108 replies to this topic

[DarkPulse]

Warwhale, on December 10 2012 - 07:55 AM, said:

this game doesnt suit powerful sniping

its good that they are a support role and not an annoying, hand of god that u cant even fight back against

early beta SS was OP and game breaking

I could (and did) fight back against sharpshooters all the time, quite successfully, in earlier beta phases. It wasn't impossible.

A class that is only useable with backup is, basically, a useless class, as no other class has that kind of difficulty in terms of play.

[Coot]

I know this was possible in Alpha2/CB1, but can you still adjust the FoV of the zoom in the .ini files to where it stays at 80-90_

Probably 100% unintended but made quickscopping a cakewalk.

[DarkPulse]

Coot, on December 10 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

I know this was possible in Alpha2/CB1, but can you still adjust the FoV of the zoom in the .ini files to where it stays at 80-90_

Probably 100% unintended but made quickscopping a cakewalk.

I'd seriously doubt it, and I expect that if it is, it'll get patched out fast.

[AsianJoyKiller]

DarkPulse, on December 10 2012 - 09:35 AM, said:

Warwhale, on December 10 2012 - 07:55 AM, said:

this game doesnt suit powerful sniping

its good that they are a support role and not an annoying, hand of god that u cant even fight back against

early beta SS was OP and game breaking

I could (and did) fight back against sharpshooters all the time, quite successfully, in earlier beta phases. It wasn't impossible.

A class that is only useable with backup is, basically, a useless class, as no other class has that kind of difficulty in terms of play.

*Coughbruisercough*

But you're very much on target.
CBE1/2 sharpshooters were powerful, but if you played well, they weren't too much of a problem. Beefcake is the only SS that regularly gave me problems (though you, nomcopter and JustJake probably would have too if I ran into you guys more often), and that's only because he's a better SS than your average player.

As it stands in CBE3, SS could still be effective, but if you put the same effort of playing SS into playing a different class, you'd get much better results.
All classes should be balanced in a way that similar effort gives similar output.

DarkPulse, on December 10 2012 - 09:54 AM, said:

Coot, on December 10 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

I know this was possible in Alpha2/CB1, but can you still adjust the FoV of the zoom in the .ini files to where it stays at 80-90_

Probably 100% unintended but made quickscopping a cakewalk.

I'd seriously doubt it, and I expect that if it is, it'll get patched out fast.

Last I checked, it's not something you can alter.

[Astrolis]

forums double post_ delete onigaishimasu

Edited by Astrolis, December 10 2012 - 10:47 AM.

[Astrolis]

[ADH]vanasenshi, on December 06 2012 - 02:27 AM, said:

Hey ya'll!  I'm Vanasenshi, a Game Designer and I've been deep into the weapon balancing since CBT1.   I want to touch on your thoughts on SS and let you guys know what the plans are for this class for OBT since it's rapidly approaching.  

I've brought the Sabot Rifle closer back to it's CBT2 stats, as well as increased its basic damage a tad and highly reduced its spread, while zoomed as well as unzoomed.  The weapon is an accurate, deadly cannon again! To balance this, I've reduced the turn radius slightly while you are zoomed in.  This will create decision choices between when to be zoomed in and not as you won't be able to turn super fast and attack people, zooming out then back in would be much more appropriate if you had to turn 100 degrees plus.

Secondly, I've upgraded the primary weapons attached to the SS as well, the Slug Rifle has had its accuracy increased to pinpoint precision.  I've also decreased the spread dramatically when unzoomed.  The slug will make a great burst combo, especially when fired simultaniously with the Sabot (much like CBT2).  

The SA Hawkins has had major improvements back towards CBT2 as well, I've increased the weapons rate of fire again (not as fast as it used to be, but still very noticeable).  The accuracy has also greatly increased, and does not require you to be zoomed in for extreme accuracy.

Anyways, I look forward to your feedback once 12-12-12 hits and HAWKEN invades the world!  Please keep up with all the great feedback, it's extremely invaluable to me, and the rest of the team, when trying to make the best game not just for us, but every single pilot out there!

*Edit : Also, the Sabot rifle is still "Hitscan" That never changed

Is the A-Class Sniper dead_

[DarkPulse]

AsianJoyKiller, on December 10 2012 - 10:23 AM, said:

CBE1/2 sharpshooters were powerful, but if you played well, they weren't too much of a problem. Beefcake is the only SS that regularly gave me problems (though you, nomcopter and JustJake probably would have too if I ran into you guys more often), and that's only because he's a better SS than your average player.

