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The new, rewritten version of The Ultimate Predator Guide:

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Anyhow, here's what you came for:

 

The Basics:

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Movement and Positioning:    
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Opportunities:
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Ability: Stalker Mode:

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Enhanced Stalker Vision Tweak: [Recently Updated]

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Primary: Breacher:

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Primary: T32-BOLT:

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Primary: EOC Repeater:

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Secondary: EOC Predator:

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Overheating:
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Items and Applications:
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Internals:
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Other good internals:

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Internal movement speed:

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Playing Styles:

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Builds & Setups: [Update Pending]
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Tactics:
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Trap Setting:

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Fighting Different Classes:
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Ambushing:
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Alpha Strike:

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Overall Tips:
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Teamspeak:

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Game Modes:
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Old gameplay videos:

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Personal opinion about the Predator:

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Comments on how it can be improved, input, suggestions, constructive criticism, etc. are all welcome.


Edited by (KDR) Meraple, 31 January 2016 - 02:32 AM.

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It's baaa-aaack! :D

 

I'm glad this is back again - It'll help a lot of noobs.


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wow...really great tips :) now i can play Freedator  :thumbsup:


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wow...really great tips :) now i can play Freedator  :thumbsup:

 

You think you can play Fredator, punk?

Hmmm?

You've never even lived, you cheeky scout-maining skrubl0rd.

 

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You think you can play Fredator, punk?

Hmmm?

You've never even lived, you cheeky scout-maining skrubl0rd.

 

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look how sexy is this 

 

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we r coming for u............

 

 

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Another useful tip for Predator: Don't die. I've preached it for decades, it's as simple as that.



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Another useful tip for Predator: Don't die. I've preached it for decades, it's as simple as that.

Played correctly, Breacher Pred dies a max of once-twice per match imo.

 

 

(I suck at recognizing jokes)


Edited by Meraple, 22 March 2015 - 07:45 AM.

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Played correctly, Breacher Pred dies a max of once-twice per match imo.

 

Agreed, however, it was just meant as a joke. Played correctly every Mech just dies only once or twice per match ^^ (except Technician of course)



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Maybe also add this tip:

 

If possible, avoid standing on top of anything (Like the AA, or a high ledge) while cloaked - for mechs on the ground below you, the shimmer is much easier to spot when outlined against the featureless sky.


Edited by FlamingBeaker, 22 March 2015 - 07:56 PM.


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I'd like to add that shock coil to remove fall damage will then allow you to fall in predator mode and not be knocked out of it thanks to the damage.

 

Also advanced reconstructer can be quite nice to heal while invisible.


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Don't trust this guy, he didn't even know which buttons to use to shoot with his mech 2 days ago and now he can play Predator?

 

 

 

 

I'm happy to see the guide back  :tongue:


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Edited by KilleR_OrigiNs, 30 April 2015 - 10:46 PM.

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It was actually my first concern that this guide was lost when the servers went down, which may be strange, but it was seriously the biggest help in getting my Predator from a .5 K/D to a 2.14 or whatever. It's not the best, and I'm still learning (relearning) it, but hey, if you follow this guide, it pays for itself.

*Side note* re-reading again because all hail Meraple.

Here I am sitting with a .86ish K/D.  Ah well, I play Pred for the luls and fun.  Not to mention, it feels awesome sitting in a heat vision mech.


Edited by Hijinks_The_Turtle, 28 March 2015 - 05:43 AM.

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Edited by KilleR_OrigiNs, 30 April 2015 - 10:46 PM.


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Pretty nice that this bible of stealth murders is back online. Restudied it again and found many principles i've forgotten months ago. Restarted playing the Pred a few days ago, and sucked like hell due 2 many mistakes i made. After facing Meraples guide again, it will get much easier 4 me 2 play it better again. Thx-a-lot Meraple. ...btw - playing with you was a lection worth taking. However - playing against you... well... should be avoided best... (lol)

 

great respect 2 you

 

regards,

 

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Maybe also add this tip:

 

If possible, avoid standing on top of anything (Like the AA, or a high ledge) while cloaked - for mechs on the ground below you, the shimmer is much easier to spot when outlined against the featureless sky.

I was hoping that'd be obvious, but I'll add it.

(I actually forgot, lol)

 

 

I'd like to add that shock coil to remove fall damage will then allow you to fall in predator mode and not be knocked out of it thanks to the damage.

 

Also advanced reconstructer can be quite nice to heal while invisible.

Both are included.

 

 

Don't trust this guy, he didn't even know which buttons to use to shoot with his mech 2 days ago and now he can play Predator?

 

 

 

 

I'm happy to see the guide back  :tongue:

Predator is like kinder garten, except more like the most difficult mech in the game than a child's playground.

