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what are the plans for Hawken as of now?   have they decided when the game will go live?   will there be a switch to unreal engine 4? 

 

will there be brand new content this year?   will there be a 2 hour single player mode to immerse the new player?

 



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The funny thing about setting deadlines, expectations, or even throwing around any kind of dates on these things: if anything happens and they miss a deadline or can't implement something, people will be grabbing pitchforks to either proclaim the end of Hawken or to take jabs at those proclaiming the end of Hawken.

 

Just look at how well saying nothing worked for ADH/meteor, they didn't say really anything and people were basically still hoping for a major update right up until (and for some after...) the great silence.  "Technical debt"... too funny.

 

Would be nice if they'd throw us something concrete, beyond being open to whatever is thrown out there.



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as far as I remember from the interviews:

content-wise there will be something happening for the mid-summer sale.

no unreal 4 engine as you cannot switch but basically have to build everything new from scratch.

no single player content as the creation is extremly timeconsuming.


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Hawken timeframe as far as we know:

2016/02/14 - Vanguard Cupcake package added to Steam
2016/04/20 - Rainbow badge gets released
2016/07/01 - Turrets get nerfed to usual damage. CapnJosh: "We've been looking at all the changes we've made last year and how it affected the balance. After careful and long testing, we decided to revert some of these changes."
2016/08/07 - Badges for PT get released
2016/10/23 - Trustworthy war veterans produce a handmade Hawken toothbrush
2016/12/12 - Dev update states that "2017 will be a great year for Hawken"
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don't want to push deadlines, but

Then don't. :P


To be serious for a moment this is just a joke

 


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Hawken timeframe as far as we know:

2016/02/14 - Vanguard Cupcake package added to Steam

 

2016/02/15 - Hell freezes over and eth0 sells his account.


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Go listen to a dev interview.



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It would be nice to have another update. Been a while since the last one.

 

*Edit* A month today, actually. Had to go look.


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no unreal 4 engine


If this is possible -> http://www.engadget....nreal-engine-4/

Why not hawken?

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Hawken timeframe as far as we know:

2016/02/14 - Vanguard Cupcake package added to Steam
2016/04/20 - Rainbow badge gets released
2016/07/01 - Turrets get nerfed to usual damage. CapnJosh: "We've been looking at all the changes we've made last year and how it affected the balance. After careful and long testing, we decided to revert some of these changes."
2016/08/07 - Badges for PT get released
2016/10/23 - Trustworthy war veterans produce a handmade Hawken toothbrush
2016/12/12 - Dev update states that "2017 will be a great year for Hawken"

 

So, is this leaving out major content release dates or is that basically all there is for 2016?



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^---<< This.  You shoulda put that "/s" at the bottom.  Folks... :rolleyes:


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are u trying to break me? we get some before, right? a color? ... a badge?... a slightly amused smile from a dev? something

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I think even the colors depend on what is left in the current version of hawken that you have installed.

So if there's nothing left, they most likely wont release an update just to get a new cosmetic out there. 

The risk of something going wrong here and having to spend hours or days in fixing it while the community is bringing out the tar and the feathers is something reloaded wont take.



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I think even the colors depend on what is left in the current version of hawken that you have installed.

So if there's nothing left, they most likely wont release an update just to get a new cosmetic out there. 

The risk of something going wrong here and having to spend hours or days in fixing it while the community is bringing out the tar and the feathers is something reloaded wont take.

 

Maybe they are avoiding any risk whatsoever, but eventually they're going to have to do SOMETHING beyond a few tweaks here and there to the existing game.  Hawken as been late-demo levels of incomplete for years.  That list of what we have to look forward to for 2016?  IMHO, it's underwhelming at best.  I know this work takes time, but how many years will people have to wait for just a new map, mech, weapon, game mode fixes, internals, etc. etc. etc.?



