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130 ping on LA? 170 In Dallas? 140 in Ashburn? 68 in Oregon?  Hawken servers WHAT ARE YOU DOING? Packet loss is insane. Rubberbanding is at an all time high. What could be causing these issues?

 


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QoS of our servers' routing to the outside world.


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Servers need to get better asap, I've been getting worse ping across the board.


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from USE, forget LA servers. I backed out of a game because I thot my OCing was jacking with the game. ridiculous. Dallas is around 80 for me (usually about 56 or whatever).

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I was thinking the other day how much better the servers were when no one was running them - even when the devs were silent, I could easily find a server with ping of 40 or less.


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60% financial savings ...

 

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For every 10 points of MMR above 1400, the mm adds 1ms to ping to keep it 'fair'.

Edited by FakeName, 17 May 2015 - 08:44 PM.

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60% financial savings ...

Savings won't help anyone if the game loses players due to horrible server performance.



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Yeah. This is why I stopped playing... Again... After starting up so recently too...

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Same in EU server :(

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When has it been happening on EU? I've not noticed any at all.



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I was thinking the other day how much better the servers were when no one was running them - even when the devs were silent, I could easily find a server with ping of 40 or less.

iirc, the old devs left the tickrate at a stupidly high value and were losing money because of it.  That's not to say that low tickrate is the solution, but a higher number does reduce pings for some reason.  


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Savings won't help anyone if the game loses players due to horrible server performance.

 

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At least some of the infrastructure is hosted on AWS.

 

I think the gameservers used to be hosted on AWS, but now are on other servers.  I think this is to save operating expense - the cashflow going out.

 

I suspect we have routing issues for some players some ISPs, depending on how each of us is routed to the server.  It's possible a reset of our own edge router (home router) will result in a shorter path, but the dynamicism of the packetloss and (my experience) dependency on the server load says it probably is server-side.

 

Xacius, a double in tickrate from 30 to 60/66 Hz will improve ping by 4-6ms depending on reporting intervals (2ms steps), assuming a 2-tick turnaround.


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Servers need to get better asap, I've been getting worse ping across the board.

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When I was playing the other day my FPS dropped from the usual steady 120(or 140, not sure about the standard fps cap) to about 40, jumping up and down.

This happened to my buddy(who was sitting right next to me) too, so it wasn't related to hardware issues on my end.

 

But the part I don't get (maybe there is something I'm missing, I'm not an expert on these things) is why high pings would result in major FPS drops?
But shouldn't a high ping result in missing shots and people "teleporting" (because of delayed position updates) and stuff? This shouldn't affect the actual rendering of the scenery right?

 

A couple of months ago, when I played a couple of games on USE instead of EU (I'm from the EU) with 4x as high ping as usual, not a single frame dropped.

So, because of this, I would assume it has something to do with packet drops? But aren't packet drops up in the same alley with high pings? Not getting a packet because it dropped means not getting any positioning/stat updates right?

 

 

Or is all of this some kind of safety mechanism to make sure people can't cheat using lagswitches or w/e?

 

 

Anyway, I'm not an expert on network game development mechanisms, so if someone could enlighten me on the matter that would be great :D



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Are you serious? I'm getting better ping on those servers, but i live in EU. Wha~?


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My ping has been all over the place as well.  180 in Dallas where its normally less than 50.  I did notice that if I drop out and rejoin the match my ping improves drastically.






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