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[SatelliteJack]

Yeah, horrible title, I know. >: P

But, onto the topic at hand! I actually really liked the Grenadier's turret. The recent ability change seems kinda odd. It made sense when you could park on a ridge somewhere, drop your wings, and have a good ol' time raining explosives on all who dared to pass, while still being a big (relative) softy. Now, while you still get your extra damage, and get to keep your mobility, you lose that defensive power. What do you folks think_ Do you like the turret, or the damage boost_ Why do you think it got changed_ Any input is appreciated.

[Leonhardt]

It was changed because the turret mode was not useful in enough situations to make its ability usage as consistent as those of other classes that were not limited in mobility, turn rate and given a weak spot due to their special ability.

The new ability has made the Grenadier very strong and versatile. Its far better than the old turret mode ability.

[Zdragow]

Late thread is late.

I definitely like the change. I find myself using the new ability immensely more than I did turret mode.

[Silverfire]

I main Grenadier. I absolutely love it because now I don't have the bonus to my ability attached to a death sentence.  

Before hand, it was more of a real gamble because many times, I'd hunker down into Turret mode, ready to lay down tons of explosive fire, but the enemy had either escaped or got really close to me.  Due to the limited mobility, I had a really tough time defeating people in turret mode.  It wasn't impossible, but it sure as hell wasn't rewarding to have the true value of my ability tied to a mostly useless mode.

Now, I can rain explosives on everybody without the hindrance of my mobility, which is the key to survival in this game.

Edited by Silverfire, May 14 2014 - 05:10 PM.

[ShadowWarg]

Leonhardt, on May 14 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:

It was changed because the turret mode was not useful in enough situations to make its ability usage as consistent as those of other classes that were not limited in mobility, turn rate and given a weak spot due to their special ability.

The new ability has made the Grenadier very strong and versatile. Its far better than the old turret mode ability.

Hush your face. I actually liked the ridiculous damage % boost the gen's turret mode offered.

Besides the gren's new ability doesn't have a special animation like the raider G2 or the incinerator. That makes its automatically lame

[KilleR_OrigiNs]

I like how much more difficult they are to kill.

I mean, no offense, I don't like the thing myself. Too bulky and slow. I avoid most C classes due to that.

However, having an added difficulty of killing a grenadier is still a benefit. I don't like dominating people because they're mech is weak, I like dominating people because they just can't beat me (Not implying they're weak, just that I like to be ahead in skill... I sound fat headed now.)

My point is, I haven't faced many grenadiers in combat since the change (comp reasons), but the few rounds I have played, have been fantastically more involved, but let it be known I still hate technicians. (Especially with that stupid new weapon of theirs.)

Edit:

Okay, so I fought one.

I don't like it. It's mean, and it's angry, and I can't take it down in a stand up fight anymore.

P.S. That title though...

Edited by KilleR_OrigiNs, May 14 2014 - 08:02 PM.

[Silverfire]

From a utility standpoint, I like the new Gren ability.

From an aesthetic standpoint, I loved turret mode Gren.

[SatelliteJack]

Zdragow, on May 14 2014 - 04:49 PM, said:

Late thread is late.

I definitely like the change. I find myself using the new ability immensely more than I did turret mode.

Indeed, I am a little slow on the draw, but I was on the can, and the thought just popped into my mind. Thought I'd share.

[Zdragow]

SatelliteJack, on May 14 2014 - 06:39 PM, said:

but I was on the can

That is the best time for thought making. I cannot fault you. The can works in many mysterious ways.

[SoldierHobbes11]

I do miss the turret mode in some cases, but those are few and far between.  I definitely prefer the new ability. I don't have I lose my mobility for the damage boost. Plus, the Vulcan grenadier is like a fat zerker now, which is kinda fun. Plus, it makes my Fatfiltrator (heat grenadier) much more dangerous.

[Gh0stMantis]

Best pun evur.

new gren > old gren. As origins said, i have a hard time killing 'em now.

[Chocksa]

I prefer the old turret mode. On uptown in TDM my average damage output on the grenadier dropped by about 4-5K. I used to do 9-15K damage per match with an average of around 10.5K. Now I only do 6-9K with an average of around 7K. Also the amount of kills and assists dropped after the turret mode got removed. The new ability is not bad, don't get me wrong but i don't like it as much as i like the old turret mode.

[EM1O]

I rarely have time to use ability, unless in a 'pinch', and I like it better now.
HEAT Grenadier with both speedboost internals, and Failsafe is my go-to fatboy for Wreckage.
RockNRoll!

Edited by EM1O, July 15 2014 - 06:56 AM.

[Moreapples]

Vulcan Gren is pure DRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[SatelliteJack]

Man, I forgot this thread even exists.. xD

[craftydus]

I like the Gren-a-Weird, because it's weird

[DaPheel]

I luuuuurve the ability now. Turret mode was a liabilty.

And you can still do the turret mode transformation stomp on the victory carousel, and every C class pilot knows this is the most important part of using turret mode.

[EM1O]

DaPheel, on July 15 2014 - 02:45 PM, said:

And you can still do the turret mode transformation stomp on the victory carousel, and every C class pilot knows this is the most important part of using turret mode.

It's refreshing that the player base fully comprehends the reasons the devs include visual morsels such as this for us...ones that can also be useful on the battlefield as well! How brilliantly creative!

Edited by EM1O, July 15 2014 - 03:06 PM.