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[Decoy101x]

General question here. I'm buying myself another rig be it desktop or a gaming laptop.

need to know if hawken relies more on the CPU or GPU

for example i know that if youre playing WvW in guildwars 2, you can have the best GPU in the world but if its backed by a meh CPU, you'll get fuzzy bunny FPS.

thanks!

[AUTOAL]

my CPU can boil water when i play hawken.
GPU_ my graph card is a little bit warmer than room temperature.(well my videos setting is low because i think hawken's environment effect block the view. i can see enemies easier in low setting.)
my graph card is GTX560TI, but i still have low fps in med or higher setting. i dont know why.
oh by the way, my cpu is I5 2.8Ghz, 8G memory

[Hilljack]

I average 25-30fps with a $40 Nvidia GT620 (not a gaming card!)


Windows 7 64bit
i5 3450 3.1GHz
8 GB DDR3

[WAVER]

U should combine CPU and GPU. Take desktop as it is 50% cheaper than same laptop config. I have Phenom 2 x6 and Msi twin frozer geforce 560n TI and it works on ultra with no problem (and the particles on). Fast i/o hd is also important. Not to mention RAM (I got 8 gb 1333 mhz).
AUTOAL - thats strange which OS u have_

[WAVER]

AUTOAL, on February 18 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

...(well my videos setting is low because i think hawken's environment effect block the view. i can see enemies easier in low setting...)

I used to decrease resolution both in  Q3A , UT, Fear Combat. That was a mandatory setting in Q3A clan in hand with large Fov. THe bigger the enemy....

[AUTOAL]

WAVER, on February 18 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

U should combine CPU and GPU. Take desktop as it is 50% cheaper than same laptop config. I have Phenom 2 x6 and Msi twin frozer geforce 560n TI and it works on ultra with no problem (and the particles on). Fast i/o hd is also important. Not to mention RAM (I got 8 gb 1333 mhz).
AUTOAL - thats strange which OS u have_

so sorry mate, i am not english speaker (plz forgive my bad language). what do you mean OS_ my windows7_
my windows side is 1920*1080 because i have a 27inch screen. should i set 1280*720_
my graph card is good to run crysis2.but run hawken still have lag especially zoom and get hit or see smoke.

[WAVER]

It`s all good mate. Im also not a translator. I wonder coz u got good graphics card, with a great cpu i5, ram is also good. Open Nvidia panel and set all settings to default on Hawken. Try to decrease resolution. Which manufacturer u got for graphics_

[AUTOAL]

WAVER, on February 18 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

It`s all good mate. Im also not a translator. I wonder coz u got good graphics card, with a great cpu i5, ram is also good. Open Nvidia panel and set all settings to default on Hawken. Try to decrease resolution. Which manufacturer u got for graphics_

ZOTAC GTX 560TI 2GB
stat fps is around 100, in 6vs6 game is about 60 fps but feel like low quantity GIF.......
CPU is always above 85 centigrade. before i cleaned cpu dust and changed cpu cooler paste, i often have blue screen or over heat shut down

[Martock]

AUTOAL, on February 18 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

WAVER, on February 18 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

It`s all good mate. Im also not a translator. I wonder coz u got good graphics card, with a great cpu i5, ram is also good. Open Nvidia panel and set all settings to default on Hawken. Try to decrease resolution. Which manufacturer u got for graphics_

ZOTAC GTX 560TI 2GB
stat fps is around 100, in 6vs6 game is about 60 fps but feel like low quantity GIF.......
CPU is always above 85 centigrade. before i cleaned cpu dust and changed cpu cooler paste, i often have blue screen or over heat shut down

Do NOT get a Zotac. Dear god.....Why not just ask him to pour Gasoline on his rig and set it on fire.  From the sounds of it, some of you guys need to invest in some cooling.  My EVGA GTX560 SC averages about 50-60 FPS, and never gets about 72c, And to top it off my beat up old CPU is just an old Pentium Dualcore @ 2.5ghz (Badly in need of an upgrade, I know).

Bottom line, for optimal gaming balance it out. The average simple gamer won't need more than a high end i5 for current gaming. Should even be good for the couple of years.  I suggest a good i5, and a gtx 560, preferably EVGA. Gigabyte is slightly cheaper as a rule but also leaps and bounds ahead of a zotac.

[Martock]

AUTOAL, on February 18 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

my CPU can boil water when i play hawken.
GPU_ my graph card is a little bit warmer than room temperature.(well my videos setting is low because i think hawken's environment effect block the view. i can see enemies easier in low setting.)
my graph card is GTX560TI, but i still have low fps in med or higher setting. i dont know why.
oh by the way, my cpu is I5 2.8Ghz, 8G memory

What is your PSU wattage_ Also, make sure to set your power options as follows:

[machmanx]

Martock, on February 19 2013 - 06:31 AM, said:

Do NOT get a Zotac. Dear god.....Why not just ask him to pour Gasoline on his rig and set it on fire.  From the sounds of it, some of you guys need to invest in some cooling.  My EVGA GTX560 SC averages about 50-60 FPS, and never gets about 72c, .

