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The "WT(Fudge) does that mean_" Guide
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Suggested Ideas:
To save yourself from possible embarrassment I've listed the names of ideas that have already been suggested, if one sounds similar to what you are thinking PLEASE, PLEASE, use "search" (ctrl + F) to find it and make sure what you are suggesting is not the same.
Debatable/Iffy
Repair kit/Nanobots/Repair drones/etc
Heavy/Light/Other Armor
Weapon Buffs/Upgrades
Mini nuke or high explosive (Concussive Blast_)
Magnet Gun
Defensive
Counter-Measures/Chaff/Flares *NOTABLE*
Targeting-Scrambler
Invisibility/Camouflage *NOTABLE*
Anti-Missile Cage
Anti-Missile System
Energy Barrier Generator
Disposable Armor Paneling
Liquid Coolant Suit
Secondary Shield
Hunker (Energy Shield)
Tortoise Shield
Hologram/Decoy
Shock Barrier
Offensive
Attack/Support Drones
Proximity Mines *NOTABLE*
Mini-Turrets
Hacking Device
Claymore Countermeasure
Improved Auto-Loader
Extended Ammo Supply
EMP *NOTABLE*
OMS Module (Off-Map Support)
Magnetic Field Generator
Paint (Gun_)
Twin Weapon Link
Flash Bangs
Real Time Weapon Change
Ice Thrower
Other
Upgraded Shock Absorbers
ECM Package
Heatsink
High powered jumpjets
Long Range Sensors
Coolant Pod
Mechanical Jump Boosters
Airborne Thruster
Smoke Grenade (Launcher/Generator_)
Remote Spy Cam
Fake Radar Blip Drones *NOTABLE*
Rappel/Cable Lines
Mesh Network Satellite Scan
Horizontal Boosters
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---===Some Ground Rules (READ THESE DAMMIT)===---
1. Please DO NOT post weapon suggestions (machine guns, lasers, plasma swords, mortars, potato cannons, etc). Anything that is meant to be a primary weapon of sorts do not belong here, things like mines, remote bombs, or drones are okay.
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2. Make sure your suggestion HAS SUBSTANCE to it. If you post something like:
i thnk we sud get a Cage of ninja Pandas!! 8-) cuz it wud b cool and i like ninjas like naruto!!1! :mrgreen:
I, or someone else, will likely mock you at the expense of your ego and reputation, and your suggestion will be ignored and forgotten. Try to have it well written with some explanation about how it works, a better version of the above example could be:
We could equip a cage carrying Ninja Pandas that, when released, would attack the nearest enemy, they would move fast, and do minor damage for a period of time or until destroyed. They will mainly act as a distraction as they are hard to hit and players may be hesitant to harm such an adorable, puppy-eyed critter.
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3. It may get hard after a while, but try to BE ORIGINAL. If someone has already posted an idea similar to your own we don't need to hear it again. Feel free to build on top of other people's ideas, in fact I encourage people to do so; just make sure you are adding-on, not just rewording what has already been said.
On that note I strongly suggest you read the first suggestion on in-field repairing. which I've put right here
==Repair kit/Nanobots/Repair drones/etc== *Notable*
Contributor(s): An unruly mob of peasants
Type: Defensive ability
Due to the broadness and already ongoing discussion of repairing your mech in-battle, I recommend you refrain from posting about ways to heal your mech here unless it is REALLY unique. Here are some of the threads about repairing and/or the mech health system:
Mech Repair/Recovery System, how should it work_
How about "Repair droids" or "repair bots"_
Limb damage_
Some ideas on damage
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If you break one of these ground rules I may add you to the list of "Oblivious Blokes Who Don't Read :evil: " and may or may not mock you based on how I feel :roll:
Besides that anything goes. 8-)
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Last Updated: July. 3, 2011
- I'm back and I'm QUACK!! 8-)
Previous Updates
May. 31, 2011
- Suggestions added
- EMP suggestions added
- EMP made notable
May. 20, 2011
- Suggestions added
May. 15, 2011
- More suggestions added
May. 10, 2011
- More organizational crap
- Condemned first bloke :evil:
- More suggestions added
- Thinking about adding table of contents
May. 8, 2011
- All sorts of organizational crap
- Added some peoples suggestions, DO NOT despair if yours is not here yet, I need too sleep too sometimes
May.4, 2011
- Thread started
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:evil: :evil: :evil: ---===Oblivious Blokes Who Don't Read===--- :evil: :evil: :evil:
I hereby condemn the following to the notoriety of been on this dubious list for all to see:
SickDownlink - The first to be darned to heck
Varaka - Ctrl + F man, Ctrl + F
Robert1374 - Cool ideas, wrong place
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Debatable/Iffy Suggestions
I will now state that these are NOT bad or rejected ideas, just things I'm not sure falls into the category of 'special equipment', this is based on MY JUDGEMENT and I mean no offense towards anyone, just that it may be in the wrong place.
