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I didn't know where to post this and was pretty hesitant in the dicision lol XD but yeah

I didnt know if I could maybe apply for some kind of forum moderator or helper or something ? Lol

Idk I was about to suggest it in suggestions cuz I don't think there are any yet but yeah then I thought I would apply too so yeah lol XD

Also I think it would be useful to have a forum helper/moderator or something ... Yeah XD

so umm Im grollourdo (XD sorry my name apparently means some mean stuff in French, I didn't know until a few days ago, thought of a different meaning...XD) I speak a few different languages XD English, french , Vietnamese , a bit of Spanish (learning right now XD),And yeah a TINY bit of other languages that I don't think I realy speak XD

I am young and all so yeah XD I wanna learn and help the hawken forums and all XD
I like being on the forums, Talking to others and putting all my opinions on a topic and all XD (alltho I sometimes get my many ideas mixed and can't really express myself in a text)
I'm determined XD


SO YEAH! :) I haven't seen any forum rules yet (maybe its just me and I missed it lol somewhere maybe pinned somewhere lol ) but yeah I'm willing to follow all rules and yeah XD

I do have a lil anger management problem tho..... But I'm willing to suppress all of it and all

I think I feel confident in my speaches but I know there are many out there better than me XD (yes I admire a lot of them XD)

.... I don't really know what else to say.... There aren't any guides for this so yeah ... Ima just put as much details as possible XD

HMM

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I think I'm a casual person who has big dreams XD I WANNA BECOME A SOUND Engineer XD

I am DETERMINED! YUSH! XD

I'm willing to try out new experiences and I love knowing I helped someone with something (damn u know that feeling of satisfaction XD)

umm...

I live in the south east Asia timezone so umm that means.... (Lol time zones are confusing) umm its something ?7. ... Maybe GMT +7 ? Wait ima research and edit latter
Edit:yeah i researched it says Utc/gmt +7 XD
I Think I'm very creative XD

I Want yo be a community helper and all to improve my social skills (wow u don't k ow me in real life lol I'm EXTREAMLY shy XD ... Wierdly I feel completely in my shoes online..... Maybe cuz like in all those cliche movies XD )
I ALSO wanna learn how to manage forums and all of that XD lol XD
I wanna learn how to be more profetional !

Umm ... What else ...

I wanna meet more people? ... But I can already do that lol yeah ... ....


Oh I speak my mind! XD and TYPE MY MIND TOO XD yeah as u can see I just type whatever is in my head lol XD without going back .... Yeah...


Well ... Ima try to apply and all, tell me if theres anything I should add XD

If I get this lol (OK obviously I'll be SOOOOOO HAPPY XD) tell meh what I need to know about doing this! XD lol
Tell me all the things needed to be heler and all XD I'll do my best to fit in that XD

If I don't get this then lol at least I Maybe motivate people in doing this? XD at least I tried in the end XS

Plus maybe from suggestions and all and tip ( oh yeah guys gimmeh tips! XD) I might learn a few things anyway XD

YEAH!

Write any tips and what u think of me XD and all down in that Lil black box down there guys ! XD

Groll XD

PS : yeah I might edit this later on XD idk tell me what u think XD this is all I've got on my mind right now XD

Edit : oh and another thing XD don't hesitate to speak your mind if u against this or for this and why XD we could talk about it and all and have some kind of Socratic duscution? XD

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Last time we had mods they got power hungry and starting picking favorites. 


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Last time we had mods they got power hungry and starting picking favorites.

Oh crap.... OK ... Idk what to say lol ...

Edit: how do u think we could counter that? I just thought of something, maybe a voting system? Or a reporting system or anything like that like an election??? Idk vposting something saying this that about the person to like tell ur opinion about if the person should become mod/helper or not become mod/helper? Idk something like that idk ideas ?

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Technically they were never mods, they were appointed and given responsibility to deal with spam only.


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There's no need for additional moderation staff at the moment. The community is behaving rather well.

 

Also not to sound like an ass but with an application like that there's no way I'd consider you for a position of power.


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I know you mean well, but the last time it happened...well, things got out of hand.  Badly.


