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[Burninator]

I'm surprised no one mentioned this yet, perhaps its simply because you are using a laptop. If I'm not mistaken don't some games have issues with laptops_ If thats not it then I don't know what the problem is, I ran the alpha without too many issues on my desktop.

Heres what I use:

Athlon II x2 250@3.0ghz
4gb ddr3 RAM @1333mgz
HD 6670 1gb DDR5
and a 500gb 7200rpm Western Digital HD

I played on a res of 1280x1024 on medium settings with a few things on high, no AA or AF and the game was playable on all of the maps.

[DS08]

Burninator, on October 28 2012 - 09:02 PM, said:

I'm surprised no one mentioned this yet, perhaps its simply because you are using a laptop. If I'm not mistaken don't some games have issues with laptops_ If thats not it then I don't know what the problem is, I ran the alpha without too many issues on my desktop.

Heres what I use:

Athlon II x2 250@3.0ghz
4gb ddr3 RAM @1333mgz
HD 6670 1gb DDR5
and a 500gb 7200rpm Western Digital HD

I played on a res of 1280x1024 on medium settings with a few things on high, no AA or AF and the game was playable on all of the maps.

I don't think that's an issue, I run this on my laptop perfectly fine.
Laptop Specs: geForce 350m 1gb dedicated 2gb total, 6gb ram, i7 multi threaded 1.7ghz/2.4 on turbo running at 1600x900res

[DS08]

btw 'TehJumpingJawa' does have a point about the power issue, I have noticed that on my laptop I have to set my power settings to "high performance" and I also have to have the laptop plugged into a power source.(such as an outlet or a portable battery) otherwise most games lag terribly.

[dCK_Warheart]

I already posted this but I wondered what you guys think about it. Really wondered about the DX9.

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Hm, I wondered about the system requirements. I meet basically all the recommended specs but the game gives me mostly around 10fps.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 @2,66Ghz
ATI Radeon HD 6850 with 1024 GDDR5
4 GB RAM

Also I get the "rage-typical" texture pop ups. Although my drivers are up to date.

Could it be that the fact my GPU is optimized for DX10-11 and not 9 is causing the poor performance_ Really asked myself why Hawken is using DX9 in the first place.

I'd appreciate some feedback.

Also I have severe framedrops here and there although they don't really follow a pattern.

Edited by dCK_Warheart, October 29 2012 - 02:16 AM.

[systema]

Korriban87, on October 28 2012 - 09:55 AM, said:

From Best to worst FPS maps
1. Sahara
2. Andromeda
3. Alley
4. Titan

FPS have improved since last update, I can confirm that (about 5-7 more or less)

Exactly

I don't know about 2 and 3 but 1 and 4 deserve that spot. Still though, graphics are sweeeeeeettt!!!

[Runaway]

Snoof, on October 28 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

your GPU is an ATI card ( need i say more_)

No idea where's that coming from at all, I have an ATI card and the game runs just fine.

[Vitriks]

Low FPS kill the gameplay. Going to wait till they fix it because there is no point to play the game with these lags.

Edited by Vitriks, October 29 2012 - 03:36 AM.

[Lithium03]

I was having issues too, but then I set the priority of hawken to real-time and now I'm playing  at 30-60 instead of 10. Everyone should try that and see if it helps.

Edited by Lithium03, October 29 2012 - 04:49 AM.

[DS08]

dCK_Warheart, on October 29 2012 - 02:13 AM, said:

I already posted this but I wondered what you guys think about it. Really wondered about the DX9.

Quote

Hm, I wondered about the system requirements. I meet basically all the recommended specs but the game gives me mostly around 10fps.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 @2,66Ghz
ATI Radeon HD 6850 with 1024 GDDR5
4 GB RAM

Also I get the "rage-typical" texture pop ups. Although my drivers are up to date.

Could it be that the fact my GPU is optimized for DX10-11 and not 9 is causing the poor performance_ Really asked myself why Hawken is using DX9 in the first place.

I'd appreciate some feedback.

Also I have severe framedrops here and there although they don't really follow a pattern.