If you see one of your ideas, or another from someone else, in this area and disagree with its placement here please post (preferably in this thread) why you think so and/or what adjustments can be made to it so that it can be considered 'Special Equipment'. I will review it and, if I am swayed, will add it to the actual list.
Now begone puny mortals
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==Magnet Gun==
Contributor(s): legionwolff - original thread
Sounds like a weapon, albeit an unusual one, closest comparison I can think of is the gravity gun from Half-Life 2 which certainly IS a weapon as many hours of throwing saw-blades at soon to be bisected zombies has shown me.
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==Heavy/Light/Other Armor==
Contributor(s): Flyingdebris
While been able to choose how much armor you put on your mech should DEFIANTLY be an option, it's not really an 'equipment' as all mechs will have armor regardless. The idea of 'stealth armor' is interesting but would make more sense as a module that affects enemy sensors, but would be heavy thus forcing a reduction in armor or loss of firepower in order to remain mobile.
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==Weapon Buffs/Upgrades==
Contributor(s): Flyingdebris
Been able to add things like incendiary/armor piercing rounds, or missile spreaders is an interesting conundrum as they would be better classified as a "module-on-a-module" versus a piece of equipment for a specialized purpose. Maybe will see things like been able to further customize your weapons by adding 'perks' to them.
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==Mini nuke or high explosive (Concussive Blast_)==
Lord_Porksword:
Have it knock the Mechs to their backs leaving them venerable while they get up. Also have the flash cause temporary blindness or blurred/distorted vision.
HappyApathy (Judgement):
The name of this would *technically* make it a weapon, however the description you give makes it sound more like something meant to physically (versus electronically) disable or impair an enemy, by knocking them over or blinding them. Re-wording this as something else may help.
Yes a mini-nuke would have the same effects, but its intent would be more to blow your foe to little bits versus just making them trip
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Defensive Suggestions
Stuff that keeps you from exploding (hopefully).
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==Counter-Measures/Chaff/Flares== *NOTABLE*
Contributor(s): HappyApathy
Type: Defensive special ability
Has been suggested multiple times, must mean its popular 8-)
Used to throw off attacks by heat-seeking and/or homing missiles, when used it fires a number of reflective flares into the air which have a high chance of causing a heat-seeking weapon to miss. Takes a bit of time to reload leaving you vulnerable to another heat-seeking attack till its ready again.
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==Targeting-Scrambler==
Contributor(s): HappyApathy
Type: Defensive passive ability
Generates a disruptive field around your mech that interferes with enemy targeting, increases the chances of a homing attack to miss, doesn't work as well as counter-measures but is constant. Could possibly have different versions that work better but weigh more.
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==Invisibility/Camouflage== *NOTABLE*
Contributor(s): legionwolff (+ Necrozilla) - original thread
Type: Defensive special ability
legionwolff (Condensed from original thread)
Allows player to temporarily become invisible/translucent at some expense in performance elsewhere (like loss of speed, inability to use weapons, etc). Likely would also remove presence on mini-map.