As it stands in CBE3, SS could still be effective, but if you put the same effort of playing SS into playing a different class, you'd get much better results.

Basically this. As I put it in another thread, why go 12-7 as an SS when I could go 21-4 with a Brawler or something_

Astrolis, on December 10 2012 - 10:46 AM, said:

Is the A-Class Sniper dead_

*Clears throat* Fight Club...

Astrolis, on December 10 2012 - 10:44 AM, said:

forums double post_ delete onigaishimasu

It's "onegaishimasu."

[Karaipantsu]

DarkPulse, on December 10 2012 - 11:17 AM, said:

Astrolis, on December 10 2012 - 10:44 AM, said:

forums double post_ delete onigaishimasu

It's "onegaishimasu."

Yikes....

[The_Silencer]

Anyways.. let's see how the AG guys recook up the SS this time in the -oh yeah, upcoming- OB1.

[Decoy101x]

LYKE OH MAI GAWED. SS IS SOOO UNDER POWERED. I HATE THIS GAM. GONNA GO PLAY MECH WARRIOR ONLINE UNTIL YOU FIX THIS DUMB GAME.

555

KUY

[Roundlay]

Coot, on December 10 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

I know this was possible in Alpha2/CB1, but can you still adjust the FoV of the zoom in the .ini files to where it stays at 80-90_

Probably 100% unintended but made quickscopping a cakewalk.

Pretty sure they killed the ability to edit FoV via ini. This was editable in the Alpha and possibly in CBE1.

[Astrolis]

DarkPulse, on December 10 2012 - 11:17 AM, said:

AsianJoyKiller, on December 10 2012 - 10:23 AM, said:

CBE1/2 sharpshooters were powerful, but if you played well, they weren't too much of a problem. Beefcake is the only SS that regularly gave me problems (though you, nomcopter and JustJake probably would have too if I ran into you guys more often), and that's only because he's a better SS than your average player.

As it stands in CBE3, SS could still be effective, but if you put the same effort of playing SS into playing a different class, you'd get much better results.

Basically this. As I put it in another thread, why go 12-7 as an SS when I could go 21-4 with a Brawler or something_

Astrolis, on December 10 2012 - 10:46 AM, said:

Is the A-Class Sniper dead_

*Clears throat* Fight Club...

Astrolis, on December 10 2012 - 10:44 AM, said:

forums double post_ delete onigaishimasu

It's "onegaishimasu."

the spelling was intentional. -meh- its spell ne but pronounced ni. (well at least in kyuushu, idk about tokyo/other dialects)

how do I know__ lived in beppu-shi, oita, kyuushu. (whether you believe it or not)

BUT SERIOUSLY

WhErE iS mY A-cLaSs SnIpEr At_

Edited by Astrolis, December 11 2012 - 11:33 AM.

[Roundlay]

Astrolis, on December 10 2012 - 07:19 PM, said:

the spelling was intentional. ever heard a legit japanese chick say it_ its spell ne but pronounced ni. (well at least in kyuushu, idk about tokyo/other dialects)

Yes. And no. At least not outside of Kyushu.

Also, I would love to hear you define, "legit Japanese chick".

Edited by Roundlay, December 10 2012 - 07:42 PM.

[Karaipantsu]

Please don't turn this into a power level thread.  

[Beemann]

Karaipantsu, on December 10 2012 - 07:34 PM, said:

Please don't turn this into a power level thread.  

(Insert obligatory "over 9000" picture/quote/video here)

Edited by Beemann, December 10 2012 - 07:39 PM.

[AsianJoyKiller]

fuzzy bunny weeaboos.

[DarkPulse]

AsianJoyKiller, on December 10 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

fuzzy bunny weeaboos.

The irony of an asian calling everyone else weeaboos is hilariously amusing.

[OverWolf]

AsianJoyKiller, on December 10 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

fuzzy bunny weeaboos.

Edited by OverWolf, December 10 2012 - 10:05 PM.

[Roundlay]

Thread lockdown in 3, 2...

[Astrolis]

OverWolf, on December 10 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

AsianJoyKiller, on December 10 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

fuzzy bunny weeaboos.

But seriously, A-class sniper_ hmmm_ anyone_

Edited by Astrolis, December 11 2012 - 12:02 AM.