Bazaar is in the Missile Assault map list, so why not in Siege's? Is there a particular reason for this?
Bazaar is in the Missile Assault map list, so why not in Siege's? Is there a particular reason for this?
it used to be there. people cried a lot about it being unbalanced so it was removed. I personally always thought bazaar sg is fun.
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Bazaar is in the Missile Assault map list, so why not in Siege's? Is there a particular reason for this?
because its very one sided. on one end of the map you have open areas with a lot of cover on which to approach the aa, on the other side you have 3 choke points which are the only ways to access the aa.
Yeah, what Titanus said.
It's not as noticeable with newbies and lower skill level players, but once you get into matches with high skilled players the problem with Siege on Bazaar becomes pretty obvious. The team that has to come in from the high ground and try to get into the AA through only 2 small choke points up front (or go all the way around and try to come in from the far left or far right) doesn't stand much of a chance. Once they've lost the AA, they're prolly not gonna get it back.
That said, I still don't mind playing either side on a Bazaar Siege match cuz that's life. Sometimes you have to fight the odds and boy does it feel good when you actually win.
To be serious for a moment this is just a joke
The map can go both ways depending on who has the best team comp for the spawn they end up with. I have seen teams on both sides be ruthlessly slaughtered by an enemy team with a more synergistic team comp. Hawken has so many factors in it that will ultimately affect the end result of a match and with the case of Bazaar siege it required far too much coordination and insight to tip the balance of power between the spawn towards the downhill side that can be realistically expected of in pubs.
I've always found that the Prosk side has more of a disadvantage. If Sentium has the AA, their approaching enemies are visible from miles away, and if they have snipers it becomes a turkey shoot... The enemy mechs end up reaching the AA at half health. The fact that they lack the high ground puts them at even more of a disadvantage.
However, I can see the argument for the Sentium choke points being problematic in their own way, especially if Prosk has a few predators spamming mines. Predator wasn't even a class back in beta when Bazaar was still in the rotation.
Whatever the case, I agree that Bazaar was lopsided in a lot of bad ways and inappropriate for normal map rotation. But, you can still play it on private servers if you want to have that experience.
maybe we could have matchtype specific versions that are optimised for that mode?
the matches could even take place in completely different sections of the "area", for example, we could even have uptown siege/missile assault that is set on the outskirts of the "uptown" region (because why would you have missile silos in a living space?) with this approach.
I have a lot of ideas and would like some feedback on them:
Suggestions for fixing things:
https://community.pl...of-suggestions/
Suggestions for new things:
+1
back Bazaar siege
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Bazaar siege is fun. It's not as unbalanced as you might think.
it used to be there. people cried a lot about it being unbalanced so it was removed. I personally always thought bazaar sg is fun.
Was tough but not impossible. For pubs it was ok.
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One thing is for sure: this game has so much freaking potential. When the population increases and some engine optimization is done I think at that point the sky is the limit. I think we can all work to increase the game's player base by spreading the word and introducing friends to it. I have introduced quite a few of my own friends to it and though they might not ever become regulars in the game, they greatly enjoyed it and gave me good feedback.
Hopefully the new team will see the errors of the old and not repeat them.
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