Necrozilla:
Ways to balance:
1. Buzzing sound when cloaked (people can hear this)
2. Near-insta-death if shot when cloaked
3. Thermal vision mode = shows the mech in a heat silhouette.
4. Shooting = lose cloak/energy bar has to recharge.
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==Anti-Missile Cage==
Contributor(s): Flyingdebris
Type: Defensive passive ability
Protects vs missile damage negating 80% of their damage so long as you are above 80% health. after which the missile cage is too damaged to help. Pro, cheap missile protection for the early part of a fight. Con, opponent can simply opt to shoot the cage off first before shooting missiles at you
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==Anti-Missile System==
Contributor(s): Flyingdebris, pandm101 - original thread
Type: Defensive passive ability
Flyingdebris:
small turret that autonomously attempts (attempts being the operative word) to shoot down incoming missiles with a laser. Works best when you are moving slow or are standing still. Pro, can protect you from missiles consistently, Con, to protect you well, you have to be a sitting duck for most other types of weapons.
pandm101:
An autonomous drone with the ability to shoot incoming missiles, making an enemy rely on more that just those, not saying it can take all the misslies down, but maybe it takes 1 second to target, and 1 to shoot one down, so running with two of those could effectively lessen the impact of missiles, but if you have them, you are at a disadvantage to people using other ones.
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==Energy Barrier Generator==
Contributor(s): Porcupine
Type: Deployed defensive ability
A deployable generator that, once placed, creates an energy barrier that blocks off enemy fire (can be weak to certain types of weapons) providing cover until the generator battery is depleted or until destroyed. Can also be used to block passages, like tunnels and underpasses, creating traps. When placed in the open enemy mechs can easily jump over it with jump-jets, but that depends on the shape of the barrier.
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==Disposable Armor Paneling==
Contributor(s): Shoebox
Type: Defensive passive ability
Additional sheets of metal you can attach to your mech, that once you sustain a certain level of damage can be shed to gain much more speed and movement as well as less fuel consumption. As it initially takes up lots of room on your mech, it will be for longer matches that require you to survive for longer, or skilled players who need that survivability to stay in the game longer between respawns.
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==Liquid Coolant Suit==
Contributor(s): Shoebox
Type: Defensive special ability
When circumstances call for it, you can reroute coolant to external pipes that will soak the exterior of your Mech. This will make you invisible to heat-seeking missiles as well as on Thermal Imagery, but you will be very prone to overheating during this period.
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==Secondary Shield==
Contributor(s): SickDownlink
Type: Defensive passive bonus
Condensed from original post
A solid metal shield that takes the place of a weapon. The shield could passively increase your HP, or is could soak up damage if hit and have its own HP count, once it's hp reaches 0 it would be destroyed and your mech would drop it.
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==Hunker (Energy Shield)==
Contributor(s): The_Silencer - original thread
Type: Defensive special ability
Condensed from original thread
Generates an energy shield around yourself to block/reduce damage from incoming attacks, only lasts for a short duration so it requires good timing to use effectively, long cool-down period.
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==Tortoise Shield==
Contributor(s): HappyApathy
Type: Defensive passive bonus
A large armored shield that covers the backside of your mech that either will directly absorb damage into itself, or greatly reduce damage taken by the mech chassis from behind, does not protect legs. Weighs a lot and reduces rotation speed of mech body.
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==Hologram/Decoy==
Contributor(s): HawkenRules123
Type: Deployed defensive abililty
HawkenRules123:
...a mirror image of your mech could appear, it would do no damage...but it would trick people to shoot at it/could help uncover people using the invisibility thing (if they put it in the game)
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==Shock Barrier==
Contributor(s): Varaka
Type: Deployed defensive abililty
Place both ends on opposite walls to make a field. The farther appart the weaker the barrier.
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Offensive Suggestions
Stuff that makes people explode (preferably not yourself).
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==Attack/Support Drones==
Contributor(s): pandm101 - original thread
Type: Deployed Offensive ability
Little floating pods that circle/follow/hover near shoulders of your mech. any of those work, and fire independently/make missiles lock faster/give slight auto aim for the shoulder they are near.
