49 replies to this topic

[Zycat]

I don't. Even with heavier mechs or sniper/stalker mechs I still use Air Compressor.

The only thing where I don't use air compressor is in Co-Op.

[ReEvolve]

Well, I never bought an air compressor.

Edited by ReEvolve, April 12 2014 - 10:50 PM.

[Zdragow]

Yes.

All the time. Forever.

[Bazookagofer]

I feel handi capped if i dont have it... the amount of utility from it is just ridiculous... it also makes some weapons a lot lot harder to use example rev gl

[hendman]

 Zycat, on April 12 2014 - 08:47 PM, said:

I don't. Even with heavier mechs or sniper/stalker mechs I still use Air Compressor.

The only thing where I don't use air compressor is in Co-Op.

This pretty much sums up what is wrong with the air compressor. Any mech/internal/item that feels like it is mandatory is unbalanced.

[reVelske]

I don't bother with it on my Reaper and Raider, feels redundant for them since I feel more comfortable sticking to ground combat.

[Meraple]

I used to use it on my EOC Raider, untill I noticed I didn't need it at all anymore.
Don't use it on my Scout anymore either.

I used to use it on all of my mechs.
By now, the only mechs I use it on are my Cr-T, Infiltrator and BOLT Raider.

Edited by Meraple, April 13 2014 - 01:10 AM.

[EliteShooter]

 ReEvolve, on April 12 2014 - 09:06 PM, said:

Well, I never bought an air compressor.

OUCH

[Zdragow]

 EliteShooter, on April 13 2014 - 06:52 AM, said:

 ReEvolve, on April 12 2014 - 09:06 PM, said:

Well, I never bought an air compressor.

OUCH

Just like ReEvolve, I have never bought one either. I have no need for one. It just feels gimmicky.

[Rei]

The biggest advantage air compressor gives is that you can land earlier and change your trajectory from jump pads, (pretty huge on those maps tbh). A lot of other advantages are mostly from people's inexperience to deal with them. The other advantage is that it makes weapons that can't detonated mid-air (also non-hitscan) really hard to hit on said enemy.

That being said, I don't use it for the most part. Sharpshooter I have replenisher already, mostly useful for A classes imo. I have one on reaper and my tech. I don't use it on my infil because of fuel requirements and how I play infiltrator doesn't mesh well with it.

[Madman01]

every mech I have has one, i don't even start playing a new mech until i put an air compressor on it

[Lightangel112]

When I run out of fuel is one!
I use it on most of my mechs!

[Madman01]

why would you NOT have air compressor_    seriously, have I somehow missed a more useful internal_  is there any reason what so ever not to have one_

[reVelske]

Some of us find air combat to be gimmicky and to put it crudely: fuzzy bunny retarded.

Besides, real man ground dodges and learns to aim without the aid of altitude advantage.

Are you a real enough man to not use Air Compressor_

Edited by reVelske, April 15 2014 - 01:05 PM.

[nokari]

I think I've tried using Air Compressor in one match. Not really my thing.

[TTU_Phoenix]

I got it for my Bruiser, but took it off in favor of the Replenisher.  Just felt off to me, and I had trouble handling it.  When/if I get a Scout I'll probably get one for it, maybe one or two others.  In general I don't like to fight in the air; I feel it makes me too vulnerable, and taking down an Air Compressor mech isn't that much harder than normal (sometimes easier if they dodge badly) so I don't feel like it would help most of my mechs.  Especially for mechs that depend on precise aiming (like the Reaper I'm using now) I feel like it would be seriously counterproductive.

[SectionZ]

Air Compressor is how I took my negative KDR on my Berserker, and flipped it over into 2.33 KDR with just shy of three hours Berserker playtime.



Air compressor is the only internal I have on my Berserker right now.  Imagine if I had Deflectors or something.  On a full tank I have just enough fuel to air dodge four times before I drop, three easy when not deliberately trying to quad dodge for the sake of it.

However, I do not use it on my Infiltrator because I prefer more sneaky ground play or straightforward mid range stuff.  A vanguard can make good use of the Air Compressor at times, but for the most part C classes are too fat to take real advantage of it.  But any A or B class primarily about in your face combat, you are so much worse off without the Air Compressor unless you have other needs for those three internal slots.

[Gabbahead]

On turret modded C-class at AA defense

[Meraple]

 SectionZ, on April 15 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:

But any A or B class primarily about in your face combat, you are so much worse off without the Air Compressor unless you have other needs for those three internal slots.

Lolno.
Air Compressor actually gives you a handicap when using it, if the enemy is experienced at dealing with AC users.

It CONSUMES FUEL when DODGING, thus giving you even less fuel then before.


It's only effective against people who don't know how to counter it.

[SectionZ]

 Meraple, on April 16 2014 - 02:14 AM, said:

 SectionZ, on April 15 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:

But any A or B class primarily about in your face combat, you are so much worse off without the Air Compressor unless you have other needs for those three internal slots.

Lolno.
Air Compressor actually gives you a handicap when using it, if the enemy is experienced at dealing with AC users.

It CONSUMES FUEL when DODGING, thus giving you even less fuel then before.


It's only effective against people who don't know how to counter it.

Fortunately for me, it seems the people who know how to "counter" it seem to be in short supply compared to those who don't. While the amount of fuel the Air Compressor takes is incredibly tiny and is only a problem if you are trying to kill multiple people all by yourself while staying in the air.

You're going to actually say how to counter it, right_  Or is it just a vague 'get good'_ and the secret is to not guess wrong which direction I will dodge, and be able to recorrect your aim and snap off an explosive within the 1 second I can dodge back out of the way again_  If there was some easy hard counter then I wouldn't be having such an easier time with compared to without.

I mean sure, we got players who can apparently get five dominations at once with scout and no air compressor lurking around here.  But for the most part "Do I need something more than air compressor on this Mech, Y/N_" is the only reason not to have one aside from not wanting to spend the HC (see also, my cheapskate tendencies with my HC).

A brawler might live, but a Vanguard or Assault more often explodes before I touch the ground.  Two air dodges helps a lot, three is easily doable but often times excessive except for that last moment or to hurl yourself behind cover if they didn't die.

EDIT: In hindsight, in and out of game it seems a lot of the counter "arguments" to my pointing out I've had a much easier time on my Zerker now that I use air compressor is basically "Only Idiots have trouble with/Need X"... Which does not bode well for a lot of the playerbase if true.

Edited by SectionZ, April 16 2014 - 06:12 AM.