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[crockrocket]

Didn't see this announced anywhere, but there is now a server browser on the playhawken site. Currently broken for XBox, Now works for Xbox, and works for PC and PS4. Not as much functionality as herokuapp but cool to finally see some numbers on the console playerbase (~1400 on PS4 as of writing this).

 

9/10/16; 2:30 AM PST: PS4: 261; XBox: 123; PC: 90;;  Of course not prime time but still

Edited by crockrocket, 10 September 2016 - 01:36 AM.

[ticklemyiguana]

First, that's actually quite cool. Second, sort of lol @ using the old map names.

[BlackWarGreymon]

That's kinda cool, though I remember when Hawken had a peak player base of around 4000 on PC; seems like even with XBone numbers added in, the launch has been a damp squib.

 

Where is the advertising to pull in the players? If the numbers don't improve then the game will just go the same way it did before- down the pan...

[talon70]

It needs to be an in game feature along with the server browser.

 

edit: you cant see players or mmr level. and with new servers all labeled NAm regardless of location, it has little purpose.

Edited by talon70, 24 July 2016 - 12:32 PM.

[Anichkov3]

https://www.playhawk...ver-status/xbox

https://www.playhawk...tus/playstation

https://www.playhawk...erver-status/pc

 

xBox link to the page with the title wrong 

Edited by Anichkov3, 24 July 2016 - 12:29 PM.

[DerMax]

Can't sort by mmr = unusable.

[Hecatoncheires]

Hahaha, PS4 has nearly ten times the number of players and servers on PC.

[Aregon]

Is this why Shadeness had to delete his own?

[TheButtSatisfier]

Is this why Shadeness had to delete his own?

 

You mean this? It's still online.

 

Shadeness took down the leaderboard. The player profile pages are still active.

[crockrocket]

Is this why Shadeness had to delete his own?

I believe the leaderboard going down was just server cost?

[DemitronPrime]

yup... He stated the serverlist etc will stay up as long as its free....

[Aregon]

You mean this? It's still online.

 

Shadeness took down the leaderboard. The player profile pages are still active.

 

I believe the leaderboard going down was just server cost?

 

Oh right. Nevermind~

[StubbornPuppet]

Now that I can finally log in to the forums again...

I was going to post this as well.  I found it up at the upper right of the playhawken.com site and was fascinated.

 

I am pretty disappointed to see, during prime gaming hours in the US, there are 928 players on PS4, 863 on Xbone and 110 on PC.  Considering that consoles always have about 10X the number of players as PC on any multiplatform game, it's kind of sad to see that the numbers are right on target with that figure... when the PC game has been considered a ghost-town for years now.  Any game with under 1000 players during this time of day, just a few weeks after its release is... disheartening.

[ATX22]

So not quite to 1K per console, but fairly close durning prime time hours, looks like the playstation is more active during off-hours, it almost has 500 gamers connected, xbox and PC look like ghost towns right now..

 

PS 491 Players, Xbox 207 Players, & PC 112 Players

 

I hope for Hawken's sake that they can grow those numbers and that there are some deep-pocketed whales in there somewhere.

[StubbornPuppet]

Any game that is this new... and has any hopes for survival should have at least 5000 players (at a minimum) on each platform during peak times.  1000 is the point where a game starts to get labeled as "dead".

 

I mean, this game is new, free and exciting looking - so what has gone so wrong in the last two weeks that have led to such a poor turnout?  Is it bad marketing?  Bad timing?  Or is it actually getting the downloads (something I can't see) and people are 'nope-ing' out quickly?

[BlackWarGreymon]

Just a bump to keep this on the front page.

 

Sad to see that console numbers are now down around ~300-400 on average at peak times ( evenings ), 100-150 for PC.

 

What a waste of a game.

[ARCH3TYP3]

It seems like a bad sign that there's only 500-600 players across all platforms at this point, with numbers seeming to slowly taper off.
I hope the revenue generated will actually justify continued development long enough to get a PC relaunch with some positively received content.
Still hoping.

[BlackWarGreymon]

Well, a week or so later and now it's down to around 200-250 on xbone and ps4, less than 100 on PC.

