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[The_Silencer]

Heheheh.. may I pull you guys down a little bit from that ego constructed realm in which you seem to be flipping your custom Hawken pre-OB1 extasis byproduct based... cloud_

Lemme explain.. How the hell man can determine on whether such an event -unworthy of any public award or, IMHO, a banality- occurs due to connectivity issues, atmospheric conditions, compulsive Garage matters or just due to that hypothetical "ragequit" which seems to be feeding such a bizarre conception of yours about what awards and prizes should "whatever" in Hawken.

Maybe some few new chunks of code in order to report preys about their prosecutors on radar could be good idea too. Although something says me that this might well been considered up there already.

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuh to you.. Darkpulse..  lol

P.S. Show Level&Rank info on players in  the TAB's window and let noobies to ragequit if required.. .)

[Phaaze]

[The_Silencer]

*Meh.. I was just testing my poetry skills on here.. lol.
I won't anymore

[DarkPulse]

The_Silencer, on November 15 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

Lemme explain.. How the hell man can determine on whether such an event -unworthy of any public award or, IMHO, a banality- occurs due to connectivity issues, atmospheric conditions, compulsive Garage matters or just due to that hypothetical "ragequit" which seems to be feeding such a bizarre conception of yours about what awards and prizes should "whatever" in Hawken.

The game's timeout delay for a connection is something like 30 seconds. Just shorten the "Ragequit detection" to like 15 seconds. This way, no false ragequits.

The_Silencer, on November 15 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

Maybe some few new chunks of code in order to report preys about their prosecutors on radar could be good idea too. Although something says me that this might well been considered up there already.

IIRC, if someone kills you at least five times (in a row_) they already get tagged as your Nemesis. You even get extra XP (75 XP, to be exact) if you kill them.

Edited by DarkPulse, November 15 2012 - 05:03 PM.

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[BeefC4ke]

AsianJoyKiller, on November 12 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

1st Place = Winning
2nd Place = Not winning
Not winning = Losing

I don't know, the message seems accurate to me.

AsianJoyKiller, on November 14 2012 - 07:20 AM, said:

Participation Awards: Because apparently you don't have any sense of self worth and need mommy to tell you it's okay.

AsianJoyKiller, on November 14 2012 - 09:54 AM, said:

The_Silencer, on November 14 2012 - 09:34 AM, said:

Additionally players scoring positions 2 and 3 should receive a message beneath the main msg too..

They didn't win.
Why to they deserve recognition_

'Nuff Said!

[Sinj]

Either you win or you love there is no in between, if you feel you did a decent job then pat your self on the back just don't expect any recognition on screen to make ya feel better about almost being a winner.

[Dreizehn]

I feel there is some validity to this complaint. In a Deathmatch, there's like 1 winner and how many losers_ Is that how you want to look at it_ It's not even a zero-sum game anymore, its a negative-sum game.

Where in team games, assuming teams are even - half loses, half wins. Zero-sum.

Having a placement message, or if they just cut the you win/you lose fuzzy bunny and just showed the scoreboard might be better.

[Subdivision]

Surely getting better and working to be on the top is something to actively work towards and aspire to_ Not something that is sugar coated along the way to make you feel ok with your sub-par performance. If I don't win a game, its my fault and I have to deal with that. Its that simple and I learnt this a while ago, I just say 'Cool! I need to learn some stuff and get better!' Keeps me interested and occupied in game. If it is really such a BIG deal to people then surely the reward when you reach first place is that much sweeter_ No_ People get too much stuff handed out to them and free these days, try earning something, it feels good when you do.

Dreizehn, on November 17 2012 - 11:48 PM, said:

I feel there is some validity to this complaint. In a Deathmatch, there's like 1 winner and how many losers_ Is that how you want to look at it_ It's not even a zero-sum game anymore, its a negative-sum game.

Where in team games, assuming teams are even - half loses, half wins. Zero-sum.

Having a placement message, or if they just cut the you win/you lose fuzzy bunny and just showed the scoreboard might be better.

Talking about deathmatch, it says 'You lose' or whatever. Ok, so you came in third, therefore you lose to two people and win against the other nine! It's not a negative sum game, its a zero-sum again. Top equals bottom, Second top equals second bottom and so forth. Sorry but if you didn't come first, you didn't win the match by any means, but you didn't lose it entirely unless you come in last obviously.The game should always recognise the winning player, saying they shouldn't is like saying the Olympics shouldn't have medal ceremonies. Why play the game_ Sure its fun but what are you achieving each game_ What are you progressing towards_ Another mech_ Ok, and what after that, the game needs targets and goals for each game as well as for your overall progression. By working on the smaller game by game stuff, it helps you attain the larger goals laid out before you which are much harder to tackle without that break down or help.

