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Trying to join a server has always normally been difficult during off hours. But with the new patch, it seems damn near impossible. 

 

First, there's typically something like 5-8 servers with only 1 person in each of them playing Co-op TDM. Wouldn't it make sense to put them all in 1 server together? And why can't I join a Co-op TDM server beyond my fitness range? Do we really care if the bots get wrecked too hard?

 

Second, the auto-queue no longer forces you into servers beyond your fitness range. So if I try to queue, it will always put me into an empty server, even if there are no other players online able to join.

 

I can't always play Hawken during times when the population online is high. My current lifestyle doesn't allow it all the time, and I would prefer to play at other times as well.


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You're right on all counts.

 

A: If there is another open server in Co-Op Bot TDM, it shouldn't allow players to keep creating new servers - they should be playing together.  The only explanations to why a person does it intentionally are that they want to farm easy XP and HC and/or are afraid of real players - and neither is a valid excuse in my book.

 

B: Don't create a new server for just me if there are no others inside my stupid star-fitness range (which is also completely broken right now).

 

C: Who the hell wants to play with these dopey bots anyhow?  I play online multiplayer games to play online with multiple players.  Otherwise, just make it a single player game.


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The bots get harder when a high MMR player joins, usually all the people left after I joined their game because the bots got to hard for them and they only want easy mode farm.


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The bots get harder when a high MMR player joins, usually all the people left after I joined their game because the bots got to hard for them and they only want easy mode farm.

 

That's an easy fix. Use the median MMR, rather than the average MMR. That way, it will make the bots more profound in either high or low MMR, depending on the situation. So that having only one high MMR player in a mainly low MMR server wont make as much of a difference (until the higher MMR players outnumber the low MMR players). The problem is when one super high MMR player joins, then it will affect the average by a lot more than it will affect the median.


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Agreed, I wish they would fix this. I've only been able to find one or two proper TDM matches since the patch, and they were lousy with only 2-4 players. I have no idea what's going on, I could always find a proper match before the update.


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that is all I play now when I'm playing its just the fact that I cant play a full tdm match without the game freezing adless with bots tdm its manageable also dosnt help that the devs added G2 mechs so  people that only have G1 is playing with another handicap along with the potato game. even the forums are pretty dead even with all platforms included.



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Yup, same problem here.  Before patch, would eventually be able to find a few good AM matches on the east coast before starting work.  Recently been trying to give the new patch a go and literally can't even find a TDM to play.  Every one is locked outside my range, and I just end up in a server by myself or joining a co-op tdm, which isn't really my cup of tea.  



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That's an easy fix. Use the median MMR, rather than the average MMR. That way, it will make the bots more profound in either high or low MMR


Along that line, the mode is probably even more appropriate.

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So, is it our MMR that's keeping us locked out? Do we have to play a bunch of BotsTDM until our MMR goes up, then we get to play proper TDM a bit until the season resets?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh no.


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So, is it our MMR that's keeping us locked out? Do we have to play a bunch of BotsTDM until our MMR goes up, then we get to play proper TDM a bit until the season resets?

 

The opposite.  You need to lose a whole bunch of BotsTDM matches until your MMR bottoms out, then you'll be able to find proper matches.


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Case and point...

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Better perspective...

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