17 replies to this topic

[LancerKagato]

Im brand new to this, played a few matches and kinda enjoy it. I am curious how the competitive scene is going in this game, or if there is one at all. Im an ex-Tribes Ascend comp player, and well since that game is basically dead now, at least anything team based, im looking for a new game, I have found this one surprisingly good. So is there any comp so to speak of in Hawken_

[craftydus]

yup  http://www.tpgleague.org/hwk/
preseason matches start in a week and a half

[eth0]

Community Events subforum, you'll also find the TAW tourny there.

[VocalMagic]

Someone say COMP_


Which one do ya want_

[FakeName]

craftydus, on April 10 2014 - 08:29 AM, said:

yup  http://www.tpgleague.org/hwk/
preseason matches start in a week and a half

Don't forget to mention the uncountable restriction and rules etc. ... players may change their choice

[FakeName]

VocalMagic, on April 10 2014 - 09:43 AM, said:

Someone say COMP_


Which one do ya want_

I take the ... umbrella and ... argh, Ima take the second one too. because G2-Umbrella are OP. 100% Front protection with 0% heating. (May not be usable for dealing any kind of damage).

[ASneakyFox]

can someone explain why the picture is funny

[craftydus]

FakeName, on April 10 2014 - 11:03 AM, said:

craftydus, on April 10 2014 - 08:29 AM, said:

yup  http://www.tpgleague.org/hwk/
preseason matches start in a week and a half

Don't forget to mention the uncountable restriction and rules etc. ... players may change their choice

If he's played competitive tribes, this isn't his first rodeo.
It might seem like a lot if you've only ever played games in pubs.
But it's actually straightforward and necessary to the function of organized play.
http://www.tpgleague.org/hwk/rules/

[AWXthrones]

ASneakyFox, on April 10 2014 - 12:05 PM, said:

can someone explain why the picture is funny

If I remember correctly, those things in the picture (called COMP's..._) are from SMT..._

[Xacius]

FakeName, on April 10 2014 - 11:03 AM, said:

craftydus, on April 10 2014 - 08:29 AM, said:

yup  http://www.tpgleague.org/hwk/
preseason matches start in a week and a half

Don't forget to mention the uncountable restriction and rules etc. ... players may change their choice

The rules in place are based on months upon months of experience in organized matches. To be honest, they're really not that bad. No portable scanner, because its a fuzzy bunny map hack, and no more than one of each class for balance/stacking prevention.  Imagine 5 rocketeers on Bunker, or 5 Sharpshooters on Bazaar.   Yeah, nothing more needs to be said.

[VocalMagic]

AWXthrones, on April 10 2014 - 01:47 PM, said:

ASneakyFox, on April 10 2014 - 12:05 PM, said:

can someone explain why the picture is funny

If I remember correctly, those things in the picture (called COMP's..._) are from SMT..._

Correct.

[Deaod]

Xacius, on April 10 2014 - 02:34 PM, said:

The rules in place are based on months upon months of experience in organized matches. To be honest, they're really not that bad. No portable scanner, because its a fuzzy bunny map hack, and no more than one of each class for balance/stacking prevention.  Imagine 5 rocketeers on Bunker, or 5 Sharpshooters on Bazaar.   Yeah, nothing more needs to be said.

Except that experience may very well be heavily skewed because of preconceived notions and a lot of confirmation bias. Why not let the community decide after the official matches have been going on for a while, instead of dictating the restrictions_

[Xacius]

Deaod, on April 10 2014 - 07:18 PM, said:

Xacius, on April 10 2014 - 02:34 PM, said:

The rules in place are based on months upon months of experience in organized matches. To be honest, they're really not that bad. No portable scanner, because its a fuzzy bunny map hack, and no more than one of each class for balance/stacking prevention.  Imagine 5 rocketeers on Bunker, or 5 Sharpshooters on Bazaar.   Yeah, nothing more needs to be said.

Except that experience may very well be heavily skewed because of preconceived notions and a lot of confirmation bias. Why not let the community decide after the official matches have been going on for a while, instead of dictating the restrictions_

Scrims have already been going for a while.  We've been playing in organized matches since before the party system was implemented.  That's the thing, it's been tested.  

Even now, we can confirm that class restrictions are completely necessary.  Observe the following game of 3 Grens, 1 Incinerator, and 2 techs on Uptown.



In the first 45 seconds, you can see why class restrictions are entirely necessary, lol. The maps simply aren't balanced to prevent class-stacking.  If we removed restrictions during the Pre-season, it'd just be a clusterfuck.

I might remove the class restrictions during the pre-season to demonstrate why they're necessary for organized play.  It's going to be stupid, lol.

Edited by Xacius, April 11 2014 - 01:30 PM.

[Deaod]

I don't think the testing is useful at all for the wider community. There are too many variables to consider. Also, having to play a deathmatch game mode really changes the way people play the game, and i don't think it's for the better.

So here are my suggestions:
- Play an objective oriented game mode.
- Remove all restrictions.

Here's how you fix things:
1.) Wait until a meta has settled.
2.) Wait until Adhesive's changes change the meta.

If the meta is broken (e.g. there is a monoculture of setups used by teams within the league), find the smallest change that can possibly better the meta, do that, then wait. Please involve the community and Adhesive in this.

[eth0]

Xacius, on April 11 2014 - 01:28 PM, said:

I might remove the class restrictions during the pre-season to demonstrate why they're necessary for organized play.  It's going to be stupid, lol.

[LancerKagato]

thanks for the assistance guys, im going to look into the league website, any weird fuzzy bunny that may be made rules wise wont be an issue, i had to deal with it in Tribes comp

[craftydus]

LancerKagato, on April 11 2014 - 06:38 PM, said:

thanks for the assistance guys, im going to look into the league website, any weird fuzzy bunny that may be made rules wise wont be an issue, i had to deal with it in Tribes comp

this guy gets it

[PoopSlinger]

There is a season 2 of competition in this game and there are now 2 weekly pick up game events.  Too bad its the same ~50 of us in all of them.