30 replies to this topic

[ScarletThirteen]

Is going after the worst (ie. lowest scoring/lowest MMR) pilot the best solution in TDM_ I noticed stomps tend to be more obvious when it's one or two particular pilots regularly showing up on the kill feed as dead.

[OmegaNull]

The way it should work is that you are going after people to lower their health or to take out the guys that are low. Going after the lowest common denominator does very little.


*Edit* Take out the guys with low HP if you can, if not, stay back with your team. Dying trying to get a kill is far worse than dying defending your team from additional deaths. However, if my death nets me 3 kills then so be it. Worth.

Edited by OmegaNull, July 16 2014 - 01:15 PM.

[SatelliteJack]

If you asked me, the "weakest" pilot tends to be the one with no backup. If your team stumbles upon a lone wolf, beat him so hard he turns and runs with his tail between his legs. That being said, you shouldn't go hunting for him. Going alone to fight someone who's alone because being alone is bad, seems like a bad idea.

Edited by SatelliteJack, June 06 2014 - 06:19 PM.

[Odra]

Weak = low HP_

Absolutely, helps my team focus on bigger fish.

Weak = low score_

Pfft, waste of focus.

[Rei]

If you want to win, generally yes. It tends to swing the score more your way every time. Especially K/D wise

[Duralumi]

Depends how good the weakest guys' buddies are at aiming.

If I can afford to divide my attention between a group of enemies, I'll go for one of the following:

• The Closest
  
• The Most Immediate Threat
  
• The one with the lowest HP
  
• The one whom I'm sure I can land my shots against

Every confrontation is a series of subconcious judgements involving balancing these four traits, in rapid sucession.

[spinele5s]

always attack the soft targets, and come to the aid of your teammates.

[LoC_TR]

If we're talking about TDM it really depends on which team i'm on. If I have weak teammates I usually try to keep the best person on the other team occupied, if there is more than one equally skilled player I usually have to start picking away at their weaker teammates to keep up the kill count.

[Amidatelion]

If I see a CRT acting like a noob, I will do my best not to engage unless absolutely necessary. I'll also toss out advice, especially if I killed them. Though often that doesn't really help the situation since people are sensitive.

If there's a noob on my team, I will generally try to keep my eye on them and facecheck TOWs and grenades for them, just to keep them in game and learning and hopefully staying with the game.

I don't actually enjoy stomps and generally get into my worst mech if I see one happening. Beyond that and the above though, there's not much that can be done to alleviate a stomp.

[Meraple]

I personally prefer focusing on more challenging oppponents.
It's bad for my KDR, but it's alot more fun.

[Ade_the_Rare]

lol was thinking the same thing. In Team DM the most skilled player is the one who will lose the battle or you; taking them out is always my top focus. I also:

1. Shoot anything in front of me
2. Shoot at anything shooting at me
3. Shoot anything that looks like it's about to kill a team mate

I will absolutely *not* just go after the weakest player; they're the ones who need the practice, and frankly are just as entitled to enjoy the game as anyone else. If I have a noticeably weaker player on my team I'll do what I can to support them. Playing the game longer is how you get to be better.

[FakeName]

I am surprised by the high number of votes going into "I shoot what's in front of me." ... This strongly supports my assumings that the majority of Hawken's palyers have actually no idea of how to play the game.

Saw that alot in my team (btw, in the enemy team too): Noone actually had an idea of focusing.
Instead of shooting this tech behind the vanguard, they prefare to shoot a turret mode vanguard from the front ... and obviously die.

Additionally, mechs which are able to escape with around 3% of HP are not chased by my team. (Ofcourse C-class is not efficient in that but A and B classes are.) Usually that's my job.

#BetterPlayDM

[Z3roCool007]

i go after them when i get the chance.

[Amidatelion]

FakeName, on June 06 2014 - 11:48 PM, said:

I am surprised by the high number of votes going into "I shoot what's in front of me." ... This strongly supports my assumings that the majority of Hawken's palyers have actually no idea of how to play the game.

Saw that alot in my team (btw, in the enemy team too): Noone actually had an idea of focusing.
Instead of shooting this tech behind the vanguard, they prefare to shoot a turret mode vanguard from the front ... and obviously die.

Additionally, mechs which are able to escape with around 3% of HP are not chased by my team. (Ofcourse C-class is not efficient in that but A and B classes are.) Usually that's my job.

#BetterPlayDM

That's problematic, because it's not the stated purpose of the poll and that's creating a statistical bias. Really it seems to be a joke answer.  People either don't care about the others or do not feel they more accurately reflect their in-game choices. If it were eliminated, I'm pretty sure the No, not really answer would get the rest of the results.

[Lightangel112]

It usually works well to do this in DM's I find. Especially if there are other strong contenders.

[Ikuinen_Lynx]

For Death match, sure, if he isnt in a group with tougher guys. you'll want to focus on them first. If you meneuver enough ,he wont be able to contribute anyway

[Bazookagofer]

When I played I always tended to shoot the nearest target...

[Kvalheim]

I don't exactly think to open the scoreboard to check the rankings when going after a foe in-game. Just go for Techs first if viable, then the lowest health and/or the ones with the most damage potential.

[reVelske]

I highly doubt anyone is sad enough to specifically look for and hunt down individuals for easy frag, not that it's particularly easy to do on Hawken either. If an individual acts like a practice dummy: standing still in combat and constantly out of position or overextended, then people WILL shoot at him, and they damn well should so these less combat-savvy players actually LEARN from their mistakes.

There's absolutely no reason to take pity on newbies, deaths in Hawken aren't often instant: they DO actually have the time to think, react and learn exactly what went wrong.

[mmm_yep]

I don't think you can effectively single out the weaker players to target without getting messed up by the rest of the team just as much. What I've noticed is that if I take a mental note of who I seem to reliably best and I find them off to the side somewhere in a 1v1 situation, I will aggressively attack to get the kill rather than retreat or let them scoot away.

Otherwise I usually just shoot what's in front of me, trying to make it the same thing the rest of my team is shooting at.

Edited by mmm_yep, June 09 2014 - 07:16 AM.