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#1 HubbaBubba9849

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Posted January 22 2014 - 02:40 AM

This is something I've been aware of for a long time but been too lazy to make a video of. I finally decided to just sink some HC into this and get it over with.



_______________________Mk1________Mk2________Mk3____
Without Repair Kit =_______116______|__171______|__226____|

With Extractor
With Repair Kit =_________134 15.52% | 200 16.96% | 262 15.93% | 16.14% Average
With Advanced Repair Kit = 146 25.86% | 217 26.90% | 285 26.11% | 26.29% Average

Without Extractor
With Repair Kit =_________144 24.14% | 213 24.56% | 282 24.78% | 24.49% Average
With Advanced Repair Kit = 162 39.66% | 238 39.18% | 316 39.82% | 39.55% Average

Personally, I'm fine with those repair values, I just want the in-game descriptions of the repair kits to match their actual performance.

Edit: It turns out the extractor reduces the effectiveness of the repair kits. Not sure if this is intended or a bug, but I've added the numbers for repair kits without having extractor equipped.

After Steam Update:
No Repair Kit = 170
With Repair Kit = 195
   -With extractor = 191
With Adv. Repair Kit = 212
   -With Extractor = 203

Edited by HubbaBubba9849, March 10 2014 - 12:42 PM.

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Posted January 22 2014 - 03:39 AM

Your advanced repairkit mk3 is wrong from my testing, the mk1 adv is right. I haven't bothered checking others but there is most definitely a problem getting the full benefit of advanced repair kit.

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Posted January 22 2014 - 04:58 AM

I seem to remember reading the somewhere in the forums that the extractor changes the amount you get from the repair kits.

Iirc if you have just repair kits they work as advertised but if you have an extractor the numbers get thrown off.
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Posted January 22 2014 - 07:49 AM

View PostdEd101, on January 22 2014 - 04:58 AM, said:

I seem to remember reading the somewhere in the forums that the extractor changes the amount you get from the repair kits.

Iirc if you have just repair kits they work as advertised but if you have an extractor the numbers get thrown off.
I also read this ^

#5 HubbaBubba9849

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Posted January 22 2014 - 02:44 PM

View PostdEd101, on January 22 2014 - 04:58 AM, said:

I seem to remember reading the somewhere in the forums that the extractor changes the amount you get from the repair kits.

Iirc if you have just repair kits they work as advertised but if you have an extractor the numbers get thrown off.

Ok, I'll have to go test that then.
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#6 HubbaBubba9849

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Posted January 22 2014 - 07:58 PM

Well I wouldn't have thought it, but it turns out it's true that the extractor reduces the effectiveness of repair kits. I've added the new numbers to my original post.
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Posted January 29 2014 - 05:11 PM

View PostHubbaBubba9849, on January 22 2014 - 07:58 PM, said:

Well I wouldn't have thought it, but it turns out it's true that the extractor reduces the effectiveness of repair kits. I've added the new numbers to my original post.

That definitely doesn't make it less effective in combination, lots of health really fast never bothered anyone.

edit: on siege it's combination is WAY less effective.

Edited by LoC_TR, January 29 2014 - 05:16 PM.

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#8 Hell_Diguner

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Posted February 23 2014 - 10:18 PM

There should still be an in-game disclaimer (or fix the bug it it is indeed a bug) that the extractor reduces the total received health from repair orbs.

Edit: Gaah! 1 month old thread >_<

Edited by Hell_Diguner, February 23 2014 - 10:19 PM.


#9 PhasmaFelis

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Posted March 10 2014 - 11:46 AM

Is this still true in the current version_

#10 HubbaBubba9849

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Posted March 10 2014 - 12:37 PM

After Steam Update:
No Repair Kit = 170
With Repair Kit = 195
   -With extractor = 191
With Adv. Repair Kit = 212
   -With Extractor = 203
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#11 PhasmaFelis

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Posted March 12 2014 - 12:51 PM

Hm. That's an improvement, anyway. Thanks for checking.

With no repair kit, do you get the same amount (170) both with and without an extractor_

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Posted March 12 2014 - 01:34 PM

View PostPhasmaFelis, on March 12 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:

Hm. That's an improvement, anyway. Thanks for checking.

With no repair kit, do you get the same amount (170) both with and without an extractor_

Yes.




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