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[RemoteRadical]

Given how wildly different different mech's playstyles and loadouts are, there simply isn't a single control scheme that suits them all. Enter AutoHotkey.

AutoHotkey allows to rebind keys on the fly, but also program advanced macros. While it does have controversial potential for abuse, HAWKEN is not a game that lends itself to abuse through macros. Scripts in here should however improve control ergonomics and level playing field for those without gaming mice.

Sorry I won't create full tutorial on installing and customising the scripts, but there are myriad of ways to get help for this popular software.
Feel free to contribute. I will keep adding useful scripts in the topic.

The following script is for snipers. It is meant for comboing two burst weapons like flak and sabot rifles on Reaper. On Reaper especially cooldown of both weapons is so similar there is rarely a reason NOT to fire both simultanously. This script rebinds LMB to fire both weapons simultaneously and rebinds RMB to zoom for easier quick-scopes ("o" key zooms in my bind). Default behaviour is toggled back with "r" button.

~r::
Suspend,Toggle
return
Burst:
SetMouseDelay -1
Send {LButton}{RButton}
return
LButton:: gosub Burst
RButton:: o

Edited by RemoteRadical, February 18 2014 - 08:13 PM.

[nokari]

I have never felt like I needed to change any key bindings when switching between multiple different mechs. Why would you need to do this_

[RemoteRadical]

nokari, on February 18 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

I have never felt like I needed to change any key bindings when switching between multiple different mechs. Why would you need to do this_

Well, what key do you use to detonate TOW_ To use airburst function effectivelly you need pefect timing on detonation. Even with a gaming mouse I find that thumb buttons take too much time to reach and wheel button is too slow too. Double- tapping right button is perfect and intuitive.

Just wait till I finish the sniper class script.

Edited by RemoteRadical, February 18 2014 - 12:16 PM.

[Paschar]

nokari, on February 18 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

I have never felt like I needed to change any key bindings when switching between multiple different mechs. Why would you need to do this_

[RemoteRadical]

Paschar, on February 18 2014 - 12:16 PM, said:

nokari, on February 18 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

I have never felt like I needed to change any key bindings when switching between multiple different mechs. Why would you need to do this_

Like explained above, double-tapping RMB for TAW airburst is more comfortable and makes more sense than using separate key.

[nokari]

RemoteRadical, on February 18 2014 - 12:24 PM, said:

Paschar, on February 18 2014 - 12:16 PM, said:

nokari, on February 18 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

I have never felt like I needed to change any key bindings when switching between multiple different mechs. Why would you need to do this_

Like explained above, double-tapping RMB for TAW airburst is more comfortable and makes more sense than using separate key.

Let's get this straight then, because the default is not separate keys and what you're saying is actually more like using separate keys than one...

[RemoteRadical]

nokari, on February 18 2014 - 12:28 PM, said:

Let's get this straight then, because the default is not separate keys and what you're saying is actually more like using separate keys than one...

Default is "Secondary Weapon" to shoot and whatever you bound to "Weapon Utility" to detonate. So- two keys. Sorry if previous wording hasn't made clear what I meant.

Edited by RemoteRadical, February 18 2014 - 12:33 PM.

[nokari]

RemoteRadical, on February 18 2014 - 12:15 PM, said:

nokari, on February 18 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

I have never felt like I needed to change any key bindings when switching between multiple different mechs. Why would you need to do this_

Well, what key do you use to detonate TOW_ To use airburst function effectivelly you need pefect timing on detonation. Even with a gaming mouse I find that thumb buttons take too much time to reach and wheel button is too slow too. Double- tapping right button is perfect and intuitive.

Just wait till I finish the sniper class script.

For using the TOW, I shoot with the right button and I detonate with the right button, just as the default is for everybody else. I don't know why that would possibly be hard for someone not using a "gaming" mouse.
Double-tapping the right button doesn't make sense to me, because it's easier to fuzzy bunny up and takes more time, which can be a frequent crucial mistake.
My mouse is a basic Microsoft Wireless 4000 (which is not a gaming mouse) that has one extra thumb button. I use that for all my weapon utilities. It's right on my thumb, so I don't know how I could possibly not be able to reach it unless I was wildly letting go of my mouse for some dumb reason. For that matter, my middle finger usually hovers over the scroll wheel too, but I only use it for switching between deployables.

Edited by nokari, February 18 2014 - 12:37 PM.

