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As if this topic needed to be hammered down anymore

 

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This was taken while there were several 1900-2100 lobbies going on at the moment, but instead, the matchmaking placed me matches with very low mmr players who were also having difficulty meeting the criteria of joining matches closest to their MMR range. This system was just like the old one, and I know Josh reverted the matchmaking back to this after the backlash of all the forum QQ threads and/or survery results, but surely there can be a compromise and some simple fixes that will prevent the highest, or lowest of mmrs from being placed together when there are perfectly viable rooms available for both parties.


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i cant agree more


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or making it voluntary for fun or education of noobs with no evil.  see my above post in suggs.

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Dave the next time you get into a match with an MMR range of 950-2900, please go full ruthless Lucifer on their asses for the entirety of the match.  I want you sweating from the magnitude of effort I expect you to exert.

 

I just want to see the end-match stats.  That will sustain me.


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Dave the next time you get into a match with an MMR range of 950-2900, please go full ruthless Lucifer on their asses for the entirety of the match.  I want you sweating from the magnitude of effort I expect you to exert.

 

I just want to see the end-match stats.  That will sustain me.

Sounds like a great way to keep onto new players. 


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950 mmr??? How??



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I was going to say something about how they increased the lock, and then I realized it probably doesn't make a difference at 2800+ mmr. Other than (hopefully) 2.2+ lobbies will propogate more frequently, (hopefully) meaning matchmaker can put you in those more often.


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As if this topic needed to be hammered down anymore

 

This was taken while there were several 1900-2100 lobbies going on at the moment, but instead, the matchmaking placed me matches with very low mmr players who were also having difficulty meeting the criteria of joining matches closest to their MMR range. This system was just like the old one, and I know Josh reverted the matchmaking back to this after the backlash of all the forum QQ threads and/or survery results, but surely there can be a compromise and some simple fixes that will prevent the highest, or lowest of mmrs from being placed together when there are perfectly viable rooms available for both parties.

 

Its pretty easy to understand, what you and everyone else think is a "viable lobby" isn't according to the matchmaker algorithm, its as simple as that.  It could be for a number of different reasons, time left in game probably being the biggest invalidator that you (and every other person that starts one of these threads) seem to overlook so easily.  I really don't know all of the variables it takes into account.  The system skipped those lobbies and did what it did because people like you bitched about not being able to find a lobby, remember??  Now when the timer runs out it throws its hands in the air and ignores any restrictions and places you in the best lobby, which happened to be that one.  Prior to Joshs timer modifications it would just error out and say there was no lobbies found, remember?  I thought that was why you smurfed.

 

Yes I get it, its not an ideal situation, but news flash, its always worked like this.  Its always been broken.  Why on earth do you expect anything different when theres been no major changes to the way the broken system works??

 

I just wonder how long Josh is going to keep wrapping bailing wire and duct tape on this 1959 Ford Edsel hes driving, for christs sake junk it and start over with something different.


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950 mmr??? How??

 

i don't understand this part too. i thibk when you start you have 1400.


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just unlearn how to play, 

i recommend using  arrow keys and left arm


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i don't understand this part too. i thibk when you start you have 1400.

 

 

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i feel the problem is not that there are not enough rooms for high players, but that there is not enough of them trying to go into a match at once, ie xacius is the only one at his mmr waiting in match maker, so it dumps him in random server.

 

i wonder if this could be helped if the server tagged the highest mmr server it could find and dump high level players there, though i wonder if match maker could be made to take into account the lowest mmr in the server as a variable. As clearly opening the range does not result in better matches, i wonder if its due to the fact the buffer players in the 2000 to 2100 range get dropped in lower rounds, further reducing the number of good rooms for high mmr players.

 

Just thoughts, what do you guys think? 


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Sounds like a great way to keep onto new players. 

christ stop whining on and on about this

 

a person has 2 or 3 bad matches. terrible matches, even.

 

they are not going to abandon the game



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i feel the problem is not that there are not enough rooms for high players, but that there is not enough of them trying to go into a match at once, ie xacius is the only one at his mmr waiting in match maker, so it dumps him in random server.

