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Now, as many of you know I tend to toe the line with the rules quite often, and the recent mod punishment has fascinated me and caused me some question and concern for the future.
 
I don't have any issues with any of the rules, I think they are rather blanketing, just the reprimand area as quoted below needs some extra attention. 
 

Accounts found to be violating these rules may:

  • Be given a warning.
  • Be given a final warning where any further violations will result in suspension from the official HAWKEN forums or account closure.
  • Be temporarily suspended from the official HAWKEN forums.
  • Be permanently closed.

 

Right now it seems as if the list is a simple OR, ie chose one to assign punishment for an infraction.  Which explains why the punished and other forumers feel the punished were never warned properly.

 

Now, on the old forums which many of the regular forum users are familiar with, the mods used to communicate albeit a one way PM with you before they handed out actual punishment. This was what I feel was "be given a warning" meant, they actually used to hand out warning points quite frequently for minor infractions. When you amassed a specified number of points, if I recall correctly it was 8 (I don't know I never had more than 1 and less than -1), they would take some sort of action at that point. Also the warning points used to die out after a specified time frame, and you could get a point and after a month or so it would magically disappear.  As long as you didn't exceed 8 warning points at one specific time, everything was fine.  Both the Moderator and the User, knew exactly where they stood.

All I'm asking for Reloaded is that you order the list into steps that get increasingly drastic as you go further down the list and start with the first step to assign any minor infractions and first time violators. Also maybe implement the 8 or 10 point warning limit system with timed expiration warning points.

  • Be given warning point(s).
  • Be temporarily suspended from the official HAWKEN forums.
  • Be given a final warning where any further violations will result in suspension from the official HAWKEN forums or account closure.
  • Be permanently closed.

 

Also another thing is you can assign as many warning points as you want if you feel the violation was deserving of it.  Say 1 for first time violators, and 4 for repeat offenders, and 8 for posting something such as NSFW material.

 

I feel had the following been implemented as it would of been handled on the old forums everyone would of been satisfied with their actions, both Moderator and User.

 

TL;DR.

 

Tiggs instead of just going all Mommy Dearest and beating us with a steel coat hanger, just give us the good ol' line "I'm going to pull over and stop this car and let you out, if you don't stop it right now."


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isn't needed the internet is now channel #NORULES


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Now, as many of you know I tend to toe the line with the rules quite often, and the recent mod punishment has fascinated me and caused me some question and concern for the future.
 
I don't have any issues with any of the rules, I think they are rather blanketing, just the reprimand area as quoted below needs some extra attention. 
 

 

Right now it seems as if the list is a simple OR, ie chose one to assign punishment for an infraction.  Which explains why the punished and other forumers feel the punished were never warned properly.

 

Now, on the old forums which many of the regular forum users are familiar with, the mods used to communicate albeit a one way PM with you before they handed out actual punishment. This was what I feel was "be given a warning" meant, they actually used to hand out warning points quite frequently for minor infractions. When you amassed a specified number of points, if I recall correctly it was 8 (I don't know I never had more than 1 and less than -1), they would take some sort of action at that point. Also the warning points used to die out after a specified time frame, and you could get a point and after a month or so it would magically disappear.  As long as you didn't exceed 8 warning points at one specific time, everything was fine.  Both the Moderator and the User, knew exactly where they stood.

All I'm asking for Reloaded is that you order the list into steps that get increasingly drastic as you go further down the list and start with the first step to assign any minor infractions and first time violators. Also maybe implement the 8 or 10 point warning limit system with timed expiration warning points.

  • Be given warning point(s).
  • Be temporarily suspended from the official HAWKEN forums.
  • Be given a final warning where any further violations will result in suspension from the official HAWKEN forums or account closure.
  • Be permanently closed.

 

Also another thing is you can assign as many warning points as you want if you feel the violation was deserving of it.  Say 1 for first time violators, and 4 for repeat offenders, and 8 for posting something such as NSFW material.

 

I feel had the following been implemented as it would of been handled on the old forums everyone would of been satisfied with their actions, both Moderator and User.

 

TL;DR.

 

Tiggs instead of just going all Mommy Dearest and beating us with a steel coat hanger, just give us the good ol' line "I'm going to pull over and stop this car and let you out, if you don't stop it right now."

 

Exactly.



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lol..


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i feel this is well worded and coherent, bravo sir. 


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Rules? What's that? Apparently nothing I should pay attention to, otherwise it would be somewhat more important than my daily poop.


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the rules here can be real-life relevant. sorta like where i live. you read the rules in the lease, that's your warning. you sign the lease. there are no second warnings. evicted tenants that have challenged it in court have lost. every last one--they agreed to those terms with no coercion.

and as i now look at it objectively, Hawken is theirs to do with as they see fit. there can be consequences, though.

due to the owners' draconian reputation vacancies have gone unfilled (2 of them for over 10 years), here--and they appear to be having financial difficulties because of it.


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Already the rules are difficult to follow and now also want change how it should be applied, "but know.... no". Is nice how work, why work!, and to don't edit why is a shock.



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Already the rules are difficult to follow and now also want change how it should be applied, "but know.... no". Is nice how work, why work!, and to don't edit why is a shock.

 

Yeah, what he said.



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Completely agree. As it stands now, suspensions or bans can be handed out with zero warning points previous. 


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