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[AsianJoyKiller]

Baraqorn, on August 23 2013 - 09:23 AM, said:

You spent that MC on functional equipment. You now want to spend it on cosmetics that you could not get without spending more cash to purchase more MC. Thus, Meteor is losing money from giving you something that is not equivalent to the item you purchased.

Look, relevance.

What a wonderfully dishonest way of putting it.

That is not losing money. That is not making new money. Which is not the same thing. Like I said before, being compensated in MC is not the same as getting a refund, because HWK still has my money and it's not like I can use MC on anything other than Hawken.

[diablodevil2]

Hate to be that guy, but it kinda says right there in the Meteor Credits page;

"[font=Play]Meteor Credits are a virtual currency and cannot be exchanged for real money or for any other goods or services, except for Meteor Entertainment game content. Meteor Credits are non-refundable under any circumstances."[/font]

To me, it seems that since it's against Meteor policy to refund those, ever, they're doing what they can do by refunding it in HC.

Edited by diablodevil2, August 23 2013 - 10:10 AM.

[AsianJoyKiller]

diablodevil2, on August 23 2013 - 10:09 AM, said:

Hate to be that guy, but it kinda says right there in the Meteor Credits page;

"Meteor Credits are a virtual currency and cannot be exchanged for real money or for any other goods or services, except for Meteor Entertainment game content. Meteor Credits are non-refundable under any circumstances."

To me, it seems that since it's against Meteor policy to refund those, ever, they're doing what they can do by refunding it in HC.

As I understand it, that means once you buy MC you can't get your money back, which is not what is being asked for.
A refund means the seller paying you back money for goods or services.

EDIT: We are not asking to have our money returned to us. What we are asking for is the reallocation of MC for items that will no longer exist.

The MC remains purchased. As I've pointed out before, it means that HWK still has our money (thus not a refund) and MC is not usable outside of Hawken.

Edited by AsianJoyKiller, August 23 2013 - 10:31 AM.

[diablodevil2]

Well, it feels like it could be read either way, and then maybe it should be assumed that is meant to be read both ways. Perhaps we'll see depending on what the official call is.

[draco7891]

All of this is likely due to HWK not keeping track of which currency the user used to purchase an item. For dual-currency items, I doubt there is even a transaction record for each purchase, just a unlock hash that gets updated to say which items are legal for use on the account.

HWK doesn't know what you used to make the purchase; fact is, they don't care, and they're not going to waste their time trying to verify it with you, or worse, trusting everyone to be honest and honorable about telling them what they did and did not buy in MC.

So, they're offering equivalent purchasing power within the category of item purchased. This is the best, and only solution to the problem.

Y'all can stop going around in circles like turkeys in a rainstorm now.

Draco

[AsianJoyKiller]

draco7891, on August 23 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

Y'all can stop going around in circles like turkeys in a rainstorm now.

Dude. My classes don't start for another week.

[N0stalgia]

Quit being diffucult. You buy MC_ Yes_ You spent those MC_ Yes_ Those MC are GONE. Tough. Deal with it. *puts on shades.* Be glad they give you HC back for previous internal purchases.

[ropefish]

i like caterpillars
i wish that i could buy caterpillar mechs though :T

[Dackstrus]

N0stalgia, on August 23 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

Quit being diffucult. You buy MC_ Yes_ You spent those MC_ Yes_ Those MC are GONE. Tough. Deal with it. *puts on shades.* Be glad they give you HC back for previous internal purchases.

Oh.. That's nice and all, but i'm not even asking about internals.

Can pull foot out of face whenever you like. Though it's more fitting if you keep it in.

[hendman]

I already posted what i think on the "we demand a refund for MC" topic.

The only reason i can see to refund any MC is already brought forward by h0B0: from a customer relations viewpoint it would make sense to refund the MC, but it must be possible to track the transaction. Then again, as draco7891 pointed out, those records might not even exist.

While we debate(d) the issue (or going around like turkeys in rainstorm as someone put it), an official statement on the exact reason why only HC is refunded would have cleared this matter up days ago.

[hendman]

Dackstrus, on August 23 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

N0stalgia, on August 23 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

Quit being diffucult. You buy MC_ Yes_ You spent those MC_ Yes_ Those MC are GONE. Tough. Deal with it. *puts on shades.* Be glad they give you HC back for previous internal purchases.

Oh.. That's nice and all, but i'm not even asking about internals.

Can pull foot out of face whenever you like. Though it's more fitting if you keep it in.

Then what are you asking about_ If it is about items that can only be bought with MC then the answer is simple: you get to keep those. Camo's will stay on your mechs, any consumables will carry over, any active booster will remain active after the migration, any xp/hc earned with earlier boosters will carry over.

[Dackstrus]

hendman, on August 23 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

Dackstrus, on August 23 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

N0stalgia, on August 23 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

Quit being diffucult. You buy MC_ Yes_ You spent those MC_ Yes_ Those MC are GONE. Tough. Deal with it. *puts on shades.* Be glad they give you HC back for previous internal purchases.

