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[ReachH]

Okay not really, but this is interesting:
http://venturebeat.c...game-exclusive/

Best part is at the end:

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Lasky said he started looking for the Hawken team at the suggestion of his brother, who saw the game play video. But the team didn’t have a web site at the time and Lasky had to track them down via a job posting in Alhambra, where “I camped out on their doorstep.” At the time, Le was looking for publishers and “we talked him out of that,” Lasky said.

Then Lasky and Heitzmann helped recruit Long, who was previously chief executive of Zombie Games in Seattle. Long pulled together a publishing team to host the game, handle the marketing, and undertake merchandising.

As for the state of gaming, Lasky said, “This is the most chaotic period in the game industry I can remember, and chaos is good for investors and startups. This year, I don’t think there will be a galvanizing event like Zynga’s initial public offering. But there will be a series of small events that will look significant in retrospect. Social and mobile games are clearly lower risks. But if you find an extraordinary game like Hawken, you can build a defensible competitive position.”

Mitch Lasky is a partner at Benchmark Capital, one of the venture cap firms backing Meteor for Hawken. They also invested in Riot games (League of Legends).

Now I dunno about you, but to me 'build a defensible competitive position' sounds a lot like 'I want to milk this F2P btch for all its worth and then sell it to a Chinese company.' But I could just be biased.

Edited by ReachH, December 15 2012 - 05:20 AM.

[InfestedFirman]

Please, no. Is this going to be following the route of that festering casual pay2win game that is LoL. .

Edited by InfestedFirman, December 15 2012 - 04:19 AM.

[Roundlay]

Conspiracy theories can:

[Elix]

"Anti-P2W sedition" isn't against the rules, but creating drama threads is. I'm just sayin'.

[ReachH]

This is clearly a news thread. People deserve to know. If I happened to bias the news, I'm sorry - I am not a good writer or journalist, clearly. Seems like it would be a good idea to update the community values guide book so that other future forum go-ers will know not to.

[Elix]

If by "news" you mean "old news from February", yes, it's news. I'm not a mod, I'm not going to ride your fuzz. You do what you want, you just have to answer to the mods if you do something they don't like.

And, I link to the rules in the Community Values post. I'm not going to replicate it in my own.

[ReachH]

*sob*sob* I'm so sorry, I was just following your community-values guidelines. I used the search bar and everything - but I couldn't find any evidence of this in a previous topic. I'm so sorry Please forgive me, there must be something wrong with me :'(

Edited by ReachH, December 15 2012 - 04:41 AM.

[Elix]

I'm going to preface this by saying I'm not a mod, so I'm not attempting to backseat mod. I'm explaining my previous comments.

From my reading, this is a thread that's totally inviting drama. The title comes off like trollbait, and then you give a fairly... slanted interpretation of the linked article. Maybe this is UK (I would say "British" but I don't know whereabouts in the Isles you are and I know that that can be a mistake that leads to getting glassed in the pub) humour and it's just wooshing over my head. I may be looking at it entirely the wrong way, and if that's the case, I apologize and retract my comments regarding the rules.

And FUZZING THANK YOU for using the search. I can say for sure that this article hasn't been discussed recently (not that I've seen), so I definitely was not coming after you for that.

ReachH isn't being serious. I thought he was and decided it'd be better to take him at face value and risk looking a fool than to look like a total bunny.

Edited by Elix, December 15 2012 - 05:05 AM.

[Ollie]

I dunno man...seemed like an OK game until they added the monetization elements.  Those seem pretty driven by VC -- they're high even by f2p standards.

[ReachH]

Ollie, on December 15 2012 - 04:47 AM, said:

I dunno man...seemed like an OK game until they added the monetization elements.  Those seem pretty driven by VC -- they're high even by f2p standards.

Exactly. Great game throughout testing. Then when its opened to the public, it starts vomiting freemium blood.

[Badben]

well obviously they are trying to make money with this game, why wouldn't they, and why shouldn't they_ but it seems to me that they are very aware of the fact that P2W games are terrible and more often than not fail these days. it seems like they are trying to keep the game as balanced as possible, sure it may still need some work, but this is obviously a LOT better so far than many othe free 2 play games. I have paid for new mechs, and I get slammed by the free mechs all the time. So far this game is looking more like "team fortress 2" (good free to play) and less like "battlestar galactica online" (pure garbage)

[andythebomb]

If only they had gone with a normal publisher and put out Hawken as a 30-50 dollar game

Would be like a sweet mech version of counter strike with out all this grind for fuzzy bunny.

[ReachH]

andythebomb, on December 15 2012 - 05:15 AM, said:

If only they had gone with a normal publisher and put out Hawken as a 30-50 dollar game

Would be like a sweet mech version of counter strike with out all this grind for fuzzy bunny.

As sad as I am to admit it, this is true.

I supported F2P because it gave devs a better source of income, and enhanced the game through fluff like skins and such. I would have wanted to deck out my first mech with 10 pounds, but instead I have to buy mechs and consider items (which are essential). It leaves a sour taste in my mouth and sets the P2W senses tingling. And then there were countermeasures. And then there were price hikes on [game balance changing] items. And then there was prestige weapon payments. And then there was paying for overflow exp.

Now I have about 800 MP left, and literally am afraid to spend it, wondering what other essentials are suddenly pay-or-else-grind.

Edited by ReachH, December 15 2012 - 05:26 AM.

[h0B0]

I would like to point you torwards this thread.
http://community.pla...their-damn-jobs
Thread is about how forums should be less cluttered and flame topics should not be acceptable.

[Atrupos]

InfestedFirman, on December 15 2012 - 04:16 AM, said:

Please, no. Is this going to be following the route of that festering casual pay2win game that is LoL. .

You obviously don't play LoL.  Since the only thing that you can pay for and get is RP  for Champion Skins and Bundles.  You can also, NOT pay by winning matches, and building IP and unlock the champions - Which is not hard to do.  Additionally you can only get RUNES by using the NON Monetary purchased IP currency which can only be attained through matches won and lost.  

So your Pay2Win stance is, well nonsense.

[Spiderz]

this is my related input to the topic "Adhesive teams up with Meteor to sell their souls to the Devil"

[Elix]

h0B0, on December 15 2012 - 05:53 AM, said:

I would like to point you torwards this thread.
http://community.pla...their-damn-jobs
Thread is about how forums should be less cluttered and flame topics should not be acceptable.

Did you notice how ReachH started that thread and this one_

[h0B0]

Elix, on December 15 2012 - 06:22 AM, said:

h0B0, on December 15 2012 - 05:53 AM, said:

I would like to point you torwards this thread.
http://community.pla...their-damn-jobs
Thread is about how forums should be less cluttered and flame topics should not be acceptable.

Did you notice how ReachH started that thread and this one_

I did, thats why i point it out. Sadly it appears he has not noticed it.