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driedjello

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It didn't occur to me until tonight that the scout test drive is allowing our top tier players to take their favorite low tier stomping mech out into lower level matches using smurf accounts.  More craptastic game play experiences for the others.


Edited by driedjello, 06 April 2015 - 11:32 PM.

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Haha, they gave it a radar too. lmfao. 


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The AC/Extractor/x Assault with three orbs that all the new accounts have available is far more of an issue than the Scout trial, especially since the trial is built so poorly and uses Miniflak. 


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Scout plus Scanner is the beginner version. It already has a scanner equipped. But smurfs will always pwn noobs, no matter what mech. (Okey maybe not in a tech or a Pred).

 

Additionally. High tier players NEED smurf accoutns to actually play. It is so damn frustrating so see every single time "This server is out of your fitness range.". I don't care, the result is the same, let's go smurfin'!


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The AC/Extractor/x Assault with three orbs that all the new accounts have available is far more of an issue than the Scout trial, especially since the trial is built so poorly and uses Miniflak. 

 

Why is it an issue? Because they get to use the stuff that we put on each and everyone of our mechs anyway?

I don't think so. It's just the OP-ness of the orb lord build itself.

 

But that's a story for another time thread.



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I was talking about it being a more effective pubstomping build for smurfs than the current trial Scout, not new players having that loadout being an issue. 


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Additionally. High tier players NEED smurf accoutns to actually play. It is so damn frustrating so see every single time "This server is out of your fitness range.". I don't care, the result is the same, let's go smurfin'!

I'm a mere nobbhedd, but even I don't have any servers in my region to play on!

Spoiler

 

I mean sure, the servers are mostly filled here in EU..

Thing is I can't play on any of the non-empty ones.

If the playerbase is going to be increasing, I think EU needs more servers lol.



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I play in mostly mid tier matches, 1700-1800 MMR (that's middle tier right?), and I haven't really noticed any problems. Scouts or Assaults for that matter. 


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Not sure if serious.

Its not like this is the first time scout has been offered on test drive.

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Due to the test drive, I find servers full of preds to be far more of a nuisance...


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Not sure if serious.

Its not like this is the first time scout has been offered on test drive.

As long as I can remember, this is the first time any mechs other than Rocketeer, Bruiser, and Reaper were offered as Test Drive  :tongue:



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Due to the test drive, I find servers full of preds to be far more of a nuisance...

 

When I see a bunch of predator test drives on a server, I can feel my mmr increasing. 

 

Predator is not something you usually just hop in and start wreaking with.



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When I see a bunch of predator test drives on a server, I can feel my mmr increasing. 
 
Predator is not something you usually just hop in and start wreaking with.


Isn't that the general idea for all mecha?
You don't just jump into any old mech and suddenly become a fabrication from God...

If you do, you are either a hacker, lying, or everyone around you just sucks.

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I can just imagine it now...

 

Just seeing no one, and you use your ability and see 6 preds behind you, sneering over your robo-corpse.

 

In any case, I'm not very good at the game so I've no fear of hitting high levels.



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When I see a bunch of predator test drives on a server, I can feel my mmr increasing.

Predator is not something you usually just hop in and start wreaking with.


Maybe not for people new to the game, but smurfs do quite well with them. It's an absurdly powerful mech against a class mechs, especially when the pilot is decent. I simply hate playing DM against preds, unless I switch to pred too. And when you're in an a class and there's 6 preds it just kinda sucks.

(Actually, there's a game mode called Amber Alert where it's all preds and a scout...)

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So that is why I see preds and scouts everywhere today. I forgot test drive mechs were a thing.

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Shh, don't tell anyone... but the reason they've got the Scout and Pred as test drive mechs is to easily see which accounts are smurfs.  A newbie in a Scout or Pred is gonna get wrecked.  But a smurf in either is gonna be doing the wrecking. ;)


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To be serious for a moment this is just a joke

 


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I've been working hard at the gym, and come home dehydrated and beat-up.   I have been GETTING rekt in my testdrive scout, not wrecking face.


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Scouts, scouts everywhere...


Edited by TheFrostnessMonster, 08 April 2015 - 06:03 PM.

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Yeah, scout test drive is always a bad idea. 

 

I'm not playing as much this week after I got my pred, I'll wait for the next set of trials to max this guy out.

 

I get annoyed seeing 6 scouts on the enemy team.



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Additionally. High tier players NEED smurf accoutns to actually play. It is so damn frustrating so see every single time "This server is out of your fitness range.". I don't care, the result is the same, let's go smurfin'!

 

A sliding scale MMR that used relative ranking instead of absolute MMR would solve that. If there are so few 2400+ people on that the top 100 players online at a given time have MMRs as low as 1800, then I see no issues with taking 12 of the 100 top players and putting them into a match regardless of MMR. I would rather see a match that mixes great players with good players (say, a 2500 against a bunch of 1800-2100s) than kill the community by pubstomping.

 

I'm not great, and it took a little convincing to not quit already. Needless to say, facing an alt with only 5 battles and a 10.3 KDR nearly pushed me out the door that I'm already inclined to walk through anyways. I think fixing MM would be better than turning newcomers and those of only modest skill away from the game entirely while also spreading bad PR.

 

It's sad that elite players have to go to such measures to find a match, but it's even sadder that they would rather poison the wells and salt the earth by reducing the size of the player pool than just push for better MM. Or maybe Hawken masters, a small minority, could just sync their schedules better so that MM has enough high-MMR players to get servers together on their main accounts without killing Hawken for the other 90% of us and limiting Hawken's growth by stifling "word of mouth" recommendations that those who like games give.


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Shh, don't tell anyone... but the reason they've got the Scout and Pred as test drive mechs is to easily see which accounts are smurfs.  A newbie in a Scout or Pred is gonna get wrecked.  But a smurf in either is gonna be doing the wrecking. ;)

 

Quite true. I have enough hours to know what both are capable of, but the Scout's low HP and Predator's odd weaponry that is ill-suited for toe-to-toe slugging take enough getting used to that you won't see any true newbie do anything but get wiped.


Still recovering from a neurological incident, spent a couple months learning how to walk without a cane,

figured I'd try a fast-paced game to see if I could get my reflexes back to where they were.

Garage:

A - Infiltrator, Reaper, Technician, Scout

B - Assault (x2), Predator, Raider

C - Brawler, Vanguard, Incinerator





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