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[Balance] PiVoR to OP


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#1 JustJake

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Posted November 26 2012 - 01:53 AM

All this love with the PivoR Heat/GL it is to OP especially when he has higher level mechs he uses it the damage for the Class A is too high.

Even when I surprise him and he's healing he can get up and destroy me 100% of the time. We were using the same loadout tonight ([ADH]TJ was in the game and can verify): Flak cannon scout. There was nothing anyone can do.

He also went 5/0/3 with a Sharpshooter. I thought SS was supposed to be nerfed, I guess it needs more nerf guys.

Anyways i guess scout isn't op because i was using the same class as him but he still beat me every time. Please ban PiVoR because I hate losing and i really don't want to play a videogame where there are things that can kill me.

I will 100% not be playing Open Beta and i will def. be asking for a refund if PiVoR is not nerfed.

This is unacceptable that hawken can have a skill cieling in some classes that i haven't attained. please make every weapon homing AND BAN PiVoR!!!!!!!

He kills you and your dead can't even get decent xp to level anymore.  Definitely a player killer when Open Beta comes and the population will be real low as a result.

Edited by JustJake, November 26 2012 - 01:56 AM.

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#2 JustJake

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Posted November 26 2012 - 02:07 AM

[Balance] GL OP, please nerf: http://community.pla...launcher-to-op/
[Balance] Class A dogde OP, please nerf: http://community.pla...ech-is-to-fast/
[Balance] Sharpshooter still OP, please nerf: http://community.pla...100#entry103612
[Balance] Scout OP, please nerf: http://community.pla...ons/#entry97932
[Balance] Seeker OP, please nerf: http://community.pla...em-a-little-op/
[Balance] Burst damage OP, please nerf: http://community.pla...urst-firepower/

Issue:  I die when the enemy does things or uses classes

Suggestion:
  • Remove all classes other than Assault
  • Apply a stacking -3% weapon damage as a stacking debuff for each kill in a kill streak.
  • Remove sprinting and dodging from the game

I am ready to receive my Game Designer position at Adhesive Games.

Edited by JustJake, November 26 2012 - 02:11 AM.

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#3 Dreizehn

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Posted November 26 2012 - 02:49 AM

Eh, I don't think this is good enough. Might as well go all the way.

Remove weapons from Assault class. Give it the Hug ability. Replace XP with kittens.

#4 ReachH

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Posted November 26 2012 - 02:55 AM

The hardest thing for a noob to accept is that they are unfortunately, and unavoidably, unqualified to make balance suggestions.

In StarCraft it is called 'being a metal leaguer'. The derogatory term 'Scrub' is also popular, along with it's mentally impaired cousin, the 'TurboScrub'. The entry point for being able to comment on balance without being ridiculed is not even being in Diamond league (Top 20%), but being in Master league (Top 2%). Pros rarely talk about balance, they are too busy figuring out how to break the game with what they were given.

Unfortunately, this results in a successful community, a competitive tournament scene, and forums where dedication to improvement is rewarded, and complaining and bashing is weeded out :(

Suggestion:

Replace every primary in the game with 'egg rifle', and secondary to 'paint cannon'. This way everyone can level up, and everyone can be good at this game. We can have an awesome, fun and positive community called World of Hawken :D #AmnestyInternational

Also make the paint disappear after 3 seconds, so that no one will be ridiculed for being covered in more paint than the next guy.

Killing anyones mech (destruction of property), either intentionally or unintentionally with a turret, will result in an instant, built-in-client perma ban and blacklisting of their bank account details. Exp bonus if you are a racial minority player.

View Post[HWK]HUGHES, on October 23 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:

Development happens.


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#5 3Jane

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Posted November 26 2012 - 03:17 AM

Pivor is normally first to admit that some builds are overpowered (;

He likes mostly A class so its not surprising you would feel its op. He is a good player and A class is easily the strongest at the moment.. Heat/GL, Flaks/TOW + insane air skills and move speed now. :>

#6 PiVoR

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Posted November 26 2012 - 04:57 AM

Y, me so OP, nerf me plz.
Right now I only agree with Scout and Rocketeer being OP. A mech speed and maneuverability allows it to bring Flak Cannons to its full, overpowered potential all the time, its like a ninja that stabs you left and right with hot sword and you cant even touch him. Funny that we had same situation with A domination in "previous tests" and it repeats all over again.
Rocketeer with Seeker is OP, that obvious, nerf will come, it must have.