[nokari]

RemoteRadical, on February 18 2014 - 12:32 PM, said:

nokari, on February 18 2014 - 12:28 PM, said:

Let's get this straight then, because the default is not separate keys and what you're saying is actually more like using separate keys than one...

Default is "Secondary Weapon" to shoot and whatever you bound to "Weapon Utility" to detonate. So- two keys. Sorry if previous wording hasn't made clear what I meant.

Umm nope.. Maybe you can also detonate with Weapon Utility, but detonating with the right button has always been the default for the TOW and GL. Otherwise what you're saying would defy every version I've played since Alpha and I know that's not the case. I've always been able to detonate using the same right button.

Edited by nokari, February 18 2014 - 12:53 PM.

[RemoteRadical]

Haha! All right. I stand corrected.

But in my defence- the tutorial -does- say to use the utility button- that is the same one which zooms in with sniper weapons (middle mouse by default).
And I stuck with it, never questioning, never using RMB.

Sorry for the fuss.

Edited by RemoteRadical, February 18 2014 - 01:34 PM.

[CptCoy]

RemoteRadical, on February 18 2014 - 01:33 PM, said:

Haha! All right. I stand corrected.

But in my defence- the tutorial -does- say to use the utility button- that is the same one which zooms in with sniper weapons (middle mouse by default).
And I stuck with it, never questioning, never using RMB.

Sorry for the fuss.

The tutorial didn't tell me that when I just played it a couple days ago. It told me to use the right mouse to fire, and right mouse to detonate, which is the default. Like I have been since.

I didn't even know you could use another key, but I don't see why you would want to either.

I also have no idea what you would need to use macros for in this game, do you have any other examples_ Obviously this one doesn't help any of us understand what this is for.

Edited by CptCoy, February 18 2014 - 05:51 PM.

[RemoteRadical]

CptCoy, on February 18 2014 - 05:50 PM, said:

I also have no idea what you would need to use macros for in this game, do you have any other examples_ Obviously this one doesn't help any of us understand what this is for.

Sure! The following script is for snipers. It is meant for comboing two burst weapons like flak and sabot rifles on Reaper. On Reaper especially cooldown of both weapons is so similar there is rarely a reason NOT to fire both simultanously. This scrips rebinds LMB to fire both weapons simultaneously and rebinds RMB to zoom for easier quick-scopes ("o" key zooms in my bind). Default behaviour is toggled back with "r" button.

~r::
Suspend,Toggle
return
Burst:
SetMouseDelay -1
Send {LButton}{Rbutton} ;
return
LButton:: gosub Burst
RButton:: o

Tomorrow I will modify it to change zoom-toggle behaviour to hold-to-zoom, which most advanced players would likely prefer.
Another example is auto-fire script for AM-Sar. Frequent complaint is that it is difficult to track with this weapon because you need to click three times a second. Simple script will change that to full auto. I will post it tomorrow too.
I don't see it coming useful, but macros can have timings that would allow (for instance) to automatically fire semi-automatic weapon at exact time it finishes reloading. Or charging weapons to fire as soon as they are charged.

Edited by RemoteRadical, February 18 2014 - 08:18 PM.

[Requiem132]

RemoteRadical, on February 18 2014 - 08:07 PM, said:

CptCoy, on February 18 2014 - 05:50 PM, said:

I also have no idea what you would need to use macros for in this game, do you have any other examples_ Obviously this one doesn't help any of us understand what this is for.

Sure! The following script is for snipers. It is meant for comboing two burst weapons like flak and sabot rifles on Reaper. On Reaper especially cooldown of both weapons is so similar there is rarely a reason NOT to fire both simultanously. This scrips rebinds LMB to fire both weapons simultaneously and rebinds RMB to zoom for easier quick-scopes ("o" key zooms in my bind). Default behaviour is toggled back with "r" button.

~r::
Suspend,Toggle
return
Burst:
SetMouseDelay -1
Send {LButton}{Rbutton} ;
return
LButton:: gosub Burst
RButton:: o

Tomorrow I will modify it to change zoom-toggle behaviour to hold-to-zoom, which most advanced players would likely prefer.
Another example is auto-fire script for AM-Sar. Frequent complaint is that it is difficult to track with this weapon because you need to click three times a second. Simple script will change that to full auto. I will post it tomorrow too.
I don't see it coming useful, but macros can have timings that would allow (for instance) to automatically fire semi-automatic weapon at exact time it finishes reloading. Or charging weapons to fire as soon as they are charged.