Seriously, don't post fuzzy bunny like pouring gasoline and stuff.  Are you trying to help or are you posting your personal opinions_  You should consider where he lives, which is not in the US or UK, and chances are he doesn't have the vast selection of components we have.  If his Zotac works for him, then UNTIL it goes bad, he should keep on using it.

AUTOAL, the blue screen and shutdown is not good.  It means your system is overheating.  The 6v6 at 60FPS is actually good.  Better than what most people get, especially for a GTX 560 TI.  You should change your CPU heatsink to something like a Coolermaster Hyper 212...good price and universal compatibility.  Though check if your computer case has enough room for it.  Then I would recommend turning OFF Physx.  You don't need it to play the game.  It should help the FPS even more.  Finally, update your graphics driver.  Follow this quick tutorial:-


-Download 310.70 or 313.96 drivers from Geforce.com (choose beta and legacy drivers option)
-Download Driver Sweeper 3.20 (NOT Driver Fusion!)
-Install Driver Sweeper, but don't run it yet
-Uninstall Nvidia drivers from Windows Control Panel -> Add/remove programs (will require restart)
-Press F8 a few times right at the end of the BIOS screen (1st thing to show up on the screen) and choose "Safe Mode"
-Run Driver Sweeper and check "Nvidia - Display" and "Nvidia - Physx" and choose Clean (will require restart)
-Install downloaded Nvidia Drivers.  Uncheck the 3D options and Nvidia Update option (useless, will require restart)
-Done. Test the game.

Edited by machmanx, February 19 2013 - 11:00 AM.

[Decoy101x]

Well my desktop was a evga gtx 670, i7 2700k, 8 gigs ram but it has since gone to sleep with the fishes.

I have now ordered a sager np9150 from xoticpc
  i7 3630qm, amd 7970m, 8 gigs ram

I do need a mobile form because I'm going to start school soon, and even if I wasn't I'm sick of being tied to one single spot to game. I'd like to be able to go to my friends houses or even to a nice cafe and still be ae to fare stuff up in a different environment. I'm 25 and I'm at the age where I still love to game but don't want to be tied down to one single spot. If that means having to sacrifice a little performance and a little more $ then ill do it

Edited by Decoy101x, February 23 2013 - 08:33 AM.

[machmanx]

May I ask why you didn't go for an Nvidia laptop, knowing that it may have performance issues with Hawken, especially with the new Physx optimizations coming up_  Just wanna know what makes the AMD graphics laptop better.

Edit: Cancel that, there is a HUGE performance improvement with the 7970M over the default 670mx, and close to the 680m, which is $400+, where the 7970m is only $200+ .  Good deal.

Edit 2: Noticed that Sager is the only brand I saw there that has a user-upgradeable graphics card.  Is this true or did I miss something_

Edited by machmanx, February 23 2013 - 11:40 AM.

[PScribs]

machmanx, on February 23 2013 - 11:21 AM, said:

Edit 2: Noticed that Sager is the only brand I saw there that has a user-upgradeable graphics card.  Is this true or did I miss something_

Could be.  Sager/Clevo chassis models were the only ones I found when I bought mine last year.

[Decoy101x]

For th most part yeah it's user upgradeable. Lets say when the 780m comes out, I order one from sager and they send me the gpu and the cooling block for it (to my understanding)

But as long as the mxm does t change or the tpu increases it should be compatable.

As for the 7970m, it benches about the same and even beats the 680m in some games. And I don't care for physx in most games so its a non issue for me

[Spicynoodle]

Currently running an AMD FX 6300 @ 3.5Ghz, 8Gb memory, and a AMD Radeon HD 7750 XFX. I can play Hawken on full Ultra with the PhysX thingy with no frame rate hiccups. The whole setup which includes the motherboard as well, but not the case, was less than $500. I'm getting no troubles with overheating and such, so I don't think you should worry too much.

[Decoy101x]

Oh I'm not worried at all. People have benched the laptop and it's playing far cry 3 Crysis3 borderlands 2, And guild wars 2 maxed.

It's going to be able to play anything that's out now and out in the next year or two max settings

[machmanx]

Spicynoodle, on February 23 2013 - 02:17 PM, said:

Currently running an AMD FX 6300 @ 3.5Ghz, 8Gb memory, and a AMD Radeon HD 7750 XFX. I can play Hawken on full Ultra with the PhysX thingy with no frame rate hiccups. The whole setup which includes the motherboard as well, but not the case, was less than $500. I'm getting no troubles with overheating and such, so I don't think you should worry too much.

Now this surprises me.  Technically your specs shouldn't be running Hawken at Full Ultra, much less with PhysX ON and not suffer FPS issues.  So there must be something installed on the users' end machines that are making even the best systems suffer with Hawken.

[Decoy101x]

Well he didn't say his fps. Some people say 30fps and above is "perfect". Others say anything less than 45 is abysmal

[Diesel_X]

how big is hawken game in your hard drive_