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So if you're like me, you've got a garage full of level six mechs(and some level five mechs you don't bother to level them up anymore because you already have the prestige weapon).

The idea of this is to give you an excuse to dust off your maxed out mechs, and potentially give a silly weapon.

 

Mech level seven is basically just another mech level, no fancy requirements to get to it, just takes even more experience to get it up to level seven. G2s are still unlocked at level six

 

Specialist weapons are meant to shake up what the mech does already, or to complement whats already there. They aren't meant to be better, just meant to be different and to give similar mechs some diversity, or to give the lesser used weapons some more use. Also, this to give the mechs new weapons with out interfering with the weapons they already have. Some examples:

Berzerker: Baby-Bear(OK, this is just me wanting to see a huge weapon get stuck on a tiny bot)

Tech: SMC

CRT: HEAT Cannon

Assault: Mini Flak

Bruiser: AM-SAR

Brawler: Breacher

Rocketeer: Slug Rifle

 

This is only meat to be a quick example, any other suggestions are appreciated.

 

One last thing, you can not unlock specialist weapons early(To make the incentive to go through the entire unlock tree, maybe you'll find a weapon you like more).

 

How do you guys think of this? Would you want this? What weapons could go where?



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Hmmm seeing a tech with a SMC sounds nice, while not the strongest weapon, it does compliment its play style.

 

The CRT is near obsolete now, with a few players still using it for its chassis

 

Assault with a mini-flak, might play like a slow scout, except that's a brawler

 

Bruiser with an AM-SAR, I've got nothing

 

Brawler with a breacher I think is a good idea, similar to a flak when uncharged but like a SA Hawkins shot when charged

 

Rocketeer with a slug rifle i don't think will work that well, tons of hp with long range weapons



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I think you should be able to get any primary weapon for any mech. Any mech can choose from several primaries, and most primaries can be used by several mechs, so it seems like which can use which is really arbitrary. Maybe there should be exceptions for primaries that are unique to a certain mech, but it seems like if a primary can be used by more than one mech, it should be able to be used by any mech.



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I think you should be able to get any primary weapon for any mech. Any mech can choose from several primaries, and most primaries can be used by several mechs, so it seems like which can use which is really arbitrary. Maybe there should be exceptions for primaries that are unique to a certain mech, but it seems like if a primary can be used by more than one mech, it should be able to be used by any mech.

 

 

 

Assault: Mini Flak

 

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Edited by KilleR_OrigiNs, 30 April 2015 - 09:59 PM.


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Yeah, I get that some primaries are actually unique to certain mechs, and those should probably stay unique. I just think that for the primaries that aren't unique, which mechs can use them is really arbitrary. A less arbitrary system will satisfy me.

 

Amidatelion, what makes a Mini-Flak Assault so much better than the Mini-Flak Scout (which has the same secondary as the Assault, just trades more speed for less health than Assault) or Mini-Flak Vanguard (which is admittedly less similar with its GL secondary)?



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Should be SA Hawkins Bruiser.

 

Breacher Brawler would have insane insane burst.

 

Assault with Mini Flak is silly stupid OP.  That thing has the HIGHEST DPS in the game, plus a coolant ability.  

 

CRT HEAT cannon would be interesting to see.  Best saved for a new mech imo, that combo on a B class.

 

Slug Rocketeer still seems useless.  No zoom function either.

 

SMC Tech, I would reather have a a PN223 rework so that the weapon is viable instead.  A reworked and improved PN223 could be what a current SMC would do for the Tech I think.

 

BBY Zerker is funny looking though.  Not very effective I would think, esp given the time it takes to get at full firerate.  I'm meh.

 

 

Overall: meh. Except Breacher Brawler. That thing is fuzzy bunny awesome.


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I think you should be able to get any primary weapon for any mech. Any mech can choose from several primaries, and most primaries can be used by several mechs, so it seems like which can use which is really arbitrary. Maybe there should be exceptions for primaries that are unique to a certain mech, but it seems like if a primary can be used by more than one mech, it should be able to be used by any mech.

 

Yea, it would be cool to see what you could come up with just like Alpha I believe, but for higher level game-play, it would totally break the game for everyone. I'm cool with the idea of new levels, but new weapons would be game changing.


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Yea, it would be cool to see what you could come up with just like Alpha I believe, but for higher level game-play, it would totally break the game for everyone. I'm cool with the idea of new levels, but new weapons would be game changing.

 

It wouldn't be as game breaking if weapons were more intrinsically balanced rather than the current system which only lets you choose certain premade combinations. But yeah, as it is it'd probably break everything.


Edited by Rchive, 19 April 2015 - 08:27 PM.


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Higher mech levels absolutely yes!


Berzerker: Baby-Bear(OK, this is just me wanting to see a huge weapon get stuck on a tiny bot)

Tech: SMC

CRT: HEAT Cannon

Assault: Mini Flak

Bruiser: AM-SAR

Brawler: Breacher

Rocketeer: Slug Rifle

 

I don't like this idea at all though.

 

Some of those are just bad ideas, Assault w/ m-Flak.... that would be brutal.  Some of those would be interesting new mechs though and thats what the game desperately needs.

 

Maybe a special unique to the mech, a special item or internal that could only be unlocked at a higher level?  It could just be a tweaked version of existing items but something a bit "different".



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...rev-gl incin :no:


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...rev-gl incin :no:

 

Doesn't work. The only weapons that generate enough to make an incin viable are incin weapons. The BBY has like three times the heat generation of a miniflak.



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how about at rank 7 we get an Alt Primary? that would be cool



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I can say seeker incin works rather nicely, albeit on like two maps but meh.

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How about G2 raider with a breacher 






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