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[Valimer]

FF would def change the dynamics of battle.

 

pucks would basically be useless

[Hellzilla]

No friendly fire is one reason I chose to play this FPS game. You play other friendly fire games and there's endless grief and paranoia. I dare say no self damage would be nice too. Allies love jumping in front of their Grenadiers.

[dorobo]

and? this just means the troll entirely accomplished his mission of being a troll.

 

btw does MWO has FF? It should for sure if it hasn't 

[reVelske]

If CS can have FF without any significant issue, Hawken can manage it just fine when it has a significantly longer TTK.

 

That said, I prefer things as is, because I'm a senile old man with a strong aversion to change.

Edited by reVelske, 18 May 2015 - 10:28 PM.

[Panzermanathod]

I don't think "If X had Y then Y can also work in Z" arguments should be used.

 

I could say all fighting games should have Instant Kills because Guilty Gear has it, or that all mech games should have heavy emphasis on customizing because Armored Core games did it, or that all 2D shooters should have naked men jabbing you with another naked man from a codpiece because Cho Aniki had that.

 

But I shouldn't. Whether FF works in other shooters is kind of a moot point.

[reVelske]

But it was not a simple "if X has Y then Y can also work in Z", I used to relation of TTK as a base for my theory. If a fighting game used IK in a similar manner as GG where there are severe downsides to it whilst the game maintained similar levels of mobility as GG, then I'd be all for it. Hawken may have larger models resulting easier FF, not to mention AOEs, but its significantly longer TTK and ability to self-heal in comparison to CS more than offsets it, this is not to mention how a dead/dying player due to TK has far more severe consequence in CS than it would in Hawken, as players do not respawn in a round, and TKer is removed as well.

Edited by reVelske, 18 May 2015 - 11:11 PM.

[WillyW]

I don't think "If X had Y then Y can also work in Z" arguments should be used.

 

I could say all fighting games should have Instant Kills because Guilty Gear has it, or that all mech games should have heavy emphasis on customizing because Armored Core games did it, or that all 2D shooters should have naked men jabbing you with another naked man from a codpiece because Cho Aniki had that.

 

But I shouldn't. Whether FF works in other shooters is kind of a moot point.

 

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[Amish_Kommander]

no because its bad enough we have those who like to exploit and not give two shits about the game. now youre giving them the option of killing their own team and that would cause Hawken to drop in player count.