STOP DONT MAKE THE AM-SAR SCRIPT! For the love of god no one should be given a fire advantage over a other due to scripts and may even be considered cheating.

[Elladan]

Requiem132, on February 19 2014 - 05:27 AM, said:

RemoteRadical, on February 18 2014 - 08:07 PM, said:

stuff and shinies

STOP DONT MAKE THE AM-SAR SCRIPT! For the love of god no one should be given a fire advantage over a other due to scripts and may even be considered cheating.

I agree

[CptCoy]

RemoteRadical, on February 18 2014 - 08:07 PM, said:

CptCoy, on February 18 2014 - 05:50 PM, said:

I also have no idea what you would need to use macros for in this game, do you have any other examples_ Obviously this one doesn't help any of us understand what this is for.

Sure! The following script is for snipers. It is meant for comboing two burst weapons like flak and sabot rifles on Reaper. On Reaper especially cooldown of both weapons is so similar there is rarely a reason NOT to fire both simultanously. This scrips rebinds LMB to fire both weapons simultaneously and rebinds RMB to zoom for easier quick-scopes ("o" key zooms in my bind). Default behaviour is toggled back with "r" button.

~r::
Suspend,Toggle
return
Burst:
SetMouseDelay -1
Send {LButton}{Rbutton} ;
return
LButton:: gosub Burst
RButton:: o

Tomorrow I will modify it to change zoom-toggle behaviour to hold-to-zoom, which most advanced players would likely prefer.
Another example is auto-fire script for AM-Sar. Frequent complaint is that it is difficult to track with this weapon because you need to click three times a second. Simple script will change that to full auto. I will post it tomorrow too.
I don't see it coming useful, but macros can have timings that would allow (for instance) to automatically fire semi-automatic weapon at exact time it finishes reloading. Or charging weapons to fire as soon as they are charged.

See at this level I would personally consider this cheating.

[nokari]

CptCoy, on February 19 2014 - 11:22 AM, said:

RemoteRadical, on February 18 2014 - 08:07 PM, said:

CptCoy, on February 18 2014 - 05:50 PM, said:

I also have no idea what you would need to use macros for in this game, do you have any other examples_ Obviously this one doesn't help any of us understand what this is for.

Sure! The following script is for snipers. It is meant for comboing two burst weapons like flak and sabot rifles on Reaper. On Reaper especially cooldown of both weapons is so similar there is rarely a reason NOT to fire both simultanously. This scrips rebinds LMB to fire both weapons simultaneously and rebinds RMB to zoom for easier quick-scopes ("o" key zooms in my bind). Default behaviour is toggled back with "r" button.

~r::
Suspend,Toggle
return
Burst:
SetMouseDelay -1
Send {LButton}{Rbutton} ;
return
LButton:: gosub Burst
RButton:: o

Tomorrow I will modify it to change zoom-toggle behaviour to hold-to-zoom, which most advanced players would likely prefer.
Another example is auto-fire script for AM-Sar. Frequent complaint is that it is difficult to track with this weapon because you need to click three times a second. Simple script will change that to full auto. I will post it tomorrow too.
I don't see it coming useful, but macros can have timings that would allow (for instance) to automatically fire semi-automatic weapon at exact time it finishes reloading. Or charging weapons to fire as soon as they are charged.

See at this level I would personally consider this cheating.

I agree. That's pretty much cheating. Using third-party software to give yourself an advantage over other players in a game is forbidden.

[Wasabi_Wei]

Macros are cheating in this game. I can think of a few that confer serious advantages that I think I see out there a lot, and shame on those who use them.

[Invect]

AHK is also good for custom crosshairs. Should be helpful until the devs come up with custom crosshairs (but seeing as the current crosshair is dynamic, I wouldn't count on it)

As for the AM-SAR controversy, just bind primary fire to the mousewheel. Set your mousewheel to activate multiple times per click. Boom. Done.

Or should I say boomboomboomboomboom-

[dEd101]

Invect, on February 19 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

As for the AM-SAR controversy, just bind primary fire to the mousewheel. Set your mousewheel to activate multiple times per click. Boom. Done.

Or should I say boomboomboomboomboom-

Cunning

[hawken00]

Autohotkey is banned by many developers now, careful with that