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#21 oSPANNERo

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Posted December 07 2012 - 03:18 PM

View PostScapes, on December 07 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

View PostNecro, on December 07 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostScapes, on December 07 2012 - 02:19 PM, said:

View PostElix, on December 07 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

One question, though_ Any hints on what the Alpha rewards are_ It's a question that gets asked at least weekly here.

We'll be posting news about that later today. :)
Any closed beta rewards in the works_

I didn't get to be part of alpha :(

Yes, but we've postponed this post to tomorrow. Gotta check on some logistics.

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#22 oSPANNERo

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Posted December 07 2012 - 03:20 PM

View PostScapes, on December 07 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

View PostoSPANNERo, on December 07 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Any Meteor employee want to give the public the team's total RedBull/Monster/Starbucks caffeine to sleep ratio over the last few days_

Ick, energy drinks. Pass the coffee, please.

I made sure Starbucks was in there... but please feel free to substitue any coffee or caffeinated tea of your choice. You guys deserve it.

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Edited by oSPANNERo, December 07 2012 - 03:43 PM.


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Posted December 07 2012 - 03:34 PM

Wow, Cupcake went from "Will barely bother" to "Gotta play!" now. Extremely interesting... I can't wait to see what I do with it. :)

Two (well, possibly three) questions, that aside.
  • Those items will be equipped on all Vanguards and Assaults. Are they going to be purchasable by other classes as well_
  • If you purchase something else on those classes, do those parts disappear_ (In other words, if I replaced the Cage, is the Cage gone for good, or is it selectable like any other part I buy_)
  • If I used an XP booster, does that affect the part's boost as well_ (In other words, will the booster provide 240% XP due to the part, or only 220% as the part is not factored into the boost_)

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Posted December 07 2012 - 03:44 PM

View PostScapes, on December 07 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

View PostNecro, on December 07 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostScapes, on December 07 2012 - 02:19 PM, said:

View PostElix, on December 07 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

One question, though_ Any hints on what the Alpha rewards are_ It's a question that gets asked at least weekly here.

We'll be posting news about that later today. :)
Any closed beta rewards in the works_

I didn't get to be part of alpha :(

Yes, but we've postponed this post to tomorrow. Gotta check on some logistics.
Wait, the alpha/dev hunt info, or something for the beta as well_  If there is something for the beta, does than mean us alpha/dev hunt people are going to get something for the beta as well, AKA three more pieces of swag_  :D

(I don't mean to necro threads, I'm just almost always running behind.  My apologies)

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Posted December 07 2012 - 03:54 PM

Dat Vulcan+GL. This oughta be good.

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Posted December 07 2012 - 04:02 PM

Hmmm they changed out the Rev-GL for some guns. Sweet.

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Posted December 07 2012 - 04:03 PM

View PostNecro, on December 07 2012 - 03:07 PM, said:

View PostElix, on December 07 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

View PostNecro, on December 07 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

Any closed beta rewards in the works_

I didn't get to be part of alpha :(
They haven't said anything at all about CB rewards that I'm aware of, although it'd be cool if CB got a custom camo or something, even just one little thing that says "I suffered 'unable to download manifest' for this".
I endured matchmaking!Giev to me something!!
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(I don't mean to necro threads, I'm just almost always running behind.  My apologies)

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#28 oSPANNERo

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Posted December 07 2012 - 04:09 PM

View Postbacon_avenger, on December 07 2012 - 04:03 PM, said:

View PostNecro, on December 07 2012 - 03:07 PM, said:

View PostElix, on December 07 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

View PostNecro, on December 07 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

Any closed beta rewards in the works_

I didn't get to be part of alpha :(
They haven't said anything at all about CB rewards that I'm aware of, although it'd be cool if CB got a custom camo or something, even just one little thing that says "I suffered 'unable to download manifest' for this".
I endured matchmaking!Giev to me something!!
(I know, but it was put together in about 10 minutes :P )

How about an alternately equip-able primary that just pops out a flag that says "Bang"_ :rolleyes:

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Posted December 07 2012 - 04:12 PM

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Posted December 07 2012 - 04:16 PM

View Postbacon_avenger, on December 07 2012 - 04:03 PM, said:

(I know, but it was put together in about 10 minutes :P )

And now it lives on my desk.
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Posted December 07 2012 - 04:20 PM

View PostDarkPulse, on December 07 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

  • Those items will be equipped on all Vanguards and Assaults. Are they going to be purchasable by other classes as well_
  • If you purchase something else on those classes, do those parts disappear_ (In other words, if I replaced the Cage, is the Cage gone for good, or is it selectable like any other part I buy_)
  • If I used an XP booster, does that affect the part's boost as well_ (In other words, will the booster provide 240% XP due to the part, or only 220% as the part is not factored into the boost_)

Currently, rookie internals are only available on the Vanguard and the Assault. Purchasing other internals does not "destroy" previously-owned/purchased internals. And yes, the Regulator allows for a maximum of 220% normal experience gain when an XP Boost is active (it's additive, not multiplicative).
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Posted December 07 2012 - 04:32 PM

View PostScapes, on December 07 2012 - 04:20 PM, said:

Currently, rookie internals are only available on the Vanguard and the Assault. Purchasing other internals does not "destroy" previously-owned/purchased internals. And yes, the Regulator allows for a maximum of 220% normal experience gain (it's additive, not multiplicative).
Thanks for the info. Stay awesome.
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Posted December 07 2012 - 05:05 PM

View PostScapes, on December 07 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

Prototype Mech

Originally an exclusive chassis for the Grenadier mech, we've improved this perk by turning it into a true prototype mech. The mech is now called the Vanguard, has a new weapon loadout, and comes fully-equipped with items and internals.