 

i wonder if this could be helped if the server tagged the highest mmr server it could find and dump high level players there, though i wonder if match maker could be made to take into account the lowest mmr in the server as a variable. As clearly opening the range does not result in better matches, i wonder if its due to the fact the buffer players in the 2000 to 2100 range get dropped in lower rounds, further reducing the number of good rooms for high mmr players.

 

Just thoughts, what do you guys think? 

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Unlocking the servers would fix all of these issues.


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Now when the timer runs out it throws its hands in the air and ignores any restrictions and places you in the best lobby, which happened to be that one.  Prior to Joshs timer modifications it would just error out and say there was no lobbies found, remember?  I thought that was why you smurfed.

 thats incorrect. if i chose a specific game type like MA or TDM it would eventually say no games available. if i chose the any game option it would eventually drop me into a deathmatch if no other game mode was available. 99/100 times its either an empty lobby or it matches me with a low level player. matchmaker still errors out quite frequently and even when tdm or w/e server are clearly open most of the time it drops me into a deathmatch or an empty lobby or just times out


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Its pretty easy to understand, what you and everyone else think is a "viable lobby" isn't according to the matchmaker algorithm, its as simple as that.  It could be for a number of different reasons, time left in game probably being the biggest invalidator that you (and every other person that starts one of these threads) seem to overlook so easily.  I really don't know all of the variables it takes into account.  The system skipped those lobbies and did what it did because people like you bitched about not being able to find a lobby, remember??  Now when the timer runs out it throws its hands in the air and ignores any restrictions and places you in the best lobby, which happened to be that one.  Prior to Joshs timer modifications it would just error out and say there was no lobbies found, remember?  I thought that was why you smurfed.

 

This entire short-story by you is made false by the simple fact that the error message 'unable to find a lobby' is still a present issue.

 

On another note, looking back I think the issue is that my combined MMR with some of these lads was most likely on par or slightly higher than the average of lobbies present at the time. However, it doesn't make sense that the matchmaking system would think that placing  these low MMR players against much higher MMR players is the correct decision when there were clearly a lot more balanced matches they could of joined in the 1200-1800 range.


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Unlock the servers!!! We lower MMR players need to play against the best in the game.  I would suggest that veteran players not be killwhores but leaders.  I got some great tips last night playing against higher mmr rated players.  More exposure to harder matches makes better players.  (and weeds out the filthy casuals)


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Unlock the servers!!! We lower MMR players need to play against the best in the game. I would suggest that veteran players not be killwhores but leaders. I got some great tips last night playing against higher mmr rated players. More exposure to harder matches makes better players. (and weeds out the filthy casuals)

it is sad, but not all people have same logic as you.
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The stupid part is they let people actually get near the cap in the first place. It should be increasingly hard to gain MMR past 2000-2100 and damn near impossible to reach the current cap.



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Unlock the servers!!! We lower MMR players need to play against the best in the game.  I would suggest that veteran players not be killwhores but leaders.  I got some great tips last night playing against higher mmr rated players.  More exposure to harder matches makes better players.  (and weeds out the filthy casuals)

 

I agree with your above suggestion about unlocking the servers...except weeding out (as you say, if that's what you really mean) the filthy casuals is a bad idea, since the game in general is made up of mostly casual players and we need as many to stay as possible.

 

Unlocking the servers from top to bottom means all level mmr players will be in matches together, which may not be such a bad thing with player pop being so little at ATM.

 

This may in the long run help lower skilled players, that want to try and improve their game...but it's the current low number of people playing that is the main cause and effect of what's happening here.

 

Little backend tweaks and such by the dev team really aren't going to fix this issue until the player population grows and is able to sustain large numbers....which I think will happen down the road. 

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Its pretty easy to understand, what you and everyone else think is a "viable lobby" isn't according to the matchmaker algorithm, its as simple as that.  It could be for a number of different reasons, time left in game probably being the biggest invalidator that you (and every other person that starts one of these threads) seem to overlook so easily. 

 

Pretty sure time remaining isn't what's being used to invalidate servers, or if it is it's very poorly implemented. I regularly quickmatch into servers right before the victory/defeat screen or with less than a minute remaining.