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I had simply enabled the existing holiday offers in the store.  There was evidence of some effort in there to *not* have any sort of permanent ones (besides, there was some mention of "OLD part A booster...", and there had been some functionality changes necessitating "new" vs "old' item definitions in some cases).  I took the safe route, to be honest, since every time I've done something more drastic, something seems to break ;)

 

I *did* get the sense that the pricing seemed a bit steep, so if there was any fuzzy bunniness, you could argue that was it.

 

Tell ya' what, keep your eyes peeled for a midsummer holiday event where we'll have all these "OLD Part..." things straightened out.  That's when we'll have more permanent item fun.

 


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2016 will be filled with disappointment, but man, phew, 2017 is going to be the year of Hawken, if it still exists. 


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I just want to be able to play on EU servers without teleporting


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shaving-my-head-expectations-vs-reality.

 

 

I think that Josh should also prepare his new communication using schweppes "what did you expect" advertisement campaign


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I think that Josh should also prepare his new communication using schweppes "what did you expect" advertisement campaign

Pepsi could be pretty promising as well..


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EU Servers:

 

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EU Servers:

 

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I kinda want to laugh but then I realize how true this is and it's not funny anymore.


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I kinda want to laugh but then I realize how true this is and it's not funny anymore.

 

I laughed at how accurate it is. Then I cried at how accurate it is. When it was all finished, I laughed again at how accurate it is.


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hawken revive what has always been a lie, a scam to squeeze money from you


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hawken revive what has always been a lie, a scam to squeeze money from you

 

With a playerbase that small Reloaded doesn't make enough money to pay for josh, tiggs and the servers.

There's no squeezing money for a profit going on at the moment.



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With a playerbase that small Reloaded doesn't make enough money to pay for josh, tiggs and the servers.

There's no squeezing money for a profit going on at the moment.

Doesn't even make enough to pay for the servers alone.


To be serious for a moment this is just a joke

 


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Does it even make money?


 

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Are there legalities preventing the dev team from communicating more often?

 

Considering how fragile Hawken's population is, I would think a dev team would want to warm up what little remains of the player base to any upcoming major changes. i.e. "Here is a new mech in the works. Here is what you can expect it to do: Weapons, ability, item, etc."

 

Because springing major changes without any prior notice or discussion among the community is one of the reasons Hawken didn't work the first time.


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Déjà vu all over again... is like this game is cursed or something.


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Are there legalities preventing the dev team from communicating more often?

 

If the devs are bound by a signed non-disclosure agreement (NDA) then they're limited by the clauses that were written into the NDA. As an example, part of the reason why Adhesive stopped talking to the community near the end of their reign was probably a result of whatever NDA they signed with potential buyers of their properties (like Reloaded with Hawken).

 

Does Reloaded currently have an NDA in place that's preventing them from talking to us now? It'd be hard to tell. If they did then it's probably because they've signed a NDA with another company, but they haven't finalized the working agreements with one another. That's a common first step for two companies when they begin exploring a working relationship before going public with the news - they draft NDAs and sign them. That helps protect all parties involved, especially in regards to investments and trading regulations and all that jazz. Once they finalize their working agreements they'll announce it publicly and the communication prohibitions are lifted.

 

Still, it's rare that a NDA would prohibit all communication from the devs to the community. Let's say Reloaded was doing a deal with Oculus - the NDA would likely prohibit Reloaded from discussing anything related to VR, but Reloded could still give us updates regarding how they're fixing a map or tweaking DPS for a weapon. Then again, if Reloaded was discussing a total takeover of all properties, then  anything related to the game might fall under NDA.

 

It's important to remember that we're just speculating wildly off of circumstantial evidence, so besides me giving a little context into the legalities of NDAs, I wouldn't read into why the devs aren't supplying a lot of updates other than they're just not communicating as much as we'd like. Even Meteor kept coming back and telling us, "They're exciting things we've got going on! We can't talk about them though, but rest assured they're coming!" Reloaded could essentially do the same if they really wanted to, even under a pretty tight NDA.


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I believe it would still be possible to say:

"Hey guys where still here, but we can't talk about whats going on sorry for that."



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had no expectations in new devs, not disappointed 






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