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ArchMech-Twitch.Tv/ArcanicFlame-Today at 1:47 PM

 
you know this isnt going well, right?
 
wait, I GET IT NOW 
 
you restricted weapons, items, and internals, so that later YOU COULD SELL THE OPTION TO UNRESTRICT THEM RIGHT?



 Tiggs-Today at 10:14 PM

 
no functional customization is broken, we're distilling it right now, with the intent to reintroduce it later on and do it better

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Edited by ArchMech, 02 July 2016 - 07:18 PM.

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hes only salty because i told him to bump this thread


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Wait, there is a discord for hawken?

 

Oh and cool news. 



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riot. did you notice no flame posts elsewhere?

it may be my own opine, but i'm beginning to think no one really GAS any more.

 

edit: not being trolly.  the current consensus is "Oh well. Whatever. RAGE. go get another drink."

i think the deadliest thing that will happen to this game, and soon, is apathy. the 2 or 3 hundred mad-as-hell players have moved on, and long ago

console is not fooling anyone--you won't see the same streamers next week, guaranteed, especially now they're finding out this is a ported game from 4-5 years ago with no updates recently.  gawd help the PC side.

 

i will play till the servers shut down. you won't chase me away.


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So, is this legit or not? If it is: calling it out as a photoshop right away without any evidence obliterated any and all respect I have for you when the community is so unstable.



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he was joking fli i can assure u its legit, i told him to bump my thread and he trolled me, all good


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Looking how the system is built right now the static internals appear to be very much intended. If this turns out to be legit, it appears to be more of a backpedal than anything else.


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i understand sometimes in game dev there are complications and the like...

 

though to me it seems to me more what arch first suggested than a hiccup in the changes they have made....

 

but as long as they GENUINELY intend on bringing back the customization I could handle a few weeks of everyone having equal builds


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Well, makes since for me. The weapon backends were messed up and you couldn't adjust weapons at all without affected all other mechs with them. 


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Right, so rather than fixing customization before releasing the game, they decided to spend their time setting up a whole new system and assign internals, items, and certain primary weapons to each mech.  I'm sure that's what happened.

 

Still, even if they aren't being honest, they are at least trying to make things less terrible (honestly how did they think we'd react?).

 

If this is real, we now get to start worrying about what Reloaded's idea of "better" is.  That and the rest of the fuzzy bunnyups they've made like the G2 mechs.


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honestly i trust them with hawken, if RLD goes under thats when ill lose trust in them


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Troll or not,I can confirm this a a real thing said by Tiggs, as it is appears to be a copy/paste message. Seen her message in a Twitch stream this afternnoon. Could be a backpedal, but confirms the possibility of reverting back to customizable items/internals.

 

While initially upset about what I've seen so far, I've gone back to just waiting, seeing it as bittersweet; I realize no matter how lazy or incompetent reloaded is or may come across, they haven't made promises to us, as well as probably having obligations to fill and people in business suits to appease. In retrospect, it looks like they're juggling to keep everyone happy while still moving forward, if you consider there's probably some faceless people behind the scenes expecting to get a return on their investment.

 

If their top priority was getting the technical side established well, meaning both ports work the way they intended them to (assuming the PS4 launch goes as smooth as the XBone did), then they fulfilled it [top priority].  Although updates were inconsistent, they were usually filled with tech mumbo-jumbo. This is what they set out to do first, and it looks like they're accomplishing it. Simple as that.



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the_magster1337 : However a lot of the work/optimizations that have been done directly carry over, and being on the tech side I can tell you that there have been quite a few :)
the_magster1337 : In terms of performance bug fixing etc
 
(this is from mag_ the other day via twitch pms)
 
as far as i can see, from the post/information available, the render engine is upped from dx9 to dx12, actionscript 2 has been upgraded to....something? the data layer has been secured, the back end is...better?, and the games on almost both consoles! id say we got everything we asked for lmao

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i don't know what to say.
for me,

1) with current console mechanics devs get rid shield/emp spam. the made all weapons not useless and usably, due by hard point by mech.
disabling it, it is mean... they dont change nothing mechanics, just add an "upgrade" for items amount. 
it doesn't fix current game problems.