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==Proximity Mines== *NOTABLE*
Contributor(s): The_Silencer (+ wyver) - original thread
Type: Deployed offensive ability
Should be self-explanatory, you drop it, someone walks by, it explodes.
The_Silencer:
...1 big mine only per mecha and per spawn as well. Although the possibility of to pick up mines on certain spots of the map is not what i had in mind. I mean, what I'd like to see is 1 mine only per mech and other players being able of picking up 1 mine of some dead player ( only in case players have wasted their own mine already )
wyver:
even an EMP mine would do awesomely how much would it suck / rule if you or another person got hit by and EMP mine and were shut down or crippled in some way like there targeting went down or they could only run away or they're HUD was off line or something i recon that would be awesome
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==Mini-Turrets==
Contributor(s): Presumably shown in gameplay video
Type: Deployed offensive ability
A small autonomous turret that can be placed by the player, will attack enemies until it is destroyed or some sort of limiter (runs out of ammo, duration time expires) is reached.
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==Hacking Device==
Contributor(s): Porcupine
Type: Offensive special ability
A small hacking device that can be shot at an enemy mech. If successfully attached it hacks the mech's systems causing temporary random malfunctions like targeting systems becoming inaccurate, radar showing false readings or not detecting enemies at all, sensors not detecting incoming missiles or giving off false warnings, etc. Maybe it could even affect the more mechanical aspects of the mech, causing problems like erratic movement and weapons malfunctions. It could also be used to hack enemy turrets causing them to stop working, attack friendly targets or even attacking everyone, the effect could be random.
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==Claymore Countermeasure==
Contributor(s): Flyingdebris
Type: Offensive special ability
A series of outwardly aimed directional mines packed with small anti armor submunitions, roughly aimed along your horizontal axis covering 360 degrees around you, out to a 60m radius. Usage is very limited. Triggering it damages anyone within the radius, damage increasing the closer they are to you. Damage is not high however, but it makes for a rude surprise that is hard to avoid. Pro, you are a reusable grenade, Con, have to be close to opponent.
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==Improved Auto-Loader==
Contributor(s): Flyingdebris
Type: Passive offensive bonus
Rapid-fire weapons fire rate is increased by 20% however due to bulk, cooling jacket had to be downgraded. weapon overheats 15% faster.
Implementation will depend on whether mechs will depend on an ammo and/or overheat system to limit weapon fire.
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==Extended Ammo Supply==
Contributor(s): Flyingdebris
Type: Passive offensive bonus
Hold twice as much more for any given ammo supply.
Implementation will depend on whether mechs will depend on an ammo and/or overheat system to limit weapon fire.
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==EMP==
Contributor(s): legionwolff - original thread, HawkenRules123, pandm101
Type: Offensive special ability
Condensed from original thread
When activated it generates an EMP field that affects all mechs within a certain radius from your mech (could possibly affect yourself as well). Knocks out mech systems temporarily, effect may diminish on further away mechs.
HawkenRules123:
for the emp i think it would be neat if you had to rapidly press a button to recover from it.
pandm101:
I'd prefer multiple button combinations, as if flipping multiple switches and dials to restart.
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==OMS Module (Off-Map Support)==
Contributor(s): Porcupine
Type: Offensive special ability
Communications device that allows the mech pilot to call for off-map support, in the form of artillery/air strikes, ammo drop offs, etc. While targeting the area for the drop off or air/artillery strike the mech needs to remain stationary for a bit, making it vulnerable to attacks, if the mech is destroyed, or takes enough damage, the call for support is canceled.
==Magnetic Field Generator==
Contributor(s): Lord_Porksword
Type: Offensive special ability
Weighs Mechs towards the ground slowing movement and also inhibiting jumping and flying.
==Paint (Gun_)==
Contributor(s): Lord_Porksword
Type: Offensive special ability
Splash an enemy cockpit window with some paint so the player can't see clearly. Make it so they have to fly so the paint runs off the screen or incomming lasers/projectiles remove the paint.