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Last time we had mods they got power hungry and starting picking favorites. 

 

Yes, lets make blanket statements blame all of them because they all were bad even though we have no idea what went down... /s


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Yes, lets make blanket statements blame all of them because they all were bad even though we have no idea what went down... /s

 

I like this idea. Please press "F" if you are in favor of this motion.


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I like this idea. Please press "F" if you are in favor of this motion.

 

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Yes, lets make blanket statements blame all of them because they all were bad even though we have no idea what went down... /s


Wasn't meant to be a blanket statement. I'm sorry if you took it personally. And thank you for ignoring my second post. 
 

 

Moderation got out of control, it should never be allowed again in that same capacity.


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Last time we had mods they got power hungry and starting picking favorites. 

I feel like you're kind of misrepresenting the situation there.



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Wasn't meant to be a blanket statement. I'm sorry if you took it personally. And thank you for ignoring my second post.


Moderation got out of control, it should never be allowed again in that same capacity.


Pretty sure you don't actually know what you're talking about. There was ONE incident that got blown up and then the "perpetrator" made a post about why he did it and the unforeseen consequences of that action.
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I know you mean well, but the last time it happened...well, things got out of hand.  Badly.

 

The problems only really came about after the devs had gone silent for quite a while. Though that certainly doesn't excuse the actions taken by some of the spam warriors at that point, and Fred knows we tried everything we could to undo many of those actions. 

 

I've made a thread about this issue here: https://community.pl...rs-perspective/


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I feel like you're kind of misrepresenting the situation there.

 


 

Pretty sure you don't actually know what you're talking about. There was ONE incident that got blown up and then the "perpetrator" made a post about why he did it and the unforeseen consequences of that action.

 

I'll agree to disagree, and leave it at that.


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Forums that are community ran can be done if done right. There has to be checks and balances in place. A system also has to be in place to hold even the most highest level of staff members responsible for their actions. A Code of Conduct and ToS must be put into place and reinforced. 

 

A prime example of a community ran and self sufficient forum would be OverClock.Net (of which i am a member of for 6 years) that is over 418k members and growing at about 1-2k members a month. Members who are turned into staff are trained by another staff member. Their job is simple: Uphold the ToS. Any personal opinions or grudges are kept to the side. If a staff member is found to be giving favoritism, it is dealt with quickly and without mercy, generally resulting in the remove of said staff member from his position. The entire time I have been there, it has happened once. 

 

On OCN, this is how it works:

 

Moderators and forum staff represent the site/company as a whole. The members who become staff are not picked by devs or the mods, they are nominated by the member base. From there, a strict screening process is in place as each nominee receive votes from the moderation team based on the following: 

 

How many infractions does said member have? 

How recent are they (at least 2 years without infractions)?

Has any of the staff members had an issue with said nominee?

Is the member respected and contributes to the community?

How is the member on the forums?

Are they professional in the way they carry themselves? 

 

From there, approved nominees are further put to scrutiny by the Managing Moderators and Admins. Once said members pass each of the steps, they are finally asked if they would like to become a moderator. 

 

From there, each member is then placed under a senior moderation and trained. They are responsible their own subsection. If a member does not know how to infract or carry out his/her job, the staff member must ask  fellow moderators for guidance.

 

If a infraction is deemed unreasonable or incorrect, the one infracted may contest the infraction without rebuttal or being reprimanded by the moderating team.  


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Grollourdo, this post reminds me a lot of myself.

The first forums I ever encountered were the forums on bungie.net. I was enamoured with the game Halo 2, and I wanted to be a moderator so badly that I even made my account's password "bungierules" hoping that the moderators might pick up on it and for some reason be like "yup, that guy should be a moderator."
However, I was very young, probably around your age, and looking back on some of the posts I made, I was clearly unequipped for the position.

I never became one, but I found other ways to contribute to the community. I wrote fan fiction, which I unfortunately don't have a copy of, but it actually turned out to be pretty well followed. I engaged heavily with the debate community, and eventually began producing videos for tactical jumps that could be made to give your team an advantage. (That actually turned into trick jumping, but that led to a different forum and different community.)

