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Started by LaurenEmily , May 08 2015 05:33 AM

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LaurenEmily
Posted 08 May 2015 - 05:33 AM

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My personal understanding regarding computers is pretty limited, so i would like to ask the more educated people about this.

 

Here's the deal; Everytime i see live streams/gameplay videos of hawken that are in solid 60 fps, the gameplay looks extremely smooth and nice. Meanwhile i can get that same FPS in my game and the game never looks as smooth.

 

What is this all about ? I've heard suggestions about tweaking graphical settings in both Hawken and Nvidia control panel but never got any real difference other than the game looking more terrible without any change in the FPS/smoothness of it.

 

By the looks of it i really think having the game that smooth would have a positive effect on my gameplay too.

 

I can look up the specs of my computer but i don't think that should matter, apparently there should be more than enough to cover it.

 

Thank you for your time.

 


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Posted 08 May 2015 - 06:00 AM

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HHEEYYLLOO There ,i mean Emily  :tongue:

 

i usually get 100+/-  in high setting  in my GTX 570M powered laptop but when i want to record i use these settings ,other wise it impact my system .i got 70+/- FPS when i do record .Below is my custom settings ( just go C:\Users\ Pilot's name\Documents\My Games\Hawken\HawkenGame\Config\HawkenSystemSettings.inf )

replace all the stuff with these text .hope it will help u .

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted 08 May 2015 - 06:03 AM

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Have you tried turning it on and off?


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Posted 08 May 2015 - 06:23 AM

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more precisely u can use Nvidia Inspector soft for tuning a little but hey it's great soft 

 

for download it go here http://www.guru3d.co...r-download.html

 

step 1 : open it and click that config icon which is located in this pic

 

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Step 2 :  search for the game Hawken in the box which is located in pic 

 

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Step 3 :  now modify these settings and let us know is it help full for u 

 

 

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Posted 08 May 2015 - 06:37 AM

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I noticed the same exact thing for the longest time LaurenEmily

60 fps streams looked better than my 122 fps gameplay

 

Then I bought a high refreshrate (144mhz) monitor and there it was

buttery smooth

 

I finally had that butter in my game


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Posted 08 May 2015 - 06:38 AM

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Thanks Rozer i can try that and see if it changes anything. That does look a lot like the settings you have in the nvidia control panel though, is that somehow different from it ?


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Posted 08 May 2015 - 06:43 AM

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As Dustin has said, for the first time without any sort of sarcasm in months, it probably has to do with your monitor's Hz. And no, Dustin, your monitor is 144 Hz, not mHz.


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Posted 08 May 2015 - 06:53 AM

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There are 3 factors that might be involved in this.

 

1. FPS below 60

2. unstable FPS jumping (30-60-120-60-30 etc.)

3. Too many background processes.

 

 

I myself recently upgarded my rig (nVidia GTX 970) and it overloaded my damn energy supply unit. So I upgarded it as well.

However, I can say that I hadn't got any problems with my previous 560 Ti.

Additionally, Hawken's goal was to provide awesome graphics for low end computers so you should have enough power to play Hawken at 60 FPS.

 

1. FPS below 60.

 

You can check Hawken's FPS by tellign it so. Open console with F5 and write the command for dspalying your current FPS (I think it is called statfps but I am not sure though, can someone please tell me? xd)

 

If FPS are below 60 (for example on Last Eco or Prosk) there are a couple of things you can do:

 

a) Turn off PhysX (It has a MASSIVE impact)

b) Lower graphic settings (who would had this idea?)

c) Go to nVidia configuration and adjust global graphic settings (look at rozie's post)

 

2. Unstable FPS

 

This is the worst. Just like an unstable ping. It is way better to paly with constant 30 FPS instead of jumping 120-30-60-whatever.

 

Solutions:

 

a) Cap max FPS at 60/80/100 or what your rig can do (also creates less work for your GPU!)

b) nVidia configuration panel (rozie's post again)

 

3. Too many background processes.

 

Yeah, close them

How?

Open the Task Manager and look what eats the most resources.

 

a) Close them ...

 

 

As in every support request, the more information you provide, the better someone can help you. Computers are like humans, not the same at all. They all differ atleast slightly in some points.


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Posted 08 May 2015 - 07:04 AM

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Thanks Rozer i can try that and see if it changes anything. That does look a lot like the settings you have in the nvidia control panel though, is that somehow different from it ?

No ! it's same but in Advanced mode .As Dustin said may be would be ur monitor refreshrate .if i'm not wrong my monitor has the same refreshrate .


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Posted 08 May 2015 - 07:05 AM

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Snip snip.

Thanks for the detailed suggestions, i don't think there's anything i didn't try already though, so i'm guessing it's just the monitor Hz thing.

 

Just to clarify, 60 Hz is not capable of displaying 60 fps While 144 can do either 60 or 120 ? that's a shame.

 

Oh and it can't be that my computer couldn't handle it. That much i know.


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Posted 08 May 2015 - 07:09 AM

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Thanks for the detailed suggestions, i don't think there's anything i didn't try already though, so i'm guessing it's just the monitor Hz thing.

 

Just to clarify, 60 Hz is not capable of displaying 60 fps While 144 can do either 60 or 120 ? that's a shame.

 

Oh and it can't be that my computer couldn't handle it. That much i know.

 

Thing is, if you can recognize the difference of good and bad, in this case, you can recognize that the stream is better than your actual Hawken performence, then your monitor is atleast as good as you can see the stream. 

Because how else would you recognize the difference?


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Posted 08 May 2015 - 07:54 AM

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Keep in mind that youtube adds motion blur. Also, check this


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Posted 08 May 2015 - 08:27 AM

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Thanks for the detailed suggestions, i don't think there's anything i didn't try already though, so i'm guessing it's just the monitor Hz thing.

 

Just to clarify, 60 Hz is not capable of displaying 60 fps While 144 can do either 60 or 120 ? that's a shame.

 

Oh and it can't be that my computer couldn't handle it. That much i know.

 

You will notice it looks better to run the game at 120 fps than 60 fps on a 60hz monitor.

 

You will also notice it looks even better to run a 120 fps game on a 144hz monitor than a 60 hz monitor.

 

It's hard to describe, but I think you that you understand it.

You describe the smoothness of the high quality stream/video is noticeably better than your gameplay, I did too.

When I bought my benq 144 hz monitor I understood instantly that's what I was missing.

 

"get a 144 hz monitor, it will change your life" - hestoned


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Posted 08 May 2015 - 08:29 AM

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If you're certain about your rig's capabilities (and most PC gamers tend to be savy about such things), and if you've already fiddled with the Nvidia settings, then it has to be your monitor bottlenecking the presentation. 


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Posted 08 May 2015 - 12:44 PM

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I can attest to others claiming the dramatic change from 60Hz to a higher refresh rate monitor, especially for Hawken. Almost all of the gripes that many of us complain about—which originates from a 60Hz monitor—are mitigated significantly when using a 120Hz+ monitor.

 

Even so though, Hawken still has engine faults that prevent the rendering of frames in real-time, which is unfortunate. Why you see gameplay considerably smoother when viewed from an audience perspective can be explained through the processing techniques that Twitch and YouTube utilizes to hand out the presentation. Predominantly, many of the faults that are associated with lower refresh rate monitors cannot be recorded into the presentation of the video or stream, since they only affect the display and its frame buffer.


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