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[SolarEklipze]

I am really, really close to going 100% Linux on my next build.  I already have Arch installed on my laptop, and have been using it as a 100% Linux machine for awhile now.  I think that, likely, the only game keeping me from making the full switch is HAWKEN.  So, 2 questions:

 

1) Any chance the new developers will add support for Linux?  I know this game uses DirectX, but with the Vulkan API coming up, a switch away from Microsoft's proprietary standards may be wise...  There's also Valve's ToGL that converts D3D9c code to OpenGL, making the process easier.  I know either of these is unlikely, but hey, the new devs seem cool.

 

2) Does anyone currently have the game running in Wine?  If so, could you please share the Wine version, your distribution, your hardware, and any tweaks required to get it working?  The WineDB has some info, but the reports seem pretty old.

[EM1O]

My fave is any breed of RedHat or rpm-based distro, preferably Scientific Linux. The only reason I am now running Windows 7 is for gaming. It is just too tedious to spend time tweeking settings and messing with vi editing, or borking my harddrive with attempts to run a Virtual Box build with any sort of comparable performance. Bear in mind I'm a retired professional driver and retired navy light-bulb technician--not a geek.

An all-Windoze box is just easier all around. And this, realistically, may be the reason this game may never see a Linux port.

It would be nice, and I would toss M$ in a heartbeat if it happened, but I just personally doubt it.

O.

Edited by em1o, 06 April 2015 - 10:07 AM.

[Amidatelion]

In short, no.

 

It would be more difficult to code the entire thing up in Linux than it would be to port to Unreal 4.

 

Ashfire I think ran Hawken on Wine for a bit before moving it to a VM.

 

You're a gamer. 100% Linux is pointless. Dual-booting is stupidly simple these days, and there are ways to get Windows keys for pants-on-head cheap. One of the core concepts of private-use Linux is that it should be as easy to use as possible. Know what's easier than running Wine or a VM? Dual-booting.

[EM1O]

^--<< Yes. Unless you're splitting it on 2 hdds, load up Linux, and then discover on the first reboot that you somehow had your windows MBR partition on the drive you just pumped CentOS into. And for some ungodly reason the BackUp/Restore thingy keeps insisting on using the original location on the CentOS drive.

2 days later, I have a nice new Windows (1 hdd) install, and have become convinced that no gnus is good gnus.

maybe i'll try again next year, after the toxic shock has worn off.

:P

 

btw: pay for software? look closely at the avatar to your left.

Edited by em1o, 06 April 2015 - 11:03 AM.

[Elite_is_salty]

I prevented MYSELF from going full linux for HAWKEN.

[Ashfire908]

You're a gamer. 100% Linux is pointless. Dual-booting is stupidly simple these days, and there are ways to get Windows keys for pants-on-head cheap. One of the core concepts of private-use Linux is that it should be as easy to use as possible. Know what's easier than running Wine or a VM? Dual-booting.

Some people don't have the option of dual booting.

[leviestrada]

well now that we are talking about this, also a mac version would not be bad due to the low requirements that hawken has it could also be good to have this game for mac (considering multiple systems support)

[Niels]

Not sure this is a good idea... Because if I can launch HAWKEN from Linux, I will lose the strongest deterrent (rebooting) I have to playing HAWKEN when I should be working.

 

Kidding, of course. I support this, but realistically it won't happen.

[DreamedArtist]

You're a gamer. 100% Linux is pointless.

LOL Linux will take over almost everything uses it and steam making a move to linux plus almost all pc game devs making linux ports now. Thanks for the laugh <3

[BluetoothBoy]

I haven't tried it myself, but I believe it should work. HAWKEN runs on DX11 IIRC, and DirectX (usually) doesn't compete with Wine too much. Winetricks usually can fix most issues that pop up.

 

If you'd like, Solar, I can give it a go myself, see how it runs. Let me know.

[Ashfire908]

I haven't tried it myself, but I believe it should work. HAWKEN runs on DX11 IIRC, and DirectX (usually) doesn't compete with Wine too much. Winetricks usually can fix most issues that pop up.
 
If you'd like, Solar, I can give it a go myself, see how it runs. Let me know.

Hawken uses DX9. It runs acceptably under Wine. I used to have a setup but I deleted it cause I'm dumb and I don't remember really what I did last time. I believe it was fairly straightforward to set up though.

[Amidatelion]

LOL Linux will take over almost everything uses it and steam making a move to linux plus almost all pc game devs making linux ports now. Thanks for the laugh <3

 

 

Ladies and gentlemen, the perils of fanaticism.

[Niels]

Freddi Fish ! And on Linux too

[BluetoothBoy]

Hawken uses DX9. It runs acceptably under Wine. I used to have a setup but I deleted it cause I'm dumb and I don't remember really what I did last time. I believe it was fairly straightforward to set up though.

Ah, you're right, it is DX9 (dunno where DX11 came from). Good to know that it runs. I guess I won't bother setting it up, then.

[SolarEklipze]

Well this got toxic quickly. Thanks for that everyone.

For the people hating on Linux:
It's not a lack of money that I want to use Linux. I enjoy tweaking my OS, to me it's interesting and makes more sense. Running Windows in a dual boot wouldn't be favorable either.

It's good to hear that HAWKEN was running in Wine at one point. If HAWKEN was ported to UE4, I could see a Linux port being possible. Who knows. I'm about to download it on my laptop and try it out, I'll post the results. It won't be the same hardware, but it's better than nothing.

[Neraste]

I'm sure it would be a lot of work to port Hawken to Linux (and moving from DirectX to OpenGL? I guess), but it would be just fantastic. Hawken is one of the last games I have which make me to boot on Windows.

[SolarEklipze]

I gave it a shot, played a little on my laptop with trackpad. Surprisingly, it worked great using wine 1.7.4-csmt. It would be cool to not use wine, but I'm not encountering any real issues. Cool!

[BluetoothBoy]

I gave it a shot, played a little on my laptop with trackpad. Surprisingly, it worked great using wine 1.7.4-csmt. It would be cool to not use wine, but I'm not encountering any real issues. Cool!

How's the performance, comparatively to Windows? Or do you have no way of telling?

[SolarEklipze]

Not sure, but it was a little bit choppy with a Nvidia 860M on medium 32bit. I'll try 64 on low and see if I can get a nice fps.

[Draigun]

The Vulkan API will really push gaming on Linux considerably. Slowly, there are efforts that are giving rise to Linux and open-source initiatives. VR to a living room media center, these appliances are all running Linux. You shouldn't make a fool out of yourself by proclaiming gaming on Linux is non-existent. It's quite the opposite since companies are starting to see the benefits of open-source software.

 

Windows is the majority platform for gaming at this moment, but in the near future, it will likely be feasible in only enterprise and business class fields, since that is where Microsoft's profit generally ends up. Even then though, Linux still has a major role in the same field that Microsoft's profit looms over. NVIDIA has started to update their drivers in a more timely manner for Linux distributions; the Vulkan API on Linux will offer more flexibility when comparing to DX12; AMD built Mantle with full support for Linux out of the box; and the SteamOS is based on Linux.

 

Add all of these facts together, and you'll start to see where it's all going.