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[TwentyFirstPilot]

To anyone who owns both: What's the Infil like compared to the Pred_ I've thought about buying one for those times when my Pred isn't the best choice.

Edited by TwentyFirstPilot, June 21 2014 - 10:23 AM.

[Moreapples]

Infiltrator can boost while cloaked.
This makes the class useful for fast assasinations.

Infil is easier to use imo.
Any of the three weapons are usable with it, but I'd reccomend the Heat or EOC.
EOC rounds travel too slowly to be reliable in direct encounters, but has the highest burst.
Heat synergizes a bit awkward with the GL thanks to their opposite natures, but you'll get used to it after a while.
AR works, but I wouldn't reccomend it because burst is king.

Edited by Moreapples, June 21 2014 - 10:33 AM.

[TwentyFirstPilot]

Moreapples, on June 21 2014 - 10:32 AM, said:

Infiltrator can boost while cloaked.
This makes the class useful for fast assasinations.

Infil is easier to use imo.
Any of the three weapons are usable with it, but I'd reccomend the Heat or EOC.
EOC rounds travel too slowly to be reliable in direct encounters, but has the highest burst.
Heat synergizes a bit awkward with the GL thanks to their opposite natures, but you'll get used to it after a while.
AR works, but I wouldn't reccomend it because burst is king.

Alright. Yeah, I as well dislike sustained damage weapons.

What other mechs would you note as difficult to play_ High skill floor, high skill cap, that sort of thing.

[SoldierHobbes11]

TwentyFirstPilot, on June 21 2014 - 11:18 AM, said:

Moreapples, on June 21 2014 - 10:32 AM, said:

Infiltrator can boost while cloaked.
This makes the class useful for fast assasinations.

Infil is easier to use imo.
Any of the three weapons are usable with it, but I'd reccomend the Heat or EOC.
EOC rounds travel too slowly to be reliable in direct encounters, but has the highest burst.
Heat synergizes a bit awkward with the GL thanks to their opposite natures, but you'll get used to it after a while.
AR works, but I wouldn't reccomend it because burst is king.

Alright. Yeah, I as well dislike sustained damage weapons.

What other mechs would you note as difficult to play_ High skill floor, high skill cap, that sort of thing.

The raider is definitely tough to use and master. Less forgiving than an infiltrator but more reliable than a predator.

[Moreapples]

TwentyFirstPilot, on June 21 2014 - 11:18 AM, said:

-Snipperz-

What other mechs would you note as difficult to play_ High skill floor, high skill cap, that sort of thing.

Raider, G2 Raider are the ones that come to my mind.
Sadly there aren't a whole lot of hard mechs in HAWKEN imo.

Weird thing is, the Predator and both Raiders are my favorite mechs, along with the easy-mode PPA Incinerator.


If you want some Raider gameplay I could upload some in a week or so.
I outscored even ker4u piloting a Raider in a testdrive Raider a while ago, when we were a full six-man team of Raiders.

Edited by Moreapples, June 21 2014 - 11:48 AM.

[TwentyFirstPilot]

SoldierHobbes11, on June 21 2014 - 11:31 AM, said:

The raider is definitely tough to use and master. Less forgiving than an infiltrator but more reliable than a predator.

Alright. I've thought about going for the Raider, but I've heard that its playstyle is similar to the Predator in that it's a flanker. Not that I dislike that playstyle, but if I'm buying a new mech I'd rather it be one that performs a new duty. Is that the case_ Also, in what ways is it more reliable than the Pred_

Moreapples, on June 21 2014 - 11:45 AM, said:

Raider, G2 Raider are the ones that come to my mind.
Sadly there aren't a whole lot of hard mechs in HAWKEN imo.

Weird thing is, the Predator and both Raiders are my favorite mechs, along with the easy-mode PPA Incinerator.


If you want some Raider gameplay I could upload some in a week or so.
I outscored even ker4u piloting a Raider in a testdrive Raider a while ago, when we were a full six-man team of Raiders.

Alright. If you happen to record while playing the Raider, I wouldn't mind that, but don't go out of your way for me.