Here are the final specs of the Vanguard:
  • Alternate Primary Weapon: Mini Flak Cannon
Hell yeah!


View PostScapes, on December 07 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

About Rookie Internals

The Vanguard mech is equipped with a new set of what we're calling "rookie" internals which have no negative effects unlike other internals. These internals will also be equipped on the Assault mech that all HAWKEN accounts start off with.

Hell  YEAH!


View PostScapes, on December 07 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

View PostCoot, on December 07 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

Any closed beta rewards in the works_

I didn't get to be part of alpha :(

Yes, but we've postponed this post to tomorrow. Gotta check on some logistics.

*Squeeeeeeee!*

Oh boy, everything you say just makes me happier and happier.

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Posted December 07 2012 - 07:31 PM

This is all totally awesome! 4 days... I must prepare.
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Posted December 07 2012 - 08:11 PM

Is there a big change to internals values coming_ Because those 'rookie' internals not only give a higher positive bonus than normal internals, they also have no downside!

So, are 'normal' internals going to have their positive bonuses scaled way way up, so you can choose between say -5% heat gen (rookie), or -10% heat gen with -5% armor (normal), or something like that_

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Posted December 07 2012 - 08:23 PM

Just because "supporters" get rookie internals on their assaults doesn't mean others will.
So, those who paid got free exclusive internals without downsides, a free UNIQUE CLASS no one else will ever be able to pick, all on top of the MC and boosts they purchased. You crossed the "cosmetics and progress only" line, Meteor.
The issue of cruel HC rates vs mech prices was swept under the rug all the way until release and isn't going anywhere. Unless CB3 figures aren't final, it still takes weeks of lopsided fights to grind for your preferred mech. You're no better than WoT in this department.
If by some miracle I don't ragequit for having to use a bare assault against everything else for weeks before I get a brawler, Vanguards are going to be kill-on-sight priority for me.
gotta go slow

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Posted December 07 2012 - 08:24 PM

View PostScapes, on December 07 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

As a sum of its parts, the Vanguard mech is a unique loadout only granted by the Vanguard Initiative promotion at this time.
I really hope this changes.

View PostScapes, on December 07 2012 - 04:20 PM, said:

Currently, rookie internals are only available on the Vanguard and the Assault.
Having internals that completely lack downsides and being forced to give them up to try something new sounds harsh.

Why don't all mechs purchased start with them_

Edited by D20Face, December 07 2012 - 08:25 PM.


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Posted December 07 2012 - 08:33 PM

View PostTrolled, on December 07 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:

Just because "supporters" get rookie internals on their assaults doesn't mean others will.

You must have missed the part where we explained that all players will have rookie internals on their Assault mechs.
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Posted December 07 2012 - 08:36 PM

View PostScapes, on December 07 2012 - 08:33 PM, said:

View PostTrolled, on December 07 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:

Just because "supporters" get rookie internals on their assaults doesn't mean others will.

You must have missed the part where we explained that all players will have rookie internals on their Assault mechs.
No, it was ambiguous. Bringing it up in a post about Vanguards implied otherwise, and it would be wise to correct it as I'm not the only one who asked about it.
gotta go slow

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Posted December 07 2012 - 08:38 PM

View PostTrolled, on December 07 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:

Just because "supporters" get rookie internals on their assaults doesn't mean others will.
So, those who paid got free exclusive internals without downsides, a free UNIQUE CLASS no one else will ever be able to pick, all on top of the MC and boosts they purchased. You crossed the "cosmetics and progress only" line, Meteor.
The issue of cruel HC rates vs mech prices was swept under the rug all the way until release and isn't going anywhere. Unless CB3 figures aren't final, it still takes weeks of lopsided fights to grind for your preferred mech. You're no better than WoT in this department.
If by some miracle I don't ragequit for having to use a bare assault against everything else for weeks before I get a brawler, Vanguards are going to be kill-on-sight priority for me.

No offense, but if you aren't wanting to generate them any kind of revenue, do you really think you deserve the same items as people who DO give back_ Think about it, this is a freemium game - a free to play game that relies on you purchasing meteor credits to get premium mechs/items quicker. It costs money to run servers, to spend time developing a game, to have the various staff members, it's not all fun and games when it comes down to making a living.That's why I put in my $60 - because as a developer I truly understand and sympathize with projects like this.

This is the problem with the world today, people expect everything for free and you complain when life is unfair because you aren't getting your way and someone has something that you wanted. So you'll explicitly target them in the game to exact some revenge on them, because they supported the developers and gave them money. <_<





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