Edited by Subdivision, November 18 2012 - 02:13 AM.

[Borderlands25]

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Talking about deathmatch, it says 'You lose' or whatever. Ok, so you came in third, therefore you lose to two people and win against the other nine! It's not a negative sum game, its a zero-sum again.

Yes but would you like to have the same message saying " You lose" or whatever, Instead have a more constructive message that make them want to play and achive more_ Have somthink like "You lost the match, Better luck next time" Somthink along them lines. Make the person on the other side feel like hes/shes done their best and not make him/her fell like fuzzy bunny.

Edited by Borderlands25, November 18 2012 - 09:21 AM.

[Borderlands25]

The_Silencer, on November 15 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

*Meh.. I was just testing my poetry skills on here.. lol.
I won't anymore

You made a fair point though

[Subdivision]

Borderlands25, on November 18 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

Yes but would you like to have the same message saying " You lose" or whatever, Instead have a more constructive message that make them want to play and achive more_ Have somthink like "You lost the match, Better luck next time" Somthink along them lines. Make the person on the other side feel like hes/shes done their best and not make him/her fell like fuzzy bunny.

No I'd rather have You lose. 'Better luck next time' is so patronising. You should know yourself if you have done your best. You shouldn't need pampering. A single game isn't even that big a deal. There isn't money at steak or anything like that. You don't actually lose anything. The type of message you are suggesting isn't 'constructive'. A constructive comment would be 'work on your aim' or something like that. Better luck next time is a fairly empty sentiment coming from generically programmed in messages in game. Nobody is actually saying that to you, just like nobody is actually telling you you've lost. If anything, it should just say 'So-and-so wins' to avoid all this needless controversy.

Edited by Subdivision, November 18 2012 - 10:01 AM.

[3Jane]

Of course there's money in steak.

[Subdivision]

At first I thought you said:

3Jane, on November 18 2012 - 10:12 AM, said:

Of course there's money at steak.

So got confused, what money_
Then I'd realised I misread and it was actually:

3Jane, on November 18 2012 - 10:12 AM, said:

Of course there's money in steak.

Now I'm still confused haha

[3Jane]

People gotta eat D:

Edit: Match ending screen for DM really does need some work (:

Edited by 3Jane, November 18 2012 - 12:27 PM.

[DarkPulse]

Subdivision, on November 18 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

No I'd rather have You lose. 'Better luck next time' is so patronising.

Oh, other games were much more blunt about your failure, back in the day...















Last one gives me chills to this day.

Edited by DarkPulse, November 18 2012 - 12:39 PM.

[D20Face]

I do think that second and third deserve special mention, at least on their screen.

They're generally the only competition with whoever is in first. Everybody else is fodder.

[Dread_Lord_Pitr]

Either you win or you lose.
Players that feel they should be catered to or pampered because they lost really need to stop playing competitive games.

I love what George Carlin said on this :

[Borderlands25]

Subdivision, on November 18 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

Borderlands25, on November 18 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

Yes but would you like to have the same message saying " You lose" or whatever, Instead have a more constructive message that make them want to play and achive more_ Have somthink like "You lost the match, Better luck next time" Somthink along them lines. Make the person on the other side feel like hes/shes done their best and not make him/her fell like fuzzy bunny.

No I'd rather have You lose. 'Better luck next time' is so patronising. You should know yourself if you have done your best. You shouldn't need pampering. A single game isn't even that big a deal. There isn't money at steak or anything like that. You don't actually lose anything. The type of message you are suggesting isn't 'constructive'. A constructive comment would be 'work on your aim' or something like that. Better luck next time is a fairly empty sentiment coming from generically programmed in messages in game. Nobody is actually saying that to you, just like nobody is actually telling you you've lost. If anything, it should just say 'So-and-so wins' to avoid all this needless controversy.

You may think so but there are more less competitive players out there that would prefer a softer let down rather than "you lose" Look at Halo 3, At the end of the match it would say Red or Blue Team wins, Game over. Its not directed at the player personaly where as You lose is.

Edited by Borderlands25, November 20 2012 - 01:29 PM.

[The_Silencer]

Hey naysayers! .. Have you played the CB3_ Yes_ Then eat that! lol

Now seriously.. Very glad with the cool changes!