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==Twin Weapon Link==
Contributor(s): Flyingdebris
Type: Passive offensive ability
Re-worded from original
A very costly piece of kit. Have to sacrifice a lot of weight/space/other equipment to fit it on. Allows you to mount an additional weapon (along the lines of MG, shotgun, etc) The extra weapon will essentially be underslung onto your existing weapon and fires when you fire the original. This leads naturally to higher damage output, but also leads to overheating very quickly.
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==Flash Bangs==
Contributor(s): Varaka
Type: Offensive special ability
Temporarily blinds and disorients mechs caught in its blast radius.
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==Real Time Weapon Change==
Contributor(s): Shoebox
Type: Special Ability
An extra pair of arms that swaps weapons on the fly for you. You will have a wider arsenal of weapons, at the cost of reduced shield power (or greatly increased weight). Your selection of weapons will also have reduced ammunition since the capacity for ammo stays the same.
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==Ice Thrower==
Contributor(s): Varaka
Type: Offensive special Ability
Makes ground slippery.
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Other Thingys
Stuff that doesn't fit it the previous two sections (like cup holders)
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==Upgraded Shock Absorbers==
Contributor(s): HappyApathy
Type: Passive bonus
Improves the suspension of your mech thus lowering the effect of weight, allowing increased movement speed and mobility. Downside is that it takes up space that could have been used for other special equipment.
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==ECM Package==
Contributor(s): Flyingdebris
Type: Passive effect
Enemies within range of your ecm have difficulty pinpointing sensor contacts as the contact dots blink and zig zag erratically over a a large general area. Can be countered with another rival ecm package, which will cancel each other out. Whichever team has more ecms in any given area gains the benefit of the ecm field. However due to the strong signals being broadcast by the ecm, missile locks require only half the time to be acquired on a ecm equipped mech. Pro, ruin enemy radar, con, make yourself a missile magnet.
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==Heatsink==
Contributor(s): Flyingdebris, HappyApathy
Type: Passive bonus
Flyingdebris:
Increases your cooling rate, however, for each additional heatsink, your enemies can lock on to you just a little easier.
HappyApathy:
Alternatively could add a small rate of fire increase for all weapons. Another idea for a consequence of equipping this is that it simply could be a heavy piece of equipment.
Implementation will depend on whether mechs will depend on an ammo and/or overheat system to limit weapon fire.
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==High powered jumpjets==
Contributor(s): Flyingdebris
Type: Passive bonus
More powerful than standard jets, but consume fuel 25% faster and causes you heat. Lets you jump higher and/or fly for a longer duration.
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==Long Range Sensors==
Contributor(s): Flyingdebris
Type: Passive bonus
Lets you detect opponents at longer radar range. Possible downsides, takes up space that could be used for other equipment and/or makes you easier to detect as well.
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==Coolant Pod==
Contributor(s): Flyingdebris
Type: Special ability
Limited use piece of equipment to drastically drop your heat level before it becomes a problem, however flushing your system with high pressure coolant significantly slows down your movement temporarily, so its still something dicey to do in combat.
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==Mechanical Jump Boosters==
Contributor(s): Flyingdebris
Type: Special ability
Lets you perform short jumps even when your jump jet fuel is dry. If you have jump jet fuel, you'll get a slight boost into the air when you just them to go upwards from a standing position.
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==Airborne Thruster==
Contributor(s): Man Eating Boar - original thread
Type: Special ability
Despite the creative name, using it will confuse people to its purpose, until further details of the game are released I suggest using more 'basic' names to convey the general purpose of the item.
Allows you to momentarily distort physics, allowing you to perform sudden unexpected changes while in mid air.
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==Smoke Grenade (Launcher/Generator_)==
Contributor(s): The_Silencer (+ legionwolff) - original thread
Type: Special ability
The_Silencer:
I'd suggest 2 or 3 Smoke Grenades only per mecha. Different smoke colors in team based games might be a good addition as well. In FFAs the the color of the SGs could be the same for every player in the battlefield though.
legionwolff:
Smoke grenades would be very handy in this game. Though I would personally prefer a smoke screen emission from my own Mech rather than tossing a smoke at someone else. But hey i'm a fan of either.