I think anyone here can appreciate your desire to assist the community, but I don't think it's going to happen. I would recommend using the drive that caused you to post this to create, and do, and contribute to the community as you currently are. You'll be helping by being a productive member. Just reel it in a bit so that the points you make dont have to be deciphered from the enthusiasm. Trust me, there's a time and a place for just flat out enthusiasm as well. After all, we're all here because we love a game.

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Grollourdo, this post reminds me a lot of myself.

The first forums I ever encountered were the forums on bungie.net. I was enamoured with the game Halo 2, and I wanted to be a moderator so badly that I even made my account's password "bungierules" hoping that the moderators might pick up on it and for some reason be like "yup, that guy should be a moderator."
However, I was very young, probably around your age, and looking back on some of the posts I made, I was clearly unequipped for the position.

I never became one, but I found other ways to contribute to the community. I wrote fan fiction, which I unfortunately don't have a copy of, but it actually turned out to be pretty well followed. I engaged heavily with the debate community, and eventually began producing videos for tactical jumps that could be made to give your team an advantage. (That actually turned into trick jumping, but that led to a different forum and different community.)

I think anyone here can appreciate your desire to assist the community, but I don't think it's going to happen. I would recommend using the drive that caused you to post this to create, and do, and contribute to the community as you currently are. You'll be helping by being a productive member. Just reel it in a bit so that the points you make dont have to be deciphered from the enthusiasm. Trust me, there's a time and a place for just flat out enthusiasm as well. After all, we're all here because we love a game.

Amen!


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Grollourdo, this post reminds me a lot of myself.

The first forums I ever encountered were the forums on bungie.net. I was enamoured with the game Halo 2, and I wanted to be a moderator so badly that I even made my account's password "bungierules" hoping that the moderators might pick up on it and for some reason be like "yup, that guy should be a moderator."
However, I was very young, probably around your age, and looking back on some of the posts I made, I was clearly unequipped for the position.

I never became one, but I found other ways to contribute to the community. I wrote fan fiction, which I unfortunately don't have a copy of, but it actually turned out to be pretty well followed. I engaged heavily with the debate community, and eventually began producing videos for tactical jumps that could be made to give your team an advantage. (That actually turned into trick jumping, but that led to a different forum and different community.)

I think anyone here can appreciate your desire to assist the community, but I don't think it's going to happen. I would recommend using the drive that caused you to post this to create, and do, and contribute to the community as you currently are. You'll be helping by being a productive member. Just reel it in a bit so that the points you make dont have to be deciphered from the enthusiasm. Trust me, there's a time and a place for just flat out enthusiasm as well. After all, we're all here because we love a game.

XD Thx man XD yeah ur right XD

For everyone else XD I completely agree with u guys and understand what u think about this XD
I wasn't here on the forums when all these "disasters" happened XD so yeah I didn't know how bad it was and I never experienced the "disasters" XD so yeah I can't really have an opinion on if we should have mods/helpers like a lot of u guys....


I completely agree with u man (gonna edit this cuz I'm on my phone so yeah, i forgot ur name and can't retrieve it ATM) the guy that was part of that forum mod program,(edit:omeganull) that could be a real good thing.

I agree that yeah maybe the community's don't need any moderating help ATM so yeah....

Also the guy that said that he wouldn't take me as mod XD lol (edit:Duralumi) sure thing everyone has their opinions XD at least ur honest XD also I don't picture being a community helper as someone with power XD I think its more like responsibility but yeah I get ur point

The thing about power is that I might be able to get "power" but also I could always get striped of my "power" by someone more responsible no?


I might add stuff here later XD gonna read the thread again XD

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Hey Grollourdo,

 

A bit of advise, If you want to be taken seriously drop "so yeah" from your vocabulary. It makes you sound like you have no idea what you are talking about when in fact the opposite is true. Also its hard to read what you are saying when you overuse XD. It seems like you mean well but you don't have a ton of confidence in what you are saying when you break up your writing this way.

 

All the best

 

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Hey Grollourdo,
 
A bit of advise, If you want to be taken seriously drop "so yeah" from your vocabulary. It makes you sound like you have no idea what you are talking about when in fact the opposite is true. Also its hard to read what you are saying when you overuse XD. It seems like you mean well but you don't have a ton of confidence in what you are saying when you break up your writing this way.
 
