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#1 Flapjacks

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Posted May 31 2013 - 10:24 AM

Does anyone else agree that the bruiser should be nerfed_

Not only do they have the versatility of a medium mech, but come standard with hellfire rockets AND the point-D vulcan!! Why on earth should a prestige weapon be standard on just one mech_ Let alone combined with seeking rockets that only the rocketeer gets. Need I mention the machine gun turret_

They are good in every game type and have virtually no weaknesses.
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#2 SirMoranSebastian

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Posted May 31 2013 - 10:30 AM

I disagree, the bruiser can easily be overwhelmed by a co-ordinated team with it's inaccurate weapons, and its special ability does very little in the middle of a fire fight. I say that the bruiser's special ability should be buffed in exchange for reduced health since they are quite powerful mechs already.

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Posted May 31 2013 - 10:30 AM

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[HWK]HUGHES, on July 03 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

AJK is right

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#4 TheVulong

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Posted May 31 2013 - 10:32 AM

I assure you that you have no idea what you're talking about. Bruiser is the most "high risk/low reward" mech right now.

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Posted May 31 2013 - 10:37 AM

Hu-uh . . .

*Edit* Just FYI, the prestige weapons are less about providing power and more about providing variety.  The Infiltrator gains the Scout's prestige weapon (HEAT cannon) by level 4; the Reaper gains the Sharpshooter's prestige weapon (AM-SAR) by level 4; the Rocketeer gains the Infiltrator's prestige weapon (EOC Repeater) by level 4, etc.

Bruisers can be played effectively, but they're burdened by the ease with which good players avoid hellfires.  Similarly, the vulcan's a decent close-range weapon, but a terrible choice for most other distances.  Bear in mind that what's effective in lower-ranked servers doesn't necessarily maintain its potency at higher levels of play.

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Posted May 31 2013 - 10:40 AM

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Posted May 31 2013 - 10:40 AM

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Posted May 31 2013 - 10:40 AM

I suppose it's a matter of defining "virtually no weaknesses." Perhaps you meant: sucky in a wide variety of situations_

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Posted May 31 2013 - 10:41 AM

I agree with op! Nerf the bruiser, nobody should even try to play it, leave it with 1 gun ( hawkins RPR )

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Posted May 31 2013 - 10:41 AM

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[HWK]HUGHES, on July 03 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

AJK is right

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#11 TheVulong

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Posted May 31 2013 - 10:42 AM

View PostJintonic, on May 31 2013 - 10:41 AM, said:

I agree with op! Nerf the bruiser, nobody should even try to play it, leave it with 1 gun ( hawkins RPR )
Why_ It will be better to leave it with no weapons at all.

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Posted May 31 2013 - 10:45 AM

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Posted May 31 2013 - 10:49 AM

View PostSirMoranSebastian, on May 31 2013 - 10:30 AM, said:

I disagree, the bruiser can easily be overwhelmed by a co-ordinated team with it's inaccurate weapons, and its special ability does very little in the middle of a fire fight. I say that the bruiser's special ability should be buffed in exchange for reduced health since they are quite powerful mechs already.

That's part of my point, it takes a TEAM to put one down.

The hellfires bug the hell out of me, because even if you manage to dodge 8/10 missiles, you still take a fuzzy bunny-ton of damage. That, coupled with the highest dps automatic weapon in the game makes them offensively incredibly strong! I wouldn't mind that setup on a C mech, but on a medium mech, the balance of speed and HP makes it hard to kill.

Also, god forbid I EVER see Point D and Hellfires on an A class mech...
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#14 TheVulong

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Posted May 31 2013 - 10:52 AM

View PostFlapjacks, on May 31 2013 - 10:49 AM, said:

View PostSirMoranSebastian, on May 31 2013 - 10:30 AM, said:

I disagree, the bruiser can easily be overwhelmed by a co-ordinated team with it's inaccurate weapons, and its special ability does very little in the middle of a fire fight. I say that the bruiser's special ability should be buffed in exchange for reduced health since they are quite powerful mechs already.

That's part of my point, it takes a TEAM to put one down.

The hellfires bug the hell out of me, because even if you manage to dodge 8/10 missiles, you still take a fuzzy bunny-ton of damage. That, coupled with the highest dps automatic weapon in the game makes them offensively incredibly strong! I wouldn't mind that setup on a C mech, but on a medium mech, the balance of speed and HP makes it hard to kill.

Also, god forbid I EVER see Point D and Hellfires on an A class mech...
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P.S. If seriously, I don't want to offend you, bro, but this is just you. Cause the mech itself sucks pretty hard..

Edited by TheVulong, May 31 2013 - 10:59 AM.

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#15 AsianJoyKiller

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Posted May 31 2013 - 10:52 AM

May I ask, what's your MMR ranking_

Also, the Vulcan is not the highest DPS weapon in the game. That title goes to the Mini-Flak.

[HWK]HUGHES, on July 03 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

AJK is right

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Posted May 31 2013 - 10:58 AM

View PostAsianJoyKiller, on May 31 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

May I ask, what's your MMR ranking_
Don't you think that's enough trolling for this thread_

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Posted May 31 2013 - 11:00 AM

View PostAsianJoyKiller, on May 31 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

May I ask, what's your MMR ranking_

Also, the Vulcan is not the highest DPS weapon in the game. That title goes to the Mini-Flak.

1.5k or something_

And I said Highest AUTOMATIC DPS weapon
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Posted May 31 2013 - 11:00 AM

Well .. the Vulcan could go to lv 4 but that wouldn't change anything .. also the defense ability of the bruiser is annoying but fine ... I can follow and kill an bruiser easy. Don't need to be nerfed in my opinion.

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Posted May 31 2013 - 11:01 AM

View PostTheVulong, on May 31 2013 - 10:58 AM, said:

View PostAsianJoyKiller, on May 31 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

May I ask, what's your MMR ranking_
Don't you think that's enough trolling for this thread_
I'm not trolling with that question.

I legitimately want to know his general demographic. It would go a long way towards understand why he thinks the Bruiser needs a nerf.

[HWK]HUGHES, on July 03 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

AJK is right

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Posted May 31 2013 - 11:02 AM

View PostFlapjacks, on May 31 2013 - 11:00 AM, said:

View PostAsianJoyKiller, on May 31 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

May I ask, what's your MMR ranking_

Also, the Vulcan is not the highest DPS weapon in the game. That title goes to the Mini-Flak.

1.5k or something_

And I said Highest AUTOMATIC DPS weapon
So you're a completely average player at best. And how long have you been playing_

Protip: Miniflak is automatic.

[HWK]HUGHES, on July 03 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

AJK is right

The Sinful Infil HEAT Cannon Hustler, Cloaking and Smoking, C-Class Swagger, Ballin' n' Brawlin'





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