 

At this rate the devs might as well enable cross-platform play, just so we have enough players to fill half a dozen servers- the terrible lag and pings should help level the playing field, skills wise. 

 

/not sarcasm

[Silverfire]

Well, a week or so later and now it's down to around 200-250 on xbone and ps4, less than 100 on PC.

 

At this rate the devs might as well enable cross-platform play, just so we have enough players to fill half a dozen servers- the terrible lag and pings should help level the playing field, skills wise. 

 

/not sarcasm

 

[BlackWarGreymon]

I wasn't looking for approval, though seeing how dead quiet the forum has been the last few weeks, if not months, and how empty the servers are, I think it's safe to say I'm not the only person who feels this way. 

[Hyginos]

I wasn't looking for approval, though seeing how dead quiet the forum has been the last few weeks, if not months, and how empty the servers are, I think it's safe to say I'm not the only person who feels this way. 

 

 

You can't "Just enable cross platform play" any more than you can "just port to UE4" or "just launch a global communications network". It takes time and money.

 

Plus console and PC are on different versions right now. Even if they have a big button they can push to instantly enable cross platform they would need to bring the platforms to parity first.

[TheButtSatisfier]

At this rate the devs might as well enable cross-platform play, just so we have enough players to fill half a dozen servers- the terrible lag and pings should help level the playing field, skills wise. 

 

How much time do you realistically think it would take the devs to implement this suggestion?

 

Additionally, why do you think that doing so would be a better use of their time than adding customization back into the console version, switching to DX11, optimizing netcode, balancing the console verisons, creating new in-game assets, focusing on anti-cheat, reworking the progression system, and cleaning up map geometry?

[BlackWarGreymon]

I do read the updates, I am well aware of how much work there needs to be done to get PC and console to parity, seeing as that is the long-term goal essentially right now. I was more speaking rhetorically- by the time they do implement all those changes and improvements, there won't be anyone left to enjoy them on any of the platforms.

 

Don't take everything people say as literal ;)

[TheButtSatisfier]

I do read the updates, I am well aware of how much work there needs to be done to get PC and console to parity, seeing as that is the long-term goal essentially right now. I was more speaking rhetorically- by the time they do implement all those changes and improvements, there won't be anyone left to enjoy them on any of the platforms.

 

Don't take everything people say as literal ;)

 

Duh, everyone else was totally being rhetorical too.

[TheButtSatisfier]

Well, a week or so later and now it's down to around 200-250 on xbone and ps4, less than 100 on PC.

 

At this rate the devs might as well enable cross-platform play, just so we have enough players to fill half a dozen servers- the terrible lag and pings should help level the playing field, skills wise. 

 

/not sarcasm

 

I do read the updates, I am well aware of how much work there needs to be done to get PC and console to parity, seeing as that is the long-term goal essentially right now. I was more speaking rhetorically- by the time they do implement all those changes and improvements, there won't be anyone left to enjoy them on any of the platforms.

 

Do you even know what you're writing typing when you write type it? <--- I clearly don't

 

Don't take everything people say as literal ;)

 

You are the source of the confusion, not us.

Edited by TheButtSatisfier, 08 September 2016 - 12:55 PM.

[BlackWarGreymon]

Do you even know what you're writing typing when you write type it? <--- I clearly don't

 

 

You are the source of the confusion, not us.

 

I was being not sarcastic about the ping / lag / hit-reg issue, I thought that much was obvious since obviously the devs can't just push a magic button to enable cross-platform play.

 

My ( not ) sarcasm is clearly strong for you, don't feel bad....

 

:D

[DemitronPrime]

Do you even know what you're writing typing when you write type it? <--- I clearly don't

 

 

You are the source of the confusion, not us.

thank you.....

 

thank you so much...

 

for saying what we were ALL thinking lol

[BlackWarGreymon]

thank you.....

 

thank you so much...

 

for saying what we were ALL thinking lol

 

That's the trouble, you see one thing and think another. As I've already stated, and as the devs have stated, cross-platform play is a very difficult beast to make work, especially since PC and console will not be at feature-parity for a long, long time, if ever. There is obviously no magic button they can press to enable it right away. 