2) Internals. Devs making hardpoint for internals, and try to balance mechs. for example flak brawler. it have a orb-lord build. what it does mean. (based on current stat)
170 hp orb. +25% gain from rep.kit = 212 each orb.
brawler have 900hp + 636 bonus hp = 1536 hp and +30% rep.rate. now

i change interhal. 20% deflector + fusor. + 3 orb and 1 shield.
170*3 = 510 hp. +180 hp from fuz. = 690 bonus hp
+ 20% def hp economy if i use jumping and exploites which activate def while junp = ~180 potencial hp.
= 900 + 690 + 180 = 1770 potencial hp if you doing it right.

it is just can be insane on some maps and with def+fuzor brawler (in my opinion) more mobile and more survival. it can't totally unbeatable and working like a "train" if you just jumping to opponent and shooting from flak while jump. 

what i'm trying to say? with console internals mechanics game probably trying to balance it more, and not just create most viable combinations on mech.
you free customization probably always be illusion, cuz your always use the same builds like fuz+def, or air-comp+fuz (just for example)

if people trying different internals/builds on brawler like "repair-kit x2, fail-save x1, extractor x1, reconstructor x1, fuel-regen x1"
nobody don't use build like this. Yes, tou can do it on brawler, but this build just USELESS, and not give you what you need. 
what we get in the end? people have 25-30 internals, but they always creating viable build from 3-4. this is just tryth guys, and you know it.


what i'm trying to say. returning to current system just not give us nothing actually, and not fix nothing. how i see this. if devs return all changes...we just get the same game with ripped of 2/3 weapons, with the same playstyle and still will be play in siege with 10 shields, EMP and orbs. 


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This does make sense to me, since allowing players the option to buy internals/items is likely a very valuable option for monetization. Not having that in the game would remove from them another source of income. Releasing the game in a broken state, however, seems like a questionable move, and one that I can only guess was a hardline date they had to meet contractually, and thus made compromises along the way to meet that date.

 

Even if this theory isn't true, I'm just glad to hear that item/internals customization will work its way back in.



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I'm pretty sure things would be more acceptable for the community if we know where Reloaded is going. For now on, it feels like a mad surgeon is toying with your long beloved boy/girlfriend's face, body and brain, saying with a happy face "trust me, it will be nice at the end!"

 

If they would come and say "hey gals and guys, this is what we plan for Hawken in term of gameplay change, we know it won't please everyone, but this a necessity because blah blah. Here are the changes: blah blah," sure there will be some riots, but at the end, things would be clear. Right now, any piece of news extracted by whatever unofficial mean makes a fuzzy bunny rumble in all the forum for days. I don't think it's any better...


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Hey look more speculation based off vague information that should be readily available here on the main Hawken forums/website instead of being spouted off in random streams for people just discovering Hawken.

 

It's cool if this is actually the case and things will be reverting back but this is another shining example of how terrible communication is with Reloaded and how basic things such as this which would go a long ways in helping calm the community down aren't included in updates or other posts.

 

Not sure why it is so hard for Reloaded to get all their information gathered in one place and make it readily available so everyone can get on the same page, in the same book, and stop trying to figure what is going on based on speculation, vague statements, uploaded footage from anyone but Reloaded, and information being spread through Twitch Stream chat.

 

Again hope this is the case and things will improve from what we've seen thus far but Reloaded seriously needs to get their fuzzy bunny together when it comes to getting information out there.


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They really shot themselves in the foot by not fixing the Customization before releasing the console versions.

The Mech garage will probably be DLC anyway.
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I think they just change lines of code randomly and check to the forums to see if it broke something.



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Edited by ArchMech, 03 July 2016 - 08:47 AM.

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Mk, welp that is a good feather of info. to put in the hat. Wonder how long the new system will take to be put in place.



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Will the Berserker only be allowed the submachine gun now and not the point D Vulcan?

 

 

Presumably, yes.  They did say somewhere that alternate weapons would return at a later time, though this could be a while from now and they could in theory change which weapons are chosen.

 

 


....but in the q&a thread, was it not stated that having only one primary weapon per mech was a design choice?
Edit:

"Do mechs now have only one primary or do we still have 3 primaries per mech?

 

Mechs now only have one primary, one secondary weapon. We anticipate this functionality to carry over to PC as well. However, the goal is to support the 3-primary weapons feature for mechs that already were owned."

I do hope that restoring and enhancing cosmetic customizations as well as 3 primaries, items and internals becomes a reality.
The game will become so limited otherwise.

Also, I believe there is confusion concerning precisely what "customizations" means.. We could use clarification on that.
Is it cosmetic only? Weapons also? Items? Internals?


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@other arch, we dunno bro! thus we ask questions of the devs all journalistic like and get indirect answers to which we infer as a collective as whatever the fuzzy bunny we want


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we're all riding on a plane to a destination only the pilots know, wondering if the landing gear work, and why all our passenger seats are located in the bomb bay. welcome to Hawken.

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we're all riding on a plane to a destination only the pilots know, wondering if the landing gear work, and why all our passenger seats are located in the bomb bay. welcome to Hawken.

:rolleyes:

you get seats indoors? lucky you! 


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