 

A couple of times recently I've checked herokuapp's server list when this happens to me to see what the options actually were, and often enough there are one or two other servers with a similar or even higher average mmr currently running with spaces available and only about halfway through the match. I don't have screenshots of this happening, but next time it does I definitely will take some.

 

 

 

I just wonder how long Josh is going to keep wrapping bailing wire and duct tape on this 1959 Ford Edsel hes driving, for christs sake junk it and start over with something different.

 

I 100% agree.


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As if this topic needed to be hammered down anymore

 

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This was taken while there were several 1900-2100 lobbies going on at the moment, but instead, the matchmaking placed me matches with very low mmr players who were also having difficulty meeting the criteria of joining matches closest to their MMR range. This system was just like the old one, and I know Josh reverted the matchmaking back to this after the backlash of all the forum QQ threads and/or survery results, but surely there can be a compromise and some simple fixes that will prevent the highest, or lowest of mmrs from being placed together when there are perfectly viable rooms available for both parties.

 

Thanks for taking the time to chat and the matches. This ongoing battle in the forum about high mmr player (top tier) and lower tier players is a battle only Reloaded can resolve. After all it's their game and they have to do what it takes to make it profitable.

Your one and only comment (about my game play) to me during our match was "keep up with the team". Didn't get a chance to respond then, but honestly you all were going where I wanted to be, just I could NOT get there fast enough. We all play the same mechs and they all work the same for each of us, but no matter what I did as a pilot, just could not do what you were doing. For me, it's reaction time, too old too slow.


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Like ^^^.....You're only 36 :smile: 

 

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that happens to me too dave, and i'm no mlg elite pro.  

 

stop looking for excuses for bad behavior. 



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[quote name="phed" post="58247" timestamp="1441496694"]

that happens to me too dave, and i'm no mlg elite pro.

stop looking for excuses for bad behavior. [/quote

If you're implying that I'm smurfing you're assumptions are wrong. And if you think smurfing is bad behavior you clearly don't know what it feels like to want to play the game you enjoy but can't from poor coding(matchmaking).

I haven't pubbed Hawken for months until last night and was simply posting my results and it gave me a flashback as to why I quit the game many months ago when this system was in place(prior to Josh changing things up, temporarily).

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This entire short-story by you is made false by the simple fact that the error message 'unable to find a lobby' is still a present issue.

According to Josh the matchmaker always places a player into a match as shown below.

Last week we made 3 adjustments to matchmaking:
 
1. Tighten tolerable MMR limits for manually joining matches in the Server Browser (also tolerances used by MatchMaker).
  - Decreased from 500 to 425
2. Increased the time the MatchMaker takes to expand the MMR tolerances when you're in the MatchMaker queue.
  - It can take up to 2 minutes to get a match if your MMR is well outside any current server's MMR
  - Yes, by entering the MatchMaker queue you *will* get a match, even if you can't manually join a server via the Server Browser.  Take it as a compliment - you're amazing at this game ;)
3. Private servers now ignore MMR and are no longer included in MatchMaking
  - You will always be able to join a private server if it's public or you have the password
  - Users in the MatchMaker queue will not be put into matches on private servers


So, yeah, if the message still pops up, or not, I don't know. I don't experience that issue, I'm just going off of what the most informed person in the game has said publicly more than a few months ago, I'm sure he tested the system out first hand. So excuse me for assuming, but don't take that single issue and try to invalidate my post completely. It is still very valid, and I'll say it again.

The system takes in more variables into account than you are when you are forming a decision on which lobby you should be placed in. The ones you think are valid are not. Combine that with the expansion process which lowers standards greatly the longer you wait, and you end up with it finding a match it thinks is better than the others. The problem is the expansion, but if you take away the expansion you increase the null results of not finding a match. You can't have both, you get one or the other. Which one do you want??


On another note, looking back I think the issue is that my combined MMR with some of these lads was most likely on par or slightly higher than the average of lobbies present at the time. However, it doesn't make sense that the matchmaking system would think that placing  these low MMR players against much higher MMR players is the correct decision when there were clearly a lot more balanced matches they could of joined in the 1200-1800 range.


