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30$ for 1 month server in 30 tick

in other games I got about 15$ for 60 or 128 tick



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Yep. This is why almost noone has bought the new ones.


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The official response:

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The official response:

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It would be nice if they could be that communicative on the forums...


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It'd be nice if they'd actually let me buy the damn server, its been what like two months now or something


Last time I asked about it I was told they needed to clear up issues with mechs and such disappearing then they could get my server up.. why would you even announce you're selling servers if you won't sell me one >:c

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Yes. Very interesting observation.  You have a great opinion on how you should feel about these servers, and their current situations.  You are correct; i whole kindheartedly trust your judgements and feelings.

 

You are most, definitely correct on the stances on where you stand.  Completely wonderful, just great.   Keep up the great work.

 

Glad to get this off my chest; I appreciate this thread a lot.



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just buy and keep the dev on  :tongue:


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The official response:

 

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This response is completely untrue and false

 

I can loan the full server

and remotely setup the whole server side software no it

for the price which I said in the first post

especially in Europe and Asia

 

I'm managing that many small corporation websites to protect it from external attacks



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This response is completely untrue and false

 

You should take the effort to identify the server providers that Hawken is using across the globe, identify the "true" cost to rent a server of the same tick rate from each of those providers, and find cheaper alternatives in those same regions for higher tick rates. When you are done, post a table of your findings (Hawken cost, true cost, alternative cost) in this thread so that we may all benefit from it.

 

This shouldn't be too hard. Good luck!


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For those that purchased the Pioneer servers, we paid $120 for 3 months, and have had them for over a year.  If we buy another year's worth of server time, average cost is less than $20/month.  I can't really complain about that.

 

It would be great if they were cheaper but meh...


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While I also believe that they are overpriced, private servers aren't essential in this game.



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private servers aren't essential in this game.

 

That's only true for pubs. For competitive play, private servers absolutely essential. Private servers allow us to move players on the same team, to rotate maps, and change gametypes.

 

Edit: and to disable radar, to disable killcam, to disable death orbs, to gain access to maps that aren't in a pub rotation (eco winter, test arena), and to use spectator mode where Reloaded will allow us to use it.

 

Edit2: and to put passwords on servers so teams can perform in-house practices.


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For those that purchased the Pioneer servers, we paid $120 for 3 months, and have had them for over a year. If we buy another year's worth of server time, average cost is less than $20/month. I can't really complain about that.

It would be great if they were cheaper but meh...


Still wasn't worth it because they never kept up with the momentum they had rolling at the time they started the Pioneer program. I had one, but never ended up using it because I still couldn't get friends to play the game even with our own server.

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Still wasn't worth it because they never kept up with the momentum they had rolling at the time they started the Pioneer program. I had one, but never ended up using it because I still couldn't get friends to play the game even with our own server.


If you couldn't get your buds to play this wildly awesome game you might have to question if they are really your buds. Or, your sales skills are severely mega lacking. HAWKEN IS FOR CLOSERS! Muahahaha.

Cost of private servers is peanuts because those who would want them are salivating lovers of this game who would inject it into their arm if they could. Just saying.
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You should take the effort to identify the server providers that Hawken is using across the globe, identify the "true" cost to rent a server of the same tick rate from each of those providers, and find cheaper alternatives in those same regions for higher tick rates. When you are done, post a table of your findings (Hawken cost, true cost, alternative cost) in this thread so that we may all benefit from it.

 

This shouldn't be too hard. Good luck!

 

Sorry, but I won't be posting this here, because it will be advertising. There are many ISP, that can loan bandwidth with your server send to them by courier. Prices are more than half, compared to what we now have here. Just ask any real admin if what I say is true.



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I don't think anyone will ban you for listing server providers in a video game's forum.



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Sorry, but I won't be posting this here, because it will be advertising. There are many ISP, that can loan bandwidth with your server send to them by courier. Prices are more than half, compared to what we now have here. Just ask any real admin if what I say is true.

 

Sounds like a cop-out to me.


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Just ask any real admin if what I say is true.

 

I know a guy named Bill who's a real admin. He said the moon is made of cheese, servers are governed by the black magiks of Tuthelan the Destroyer, and that asserting things on the internet without citation only works if you're addressing fools.

 

And you know it is totally legit becasue I asked a real admin.


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I don't think anyone will ban you for listing server providers in a video game's forum.

Sounds like a cop-out to me.

 

Sorry, but I not paid to be a spoonfeeder for little kids development.
 

I know a guy named Bill who's a real admin. He said the moon is made of cheese, servers are governed by the black magiks of Tuthelan the Destroyer, and that asserting things on the internet without citation only works if you're addressing fools.

 

And you know it is totally legit becasue I asked a real admin.

 

That's why I asked you to ask him about things which he's the most knowledge about,

not about things he have no idea what's he talking about.



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Redundant redundancy for topic title.


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Sorry, but I not paid to be a spoonfeeder for little kids development.

 

But you are paid to post fuzzy bunny, I see.


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No and why would anyone paid me to beating dead dog.

It's just I'm not gonna waste my time to search all of it

" identify the server providers that Hawken is using across the globe, identify the "true" cost to rent a server of the same tick rate from each of those providers"



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No and why would anyone paid me to beating dead dog.

It's just I'm not gonna waste my time to search all of it

" identify the server providers that Hawken is using across the globe, identify the "true" cost to rent a server of the same tick rate from each of those providers"

 

not going to waste time validating and backing up your claim complaint that you made in the OP

 

because complaining about things is way easier than trying to support your claim because if you don't it's completely unsubstantiated and false

 

because when you make a claim, it's not your responsibility to back it up

 

logic


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My farewell post probably.

So NetByNet and DomRU offers 15$ for 60 or 128 tick.

Just loan the server or sent to them by yourself. It's all about the bandwidth.



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It's a shame most of the world can't rent from those wonderfully cheap sites because they are only available in Russian... This might affect the developers as well, but I'm not sure. I heard Russain is a very common language in America.


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So NetByNet and DomRU offers 15$ for 60 or 128 tick.

Just loan the server or sent to them by yourself. It's all about the bandwidth.

 

Did you just post prices for servers located in Russia? Have you considered that server prices may be more expensive in a land known as 'MURICA?

 

Anyways, you have a few more continents to research. You've already started, so I know you can do it! Don't let anyone - including yourself - tell you that you can't reach your goal!

 

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Is this drink-worthy? Or does the whole thread have to be a farewell thread?

 

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This response is completely untrue and false
 
I can loan the full server
and remotely setup the whole server side software no it
for the price which I said in the first post
especially in Europe and Asia
 
I'm managing that many small corporation websites to protect it from external attacks


I don't see full servers being that cheap.
If they have decent specs and are on a network that works with their storm then $30ish sounds more likely.
Saying you can do it cheaper, doesn't mean that Hawken should run on it.

How about you go rent out a few more of your alleged server stash, then use your profits to get a private Hawken server, and quit whinging.

[disclaimer] I work for a company that hosts private cloud servers to SMB clients and they are definitely not $30/mo[/disclaimer]

TL;DR "I sell apples. Why are these oranges a different price"

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TL;DR "I sell apples. Why are these oranges a different price"

 

Because Apple products are overpriced ?  :teehee:


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