12 replies to this topic

[ItsThatGuy]

Something came up in the middle of a game I was playing so I hung out back at the base for a minute. Then when I got back to the game an enemy battleship just launched. Basically I just went to the top of my protected base and sniped it down. I can't confirm that I was the only one shooting at it but I know we did not have the AA. I don't really see how the other team could have countered it either. I got disconnected but the other team was clearly the better team except for the fact that I shot down 3 of their battleships in a row. It should be pretty easy for the devs to look at the sharpshooter mech and see what dps it can have and compare that to the hitpoints of the battleship and its flight time.

My gut reaction is to remove the ability to shoot down the battleship with conventional weapons. Perhaps you can shoot its guns off but you won't be able to bring it down without the AA. Also I find that the one AA location can become stagnant. Maybe more AA sites would help. Or maybe the battleship doesn't just shoot at the closest target but will be more aggressive to mechs shooting at it.


There were also some times when the battleship stopped moving, and I have no idea why that happened or if it was a bug.

[MajorAjer]

I totally agree. The shot needs to be blocked from base. I was doing the same thing you were and the other team had no choice but to try and lob grenades over the wall or try to zerg in and kill me.

[Elix]

I disagree. The battleship should be targetable. Perhaps there should be a damage reduction from shooting from within a protected area like spawn, but it should still be available.

But remember, if your entire team is just sitting back in base on sharpshooter, playing AA battery, the other team has control of the entire map, and you are now fighting a war of attrition that you will never win unless you push out of your own base and start filling up on energy to launch your own battleships.

[SirMilagres]

I like the idea of shooting the battleship with conventional weapons, it makes the game more varied from just controlling the AA.
I face several groups that just camped in their base to shot the battleship down and its not hard to counterattack it. They're usually occupied looking and shooting up, so I got some easy kills with this.

But still, its EASY to down the battleship, depending which mech your playing with (sharpshooter, looking at you). So devs need to rebalance battleship armor, OR, what I would do, is just lower the damage inflicted by some conventional weapons (like, the assault rifle is ok but, sharpshooters secondary - forgot its name - need to be rebalanced)

[hammerhead]

The battleship get progressively stronger as the match goes on so killing the battleship without controlling the AA is not a viable strategy in the late game.

[Saunders]

Between now and open beta you'll see some incremental changes to the way siege works, with a focus on reducing the matchtime of those uber long matches, and just generally making it more fun.  Post open beta we have plans to overhaul a few things that should make it uber epic and much more balanced  

Tell us what you'd like!

[ItsThatGuy]

hammerhead, on November 09 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:

The battleship get progressively stronger as the match goes on so killing the battleship without controlling the AA is not a viable strategy in the late game.

Really_ I was shooting it already pretty late in the game. All the other team needed was just one more battleship to get through.

Thanks for the reply Saunders!

[ItsThatGuy]

Elix, on November 09 2012 - 10:47 AM, said:

But remember, if your entire team is just sitting back in base on sharpshooter, playing AA battery, the other team has control of the entire map, and you are now fighting a war of attrition that you will never win unless you push out of your own base and start filling up on energy to launch your own battleships.

Yeah I agree there was no way to win this game. The other team clearly was better. But we did have the option to just prolong the game. It's more of a grief tactic than anything.

[Culex]

Well some great suggestions were already posted, but I like the idea of multiple AA's. Also, to reduce the length of matches just make conventional damage like at least 30% less than it already does.

[MajorStewie]

this may be asking for way too much but it would be cool if you could board the battleship

Edited by MajorStewie, November 09 2012 - 12:03 PM.

[Elix]

I don't think this is the right game mode for it, but a game mode where mechs can be airdropped in (while still having fixed spawns at opposite ends of the map, otherwise it's just the random spawn points of free-for-all deathmatch made more complicated) in advance locations on the map, as if coming from a dropship, could be pretty cool. Would need to be carefully measured, though, and the idea as-is right now doesn't have enough to differentiate it from just having random spawn locations.

[Immie]

[ADH]Saunders, on November 09 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

Tell us what you'd like!

• Less focus on standing still in your base slowly gunning down battleships (topic)
  
• More focus on raiding enemies and stealing resource instead of each team picking a resource point and camping out
  
• More reasons to split up/work in smaller groups instead of blob together and roll over objectives
  
• Also CTF mode

[SGRock]

[ADH]Saunders, on November 09 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

Between now and open beta you'll see some incremental changes to the way siege works, with a focus on reducing the matchtime of those uber long matches, and just generally making it more fun.  Post open beta we have plans to overhaul a few things that should make it uber epic and much more balanced  

Tell us what you'd like!

I like the uber long matches on siege......