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Vulcan Nerfed too much_


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Poll: Vulcan Nerfed too much_ (77 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you think they should be buffed a little_

  1. Yes (68 votes [88.31%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 88.31%

  2. No (9 votes [11.69%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.69%

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#1 Chouzin

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Posted November 20 2012 - 10:08 PM

It sucks so much now.... I think you guys maybe nerfed it a little too much_

#2 Zeshi

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Posted November 20 2012 - 10:11 PM

Hate to say it, but yea :/ (just first impression though, need to test more)
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#3 Necro

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Posted November 20 2012 - 11:16 PM

Feel the same kinda, maybe we are just use to the op-ness tho.

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Posted November 21 2012 - 12:05 AM

Yep, nerfed way too much.  The smg is superior now (by calculating dps/accuracy/range/heat).  Vulcan has a slight damage lead over the smg ~14%; produces an obscene amount of heat, less range, but slightly more accurate.  What a shame.

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Posted November 21 2012 - 09:33 AM

when i run bruiser, the vulcan seems to do no damage at all
smg on the other hand is way better.

i feared the vulcan in cbe2, now its just....not really anything
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#6 Inny

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Posted November 21 2012 - 09:35 AM

CBE1-2
OMG Vulcan is OP Nerf!
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OMG Vulcan is UP Buff!

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#7 DarkPulse

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Posted November 21 2012 - 10:20 AM

I think the problem isn't really so much the reduced damage (down from 14 to 12), I think it's the MASSIVELY increased heat generation (increased by nearly 2/3rds!) that is making it virtually worthless.

I have a feeling a decent balance will be struck simply by returning heat to its old values.
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Posted November 21 2012 - 10:32 AM

Been playing Bruiser for the whole of CB3. I thought the Vulcan was a serviceable weapon, I could scrape past my fights and stuff with it, what's the problem_

Then I used the SMC. Yuuup.

#9 Aelieth

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Posted November 21 2012 - 10:36 AM

View PostDarkPulse, on November 21 2012 - 10:20 AM, said:

I think the problem isn't really so much the reduced damage (down from 14 to 12), I think it's the MASSIVELY increased heat generation (increased by nearly 2/3rds!) that is making it virtually worthless.

I have a feeling a decent balance will be struck simply by returning heat to its old values.

Exactly, it seems many balances done this patch were too much. Just needed slight tweaks here and there.
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Posted November 21 2012 - 03:34 PM

Was really excited to try out the bruiser. The vulcan sound just rocks :)

So I jump in a match, snuggle up nice and close to my target and prepare for ownage... what a disappointment. Terrible damage, tons of heat, sounds just great tho!

#11 Timber_Wolf

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Posted November 21 2012 - 03:38 PM

View PostDarkPulse, on November 21 2012 - 10:20 AM, said:

I think the problem isn't really so much the reduced damage (down from 14 to 12), I think it's the MASSIVELY increased heat generation (increased by nearly 2/3rds!) that is making it virtually worthless.

I have a feeling a decent balance will be struck simply by returning heat to its old values.
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#12 Snoof

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Posted November 21 2012 - 03:40 PM

oh man was i upset about the bruiser going away after alpha, loved it so much and then i saw it was back in CBT3, HELL YEA i thought, so i bought and kitted out a bruiser as my first choice, and what do ya know, Vulcan doesnt do fuzzy bunny anymore, and the Hellfires barely tickle a person in damage, before this it took me a single hellfire barrage after a rough 3 second spray from a vulcan to drop an A class, now it takes at least 2 hellfire barrages and about 10 seconds of vulcan, which is fine and gravy if you could actually fire the vulcan for 10 seconds, considering that you must halt the beast to cool off every 4 seconds, NOT AMUSED METEOR, WHY WHY WHY WHY!_!_!_!_!
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Posted November 21 2012 - 04:22 PM

I have to admit-- I was looking forward to testing the vulcan when the Bruiser came out! ...Then I tried it. And it was absolutely worthless.  It can't kill a think, doesn't really do any damage, and overheats sooooo much.  Sure, it was op before, but now it really is just.. well.. a nerf dart gun. :P
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#14 BuDeKai

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Posted November 21 2012 - 04:50 PM

this is wat happens when people over react and dont do the math on all the reasons they are getting fuzzy bunny on.

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#15 Sylhiri

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Posted November 21 2012 - 04:54 PM

Would the DPS actually be better if you included all the Heat reduction buffs from skill tree and internals_ It might actually be fine at level 20.

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#16 Chouzin

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Posted November 21 2012 - 08:33 PM

Well, according to new patch, Vulcan heat generation was reduced. Can we get some numbers on this_

#17 DarkPulse

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Posted November 21 2012 - 11:21 PM

View Postexray, on November 21 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

Was really excited to try out the bruiser. The vulcan sound just rocks :)

So I jump in a match, snuggle up nice and close to my target and prepare for ownage... what a disappointment. Terrible damage, tons of heat, sounds just great tho!
Was way better in CBE1 and CBE2, but a lot of people felt it was too strong.

Ironically, some of those people now agree the nerf to it was too close to the chin and say it should be boosted. :P
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Posted November 21 2012 - 11:35 PM

Must find balance in the weapons of the mech's. I can usually win fights with my vulcan but why should i bother trying so hard with it when SMC is that much better. The heat is what gets me typically and if it was reduced a couple seconds to OH it would be fine and dandy
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#19 BuDeKai

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Posted November 22 2012 - 10:42 AM

pretty much. the vulcan doesnt offer anything its alternatives cant provide.

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Posted November 22 2012 - 10:53 AM

Post patch it appears to be functioning the way I'd expect, but there is my issue:  The Vulcan used to be a prestige item.  When you heard it spin up on the battlefield, everyone knew you were about to be rolled.  It inspired terror when the buzzsaw gun got broke out.  Now, eh, it's a starter weapon.




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