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So used to play Hawken. It was pretty fun.

 

One thing I disliked where the 1 sided matches whether on the winning or losing side. Came back today, every game I entered was 20+ to 5 or similar score wise.

So same thing is going on? This common?

 

I see we can't customize our mech points, but meh ok. Is the game still just a few people destroying and the rest playing catch up similar to a few years ago?

 

The forum seems dismal. Very elitist with a few airing dirty laundry and not much else. Am I entering the room at a bad time or is this the state of the game?

 

Thank you for your time.


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You gotta fight through all the BS bro.


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You mean like this ..... Smurfing out of control. This in a 1400-1800 mmr match

 

http://steamcommunit...s/?id=503583138

 

http://steamcommunit...s/?id=503583150


Edited by DieselCat, 20 August 2015 - 09:23 PM.

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Just Relax....and take life one game at a time....

Don't run to your death....walk

 

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Dude you had donald trump in your team!

 

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You mean like this ..... Smurfing out of control. This in a 1400-1800 mmr match

http://steamcommunit...s/?id=503583138

http://steamcommunit...s/?id=503583150


Not entirely convinced this is a high-MMR player smurfing, actually. I came across FckUNoob (herokuapp shows that this callsign no longer exists so I'm assuming they had to change their name) who had the same attitude, same pilot emblem, and also only played Reaper. They were definitely botting and couldn't position themselves or move for fuzzy bunny--the only tactic they used was hovering around until they had LOS on someone and then hitting every shot unless something got in the way. I saw them tracking enemies behind walls and snapping on my killcam, so I'm 99% sure they aren't legitimate. They also scored around 800 in an Eco match I joined halfway through, but on Uptown I just controlled the distances we fought at in Brawler (they still tried hovering around while shooting even at close range) so they ended up with 150-200.
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You mean like this ..... Smurfing out of control. This in a 1400-1800 mmr match

 

http://steamcommunit...s/?id=503583138

 

http://steamcommunit...s/?id=503583150

 

I'll see that one and raise you a match last night where a level 5 player in a stock Assault (with a 250 ping) came out with 2524 points, 57 kills and 1 death in a match that scrimbot said was and srd of 1450-1950.  I saw no sign of cheating... just a lot of bragging about how his "team was useless - good thing I was here."

 

BUT BACK TO THE OP's QUESTION:

This is probably too soon to develop any opinions about Hawken, especially when relating to team balancing.  A whole new company owns Hawken now and a new development team is forming as I type.  The problems with team balance and matchmaking are due to the system Hawken uses was designed for having several thousand players online all the time.  Without those numbers, matches start with only 4 - 5 players all the time and the people who join a match after that are being put on the team with the fewest players or the team that's losing, regardless of their skill level - and that's OK... when you have more players and matches that start mostly full (w/ 9 to 11 players).

 

If it's frustrating you enough to ruin the enjoyment, it's probably best to put Hawken away until around the middle of next year and then come back to big changes and more players. :)


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To be serious for a moment this is just a joke

 


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Not entirely convinced this is a high-MMR player smurfing, actually. I came across FckUNoob (herokuapp shows that this callsign no longer exists so I'm assuming they had to change their name) who had the same attitude, same pilot emblem, and also only played Reaper. They were definitely botting and couldn't position themselves or move for fuzzy bunny--the only tactic they used was hovering around until they had LOS on someone and then hitting every shot unless something got in the way. I saw them tracking enemies behind walls and snapping on my killcam, so I'm 99% sure they aren't legitimate. They also scored around 800 in an Eco match I joined halfway through, but on Uptown I just controlled the distances we fought at in Brawler (they still tried hovering around while shooting even at close range) so they ended up with 150-200.

Can confirm. There are a few botters who only play reaper/SS because hitscan and works perfectly with aimbots. These same people also accused me of hacking numerous times and then left the room shortly before letting the lobby know they were going to join lower mmr lobbies and ruin them.


Edited by IareDave, 21 August 2015 - 08:36 AM.

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So used to play Hawken. It was pretty fun.

One thing I disliked where the 1 sided matches whether on the winning or losing side. Came back today, every game I entered was 20+ to 5 or similar score wise.
So same thing is going on? This common?

I see we can't customize our mech points, but meh ok. Is the game still just a few people destroying and the rest playing catch up similar to a few years ago?

The forum seems dismal. Very elitist with a few airing dirty laundry and not much else. Am I entering the room at a bad time or is this the state of the game?

Thank you for your time.


I'm not sure what you mean by "mech points," but yes, just about everything you asked about has the answer "yes."

A significant but non-majority amount of games is dominated by only one team.

High-skill players dominating a game is still fairly common but not as bad as before MMR balancing came out.

The forums have indeed become very elitist and in general not helpful.

Thank you for your time,

 

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W32, I'd say he was talking about the old skill system. (OP) Yeah welcome to where ya hope don't get a loser hacker or a high MMR player who can't find  a game his level or isn't trying to find one his level. (Most aren't like that, but yeah there are some.) Welcome back, take care, :thumbsup:


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When the score is 20-5 and you are losing.   Look at yourself and what you should improve on, not the devs and what they should be nerfing.



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When the score is 20-5 and you are losing.   Look at yourself and what you should improve on, not the devs and what they should be nerfing.

 

yes pretty obvious the average player is to blame because he can't cope with players that are rated 400-800 higher than himself.

I guess this is why the community is so small. All the whiners an scrubs, that simply are too stupid to realise that they have been given a gift by being stomped over and over again and just quit the game for good.


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yes pretty obvious the average player is to blame because he can't cope with players that are rated 400-800 higher than himself.
I guess this is why the community is so small. All the whiners an scrubs, that simply are too stupid to realise that they have been given a gift by being stomped over and over again and just quit the game for good.


Unfortunately not everyone shares that mentality and players would like to just hop in from time to time and have some 'fun', I.e balanced matches. But Hawken is a PvP game and like any PvP game skill disparitys are a given.
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The forums have indeed become very elitist and in general not helpful.

 

example :

 

yes pretty obvious the average player is to blame because he can't cope with players that are rated 400-800 higher than himself.

I guess this is why the community is so small. All the whiners an scrubs, that simply are too stupid to realise that they have been given a gift by being stomped over and over again and just quit the game for good.



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you do understand sarcasm right?






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