 

As I'm sure you also know, PC gamers tend to perform much better on average than console users, simply due to keyboard and mouse being superior for FPS style games- hence my joke ( it should have been obvious to anyone with a modicum of common sense...  ) about the terrible lag and ping issues helping to level the playing field if cross-platform was enabled.

 

I can't help it if you can't grasp basic humour when it's mixed in with wishful thinking that is obviously not intended to be taken seriously. 

[Silverfire]

I'm sorry we're too stupid to understand your brand of humor, on behalf of everyone in Nept's lil gang.

Edited by Silverfire, 09 September 2016 - 08:10 PM.

[coldform]

I'm sorry we're too stupid to understand your brand of humor, on behalf of everyone in Nept's lil gang.

'Lil gang'?? How dare you desecrate the high tier cabal !!

[Silverfire]

'Lil gang'?? How dare you desecrate the high tier cabal !!

 

You're not even 2k MMR coldform

 

And we're not really a lil gang, you're right.

 

we're a whole fuzzy bunnyng continent

[BlackWarGreymon]

^The EU servers need to be renamed to 'Lagistan'.

[TheButtSatisfier]

And we're not really a lil gang, you're right.

 

we're a whole fuzzy bunnyng continent

 

How the hell did I miss that wonderful post?

Edited by TheButtSatisfier, 10 September 2016 - 02:14 PM.

[DemitronPrime]

^The EU servers need to be renamed to 'Lagistan'.

 I was playing on EU the other day...

 

and had NO problems... FROM OCEANIA!!!!!

 

so please, stop complaining

[Meraple]

 I was playing on EU the other day...

 

and had NO problems... FROM OCEANIA!!!!!

 

so please, stop complaining

That you have no issues says nothing about others.

I live pretty close to the EU servers and I have more package loss than when I connect to servers in the US.

[DallasCreeper]

It seems odd that in most cases, people in Europe get worse server performance on EU Servers than people playing on them from other regions, ex. North America. 

[DerMax]

It seems odd that in most cases, people in Europe get worse server performance on EU Servers than people playing on them from other regions, ex. North America. 

Yeah, would be cool if someone from NA recorded a similar video, just to compare.

[CraftyDus]

me and hohohosanta jumped into a hosed eu server one day last month

normally 100-150ms went to 350-400+,  and we just bailed

[BlackWarGreymon]

Sorry Demi, you're about the only person who hasn't had issues with the EU servers- the fact there are multiple threads discussing the problems, along with DerMax's video showing the issue being related to certain Gamersfirst servers, would indicate that I am validated in being fed up and vocal about the issue.

 

Bad play experience causes people to get fed up, so they stop playing- this is easily demonstrated by the fact the player base on PC has dropped from 300-400 down to 100-150, over the last few months. 

 

This BS situation cannot be allowed to continue if the game is to survive, on PC atleast- console numbers seem to have stabilised around ~300-400 at peak times, which is pretty tragic too, but hey-ho we all saw that coming ( apart form the devs I guess ).

[DemitronPrime]

Sorry Demi, you're about the only person who hasn't had issues with the EU servers- the fact there are multiple threads discussing the problems, along with DerMax's video showing the issue being related to certain Gamersfirst servers, would indicate that I am validated in being fed up and vocal about the issue.

 

Bad play experience causes people to get fed up, so they stop playing- this is easily demonstrated by the fact the player base on PC has dropped from 300-400 down to 100-150, over the last few months. 

 

This BS situation cannot be allowed to continue if the game is to survive, on PC atleast- console numbers seem to have stabilised around ~300-400 at peak times, which is pretty tragic too, but hey-ho we all saw that coming ( apart form the devs I guess ).

 

That you have no issues says nothing about others.

I live pretty close to the EU servers and I have more package loss than when I connect to servers in the US.

 

 

These are both valid... I am NOT saying the servers are DECENT, im merely saying that EU is no different ping wise to NA for ME...

from oceania, we all know the server quality has dropped of late... no argument there

 

I get 200ish to NA

210 to EU

40 Sydney