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[Vesper]

Disclaimer: I'm really bad at Hawken right now, so real pros can scoff all they want - I don't care I also love how the game plays and feels in general - great work by Adhesive Games so far!

I just don't get the feel for Deathmatch in Hawken. You spawn, you run a bit, you get between two enemies (because the maps are only so big), you explode. It works really well in fast paced games like Quake or Unreal Tournament (I'm a big fan of UT99 to this day), but here it just makes the game... frustrating_

OTOH, I love Hawken's Team Deathmatch. This is where the differences and synergies between different machines and their equipment really shine. This is where voice comms play such a big role. This is where the fun is for me.

So, how about mixing the current TD with DM a bit and introducing MTB - Multiple Team Battles_ Just like in UT99, you could have up to X teams with Y max players per team.

3 teams - 5 players max per team
4 teams - 4 players max per team
5 teams - 3 players max per team

This way, you still would have overwhelming odds against you (10-12-12 players against you and your team), but at least you could make good use of the voice comms, you could come up with a plan, you could cooperate with others. You still have the 15 minute limit and whoever scores most kills, wins. Other game modes for MTBs would also be possible, but would require proper balancing and possibly adding stuff to maps.

[Elix]

I'd like to see more team modes, but there's no reason to actually remove deathmatch. You don't have to play in DM/TDM servers if you don't want to.

[D20Face]

More options is always better, but please don't take my DM away.

[Manoloco]

Elix, on November 14 2012 - 07:33 AM, said:

I'd like to see more team modes, but there's no reason to actually remove deathmatch. You don't have to play in DM/TDM servers if you don't want to.

I was about to post the same thing Elix is writing, how about changing the poll for just adding multiple team deathmatch_, just because you dont like deathmatch doesnt mean the rest that do should be deprived of it.

Multiple team deathmatch sounds fun if everything goes perfect, but in reality its less likely to have complete balanced teams, its very possible that it ends being a matter of who takes out the players in the weakest team faster.

Would be fun to try though, maybe a tryout in CBE3_

Edited by Manoloco, November 14 2012 - 07:44 AM.

[SGRock]

D20Face, on November 14 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:

More options is always better, but please don't take my DM away.

Logical and I support the concept of more gametypes, not less.

[Dreizehn]

I don't see why DM has to go in favour of MTB. Just add MTB, leave DM alone.

[RavenSol]

MTB would be a great addition to the game  i could see that being very popular. But solo dm  is extremely important  to this type of game i wouldn't ever say dump that one off.

[ultraChronestos]

MTBs in Battlefield 3 are super fun, I don't see why it wouldn't be fun here!

[The_Silencer]

Would be interesting and I'd say yes to its inclusion in the game. Can't see how this new mode should replace DM. Although I do prefer TDM I'll admit that I've had my big fun playing DM as well.

As the crowd is saying above.. The more options the better.

Edited by The_Silencer, November 14 2012 - 12:47 PM.

[Saer]

+1 to more game types

SGRock, on November 14 2012 - 07:43 AM, said:

D20Face, on November 14 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:

More options is always better, but please don't take my DM away.

Logical and I support the concept of more gametypes, not less.

[LoganGoesPlaces]

+1 to everything everyone said.  Please don't take away my DM.  Multiple teams on the map is a great idea and would add a whole new dynamic to the game.  I haven't personally seen this before(haven't played anything with it anyway) so I think it would be a great way to get into a new market.

[The_Silencer]

The more I think on this the more I like it.

Teamwork and DM overlapped. Many possibilities on the battlefield and very dynamic strategies/tactics.

I'd say.. go for it!

[DarkPulse]

No real reason to remove Deathmatch, though I fail to see why so many people play that... *scratches head*

I do like the idea of multiple teams. Imagine a version of Siege where there's four teams and four energy points, and all the alliance makes and breaks... do you help these guys and in turn expect them to scratch your back_ Do you fuzzy bunny them over_ Or do you pretend you're helping one side and suddenly pounce on the other..._

It'd be so psychological, it makes me giggle. The mind games I could play...!

Edited by DarkPulse, November 14 2012 - 03:36 PM.

[Saer]

DarkPulse, on November 14 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

I fail to see why so many people play that... *scratches head*

To me Deathmatch is sorta like playing 1v1 in Starcraft, its really the only way to hone your skills. It definitely makes one more aware of their surroundings, and how to use map geography to your benefit. Although there are times when you are 1v1'ing someone in DM and some random will just come in last minute and pick you both off

I love the intensity and extremely faced paced  environment in that game mode, it really keeps my palms sweaty

[Tezkat]

DarkPulse, on November 14 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

No real reason to remove Deathmatch, though I fail to see why so many people play that... *scratches head*

Deathmatch is a meat grinder. Although the strategic elements of team and objective based play are obviously absent, it's frankly the best place to train pure gameplay mechanics (weapon skills, combat mobility, map awareness, and so on).

I usually warm up with a few rounds of Deathmatch before jumping into the team modes.


But yeah, I'd love to see more game modes.

[D20Face]

Getting a 20 kill streak in pure DM is INFINITELY more satisfying than in a game with backup.

[Crimson_Corsair]

Unless the team is well coordinated, I prefer deathmatch.
Bad teams kill my K/D when I'm going all out for an objective and suddenly all my "backup" starts chasing one injured mech.

[c0mad0r]

Hurray for more team modes, Boo for the removal of DM!

Personally, I want to see Dueling mode!

[Culex]

DarkPulse, on November 14 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

No real reason to remove Deathmatch, though I fail to see why so many people play that... *scratches head*

I do like the idea of multiple teams. Imagine a version of Siege where there's four teams and four energy points, and all the alliance makes and breaks... do you help these guys and in turn expect them to scratch your back_ Do you fuzzy bunny them over_ Or do you pretend you're helping one side and suddenly pounce on the other..._

It'd be so psychological, it makes me giggle. The mind games I could play...!

This 4 way idea sounds so interesting (thats what she said).

Edit:This inspired me of another game mode which I started typing here but then decided I'll make a separate thread later so as not to deviate from this one. Carry on!

Edited by Culex, November 15 2012 - 01:32 AM.

[T5ZK]

This MTB idea reminds me Tanarus, released by Sony.