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[The_Silencer]

That weapon scares the fuzzy bunny out of me each time I find one in the game. Perhaps is it a little too overpowered at this moment_

There's a poll.. go it.

Edited by The_Silencer, November 12 2012 - 10:31 AM.

[Entity]

I would say it's slightly on the "too good" side, but to be fair, it'll stop being overpowered once everyone got theirs.

[Juodvarnis]

I never met anyone with it and personally don't have it yet. Although i did get killed by "Point-D turret" but i assume it's the basic machine gun turrets

[Juodvarnis]

Ok, i just been in a match with a couple of Vulcan Assaults, and its definitely op, especially with their ability to ignore heat. The vulcan out damages my flak cannon point blank...

[AsianJoyKiller]

The gun itself isn't OP.
However, sticking that thing on highly mobile A-classes is a really bad idea. That gun is supposed to shred targets at close range, and when you can't get away from the mech using it, it become ridiculous. This is why it works for the Brawler. You can get away from them.
On the Assault B-class, it's also bad because the Assault is mobile enough to be a nuisance, tanky enough to hold up for a while, has a rather nice specialty weapon, and their ability is a coolant, which nullifies what should be one of the Vulcan's main weaknesses, which is heat.

[Elix]

It's also apparently not supposed to be on the Assault, which handles that balance issue.

[Juodvarnis]

Honestly i feel that the Automatic guns should be mech weight class specific: A-class would get Submachine cannon. B-class Assault rifle,    C-Class would get vulcan. Also the SA hawkins would go to the more range centric classes like sharpshooter and definitely NOT on brawler.

[TheChaffeemancer]

Juodvarnis, on November 11 2012 - 08:33 AM, said:

Honestly i feel that the Automatic guns should be mech weight class specific: A-class would get Submachine cannon. B-class Assault rifle, C-Class would get vulcan. Also the SA hawkins would go to the more range centric classes like sharpshooter and definitely NOT on brawler.

No, Kiwi loves his SA Hawkins on his brawler.

[Juodvarnis]

TheChaffeemancer, on November 11 2012 - 08:37 AM, said:

Juodvarnis, on November 11 2012 - 08:33 AM, said:

Honestly i feel that the Automatic guns should be mech weight class specific: A-class would get Submachine cannon. B-class Assault rifle, C-Class would get vulcan. Also the SA hawkins would go to the more range centric classes like sharpshooter and definitely NOT on brawler.

No, Kiwi loves his SA Hawkins on his brawler.

Really_ Why__

[Timber_Wolf]

The gun is fine, it's just the assault that's a little too good with it because of his ability.
Heavier classes are fine with it, and a B class rocking hellfire missiles would probably be okay with it as well.  As for the berserker having it, it's probably a bit too good as well, with the current state of balance.  But, I still think the most imba thing at the moment are all the HEAT infiltrators dominating the scoreboard at the moment.

[defekt]

The gun is fine but it should be something for the C-class mechs to look forward to having.  Putting it on an A/B-class is just silly.

[TheChaffeemancer]

Juodvarnis, on November 11 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

TheChaffeemancer, on November 11 2012 - 08:37 AM, said:

Juodvarnis, on November 11 2012 - 08:33 AM, said:

Honestly i feel that the Automatic guns should be mech weight class specific: A-class would get Submachine cannon. B-class Assault rifle, C-Class would get vulcan. Also the SA hawkins would go to the more range centric classes like sharpshooter and definitely NOT on brawler.

No, Kiwi loves his SA Hawkins on his brawler.

Really_ Why__

It's probably more to the point of the fact that it can be tough getting in Flak range on maps like Sahara. Kiwi's been trying to reach 20 with his Brawler to get access to the Vulcan (which is a stupid mechanic and needs to go away). The Hawkins does let you act more as a medium range workhorse on wider areas where you'd be less useful. A better solution would be to get a weapon that better plays to the Brawler while retaining some medium range power. We don't have one at the moment so Kiwi's willing to settle for the Hawkins. An assault rifle or SMC would just make the brawler a fat Assault with a bad ability.

Also Kiwi has an autocannon fetish.

[Entity]

AsianJoyKiller, on November 11 2012 - 08:20 AM, said:

This is why it works for the Brawler. You can get away from them.

Few things can run from my brawler. With the right optimization and internals, the thing becomes fairly mobile.

[AsianJoyKiller]

Entity, on November 11 2012 - 09:20 AM, said:

AsianJoyKiller, on November 11 2012 - 08:20 AM, said:

This is why it works for the Brawler. You can get away from them.

Few things can run from my brawler. With the right optimization and internals, the thing becomes fairly mobile.

No doubt, you can get some good mileage out of a Brawler.
But they're a lot easier to get away from than a B-class and trying to run away from an A-class is just not going to work.

[Hotel6]

entered turret mode...
Vulcan + sabot to the knee
oh gawd !
i think dem Brawler should have the Vulcan

[AsianJoyKiller]

Hotel6, on November 11 2012 - 09:34 AM, said:

entered turret mode...
Vulcan + sabot to the knee
oh gawd !
i think dem Brawler should have the Vulcan

It does, but it's restricted to Lvl. 20.
Which is stupid.
Very stupid.

[PiVoR]

AsianJoyKiller, on November 11 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

It does, but it's restricted to Lvl. 20.
Which is stupid.
Very stupid.

Its beta, i dont think this exp system is final, and ability to switch gun at final level as well.

[AsianJoyKiller]

PiVoR, on November 11 2012 - 09:56 AM, said:

AsianJoyKiller, on November 11 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

It does, but it's restricted to Lvl. 20.
Which is stupid.
Very stupid.

Its beta, i dont think this exp system is final, and ability to switch gun at final level as well.

I'm aware it's beta.
I'm aware changes are not final.
That doesn't make it any less stupid of a mechanic.
I'm just making sure my opinion that it is a stupid mechanic is known, so that the devs are seeing that people don't like this sort of thing, and enact changes because it is beta, and that's the best time to do it.

[D3thpool]

I do think too that the mechanic to unlock an extra weapon on max level is kinda stupid,
why not having it in the chooseable loadout from the getgo_

[Female]

Half of the deathmatches I've played I've won.

Mostly because of the Point D Vulcan.