everyone with a PC that they have a hell of an advantage over the Xbone players... does anyone else read this as 'common servers' between Xbone and PC?

 

You probably do reference to this quote :
 

APB Xbox One Release and PC Development Update

[...]

The first thing for all PC players to note is of course that you will have a massive advantage over the brand new Xbox One players just from the fact that you know this game. So if you were Silver and wanted to reach that coveted "Gold" level and couldn't quite get there on PC, there is a decent chance you will be able to get there on the console versions.

[...]

 

What i understand is that there is no crossplatform but only that PC users know the game already (ie : Maps and gameplay) so they have this advantage on new comers.

Specialy when poster says that if you weren't enough good in PC version you'll be better on console versions.


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Exactly, let's face it, cross platform servers would surely be suicide for controller users. Hawken could surely only make it feasible by specifically giving controller players an aim assist system, which is incredibly unlikely given the limited budget. And what an aim assist it would have to be! As far as trying to match controller users with the already stupidly high skill ceiling us 300 community members are brushing against, you'd basically have to be almost botting at that point. 


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... match controller users with the already stupidly high skill ceiling us 300 community members are brushing against, you'd basically have to be almost botting at that point. 

 

 

This deserves it's own thread.  You're right, we're all pretty good, even those of us who think we aren't as good as everyone else. 


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