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[Mawnkey]

Charged T32 + KLA MIRV + Detonator = "WTFWHEREDIDMYHEALTHGO!_ OMG!!!1!"
Master ambushing people with that trifecta of death and you'll have them crying.

Edited by Mawnkey, August 07 2014 - 10:30 AM.

[Meraple]

Mawnkey, on August 07 2014 - 10:28 AM, said:

you'll have them crying.

I once poked out of a corner, hit a flying Zerker immediately with my KLA.
Got back into cover, poked out the moment my KLA came off of cooldown and hit the flying Zerker again.
Oh boy I bet he cried when I blitz'd his ass afterwards.

[OmegaNull]

Raider is amazing if you use it right. It is not a insta-kill mech, but if you land your secondary it will definitely hurt like hell. Positioning, movement, and aim are all very important with the raider. Especially timing.

[Infyrno]

m0bieduck, on August 06 2014 - 05:30 PM, said:

Dafuk_ Raider is almost as good as pred

Almost.  Lol

[Infyrno]

OmegaNull, on August 07 2014 - 08:50 PM, said:

Raider is amazing if you use it right. It is not a insta-kill mech, but if you land your secondary it will definitely hurt like hell. Positioning, movement, and aim are all very important with the raider. Especially timing.

Take his words, he knows his raiderp

Edited by Infyrno, August 07 2014 - 10:47 PM.

[MechFighter5e3bf9]

shh let everyone park their raiders then its an ocean of ovulating mechs for my slasher

(all its primaries are good and alphable

Edited by MechFighter5e3bf9, August 08 2014 - 08:50 AM.

[SoldierHobbes11]

Well, since you're not a beginner, I don't know if watching my raider video would help you much. Other than that follow the advice the rest of the guys are giving you. While I'm pretty good in a raider, most of the guys giving you advice are better than me. Main thing to remember is to ambush people. Also, the raider is the master of hit and run with blitz active. As for my internal set up, I run with a compressor, basic converter and an evasive device.

Edited by SoldierHobbes11, August 08 2014 - 07:11 PM.

[TheVulong]

I double Mer and Der's statements: KLA might be more versatile but compared to TOW or GL: too complicated and somewhat unreliable.

[Infyrno]

TheVulong, on August 09 2014 - 06:41 PM, said:

I double Mer and Der's statements: KLA might be more versatile but compared to TOW or GL: too complicated and somewhat unreliable.

it's a hit and miss weapon.  one you don't want to miss.

[Meraple]

Infyrno, on August 09 2014 - 07:17 PM, said:

TheVulong, on August 09 2014 - 06:41 PM, said:

I double Mer and Der's statements: KLA might be more versatile but compared to TOW or GL: too complicated and somewhat unreliable.

it's a hit and miss weapon.  one you don't want to miss.

Since when do you want to miss anything.

[Dohka]

Beefsweat, on August 06 2014 - 04:41 PM, said:

the KLA takes awhile to cool down because in MIRV-mode is the strongest secondary weapon in the game and it is generally a very versatile secondary weapon in the right hands

Personally i never mess with the MIRV. i know people say its better but the Nade has such a great AOE and a direct hit with it is deadly. Plus it doesnt fizzle out after a shot flight. Before you say im not using the mech correctly it has the highest K/D of all my mechs.

[TheVulong]

edit

Edited by TheVulong, August 11 2014 - 11:58 AM.

[BlindFireBarry]

As a rookie pilot who bought a Raider I'll confirm there is a bit of a learning curve. Its there and it sucks but from what I can tell its more than worth grinding your teeth for a few matches. Full of EU and a pack of A-Classes come bounding in what do you do_ Blitz and laugh as you leave the slow bastards in the dust. A C-class thinks you're a moron for attacking him from anywhere but behind, are you_ Nope, just Blitz and flank the fuzzy bunny. Anyone(A-Classes) who think they can escape you at critical health, can they_ No because you Blitz and find their hiding spot before they do.

Edited by BlindFireBarry, August 14 2014 - 11:30 PM.

