Because the EOC is a hot topic in this thread and how Akrium said, it WILL piss some people off I want to add my post too, even if the last post was over a month ago.
However I am new to the EOC but I noticed fast it great burst damage BUT in a fight with moving mechs it's quite difficult to hit all 6 mines .. + the EOC needs to be loaded. I prefare the 3 mines shot in this kind of fight as I have more chances to hit (I think). I play a level 25 Inflitrator by the way.
However I don't think the EOC should be nerfed (again) .. If I remember corrctly it was nerfed some time ago already.
EOC is a mine-layer:
I would hardly aggree with that.
Imagine how useless the EOC would be (if direct hits do the same/less dmg than a mine on the ground). The mines will only explode if a mech is
walking over it or after some seconds.
If you want the EOC be a mine-layer I suggest this:
- mines explode if another explosion (like the GL or TOW) is made nearby.
So it would be possible to make the mines explode whenever YOU want it (or the enemy).
However to avoid the EOC mine damage just fly over them as the explosive range is not very high (actually it is but the hard steel of the mech is hard enought to avoid hard damage
). However, in the air you are less mobile, you can easly be hit directly by the EOC wich solves the problem more or less.
Another thing:
The EOC is in my opinion not just for fun the prestige weapon for the inflitrator. The EOC fits perfectly in the 'hit-and-run' tactic and beats every enemy mech wich is build to stay long in fights some like the assult or the recruit but beating an A class with the EOC is hard because of it's mobility. For example the scout. The Scout is the worst enemy for the inflitrator in my opinion because a good scout will stay very close to you so you get also damage from your explosives making the scout always winning. A reaper or a Berserker are also quite mobile and can easily dodge your EOC mines. If you are really planning to nerf the EOC (again) think about what many people said: "The EOC is hard to master, it requires skill to hit many mines diirectly and in a fight you will
never hit every 6 mines."
If the EOC is going to be nerfed I'd just switch back to the HEAT-cannon as the damage output is then better than the EOC wich makes the EOC as the lv25 weapon very poor.
Other mechs
Not only the Inflitrator can use the EOC. For example the rocketeer can also use this weapon but with lv 4. The rocketeer is a medium difficult mech and the EOC fits not perfectly in his strategy. The EOC gives the rocketter just abit of area control as the seeker-rockets just explode if something is hit. Also the EOC does not increase accuracy when a target is locked on with the hellfire-rockets weapon. (The EOC has already a 100% accuracy rate).
My opinion
The EOC is a strong weapon yes, but only for those who master it. It cannot be used as high damage dealer over time and gives a bit of area control. The high lifetime of the mines prevent using the EOC as 'area-nuke-weapon' (Example: Mech 1 is camping behind the corner Mech 2 (has the EOC equipped) fires mines next to Mech 1, Mech 1 has enought time to move AWAY before hit by the EOC. If the mines explode after one-two seconds you can use the EOC just like the GL: shoot around corners.)
PS: This could be accepted as a flame for the EOC repeater.
PPS: my english is not the best I'm really sorry for that, I work hard in my english lessons to improve my english skills!
PPPS: I don't like "nerf suggestions" especially damage nerf suggestions. Your post has good ideas but not with quite good reasons. If all your suggestions become true, the word 'burst' would be unknown for every Hawken player and mechs would discover a huge damage loss making mechs with shotguns or explosives weapons very unpopular. True, one-hit-kills are quite annoying but 3 mech at once will dothe same, even nerfed.
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no I'm not finished yet
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If you feel replying on my post pleas do this in a non-rage way. If I'm wrong, tell me and tell my
why! I'm open for every kind of improvements and I don't say my opinion is the best, it's just my opinion
Edited by FakeName, May 25 2013 - 08:25 AM.