And I dont like only A mechs =)
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#7 Dreizehn

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Posted November 26 2012 - 05:00 AM

Why did I read TheGingerViking as TheGingerWang_

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Posted November 26 2012 - 08:50 AM

Infiltrator is still uncahnged too. Just everyone switiching to scout to try it.. both are way way too strong.

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Posted November 26 2012 - 08:50 AM

View PostDreizehn, on November 26 2012 - 05:00 AM, said:

Why did I read TheGingerViking as TheGingerWang_

Same.

#10 Dread_Lord_Pitr

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Posted November 26 2012 - 08:57 AM

Guys, guys, calm down, there can only be 2 explanations :

1) PiVoR has Russian blood, and is therefore OP by default.
2) PiVoR is cheating, and is Evil.

Some will probably claim it's the second one, but i stand by #1 :lol:
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. -George Orwell's Animal Farm
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#11 Dreizehn

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Posted November 26 2012 - 09:10 AM

Russian blood is inferior to Swedish blood.

#12 Sythorian

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Posted November 26 2012 - 09:15 AM

View PostDread_Lord_Pitr, on November 26 2012 - 08:57 AM, said:

Guys, guys, calm down, there can only be 2 explanations :

1) PiVoR has Russian blood, and is therefore OP by default.
2) PiVoR is cheating, and is Evil.

Some will probably claim it's the second one, but i stand by #1 :lol:

I beg to differ, I have just owned him (5 mins ago) in two consecutive games. He ragequit after the second. ;)

Edited by Sythorian, November 26 2012 - 09:16 AM.


#13 PiVoR

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Posted November 26 2012 - 09:39 AM

View PostSythorian, on November 26 2012 - 09:15 AM, said:

I beg to differ, I have just owned him (5 mins ago) in two consecutive games. He ragequit after the second. ;)

2 consecutive games_ lol, 1st one we won, 2nd i quit cause it was 3 A mechs against me alone in SS..
Seems i need to care cause killing me 3v1 makes people proud.

#14 KaszaWspraju

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Posted November 26 2012 - 09:58 AM

Writing is generally not the author of the topic.

This topic, which indicates the level of today's players are.
  • are not able to admit to themselves that there is someone better than them.
  • Topics crying as the game is unbalanced..
  • op weapons.
  • nerf this , nerf that.
  • are lazy, do not want to learn to play the game.
  • lack of self-criticism.
  • I bought this skin, I paid - I demand.
  • God forbid a little tired of playing the game.
  • in particular, to think.
Sometimes I miss CS 1.6, Q3 and BF2 times.

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Posted November 26 2012 - 10:12 AM

Edit: Comment removed. Because i was a victim of a calling out thread and even tho it might be mostly positive it is still intrusive.

Edited by h0B0, November 27 2012 - 06:48 PM.

Click me! I dare you.

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Oh don't always listen to h0B0. Lol.


#16 ReachH

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Posted November 26 2012 - 10:24 AM

One day I will have my own fan topic, where people will come to bask in my glory.

View Post[HWK]HUGHES, on October 23 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:

Development happens.


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#17 PiVoR

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Posted November 26 2012 - 10:33 AM

Just wait till open beta, then it will be MADNESS, balance whine is right so far cause we dont want Scout fest when game gets released.

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Posted November 26 2012 - 10:39 AM

View PostPiVoR, on November 26 2012 - 10:33 AM, said:

Just wait till open beta, then it will be MADNESS, balance whine is right so far cause we dont want Scout fest when game gets released.

Which server do you play_ I haven't seen many Scouts as people have been saying there are, a lot of Rocketeers though.

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#19 JustJake

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Posted November 26 2012 - 07:31 PM

View Post3Jane, on November 26 2012 - 08:50 AM, said:

Infiltrator is still uncahnged too. Just everyone switiching to scout to try it.. both are way way too strong.

i agree I believe that all the classes that aren't assault should be removed from the game

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Posted November 26 2012 - 08:09 PM

My brief experience:
SABOT ROUNDS IN MY FACE GODDAMMIT OW OW OW

I should feel honored in retrospect.

Assault - "Vae Victis" | Brawler - "Dominus" | Sharpshooter - "Memento Mori"

Bruiser - "Non Serviam" | Berserker - "Furia"

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