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[Beemann]

Dread_Lord_Pitr, on November 28 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

Should read; anyone under 18 should not be playing videogames aimed at adults without supervision.

And i say this because i grew up with computers and BBS'es (before the internet came along full force, you know, pre 56.6k), and if at that point in time the BBS operators would have had those same sentiments you just put forth, i would not have been able to learn anything interesting about computers until after i was 18, and i'd not be where i am today.

Besides, how old were you when you started out on the Internet (or BBS'es if you're old enough to have known those) _

Asian and I both firmly recall the dial-up sound from early years (had a small discussion about this sort of thing a couple of times in mumble. Technology/gaming nostalgia conversations are the best)
Also I ended up playing Mortal Kombat long before I hit highschool, and a friend of mine had Doom on a floppy, so that ended up being one of my first shooters (along with Goldeneye) even though I wasn`t really supposed to be playing them
I had Fallout and Baldur`s Gate at my disposal in Elementary school (sadly though, Fallout didn't work) and I was firmly entrenched in multiplayer games (without supervision) when I was 13. I had somewhat limited access to the internet prior to that

I think a lot of people get overly bent out of shape when it comes to ratings, especially when you consider some of the bizarre ESRB ratings over the years . Sure it's always good to check out what your kid is doing, but ultimately I think having proper knowledge of the subject matter is infinitely more important than adhering strictly to any outside age-based rating system

Edited by Beemann, November 28 2012 - 05:20 PM.

[Ollie]

Dread_Lord_Pitr, on November 28 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

Snoof, on November 28 2012 - 03:51 PM, said:

This is what happens when you make competitive games "noob-friendly"..... children under 18 should NOT be allowed on the internet

Should read; anyone under 18 should not be playing videogames aimed at adults without supervision.

And i say this because i grew up with computers and BBS'es (before the internet came along full force, you know, pre 56.6k), and if at that point in time the BBS operators would have had those same sentiments you just put forth, i would not have been able to learn anything interesting about computers until after i was 18, and i'd not be where i am today.

Besides, how old were you when you started out on the Internet (or BBS'es if you're old enough to have known those) _

Same.  Started at 11 with a 2400 modem and a grip of BBSes.  The under 18 issue is a load of fuzzy bunny.  Unfortunately, we've probably got another 10 years before today's gamers become tomorrow's parents and have the good sense to check in on their gaming kid once in a while.

[Dreizehn]

I wouldn't use age as a hard standard for anything. I've met surprisingly polite and mature kids online and some terribly immature and horrible middle aged people. I think its better to get exposure to most stuff young, as to not grow up to be a repressed off in the head douchebag.

[Female]

I have been called a god...

[ReachH]

haha it happened today. Someone was whining how higher levels have more stat points or something (seriously would 3 points make that much of a difference_). I only played my nooby box assault cuz I didn't want to bone pub games too hard :/ Now it's level 16, and I have no more meteor points - what am I supposed to do_

And then this little gem



Glorious

[HellRik]

ReachH, on November 28 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

Callouts!

You could at least hide his name

[ReachH]

People should be accountable, even over the internet :/

[SirCannonFodder]

I'm apparently good enough to make someone ragequit the game permanently, or at least that's what they were ranting when they were complaining about the matchmaker putting them up against a level 20 brawler.

[Beemann]

Female, on November 28 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:

I have been called a god...

That's silly
Everyone knows that you call a Female God a Goddess

[PiVoR]

Poeople call me cheater all the time, you get used to it...

[Skylead]

Immie, on November 28 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

From Beta 1. Haven't had a chance to play much Beta 3 yet, for shame, RL.

We have noticed your absence, and you should feel SHAME!

[AsianJoyKiller]

Skylead, on November 28 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

Immie, on November 28 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

From Beta 1. Haven't had a chance to play much Beta 3 yet, for shame, RL.

We have noticed your absence, and you should feel SHAME!

Let us shun Immie!

[Dread_Lord_Pitr]

PiVoR, on November 28 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

Poeople call me cheater all the time, you get used to it...

You are just OP, and need to be nerfed.
I suggest a clawhammer to the fingers
(just kidding man, you just play insanely well, can't fault you for it, and i've seen you switch over when teams were badly stacked, so kudo's).

[DarkPulse]

AsianJoyKiller, on November 28 2012 - 01:16 PM, said:

Anybody else still find the time when some people proposed turning down graphical options in .ini was the same a cheating hilarious_

Well, it can be in some ways. I remember in UT3 there was an INI tweak that let you turn texture LOD so low that it basically removed the textures:





At that point, yes I would call it a cheat.

But for the most part, short of doing things like that, or removing things that are only remobable with INIs (foliage in earlier games for example), I don't consider INI tweaking hacks.

It did amuse friends of mine back when I was playing UT2004 with the BeyondUnreal guys:



(Based on a true story!)

Skylead, on November 28 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

Sometimes I see merit in this argument. Example: In Tribes: Ascend you could strip trees down almost to wireframe levels which a lot of comp snipers did to avoid having LoS blocked by leaves and some branches. Personally I choose to train my eyes for the full shiny levels and don't care if people that turn them down get an advantage, but the sauce for qq is there. (except motion blur, fuzzy bunny that fuzzy bunny)

This is what I do as well. I view it, in a way, as taking more skill to play this way, with everything on, as long as it doesn't murder your framerate. (PhysX still does even with an INI wipe, or I'd turn that on too.)

And yes, I have motion blur on. I actually LIKE having motion blur on.

ReachH, on November 28 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

haha it happened today. Someone was whining how higher levels have more stat points or something (seriously would 3 points make that much of a difference_). I only played my nooby box assault cuz I didn't want to bone pub games too hard :/ Now it's level 16, and I have no more meteor points - what am I supposed to do_

And then this little gem

Funny thing is he didn't even die as much as the other guys. But yeah, you guys kind of stomped them.

Edited by DarkPulse, November 29 2012 - 01:33 AM.

[Frenotx]

I got accused of hax back in alpha, but not since. The dude that accused me just kept falling for the same tricks, over and over.

[Spawny]

I wonder if I've played against any people who post here regularly.

I haven't played in the past 2 days and I'm usually online around 10 pm greenwich+1.

Haven't been called a hacker yet, but as many others, have been told I was too high level or using the very OP scout. (A mechs are for noobs)

[Beemann]

I don't really see why removing textures in an arena game would be cheating, particularly when that level of graphical simplicity has been an accepted practice in competitive matches for a long time

[Cyclonus]

My team was accused of being composed of hackers, but it was probably a light-hearted joke.

[DarkPulse]

Beemann, on November 29 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

I don't really see why removing textures in an arena game would be cheating, particularly when that level of graphical simplicity has been an accepted practice in competitive matches for a long time

Because it's a stupid thing to do and is part of why I never took the competitive scene seriously at all_

Things like that make me wish that devs would lock out settings like that from player modification, or else enforce some minimum level of detail in the code.

[Beemann]

DarkPulse, on November 29 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

Because it's a stupid thing to do and is part of why I never took the competitive scene seriously at all_

Things like that make me wish that devs would lock out settings like that from player modification, or else enforce some minimum level of detail in the code.

To paraphrase "Because I don't like it"