Can you explain your vague thoughts better? What on earth does combined MMR (2900+1250, 2900+1350, and 2900+950) have to do with anything? I don't understand and can't follow you.

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Why not have 2 brackets for lvl 1-29 and for lvl 30? I know it's not ideal solution, but I think it would be good to have at least some kind of warrant that I won't ever be put together in a match with complete newbs. And I'm sure it won't hurt the new players either, since they won't have to face the indestructible machines of doom (unless there's some douche smurfing of course...) that some of us has became.

 

Other than that, I'm definitely for no restrictions. Bad and good players should be mixed together, bad players will learn, good players can give advice. Yes, there will still be horrible matches, I think there's no ideal recipe for having a perfect balance in any online game, so just deal with it. You can still have both teams composed of bad and good players and have a fun match. Also there's not enough players to make this transition from low lvl to high lvl matches "smooth", eg. what the current system tries to do, IMHO very poorly.



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[quote name="IareDave" post="58250" timestamp="1441497543"]

[quote name="phed" post="58247" timestamp="1441496694"]

that happens to me too dave, and i'm no mlg elite pro.

stop looking for excuses for bad behavior. [/quote

If you're implying that I'm smurfing you're assumptions are wrong. And if you think smurfing is bad behavior you clearly don't know what it feels like to want to play the game you enjoy but can't from poor coding(matchmaking).

I haven't pubbed Hawken for months until last night and was simply posting my results and it gave me a flashback as to why I quit the game many months ago when this system was in place(prior to Josh changing things up, temporarily).[/quote]

Try doing as much drugs as some of THC's members before pubbing. It'll prevent you from disturbing the entire MMR system and you'll still have fun.

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According to Josh the matchmaker always places a player into a match as shown below.


So, yeah, if the message still pops up, or not, I don't know. I don't experience that issue, I'm just going off of what the most informed person in the game has said publicly more than a few months ago, I'm sure he tested the system out first hand. So excuse me for assuming, but don't take that single issue and try to invalidate my post completely. It is still very valid, and I'll say it again.

The system takes in more variables into account than you are when you are forming a decision on which lobby you should be placed in. The ones you think are valid are not. Combine that with the expansion process which lowers standards greatly the longer you wait, and you end up with it finding a match it thinks is better than the others. The problem is the expansion, but if you take away the expansion you increase the null results of not finding a match. You can't have both, you get one or the other. Which one do you want??



Can you explain your vague thoughts better? What on earth does combined MMR (2900+1250, 2900+1350, and 2900+950) have to do with anything? I don't understand and can't follow you.

Our combined mmr had a higher average rating than the other lobbies present. Perhaps I should of replaced my inital 'combined' with average, but If you had the mental capacity to read further into my post it would of been fairly easy to comprehend what I was getting at.

Anyways, I've brought up this issue time & time again in hopes of bringing light to the issue and I have in the past offered my own suggestions as to how to fix this because quite frankly it's not a complicated issue with a ton of variables and fixing this will improve the gameplay experience of the top mmr minority and directly reduce smurfing presence which should ease lower level players into the game at a comfortable pace for their ability.

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Our combined mmr had a higher average rating than the other lobbies present. Perhaps I should of replaced my inital 'combined' with average, but If you had the mental capacity to read further into my post it would of been fairly easy to comprehend what I was getting at.


Hah, gotta pull out the insults when you are asked to clarify your statements, classic.   :rolleyes: 
 

Anyways, I've brought up this issue time & time again in hopes of bringing light to the issue and I have in the past offered my own suggestions as to how to fix this because quite frankly it's not a complicated issue with a ton of variables and fixing this will improve the gameplay experience of the top mmr minority and directly reduce smurfing presence which should ease lower level players into the game at a comfortable pace for their ability.


Its funny how you think this tiny issue that affects roughly 1% of the population is going to majorly improve everyone's gameplay. Thats laughable.
 


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Hah, gotta pull out the insults when you are asked to clarify your statements, classic.   :rolleyes: 
 


Its funny how you think this tiny issue that affects roughly 1% of the population is going to majorly improve everyone's gameplay. Thats laughable.
 

 

If you weren't such a smarmy child, you probably wouldn't be insulted quite so much.



