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[SoldierHobbes11]

I personally don't use items to boost my offensive capability. After all, it only works a limited amount of times and I don't want my fighting ability to have to depend on something like that. I tend to only use items to enhance survival or escape when I end up in a bad situation.

[Lightangel112]

If you wanted this tactic is perfectly valid.

Repair to full, fully dmg yourself, you get a death via pilot error but get your items back scott free.

Edited by Lightangel112, May 01 2014 - 02:39 AM.

[Meraple]

Lightangel112, on May 01 2014 - 02:38 AM, said:

If you wanted this tactic is perfectly valid.

Repair to full, fully dmg yourself, you get a death via pilot error but get your items back scott free.

oh nu my kdr is fokked up halp

[MomOw]

Even though I use them, I don't like damage dealing items. BTW EMP is better for both offense and defense.

[XPloyt]

If you don't have at least 2 shields equipped on an A or B mech, you're missing out, as it can be used for cover for you or a teammate, creating or closing gaps, causing enemy to do self-damage, or all at the same time.

The detonator seems to pair best with the Infiltrator, which is probably why I've never decided to get rid of it. In most cases it's like small padding to put you back in the fight, because you're vulnerable waiting for your secondary to reload.

[SatelliteJack]

Nine out of ten posts are probably going to have "it depends" somewhere in them, including this one. It really does depend on what mech you play, and how you play it. For me, I love the Reaper, and the Det is an excellent "OMG WHERE DID YOU COME FROM PANIC BUTTON" attack. Conversely, the HE is a great thing to throw into a fight to spread the damage on a cluster of targets. Items are best used as a last resort/tactical effort, not so much as a part of of your regular playstyle.

[Abanomex]

I run an assault G2 with DET-III,  a vanguard with DET-II, and a reaper with DET-II, it depends on the playstyle,  it really helps, even if it doesnt make a lot of damage, it has saved me countless times when i was overheated, it is easy to hit with, and also it makes a huge fire screen that covers their vision for a second, enough to disorient the use of a secondary from the enemy.

[Call_Me_Ishmael]

I get a kick out of watching dets wipe out repairing mechs on Origin, during Siege, as I do one of my rare launch-pad-to-top-of-AA assaults on the enemy holding the top.

That's about the only time I really use it - I used to depend on it and do dumb things as a result, as was posted upthread.

[ASneakyFox]

he charge can do more damage but its a little harder to use, detonator is a little easier to use (especially if hovering) but does less damage. they both perform the same sort of function. you can use them to turn the tides of a 1v1 battle. it wont wreck the other mech but it does just enough damage to make sure they go down first.

other items can provide more unique advantages. for instance instead of hitting your opponent with a detonator you hit them with an ism disruptor. now theyre blind and cant shoot back, and if its a team fight you might be able to ring multiple mechs with that one frisbee.

i typically bring he/det on my burst damage mechs to have an even higher burst potential, and use various other items on my sustained combat mechs.

Edited by ASneakyFox, May 15 2014 - 09:36 AM.

[flipperj21]

well... good place to learn something about items as a newbie!

[DiesInMud]

ASneakyFox, on May 15 2014 - 09:35 AM, said:

you hit them with an ism disruptor. now theyre blind and cant shoot back

As for that, I don't think you're unable to shoot. You're only blind. (Which is quite effective on its own, of course.)
But whenever I get hit by an ISM-Disruptor I just keep shooting.

Well, I think what SatelliteJack said is probably going to be for me. Just started playing Sharpshooter and I often feel the urge to fire an explosive into the face of some scout or infiltrator that just showed up behind me. Them sneaky little bastards!

And as I haven't played it yet, can someone tell me whether H.E.-Charge does behave like an ordinary grenade or differently_
Thinking about getting a Det for the Sharpshooter ...

[Goyo]

I prefer HE.  It behaves a little differently than it used to in that you cannot charge it for increased velocity and a more flat trajectory.  It does behave exactly like a grenade.  You can even detonate it midair by pressing your use item button a second time.  HE charges are wonky to use on a lot of maps because of uneven floor geometry (origin) and you are liable to get bouncebacks and damage yourself,  but I like them.  Have em on all my mechs.

I get that warm fuzzy feeling if I get a midair kill with an HE charge.  Dunno why, small victories I guess.

Edit: Death messages used to be more interesting when it displayed what weapon killed you.  Stuff like midair Heat, EOC and HE charge kills seemed like exclamation points.

Edited by Goyo, May 31 2014 - 03:07 PM.

[TwentyFirstPilot]

Goyo, on May 31 2014 - 02:58 PM, said:

Edit: Death messages used to be more interesting when it displayed what weapon killed you.  Stuff like midair Heat, EOC and HE charge kills seemed like exclamation points.

What do you mean by that_ I'm pretty sure they still do on the killfeed and on the deathcam.

[EliteShooter]

EMPPPPP

[EM1O]

Mk3 Det + Mk1 emp (or vice versa, depending on the mech), usually only on A-class as in "WTFwasThat__" then a ticktockticktockBOOm from a RPR-Reaper....good for burst damage/Alpha killthrills, or guaranteed boogering a DeathBall clogging up the AA.

Edited by EM1O, June 08 2014 - 09:14 PM.

[Kopra]

[MushyMoosh]

Detonator is really overrated. I've used it in clutch moments (5 seconds left and scoring a triple kill with det+tow). The surprise factor is also underrated; the huge explosion usually clouds their vision and startles them causing them to miss. I've turned around 10% vs 100% hp enemies using it.

[Moreapples]

MushyMoosh, on June 15 2014 - 08:07 PM, said:

Detonator is really overrated. I've used it in clutch moments (5 seconds left and scoring a triple kill with det+tow). The surprise factor is also underrated; the huge explosion usually clouds their vision and startles them causing them to miss. I've turned around 10% vs 100% hp enemies using it.

against scrubs_
ok

[MushyMoosh]

Moreapples, on June 16 2014 - 09:44 AM, said:

MushyMoosh, on June 15 2014 - 08:07 PM, said:

Detonator is really overrated. I've used it in clutch moments (5 seconds left and scoring a triple kill with det+tow). The surprise factor is also underrated; the huge explosion usually clouds their vision and startles them causing them to miss. I've turned around 10% vs 100% hp enemies using it.

against scrubs_
ok

2200+ rooms

[Skrill]

Always buy tactical.
Scanner = wallhacks
Emp = enemy team shutdown button (just throw it at a group and someone will hit it )
Repair kit = jumbo sized health orb
Scrambler = severely limits the opponents radar by causing a ton of false positives

The small increase in damage gained by carrying a Det or HE is overshadowed by almost every other item.