As long as you aren't running anything else in the background and have your task manager set to have the game on high priority it should run fine, but if you don't manually set things up each time you run I would expect low framerates and crashes due to memory running out.

your proc is good, your ram is good (could be better), your GPU isn't the best but it should run on med-high graphics settings...
The issue of DX9 compared to DX10/11 shouldn't be an issue, 10 and 11 are based of 9 and below, they should be backwards compatible. try turning off effects like blur and DOF, those can be very memory hungry within the Unreal Engine.

Edited by DS08, October 29 2012 - 07:00 AM.

[DS08]

An important note that you missed, is your OS.. it completely changes how things run...

Win xp requires 256mb or ram to run (technically)
win 7 32bit requires about 2gb of ram to run properly
win 7 64bit requires about 3gb of ram to run properly

if you have more than 2gb of ram on a 32bit system, the computer will only use a max of 2.3GB of ram, even if you have 8GB installed.
if you know what everything does and want to turn off specific system background programs to make the game run better, I would. I turn off several things before I play and normally get about 5-8 frames more during gameplay...

To check your framerate ingame, open the console but hitting the ~ (tilde) key while in the menu's. Type "stat fps" and hit enter, then close the console with the ~ key again. Your framerate will be displayed in the top right corner... Menu's have much higher framerate than gameplay, so don't get too excited.

DON'T USE FRAPS OR OTHER THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS TO CHECK FRAMERATES!!!, They cause the unreal engine to lag terribly, for others engines its not as bad.

EDIT: You can also try changing your compatibility settings to turn off visual themes.

Edited by DS08, October 29 2012 - 07:01 AM.

[DS08]

dCK_Warheart, on October 29 2012 - 02:13 AM, said:

Could it be that the fact my GPU is optimized for DX10-11 and not 9 is causing the poor performance_ Really asked myself why Hawken is using DX9 in the first place.

Sorry for another post, but to answer your question on why Hawken is using DX9. Hawken is using the Unreal Engine, (same engine that gears of war used). To be specific, its UT3.. its a 5 year old engine, DX9 is what they had back then. UT4 comes out in December.

[PtblDuffy]

Win7 x64

Core i7-3770K @ 3.50GHz
4 GB DDR3 Ram (not a lot, I know, I'm saving to upgrade)
GeForce GTX 560Ti card

Motherboard should be pretty new, don't have the model on me but the PC was purchased in early 2012.


I get 9fps in menus, and the game is pretty much unplayable for me in matches, even at all the lowest settings.

Hopefully they'll get it sorted out. The game looks really cool in the videos where it's running at a respectable rate.

EDIT: Played with some settings as well. I originally had a dual monitor setup. Reduced to one monitor increased menu frame rate only to ~10fps. Changing process priority didn't change framerate noticeably. Running the game shows my memory usage is only at ~45% for all settings.

Edited by PtblDuffy, October 29 2012 - 07:20 AM.

[Saint_The_Judge]

I don't have any doubt they are already aware of this big issue, which is a binary matter for a lot of people. I see there are some players with way worse performance than mine. I have my stutterings and frame freezings, but I'm still able to play. Someone with 10 or 15 FPS doesn't.
Fingers crossed!

[DS08]

PtblDuffy, on October 29 2012 - 07:10 AM, said:

Win7 x64

Core i7-3770K @ 3.50GHz
4 GB DDR3 Ram (not a lot, I know, I'm saving to upgrade)
GeForce GTX 560Ti card

Motherboard should be pretty new, don't have the model on me but the PC was purchased in early 2012.


I get 9fps in menus, and the game is pretty much unplayable for me in matches.

Hopefully they'll get it sorted out. The game looks really cool in the videos where it's running at a respectable rate.

Your system is, in general, better than mine with the exception of having half the RAM, you should be able to play the game no problem.. my guess is that something else is slowing your game down, maybe bloatware, or you AV, or background programs, but the specs you posted should run the game at around 30-40 fps gameplay... having less ram should , and I qoute "SHOULD", only affect your loading times.

[SoniTuX336]

Intel Core i5 CPU 650 @ 3.20Ghz
RAM 8.00 GB (3.30 Gb avaible [__] )
Windows 7 32 Bit
Geforce GTX 570


I can set the "ultra" many games, but if I do this with many FPS does drop.
I've tried various configurations, but only to make it run smoothly is putting the resolution to a minimum, disable the rest and set textures to low.