Edited by TwentyFirstPilot, June 21 2014 - 01:47 PM.

[SoldierHobbes11]

TwentyFirstPilot, on June 21 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

SoldierHobbes11, on June 21 2014 - 11:31 AM, said:

The raider is definitely tough to use and master. Less forgiving than an infiltrator but more reliable than a predator.

Alright. I've thought about going for the Raider, but I've heard that its playstyle is similar to the Predator in that it's a flanker. Not that I dislike that playstyle, but if I'm buying a new mech I'd rather it be one that performs a new duty. Is that the case_ Also, in what ways is it more reliable than the Pred_

Raider doesn't rely as heavily on stealth when it comes to flanking like the Predator does. The Raider is very speedy. With it's Blitz ability, it can rush through an enemy line, take out a weakened target and GTFO before the enemy team can retaliate. Raider plays very differently than a predator does. Click my sig and look for my raider video to get an idea of what it's like. But all in all, the Raider is a close range bully. As for how it's more reliable, it's due to the fact that the weapons are (relatively) easier to land.

[Lightangel112]

Yes that is what makes Predator so hard to use and master. It's weapons aren't that easy to hit your target with.

[m0bieduck]

Pred is easy, unless you are playing against the pred god rageangel112.




WOOOOOOOORSHIP

[TwentyFirstPilot]

SoldierHobbes11, on June 21 2014 - 01:59 PM, said:

TwentyFirstPilot, on June 21 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

SoldierHobbes11, on June 21 2014 - 11:31 AM, said:

The raider is definitely tough to use and master. Less forgiving than an infiltrator but more reliable than a predator.

Alright. I've thought about going for the Raider, but I've heard that its playstyle is similar to the Predator in that it's a flanker. Not that I dislike that playstyle, but if I'm buying a new mech I'd rather it be one that performs a new duty. Is that the case_ Also, in what ways is it more reliable than the Pred_

Raider doesn't rely as heavily on stealth when it comes to flanking like the Predator does. The Raider is very speedy. With it's Blitz ability, it can rush through an enemy line, take out a weakened target and GTFO before the enemy team can retaliate. Raider plays very differently than a predator does. Click my sig and look for my raider video to get an idea of what it's like. But all in all, the Raider is a close range bully. As for how it's more reliable, it's due to the fact that the weapons are (relatively) easier to land.

Checked it out, looks interesting. Blitzing into a group of weakened enemies looks enormously fun. I do a similar thing with my Pred, when the situation presents itself, but it looks like those situations present themselves far more often if you're in a Raider.

Lightangel112, on June 21 2014 - 03:26 PM, said:

Yes that is what makes Predator so hard to use and master. It's weapons aren't that easy to hit your target with.

And also that it's a fairly slow mech_ At any rate, it feels slow when I'm boosting away from three enemy pilots after a failed flank.

[Moreapples]

Is G2 Raider gameplay fine as well_
Not feeling like playing original Raidhurr atm.

TwentyFirstPilot, on June 21 2014 - 06:59 PM, said:

SoldierHobbes11, on June 21 2014 - 01:59 PM, said:

TwentyFirstPilot, on June 21 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

SoldierHobbes11, on June 21 2014 - 11:31 AM, said:

The raider is definitely tough to use and master. Less forgiving than an infiltrator but more reliable than a predator.

Alright. I've thought about going for the Raider, but I've heard that its playstyle is similar to the Predator in that it's a flanker. Not that I dislike that playstyle, but if I'm buying a new mech I'd rather it be one that performs a new duty. Is that the case_ Also, in what ways is it more reliable than the Pred_

Raider doesn't rely as heavily on stealth when it comes to flanking like the Predator does. The Raider is very speedy. With it's Blitz ability, it can rush through an enemy line, take out a weakened target and GTFO before the enemy team can retaliate. Raider plays very differently than a predator does. Click my sig and look for my raider video to get an idea of what it's like. But all in all, the Raider is a close range bully. As for how it's more reliable, it's due to the fact that the weapons are (relatively) easier to land.

Checked it out, looks interesting. Blitzing into a group of weakened enemies looks enormously fun. I do a similar thing with my Pred, when the situation presents itself, but it looks like those situations present themselves far more often if you're in a Raider.