[Alpha86]

I remember back when I was deciding on what to buy for my second mech, I was deciding between the zerker or the pred.
The zerker happened to be on test drive and I REALLY enjoyed playing it. Anyway, I think the Raider was also on that test drive and I thought that I'd give it a shot one day.

The burst damage alone with the reflak+MIRV had me shitting my pants because the kills kept racking up.

For that reason alone I am now saving up for a Raider.

#HCgrind

[LeeHarveyOz]

Source_Mystic, on August 06 2014 - 04:35 PM, said:

1: Why does the kla take so long to cool down_
2: does any one have some tips that could improve raider play _

1: Because it turns A's into mush.
2: Practise.

[marshrover]

Meraple, on August 07 2014 - 06:31 AM, said:

Beefsweat, on August 06 2014 - 04:41 PM, said:

the KLA takes awhile to cool down because in MIRV-mode is the strongest secondary weapon in the game

I think you mean the secondary weapon with the most burst.
Even if you meant that, though, it's false.
The Corsair-XT has the most burst out of all secondary weapons.

Even without counting the XT version, it barely has more burst than the TOW or GL while having alot more cooldown time.

Beefsweat, on August 06 2014 - 04:41 PM, said:

it is generally a very versatile secondary weapon in the right hands

Is it versatile_ Yes.
Would a TOW be better in most situations_ Yes.
The reason why I say TOW is better in most situations is, like DerMax said, miss a shot and you're dead most of the time.
If a target's in mid-air while you're on KLA mode, you either have to possess mad KLA skills or switch to MIRV which takes too long.
And with taking too long, I mean you'll be dead.

Look, it's versatile.
Thing is it takes alot of effort just to aim it in both modes, while the TOW is simply click and detonate.

There's a reason the TOW is on the starter mech - It's easy. The KLA is harder to use but if you learn how to use it it can be very powerful. The grenade mode  allows you to have long range abilities aswell and the MIRV is both very powerful and will not do splash damage so it wont hurt you if you are right in your targets face.

[Lasraik]

Just bought a Raider too.  Not too crazy about it but not sure if that's because I was so used to the Recruit mech.  Going to give it more time before I call it a disappointment.  Seems like it takes a while to get the hang of the mech and match it with your play style.

[TwentyFirstPilot]

Lasraik, on August 20 2014 - 09:19 AM, said:

Just bought a Raider too.  Not too crazy about it but not sure if that's because I was so used to the Recruit mech.  Going to give it more time before I call it a disappointment.  Seems like it takes a while to get the hang of the mech and match it with your play style.

Dump that Recruit. It'll teach you bad habits, and it's straight up boring to pilot.

[Moreapples]

marshrover, on August 18 2014 - 04:14 AM, said:

There's a reason the TOW is on the starter mech - It's easy. The KLA is harder to use but if you learn how to use it it can be very powerful.

Do you think I know nothing about the Raider's Corsair KLA_
I've gotten so good with the KLA mode I can hit aerial, airdodging targets with it, thanks to ALOT of playtime on it.

Don't try to teach me anything about the Corsair.

marshrover, on August 18 2014 - 04:14 AM, said:

The grenade mode  allows you to have long range abilities aswell

Have you even played Raider_
Hitting anything at long range with the KLA is impossible unless they don't know your shot is coming,
thanks to the low projectile speed.

If you're going to say you hit with it frequently at long range, you're obviously playing in low skill matches.



Not only are you trying to teach Raider to somebody with alot of playtime with it and who is actually good at it, you've missed my point.
I wasn't talking about the firepower.
I was talking about the concentration needed in order to hit aerial targets with the KLA;
concentration you could use for something else instead when using the TOW.

Edited by Moreapples, August 20 2014 - 02:24 PM.

[BlindFireBarry]

TwentyFirstPilot, on August 20 2014 - 01:40 PM, said:

Dump that Recruit. It'll teach you bad habits, and it's straight up boring to pilot.

You take that back good sir or madam. Fred is a fine mech and if you do not take back this slight against the Mightiest of Microwaves than I will be forced to demand satisfaction.