Sorry my english....

Edited by SoniTuX336, October 29 2012 - 12:51 PM.

[DS08]

SoniTuX336, on October 29 2012 - 12:49 PM, said:

Intel Core i5 CPU 650 @ 3.20Ghz
RAM 8.00 GB (3.30 Gb avaible [__] )
Windows 7 32 Bit
Geforce GTX 570


I can set the "ultra" many games, but if I do this with many FPS does drop.
I've tried various configurations, but only to make it run smoothly is putting the resolution to a minimum, disable the rest and set textures to low.

Sorry my english....

Your system is slow because you're running windows in 32bit, that limits the amount of RAM you can use to 2.3gb-3.4gb depending on your motherboard. You need to upgrade to a 64bit operating system to use all of your RAM... currently, if you had 16gb of RAM in your computer, you would still only be able to use 3.3GB.

You also are running on a Dual Core processor, this can cause the game to load very slowly if anything else is running in the background. If all other programs are exited before hand, the game should run well aside from slow loading times.

Your graphics card is good.

Edited by DS08, October 29 2012 - 06:10 PM.

[Neurofunk]

I'm on a laptop i7 2.2ghz / 8GB DDR3 / GeForce GT540M 1GB - alpha was practically unplayable on low settings, with beta I can play smooooooothly @ 720p / high detail - most of the peeps seem to have issues with ATI cards - there has to be something wrong with ATI support atm.

Also everyone on a lappy that supports dual graphics, eg CPU integrated and discrete GPU (like nVidia Optimus technology) should make sure game doesnt run on the CPU graphics by default - I didn't realise that at first and it was totally unplayable, but after forcing it to run on discrete GPU - all is fine.

theres definitely a large space for improvement tho, but thats the purpose of beta testing - not to show off how good pc you have and point others with lower-specd machines.

[SoniTuX336]

DS08, on October 29 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

SoniTuX336, on October 29 2012 - 12:49 PM, said:

Intel Core i5 CPU 650 @ 3.20Ghz
RAM 8.00 GB (3.30 Gb avaible [__] )
Windows 7 32 Bit
Geforce GTX 570


I can set the "ultra" many games, but if I do this with many FPS does drop.
I've tried various configurations, but only to make it run smoothly is putting the resolution to a minimum, disable the rest and set textures to low.

Sorry my english....

Your system is slow because you're running windows in 32bit, that limits the amount of RAM you can use to 2.3gb-3.4gb depending on your motherboard. You need to upgrade to a 64bit operating system to use all of your RAM... currently, if you had 16gb of RAM in your computer, you would still only be able to use 3.3GB.

You also are running on a Dual Core processor, this can cause the game to load very slowly if anything else is running in the background. If all other programs are exited before hand, the game should run well aside from slow loading times.

Your graphics card is good.

So, i must upgrade to 64bit_
Or i must upgrade to 64bit and change motherboard_

Can you say me a suggestion more precise_

[DS08]

SoniTuX336, on October 30 2012 - 05:15 AM, said:

DS08, on October 29 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

SoniTuX336, on October 29 2012 - 12:49 PM, said:

Intel Core i5 CPU 650 @ 3.20Ghz
RAM 8.00 GB (3.30 Gb avaible [__] )
Windows 7 32 Bit
Geforce GTX 570


I can set the "ultra" many games, but if I do this with many FPS does drop.
I've tried various configurations, but only to make it run smoothly is putting the resolution to a minimum, disable the rest and set textures to low.

Sorry my english....

Your system is slow because you're running windows in 32bit, that limits the amount of RAM you can use to 2.3gb-3.4gb depending on your motherboard. You need to upgrade to a 64bit operating system to use all of your RAM... currently, if you had 16gb of RAM in your computer, you would still only be able to use 3.3GB.

You also are running on a Dual Core processor, this can cause the game to load very slowly if anything else is running in the background. If all other programs are exited before hand, the game should run well aside from slow loading times.

Your graphics card is good.

So, i must upgrade to 64bit_
Or i must upgrade to 64bit and change motherboard_

Can you say me a suggestion more precise_

Upgrading to 64bit will allow you to use all of your RAM, yes.

[Neurofunk]

yeah man, you should totally upgrade to 64bit Windows !