SS396, on October 28 2014 - 11:17 PM, said:
"His MMR prevents him from accessing any matches" That statement is false, if he chooses a mode by quickmatch it will eventually find a match for him, just because a high tier match (2200+) isn't immediately available does not mean its IMPOSSIBLE to get stuffed into one automagically by the quick match feature of the game AS YOU ASSERTED. Also, he could find scrims with several of his cohorts, or get onto private servers where the MMR restriction is turned off, or simply get into a party with a much lower player. So your choice of word "ANY" is simply incorrect rendering the statement completely false. See any means at least 1, so All I have to do is prove that he can infact get into one single game, which we all know is easily possible, Right_
You're correct in that I've used too sweeping a term re: “any”. You're less correct than you think, though. When your MMR climbs past the 2600 mark, quickmatch frequently fails to find matches. It simply times out. You quickmatch again, and it times out. You quickmatch a third time, and it times out. Forget searching for a specific gametype, you won't find games across gametypes
or across regions. These timeouts happen regardless of open, low-MMR matches. I have personally sat through quickmatch requeues for 30+ minutes.
As for scrims, Omni plays infrequently and typically shows only for matches (or for the occasional scrim request from friendly teams). Even when we were highly active, scrims weren't exactly abundant. If you think that finding scrims with your statistical outlier cohorts is simple, then you've never been a statistical outlier. Not in the good sense, anyway.
As for joining on friends, well, friends list. Also, joining on friends doesn't evade MMR restrictions. As for the private servers, people don't use them as frequently as you apparently think. In fact, people typically use them only for practice, scrims, or matches (which is their purpose).
So you see, even though it is technically possible for Dave to find games, it's far from frequently feasible. Also note that your demands upon Dave re: public servers – that he stick with the matchmaker or join through parties ( the latter rendered more difficult without a functional friends list) – result in much the same end: Dave will find himself on servers with lower-ranking players.
The only difference between your demands and Dave's “smurfing,” then, is that the former requires that Dave sit twiddling his thumbs while matchmaking continuously denies him games. And that's a ridiculous sentiment coming from someone whose patience couldn't withstand even a single match against Dave.
Now, I've humoured your attempt at playing semantics, but it's important that you realize that hedging a term (or failing to, in my case) is very different from equivocation (which is what you did). I'll explain that again here, since you seem intent on ignoring it:
Nept, on October 28 2014 - 09:00 PM, said:
What I said: There's nothing unfair about having superior skills in a video game (and using them). Mollycoddling community members by preventing them from playing against stronger opponents has nothing to do with "fairness"; it's simply a means of maximizing community retention . . . Now if you were attempting to argue that it wasn't "fun" for the weaker players, then you might find yourself with some footing. Even then, though, you're casting an overly-wide net by painting all players with the same negative nancy, woe is me attitude that you've assumed as of late.
What you had said: So yeah, someone with the in game skills to get 2797.2271728515625 MMR has to play smurf accounts and blame the matchmaker for not letting them into matches where his skill out weights everyone in the rest of the match. You think your piloting skills get lower if you start a new account_ Can't you see how completely fuzzy bunny unfair that is_
What you changed your position to: "it is not fun to be on the receiving end of that. And since you can't seem to understand that, it must mean that you've never experienced that before, but just think about how you would feel"
The moment you understand that little fact, we can move onto another discussion.