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==Remote Spy Cam==
Contributor(s): Porcupine
Type: Special ability
It's usefulness depends on the type of the game. A small remote camera that can be placed on any surface (maybe even on the mechs themselves) and lasts until the battery dies or until shot. The video feed could be broadcasted directly into the mechs HUD (maybe even for the whole team) or the player could access the camera at any time in full screen for best detail, but while doing this he remains vulnerable.
While having this last idea I thought it would be cool if you could shoot a spy cam into a teammate so you could see what he sees thus making it easy to coordinate some tactic that require a certain amount of teamwork, but maybe a feature like this could already come by default as part of the team's communication
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==Fake Radar Blip Drones== *NOTABLE*
Contributor(s): The_Silencer (+ Flyingdebris + Dem + Jack Dandy) - original thread
Type: Deployed Special Ability
The_Silencer:
Simply little drones to fake radar blips. Once more this should add some few interesting tactics in the game. I'd say one FRB drone per mecha and if possible destroyable by enemy, or depending on lobby settings, friendly fire as well.
These Fake Radar Blip "Drones", as mortal entities in the game, would have no movement at all. So your opponent might think that you're using one of these or that you're trying to ambush him by just staying quiet there. The geometry of the maps, as we have seen in the gameplay trailer, go with several structures with different heights, tunnels and/or corridors and et cetera
The lifetime and mobility for these sound as pretty interesting mechanics to me. I think that, as max.,... no. If you can somehow* move these around then I'd suggest 1 fake radar blip per mecha. If they are static entities who just stay there once you drop them ( so behaving like a mine, so to speak ) then put 2 or 3 as max. per mecha.
Flyingdebris:
i don't think it'd break radar use if there was a subtle tell to something being a FRD rather than an actual player. For instance if its movement patterns and speed were just a little different from how a the average jetpacking robot's radar sig would move.
Dem:
I think if they were to be implemented, then they should be some sort of placeable object, similar to the turrets we've seen. And if they are placeable, they could be used in two ways I think.
They could be a single object that you carry around and when you lay it down, it would set out multiple fake blips until it is destroyed. Or, they could be multiple things you carry around and when you set them down they would create a single blip right there for a set amount of time.
Jack Dandy:
Yeah... have it take a little pre-determined path, let it float around. Could be cool, and sure to surprise people who think they've got you.
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==Rappel/Cable Lines==
Contributor(s): Flyingdebris
Type: Special Ability
a pair of compact, rear mounted, downward facing, mass accelerators, launch deep penetrating spikes into the ground where a mech is standing. The spikes are attached to a set of high tensile cables and a high speed winch system.
you can't use them to spiderman around, and you have to actually be standing on a surface for them to work, otherwise they won't fire.
What they'd let you do is essentially, attach to the top of a building and lower/raise yourself. Letting you position yourself in very unusual places. If used solely on a horizontal surface, they can quickly zip you backwards (though not forwards, obviously).
splash damage severs the lines, any direct hits to the lines severs them, using jump jets or running out of slack auto severs the lines.
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==Mesh Network Satellite Scan==
Contributor(s): Shoebox
Type: Special Ability
Not that simple, but the idea is that you drop a series of spikes in open clearings that direct a nearby satellite to scan the area inside them.
All non-friendly units become visible on your radar and have their radars jammed.
You need three to set up an area.
Enemies can find and break the chain, however as long as the other two nodes remain you can drop another spike and it will function again.
This is a sustainable and potentially permanent satellite system.
Since they have their own uplink, until all of them are deployed they are visible on the radar to everybody.
Multiple players can synchronize their drop pattern in order to set-up and sustain the network faster.
Competing networks will cancel each other out in the overlapping area.
==Horizontal Boosters==
Contributor(s): Shoebox
Type: Special ability
While you're on the ground, you can use these to quickly ascend or rapidly dash forward. They use the same fuel source as your thrusters, but are concentrated bursts of thrust. You can use the momentum from Boosters to gain more agility in the air, giving you a rapid take-off that increases overall flight speed at the cost of initial fuel consumption.
