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[AsianJoyKiller]

I feel that having the Vulcan on the Assault isn't the best mix for balance.

Being a B-class, the Assault has a decent mix of survivability and mobility. It also has the wonderful TOW launcher and the ability to negate overheating. The combination of all this can be overwhelming.
You see, I don't think that the Vulcan does too much damage or anything, but that it's synergizes with Assault far too well.

On the Brawler, it's well balanced because the C-classes lack of mobility makes it avoidable if you play it smart, but on the B-class, unless you're an A-class fully specced for mobility, an Assault can keep you in effective range with a fair amount of ease.

If a B-class with a Vulcan had the Hellfire Launcher as a secondary, I believe it would balance out better. In comparison to the TOW, the Hellfires have less utility and are more difficult to use effectively. It makes for a better counterpart since Vulcan is quite easy to use.

Then there's the Coolant ability. Heat management is a major part in balancing the Vulcan, possibly more so than any other weapon. Its sustained DPS can be incredible, and when you remove the need to let it cooldown, it becomes a problem. If you've got decent tracking, it means you can easily put out massive damage on multiple enemies. You could chew through a C-Class and then shred a B-Class for fun.



Now an alternate suggestion to removing of the Vulcan from Assault.

It's not so much that a Vulcan Assault is overpowered, as it is, there's no other mechs besides a HEAT Infiltrator (and some may argue the Sharpshooter) that has a loadout that works so well together.
Make other classes' weapon and ability loadouts synergize as well as the assault's does. The utility and killing power of a Vulcan Assault currently just seems to outclass almost every other mech and loadout. It really is just a straight upgrade.

[Deu]

I knew I should of held back on my Vulcan punch. :/

[Zeshi]

Agreed. Although mainly because i do think the vulcan is a bit op (just needs to generate more heat)

[Juodvarnis]

Totally agree.

[Timber_Wolf]

Agreed.  On the hellfire vulcan, I srem to recall a dream where that existed and was my favorite thing ever. Alas, twas just a dream.

[Saunders]

Can you take a screenshot of your assault mech with a vulcan_  There might be something wrong with our database or code - the closed beta 2 assault isn't supposed to have it.

Thx!

[AsianJoyKiller]

[ADH]Saunders, on November 09 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

Can you take a screenshot of your assault mech with a vulcan_  There might be something wrong with our database or code - the closed beta 2 assault isn't supposed to have it.

Thx!

http://youtu.be/I3oxIq8BhSQ

[Inny]

I can confirm that I too have an assault that carried over it's Point D Vulcan from CBE 1. It was even reduced a few levels due to the change of level scaling, but still had the Point D Vulcan attached as the alternative primary

[ADH]Saunders, on November 09 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

Can you take a screenshot of your assault mech with a vulcan_  

https://www.dropbox....ault Vulcan.jpg

Edited by Inny, November 11 2012 - 12:02 PM.

[c0mad0r]

YUP! I've seen at least a dozen Assaults with the Vulcan on... I had thought that they got it through some lvl 20 magic or something, but this makes more sense.

[Immie]

I just unlocked it by hitting lvl 20 in CBE2, exactly the same way I got it for Brawler, didn't seem unintended. If it is removed, it'd be nice to have something replace it, would be a shame to have absolutely no options (sharpshooter needs love).

Admittedly, Vulcan+instant cooldown is a pretty OP combo.

Edited by Immie, November 11 2012 - 04:12 PM.

[Saer]

I too have an Assault class with the Vulcan that carried over from CBE1.

[DarkPulse]

Definitely OP on Assaults due to their heat ignore ability.

Also OP on Infiltrators since it's going to be really difficult to kill them due to their mobility.

It's fine on C-Classes, though. (I think only the Brawler can get it though_)

[Dread_Lord_Pitr]

Try the Vulcan on the Berserkers, with the damage amplify ability...
See a Brawler go from full health/armor down to nothing in one long burst.
'T aint funny.

[Spiderz]

oh wow.... we thought that was legit this whole time

[RedVan]

[ADH]Saunders, on November 09 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

Can you take a screenshot of your assault mech with a vulcan_  There might be something wrong with our database or code - the closed beta 2 assault isn't supposed to have it.

Thx!

whew!  Now all we need is it toned down on class C

[DarkPulse]

RedVan, on November 12 2012 - 05:26 AM, said:

whew!  Now all we need is it toned down on class C

Not happening.

[The_Silencer]

As have said on another thread, I'd put Vulcans into Heavies and in turret mode only.

[Inny]

As stated above  

[ADH]Saunders, on November 09 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

There might be something wrong with our database or code - the closed beta 2 assault isn't supposed to have it.

, the Vulcan is not supposed to be on the assault in the first place. Topic is closed TBH.

[FluxX]

How do you even get a Vulcan_ It shows an assault in my game. I'm very confused, and my mechs bum hurts from all the bullet spray!

[Juodvarnis]

FluxX, on November 12 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

How do you even get a Vulcan_ It shows an assault in my game. I'm very confused, and my mechs bum hurts from all the bullet spray!

You can buy them at lvl 20