All the best
 
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OK !

Thx alot man for the tips

I'll improve my writing!
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Just something I had to do when I first entered the professional world. Hope it helps!


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Just something I had to do when I first entered the professional world. Hope it helps!


It did Thx man !

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General rule of thumb when it comes to choosing moderators is that you don't pick the people who ask. This is because (And I'm not saying you are this way. I don't know anything about your behaviour.) there are many people who ask for it simply because they want the power, and have the personality types that end up leading to an abuse of power.

Also, if you're looking for writing tips for more professional sorts of scenarios, here's a few based on what I've seen from you.

Avoid using written vocal pauses. Things like, "uuuhh", "ummm" and other such non-words that really should only happen in vocal conversations. They are also frowned upon when giving speeches.

Avoid texting spellings such as, "thx" instead of "thanks", "ur" instead of "you are" or "you're", "u" instead of "you", or just things like "lol" or "lmao".

Avoid an overabundance of emotes. The major issue is, too many emotes can just make things hard to read. And given the informality and lightheartedness of emotes, they can be inappropriate when you're trying to come across seriously.

Were I the one to be in the position to find mods, based one what you wrote I probably wouldn't choose you. While you seem plenty sincere, friendly, and enthusiastic, it just comes across as not serious enough. I wouldn't be sure if people you had to handle would feel insulted that you didn't take their problems seriously, or that would be careful and attentive enough to your duties.

Not trying to pick on you. Just trying to help. If it makes you feel better, I wouldn't choose myself as a moderator either.


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General rule of thumb when it comes to choosing moderators is that you don't pick the people who ask. This is because (And I'm not saying you are this way. I don't know anything about your behaviour.) there are many people who ask for it simply because they want the power, and have the personality types that end up leading to an abuse of power.
Also, if you're looking for writing tips for more professional sorts of scenarios, here's a few based on what I've seen from you.
Avoid using written vocal pauses. Things like, "uuuhh", "ummm" and other such non-words that really should only happen in vocal conversations. They are also frowned upon when giving speeches.
Avoid texting spellings such as, "thx" instead of "thanks", "ur" instead of "you are" or "you're", "u" instead of "you", or just things like "lol" or "lmao".
Avoid an overabundance of emotes. The major issue is, too many emotes can just make things hard to read. And given the informality and lightheartedness of emotes, they can be inappropriate when you're trying to come across seriously.
Were I the one to be in the position to find mods, based one what you wrote I probably wouldn't choose you. While you seem plenty sincere, friendly, and enthusiastic, it just comes across as not serious enough. I wouldn't be sure if people you had to handle would feel insulted that you didn't take their problems seriously, or that would be careful and attentive enough to your duties.
Not trying to pick on you. Just trying to help. If it makes you feel better, I wouldn't choose myself as a moderator either.

Thanks for all the tips I really appreciate you taking your time in writing this.

Also

I think I can be serious at times or take matter calmly
I think its just that in my casual writings when I don't feel the obligated to be always serious because I think that (not only me but any other person) if someone is always writing seriously and never pops a smiley or something, I think it kills the vibe of that person

I think that the way you write can reflect your mood and personality.

I think that normally in like discussions and suggestions and all those casual topics, I want to express myself while leaving an "oder" of a mood

Like if I'm happy and enthusiastic, I'll write how I write when it happens (yes I agree tho that when this happens I still overuse Smileys and oral expressions)

But what about a different situation with a different vibe like everyone putting their opinions and brainstorming on a serious matter like for example that thread about air compressors or the technician being op, there I'll put my opinions and ideas constructively (to I agree I can still improve a lot)

What I'm trying to say is that I think why not have someone funny enthusiastic and casual, but of course there are times that the person has to get up and be firm and serious but if the person is always firm and serious then it takes away the human, down to earth part of the person.