Oh.. That's nice and all, but i'm not even asking about internals.

Can pull foot out of face whenever you like. Though it's more fitting if you keep it in.

Then what are you asking about_ If it is about items that can only be bought with MC then the answer is simple: you get to keep those. Camo's will stay on your mechs, any consumables will carry over, any active booster will remain active after the migration, any xp/hc earned with earlier boosters will carry over.

Oh... So you haven't even read the thread... Why do I bother arguing with people...

[AsianJoyKiller]

Dackstrus, on August 23 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

Why do I bother arguing with people...

Do you have more valuable things to do with your time_
I spend so much time on the forums because it's just time I'd be wasting on something else otherwise. I don't much care where I waste it.

Edited by AsianJoyKiller, August 23 2013 - 01:57 PM.

[hendman]

Dackstrus, on August 23 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

hendman, on August 23 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

Dackstrus, on August 23 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

N0stalgia, on August 23 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

Quit being diffucult. You buy MC_ Yes_ You spent those MC_ Yes_ Those MC are GONE. Tough. Deal with it. *puts on shades.* Be glad they give you HC back for previous internal purchases.

Oh.. That's nice and all, but i'm not even asking about internals.

Can pull foot out of face whenever you like. Though it's more fitting if you keep it in.

Then what are you asking about_ If it is about items that can only be bought with MC then the answer is simple: you get to keep those. Camo's will stay on your mechs, any consumables will carry over, any active booster will remain active after the migration, any xp/hc earned with earlier boosters will carry over.

Oh... So you haven't even read the thread... Why do I bother arguing with people...

It is 5 pages long and growing, besides your question was already answered days ago by Zamboni on page 3. You keep your mechs (so no need for a refund to begin with) and you get some duplicate ones......isn't that nice!

[h0B0]

On the topic of turkeys in the rainstorm.

Did you know that before whoever founded the USA settle on the bald eagle as their national animal they were in favor of choosing the wild turkey_

From some website:

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Bald eagles will take advantage of carrion (dead and decaying flesh), giving it a scavenger image, which causes some people to dislike eagles.

Honestly i couldn't care less about having my MC refunded, i have over 15k in my account right now.

All i wanted to say was that HWK could have done better. Maybe i am wrong, but i haven't seen a single person proclaim they would rather have HC over MC.

[Sylhiri]

h0B0, on August 23 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

All i wanted to say was that HWK could have done better. Maybe i am wrong, but i haven't seen a single person proclaim they would rather have HC over MC.

I would rather have HC so that I can increase my horde of HC, which I have for no reason at all.

Now edit that sentence >:0

Edited by Sylhiri, August 23 2013 - 02:33 PM.

[Leonhardt]

h0B0, on August 23 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

On the topic of turkeys in the rainstorm.

Did you know that before whoever founded the USA settle on the bald eagle as their national animal they were in favor of choosing the wild turkey_

Benjamin Franklin was the one to propose that if I remember my early American history (which I do since its one of my favorite subjects). lol

There are a lot of funny stories revolving around the founding fathers of the US,

[draco7891]

AsianJoyKiller, on August 23 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

Do you have more valuable things to do with your time_
I spend so much time on the forums because it's just time I'd be wasting on something else otherwise. I don't much care where I waste it.

Can I make an honest suggestion that, if you truly have nothing better to do with your time and don't care where you spend it, you go find some volunteer opportunities and waste your time there instead_ I'm sure somewhere there are homeless that need to be fed, library books that need to be stacked, little kids that need to be mentored, elderly that need companionship, or animals that need to be played with.

You know, instead of wasting your time trolling the forums for a game you no longer play.

Just a thought.

Draco

[TheLongTwitch]

With all posts considered, I live in South Africa
...which is still to see a viable MC purchase system.

Being a self sufficient student means i don't have a credit card, nor access to one.
Or much spending money in that case either

Cutting most of the dabble short:
The small amount of MC i did manage to acquire (1 giveaway and 1 Nvidia code from a mate), is likely to be the only MC i see for months, if not longer
and I'm sure I speak for most, saying that i really do appreciate the HC return (may have more use than we think with the new patch)
BUT
Now that I've leveled a few mech's, I'd seriously love to buy something unique for my favorites, and wish i hadn't spent my rare and precious MC (speaking as a South African)

Otherwise I'm still loving the game and can't wait to see whats coming!!!
Keep up the epic work

[Dackstrus]

AsianJoyKiller, on August 23 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

Dackstrus, on August 23 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

Why do I bother arguing with people...

Do you have more valuable things to do with your time_
I spend so much time on the forums because it's just time I'd be wasting on something else otherwise. I don't much care where I waste it.

I should have more valuable things to do with my time.. Sadly i spend most of it reading fuzzy bunny on the net.

But still, I should know better then to waste my near worthless time trying to fix stupid. Nothing ever beats stupid. It just doesn't understand..