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If you weren't such a smarmy child, you probably wouldn't be insulted quite so much.

 

TIL asking someone to clarify their statements when they used some wonky term incorrectly is smarmy.


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Alright, let's take a look at your first phrase:

 

Its pretty easy to understand, what you and everyone else think is a "viable lobby" isn't according to the matchmaker algorithm, its as simple as that.

 

"It's pretty easy to understand . . ."  which implies that his supposed failure to understand results from some deficiency on his part.  Dave's retort simply followed your example.  In fact, it's the exact same insult.  Dave just spelled it out more directly: he stated the mental capacity component whereas you simply alluded to it.

 

 but If you had the mental capacity to read further into my post it would of been fairly easy to comprehend what I was getting at.

 

 

This is pretty simple stuff.  People aren't "picking on you" or "insulting you" out of the blue.  They're doing so in response to your posting style.


Edited by Nept: Ultra Lord of the God-Kings, 05 September 2015 - 08:22 PM.

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Alright, let's take a look at your first phrase:

 

 

"It's pretty easy to understand . . ."  which implies that his supposed failure to understand results from some deficiency on his part.  Dave's retort simply followed your example.  In fact, it's the exact same insult.  Dave just spelled it out more directly: he brought in the mental capacity component whereas you simply alluded to it.

 

 

 

This is pretty simple stuff.  People aren't "picking on you" or "insulting you" out of the blue.  They're doing so in response to your posting style.

 

It is easy to fuzzy bunnyng understand.  If it worked the way he expected it too, then it wouldn't of placed him in the lobby it did, now would it.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to use some deductive reasoning to figure that one out.  

 

What I was trying to explain in that comment is that there are other variables in motion affecting the results, I felt I conveyed that idea effectively.

 

Thats my style, fuzzy bunnyng deal with it.  It does not infer that anyone is to be disrespected, and I don't understand how you and your frat boys cannot understand that simple fuzzy bunnyng concept.  That is the way I discuss things, that is the way I've always discussed things.  This isn't anything new, the problem is your perception of my choice of words.  So, if you were to quit reading fuzzy bunny into things that aren't meant to be, you wouldn't be insulted and you wouldn't come to the wrong conclusion about what I was alluding too.  I'm a pretty direct person, if I want to call you a fuzzy bunnyng moron, I don't have to elude and try to think up of an underhanded way to do it, I'll just fuzzy bunnyng do it outright.  Comprende?  I've said all this before.

 

Had anyone else said the things I said, it would of been a nonissue.  You choose your conclusions on your own based off your own biased inferences and your own personal hatred.  In fact you said it yourself on IRC

"[21:48] <Nept> although I certainly won't deny that I find SS particularly irritating".

That alone specifies your motive.


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You called me out for "insulting" you and yet I sense a layer of disrespect in each one of your posts and if you can't see it, then you should probably brush up on your social intelligence skills.

 

 

you show disrespect, you get it back. That's kinda how this life thing works.


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I'm a pretty direct person, if I want to call you a fuzzy bunnyng moron, I don't have to elude and try to think up of an underhanded way to do it, I'll just fuzzy bunnyng do it outright.  Comprende?  I've said all this before.

 

Had anyone else said the things I said, it would of been a nonissue.  You choose your conclusions on your own based off your own biased inferences and your own personal hatred.  In fact you said it yourself on IRC

"[21:48] <Nept> although I certainly won't deny that I find SS particularly irritating".

That alone specifies your motive.

 

Honestly, you are one of the most passive-aggressive and indirect people that I've encountered on an internet forum.  Even your gun threat against Xacius was made with a passive-aggressive smiley face.  And yeah, I find that particular attitude irritating.  However, my issues with you stem primarily from your typically terrible argumentation combined with your posting style. 

 

*Edit*

I've offered before, but if you ever wish to speak directly to me - or to my "frat boys" - you're always welcome to join our TeamSpeak.

 

*Edit 2*

May as well mention the obvious.  If I had to guess the reasons for your passive-aggression and smarm, I'd venture that it's because you like to pretend that you're adhering to the rules.  Being passive-aggresive and insulting through allusion allows you to - in your mind, anyway - follow the rules while slighting others.


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