15 replies to this topic

[Source_Mystic]

I have been  playing a wide varity of mechs  now I 'd like to play heat scout. Any heat scout vets out there that would be willing to give me some pointers.

[TwentyFirstPilot]

Have you searched the stickies_ I've seen a few around.

[Silverfire]

https://community.pl...ll-mech-guides/

Check some out here, list hasn't been updated for a little while, I've been busy, but still all relevant.

[Agile]

1. heat scout for starters = shoot at foot (not your own!)

2. heat scout for more advanced = lead your shots and direct hit

when in doubt -> see 1

Edited by Agile, October 23 2014 - 04:36 AM.

[Source_Mystic]

seems eoc and heat cannon have some similaritys  When aiming then.

[JeffMagnum]

I can record some gameplay of me using HEAT Scout if you think that'd help you at all.

Edited by JeffMagnum, October 25 2014 - 12:54 AM.

[Browno]

that would be great JeffMagnum for other players as well

[JeffMagnum]

I had to record it on an alternate account of mine because this one's MMR was too high to join anything even through quickmatch, but here it is. The quality is also way better than my previous videos.

[Agile]

Nice that you took the time and wanted to spend the effort to make a video, too bad you used (or even have) an alternate account for that. You just messed up these peoples match... We should cater to the new people rather then stomp them, we need them in the future.

[IareDave]

 Agile, on October 25 2014 - 11:28 AM, said:

Nice that you took the time and wanted to spend the effort to make a video, too bad you used (or even have) an alternate account for that. You just messed up these peoples match... We should cater to the new people rather then stomp them, we need them in the future.

Your blame should be cast onto the devs who created a matchmaking system that fails when you exceed 2600-2700mmr. Back to OP: Charged shots for long range, targets in the air, or whenever the situation arises where you need to utilize the charged shots larger AoE. Similar to the tow, the heat requires you too lead your shots when faced with moving mechs. The speed is slightly slower than the tow. Also, aim for the ground beneath the target you wish to hit or around its legs as this maximizes your chance to hit.

solid clip Jeff +1

[IareDave]

 Agile, on October 25 2014 - 11:28 AM, said:

Nice that you took the time and wanted to spend the effort to make a video, too bad you used (or even have) an alternate account for that. You just messed up these peoples match... We should cater to the new people rather then stomp them, we need them in the future.

Your blame should be cast onto the devs who created a matchmaking system that fails when you exceed 2600-2700mmr. Back to OP: Charged shots for long range, targets in the air, or whenever the situation arises where you need to utilize the charged shots larger AoE. Similar to the tow, the heat requires you too lead your shots when faced with moving mechs. The speed is slightly slower than the tow. Also, aim for the ground beneath the target you wish to hit or around its legs as this maximizes your chance to hit.

solid clip Jeff +1

[JeffMagnum]

Agile, on October 25 2014 - 11:28 AM, said:

Nice that you took the time and wanted to spend the effort to make a video, too bad you used (or even have) an alternate account for that. You just messed up these peoples match... We should cater to the new people rather then stomp them, we need them in the future.

It's no more capable of stomping new players than this one since its MMR was 2450-2500 the last time I checked. Even with matches that have players I'm supposed to play against in them, sometimes I'm unable to join if there are lower-MMR players mixed in bringing the server average to maybe 1900 to the low 2000s. That 200-250 point difference from this account matters there, but it's hardly enough to allow me to play new players constantly. Also, all of the players in there were level 30 (and the two I fought for most of the video were both above 2100 MMR) and were good sports about it, plus I can't imagine Tsu minded considering he played another few 1v1 rounds with me after that one.

Now that that's cleared up and I added the info to the video description, anyone is free to add it to their (HEAT) Scout guide if they want to. I hadn't slept for two days when I recorded it so parts are kinda sloppy, but it's still decent overall. I was considering asking Dave/comic/hestoned to do a 1v1 HEAT Scout match for the footage, but I feel like using the mech against multiple decent people in a normal setting is better for this purpose than the drawn-out hiding/kiting/orb eating fests that are high-level HEAT Scout duels.

Edited by JeffMagnum, October 26 2014 - 12:03 AM.

[m0bieduck]

 JeffMagnum, on October 25 2014 - 08:14 PM, said:

 Agile, on October 25 2014 - 11:28 AM, said:

Nice that you took the time and wanted to spend the effort to make a video, too bad you used (or even have) an alternate account for that. You just messed up these peoples match... We should cater to the new people rather then stomp them, we need them in the future.

It's no more capable of stomping new players than this one since its MMR was 2450-2500 the last time I checked. Even with matches that have players I'm supposed to play against in them, sometimes I'm unable to join if there are lower-MMR players mixed in bringing the server average to maybe 1900 to the low 2000s. That 200-250 point difference from this account matters there, but it's hardly enough to allow me to play new players constantly. Also, all of the players in there were level 30 (and the two I fought for most of the video were both above 2100 MMR) and were good sports about it, plus I can't imagine Tsu minded considering he played another few 1v1 rounds with me after that one.

Now that that's cleared up and I added the info to the video description, anyone is free to add it to their (HEAT) Scout guide if they want to. I hadn't slept for two days when I recorded it so parts are kinda sloppy, but it's still decent overall. I was considering asking Dave/comic/hestoned to do a 1v1 HEAT Scout match for the footage, but I feel like using the mech against multiple decent people in a normal setting is better for this purpose than the drawn-out hiding/kiting/orb eating fests that are high-level HEAT Scout duels.

Consider asking the very whatever guy too, he's good but I forgot his name . Also, why are you so gud at as and what's your you tube

[Source_Mystic]

Agile, on October 25 2014 - 11:28 AM, said:

Nice that you took the time and wanted to spend the effort to make a video, too bad you used (or even have) an alternate account for that. You just messed up these peoples match... We should cater to the new people rather then stomp them, we need them in the future.

  

Thanks for the videob but mObieduck is right about stomping new players you could have just played agaist bots or a normal game on your real acount.  This game needs more players and alot of people try hawken and get stomped and just do not come back. everyone should do everything you can to welcome new players and give them advice so they will become part of the commuinty. personaly when my team starts death balling  I choose a mech  I am not good with just to give the other team a better chance.

The heat scout and eoc pred play in a very similar way exect scout is faster. I 'll be fine ... just have to get used to the heat cannons projetile speed.

[Source_Mystic]

Never said the matchmaking system was not to blame for smuf acounts ..... all I s aid is that it could alinate newer players.
but we are getting off topic tips for heat scout.

Edited by Source_Mystic, October 29 2014 - 04:49 PM.

[Browno]

Players with 2k+ mmr is not new players and will probably not leave hawken for good after getting stomped by a higher ranked player.