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[The_Silencer]

Simply that.
How about a rear-view mirror for your mech_.

P.S. Or if you wish, one rear video-camera system.

[StantonJL]

Definitely, the radar will show you if theres something behind you but it only has two axis and while in normal fps games thats not much of a problem, these things can fly.

[Barcode1]

I think it'd be a harder game without one and would probably be easier on one's computer if there were no such camera/mirror. Plus, it'll get disorienting/distracting to have the rear view visuals swinging around all the time, considering the speed of the game as it is - which also brings in the fact that you can easily check your own back quite quickly....

Oh. There's a lot of solid HUD on the screen as it is too, IMO. Sorry man, I don't like this idea.

[legionwolff1]

I think it would add a lot of oh sh1t moments. Like you see a missle flying at you so you hit the jump jets. I vote Yes!

[lavalamp1138]

That's a pretty neat idea, Silencer.   However, I believe the ability to do a 180 degree spin with the mech will remedy the need for any rear-view mirrors. Being able to perform this maneuver will not only ease that feeling of being watched, but it'll also prove quite useful in many different combat situations.

[The_Silencer]

Ups.. that's absolutely true!

[LazyFailKid]

Ill vote yes just because whem I'm running away I would want to see my enemy so it would be easier to avoid him

[The_Silencer]

These are not the drones that you're looking for

[bfcunion351]

Nice to know when your Radar is Jammed what is sneaking up on you.

[JackDandy]

Hmmm.. although it would be useful, I think keeping the focus on the radar and 180-spin move would add more to the game's tension.

[The_Silencer]

The modeler is going to throw a bone to your heads... and the coder will do it too!. LOL

[Hypevosa]

My question is, who would ever design mechs like these without the ability to see behind them_  Battlefield awareness is something of utmost importance, and, to think that the ability for the pilot to see behind themselves would be overlooked is silly.

That said, I understand from a rendering standpoint why you'd want to avoid that.

If it's possible, I think we should do it, but I'll understand if engine limitations mean it's an impossibility.  It would be a little surprising if a small rear view mirror wouldn't be possible though.

[GREW]

While being a good idea on paper. I can't see it implicating well with the gameplay. Its not like anyone is going to be directly sneaking up behind you. The fast pace of the mechs would make it difficult to be tediously checking my mirrors for enemies while on the move.  Also its not like the backs of the mechs are transparent. How would a rear vision mirror work_ It would have to be side mirrors and that's just silly.

[The_Silencer]

First of all, glad to see how you're rescuing a suggestion based thread which, IMHO, still should be on the lab table.

How vision works in Hawken_: Looks to me that you have several cams externally installed which provide you with what you see into your mech cockpit. As you can see in the gameplay videos there're not visible windows or glass placed on the mechs. At least I've not seen any.

According to that hypothesis and related observations I can not see where would be the problem with one or more rear cams ( if you want.. extra ones).

A moderately big rear-view mirror ( or if you want an extra rear view activated via shortcut.. a là Cars or Airplanes SIM game ) would be a nice touch, IMO.

But.... if the implementation of this suggestion could be translated into some noticeable loss of performeance then simply.. to hell with this.   Anyway, as Lava has said above you always have the 180º move... some times you'll have to use the Force though... (j/k)


You got a point with the amount of quality and tactical sight a rear-mirrow can give you back in such a fast paced game as Hawken... but I remind you that radar only reports you on the X plane, not on the Y plane (height). Although at this stage, I may be wrong on this as well.

[D20Face]

The_Silencer said:

You got a point with the amount of quality and tactical sight a rear-mirrow can give you back in such a fast paced game as Hawken... but I remind you that radar only reports you on the X plane, not on the Y plane (height). Although at this stage, I may be wrong on this as well.

When I was at PAX somebody said that they had gone through multiple renditions of the radar, including height indicators(arrows or something).

Whatever works best is what they'll use. No telling what they've got planned thus far.

The_Silencer said:

You got a point with the amount of quality and tactical sight a rear-mirrow can give you back in such a fast paced game as Hawken.

I actually completely disagree with him on that point.

First and foremost sneaking behind people is a staple of shooters of all sorts. A rear view mirror would be ridiculously useful at pinning targets behind you. Whether they haven't gotten within range to shoot yet or just flat out aren't targeting you, that extra eye would be handy.

It's been said in several threads that the eye picks up movement rather well. Something flashing across the rear view mirror would likely be easily noticeable. Even if it's just that extra half second notice you get when somebody lands behind you, it could very well mean the difference between life and death.

[The_Silencer]

I concur

P.S. I forgot to use italics at  that "You got a point..." .. but I still think that he has a point up there

[Keekenox]

A rear view mirror would be a great idea. I like to be aware of my surroundings. And also it could be a cockpit module that you customize, like the fuzzy dice! Actually we need them to hang the fuzzy dice!!! D:

[The_Silencer]

IIRC, there's a good sample of it in the Avatar movie. Although Can not find a proper picture for you now.

Anyways, I think that the poll speaks by itself pretty well ATM.

[D20Face]

Keekenox2 said:

Actually we need them to hang the fuzzy dice!!! D:

Gorramit. There's no contest now. We need rear view mirrors.

[Naraklok]

Rear-view mirrors_ No thanks.

Perhaps a camera toggable on-HUD to view whats behind you...but not mirrors.