G2 Raider is alot more fun, and alot harder as well.

[Moreapples]

Apparently OBS > YT doesn't allow 720p videos for some reason.



Did horribad in the beginning.

Edited by Moreapples, June 22 2014 - 04:58 AM.

[Hijinks_The_Turtle]

Wow, this thread grew since the last time I checked. o.O  It's great to see awesome predator videos!  Too bad I can't record my own games, my laptop can't handle it.

[Lightangel112]

Hijinks_The_Turtle, on June 22 2014 - 05:49 PM, said:

Wow, this thread grew since the last time I checked. o.O  It's great to see awesome predator videos!  Too bad I can't record my own games, my laptop can't handle it.

Yes, thread has grown a lot . Minor touches made to the guide and nothing else to add but lots of videos and showcasing how we all use Predator differently. Meraple loves CQC and using Flak Shots more than snipe shots, though he has gotten better at sniping with breacher. Memag loves hitting foes with pucks while flying in the air followed by a finishing breacher shot. I like using burst combo's as my signature move and using corner play with traps while using AC to play aggressively.

Edited by Lightangel112, June 23 2014 - 12:35 PM.

[TwentyFirstPilot]

Lightangel112, on June 23 2014 - 12:28 PM, said:

Hijinks_The_Turtle, on June 22 2014 - 05:49 PM, said:

Wow, this thread grew since the last time I checked. o.O  It's great to see awesome predator videos!  Too bad I can't record my own games, my laptop can't handle it.

Yes, thread has grown a lot . Minor touches made to the guide and nothing else to add but lots of videos and showcasing how we all use Predator differently. Meraple loves CQC and using Flak Shots more than snipe shots, though he has gotten better at sniping with breacher. Memag loves hitting foes with pucks while flying in the air followed by a finishing breacher shot. I like using burst combo's as my signature move and using corner play with traps while using AC to play aggressively.

I think it's really neat the the Pred allows such alterations between playstyles.

[AboveTheSky]

I lag so much can"t use predator so good anymore

But i use 3 diferent play style in same time while using predator

I will make a video soon

"Predator 1-1 returning to prosk command center ,over"

Edited by AboveTheSky, June 26 2014 - 09:25 PM.

[xeroslash]

So I took a small break due to sales and such, but I still play every now and then. I'll see if I can record a few matches in the coming days, but I've been rusty, so we'll see...

It's nice to see more people involved!

Moreapples said:

I think I might have a recording of that match, this was from awhile ago right_ All six ragequitting...

[Hijinks_The_Turtle]

I had a few good DM rounds with Infil and Pred!  Me and this other Predator pilot had a staring contest for 10 seconds straight.  What did we do after that_ I initiated the gentleman greeting of bowing, and as he bowed, I kinda killed him.  (Sorry man, couldn't help it!)  The awesome part was when we just tolerated each other and left each other alone while killing other pilots.  So we were kinda sorta working together... XD  Didn't matter anyway, I was 3rd place in that match while the other guy was 4th.  After killing some time, we did the bowing thing again while watching the other pilots slaughtering each other while cleaning them up.  It was the most awesome thing ever.

[mmm_yep]

Hijinks_The_Turtle, on July 01 2014 - 11:20 AM, said:

we just tolerated each other and left each other alone while killing other pilots.

The unwritten Predator code. Thou shalt not kill thy fellow stealthed Predator.

Edited by mmm_yep, July 01 2014 - 01:55 PM.

[TwentyFirstPilot]

mmm_yep, on July 01 2014 - 01:54 PM, said:

Hijinks_The_Turtle, on July 01 2014 - 11:20 AM, said:

we just tolerated each other and left each other alone while killing other pilots.

The unwritten Predator code. Thou shalt not kill thy fellow stealthed Predator.

I gleefully break this rule all the time. If there's a Predator on the other team, I make him my prime target. I don't want him to wuit the mech or anything, it's just that targeting him is the best way to keep me and my team safe.

As I know what sort of wild shenanigans a Predator can get in to if it's left unchecked.