Of course I completely understand if you don't see me as mod/helper (I don't know what to call it) but understand that if the person is too strict and and never giving a scent of happiness or enthusiasm, its just boring and what's the point? Of course the person will get the work done efficiently and quick but it as I said, takes away the human, down to earth part.
(All these examples are of course different if the person is fame hungry and power hungry)

Another thing is that (I'm not saying this for me to become mod/helper or anything just in general for the future too) you gotta try it first too, you have to try and if it doesn't work try anotger , don't be scared the little change will be permanent, if I become mod/helper now and u guys see I'm doing bad I can always be removed from mod/helper (of course unless the staff go silent like in the adhesive age)
We all have to try new things and if we don't like it change it or revert it back, if u like it then keep it and in the future "upgrade" it, make it even better and try it out and so on.

Groll

Edit: I forgot to say, I don't think your picking on me XD your just putting down your opinion, I like open people like that XD

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I just re read your poat , I completely agree with your point about the people who ask don't get picked. Its very true and I should have considered it befor I posted this thread...

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If I am not mistaken. I know Tiggs or Josh mentioned in a small one off meeting in teamspeak about this. I think they were going to be limiting the powers of mods to specific areas and not have banning and delete powers. I know I spoke with Josh in depth about this and he has his own ideas as well as Tiggs. So only time will tell when it happens and who will be picked.


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I've been playing online games since 1994. A long time. A LOT of games and a LOT of forums. The best I've ever seen do not take people who ask. They pick who they want after seeing how that person responds and communicates with the other players on the forums. They are NEVER given ban powers. That decision is up to the PAID lead Moderator. Period. It works better than anything else I have ever seen. Just my 2 old pennies worth. Your mileage may vary.


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Just give me mod, I'll drink and find a random person banned the next day


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Yeah good point you three

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(='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy bunny into
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And if you dont .... 

 

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(This is also me when u no cooperate in game XD)

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Moderators will be a volunteer position that we will have in the future. The first ones will be hand picked and after that we'll have an application process. We're not at that level yet, but it is on our list. 


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Please reconsider grollourdo. I remember how you handled the posts from USM999 ^^.


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KOBALT DEFENCE REGIMENT

...and let slip the dogs of war...

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Please reconsider grollourdo. I remember how you handled the posts from USM999 ^^.

 

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oh yeah i got a bit carried away by his arrogance ....

 

i ve been working on my anger management problems ..... god lol i now regret even clicking on USM's post ... lol XD


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 (\__/)
(='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy bunny into
 (") (") your signature to help him gain world domination XD

 

And if you dont .... 

 

bloody_keyboard.gif    <-------------- ME and Bunny
 
 
(This is also me when u no cooperate in game XD)

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oh yeah i got a bit carried away by his arrogance ....

 

i ve been working on my anger management problems ..... god lol i now regret even clicking on USM's post ... lol XD

 

Haha I have the same feeling. Also, some evenings I can rage a bit in-game too ^^.


KOBALT DEFENCE REGIMENT

...and let slip the dogs of war...

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oh yeah i got a bit carried away by his arrogance ....

 

i ve been working on my anger management problems ..... god lol i now regret even clicking on USM's post ... lol XD

Eh. Kid's an ass. Lies so much and so big it's easy for him to piss most people off. You should have seen me tear him apart on the old forums. It was glorious.

I also challenged him to a fight in Hawken, so that he could prove he was competant and he wasn't just falsely accusing people because he sucks at the game. He called me a homosexual slur, and responded with various other colorful insults.

Never did take me up on that dual though...


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lol XD remind me never to get on your bad side XD


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(='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy bunny into
 (") (") your signature to help him gain world domination XD

 

And if you dont .... 

 

bloody_keyboard.gif    <-------------- ME and Bunny
 
 
(This is also me when u no cooperate in game XD)

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AJK, I will take you up on your duel offer.

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AJK, I will take you up on your duel offer.

And to replicate what would happen during the duel, please use as much racial and homosexual slurs as possible, plus tons of idiotic theories. You must also come on the forums and tell us how you smashed his sorry, cheating arse.

You can thank me with money, l booberitas, world domination or a life-size space marine costume.

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AJK, I will take you up on your duel offer.

Too bad you weren't on at 3am... ;_;






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