 

 

all hail Meraple.

Truth in it's purest form.

 

 

Ehhh I'll edit the main post in a bit..

A bit as in sometime soon-ish-esque.


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Edited by KilleR_OrigiNs, 30 April 2015 - 10:47 PM.


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Ahem: Fortressed fatty takes a pounding; thankful for it.

May be a little chopped up, but that was pretty much just the greatest find today.

I have included multiple sentences like those throughout the guide intentionally.

Being serious all the time gets boring, y'know?

 

 

So I've noticed that my original play style isn't at all effective any longer, and that when I'm playing enemies now either have a wider range of movement, or I'm not dealing as much damage as I thought I would. Has there been any changes to the amount of damage done, or the movement of enemies recently?

Negatory, neither.

My own playing style with Predator has changed greatly as well, as the former isn't doable for me anymore.

That however, is mostly my own fault.

My aim's not nearly as good anymore as it used to be, which is the biggest contributor to the problem.

 

It could however be that people've learned their movement capabilities are greater than to the extent they used them before.

Yes, people can surprisingly learn.

I'm shocked as well.

 

 

 

EDIT: Damn, I should really get to editing the guide sometime this week lol..


Edited by Meraple, 05 April 2015 - 02:07 AM.

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Edited by KilleR_OrigiNs, 30 April 2015 - 10:47 PM.

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Maybe also add this tip:

 

If possible, avoid standing on top of anything (Like the AA, or a high ledge) while cloaked - for mechs on the ground below you, the shimmer is much easier to spot when outlined against the featureless sky.

Light noted people had a weird sense of humor, and then he pointed me towards your comment.

I'm honestly not too sure if it was a joke.

 

I'm pretty sure it already says in the guide that shadows are key to a Predator's cloak.

 

 

I really need to grow a sense of humor myself so I can differentiate between jokes and serious things.

 

 

REEDITEDS: I fixed 3 typos in the OP, I'm proud of myself and so should you be.


Edited by Meraple, 06 April 2015 - 03:12 AM.

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Hi everyone! Glad to see you all again & are alive and well! :)

 

I'm glad to see the game hasn't died and Meraple informed me he reposted the guide back on here :)

 

Since the game has some new devs we will try out best to make this guide as uptodate as possible with future updates, I guess it's time to rededicate some love back to Hawken again :).

 

Peace out and see you all ingame ;). Shout out to ReVolve!


Edited by Lightangel112, 06 April 2015 - 03:21 AM.

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Ah, the code of the Pred.


Rule #1 Remain forever shameless.


Rule #2 See rule 1.

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Hi everyone! Glad to see you all again & are alive and well! :)

 

I'm glad to see the game hasn't died and Meraple informed me he reposted the guide back on here :)

 

Since the game has some new devs we will try out best to make this guide as uptodate as possible with future updates, I guess it's time to rededicate some love back to Hawken again :).

 

Peace out and see you all ingame ;). Shout out to ReVolve!

Holy hell.  You're alive!



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now we need to make the list of the best preds in game.

i nominate apple man, 3rdeye, lemental, light  other people, morepeople


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now we need to make the list of the best preds in game.

i nominate apple man, 3rdeye, lemental, light  other people, morepeople

I'm bad at Predator, I simply know a decent amount of stuff about it.

I nominate myself as best person ever who has the right to rule the world.



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Great tutorial. Thank You for You job Meraple :)

 

Regards



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Took me months of playing G2 raider then looking at my playtime for my mechs to see that predict had been my favorite. I guess I found it challenging and decided to play it a lot.
Also huge, HUGE props for mentioning teamate healthbars in determining where enemies are and how many. It's so rare for people to use that resource to their advantage.

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I learned a lot from Moreapples and Lightangel on how to properly pilot a Pred. Welcome back, Light!

 

I'm glad to see the Pred Bible online again :D.


Cybrex: Predators hunt from above.

MessyBopzz: like jesus?

Cybrex: Better than jesus

 

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Unfortunately I stopped reading after slide boosting and skimmed from there because that was something I haven't quite considered for movement and this is a really comprehensive guide. But this does seem like a helpful guide as I myself have not really gotten into playing a predator.

 

A suggestion, maybe spoilers for major categories such as Internals, Items, Tactics, etc? 

 

I sure do like jumping into mines though


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A suggestion, maybe spoilers for major categories such as Internals, Items, Tactics, etc?

Good idea, it should get rid of the endless scrolling every time I get into this page.

 

EDIT: The guide has been spoiled.


Edited by Meraple, 09 April 2015 - 12:22 AM.

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I'm bad at Predator, I simply know a decent amount of stuff about it.
I nominate myself as best person ever who has the right to rule the world.

The modesty is real, welcum back cocky apple
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I feel this fits here:

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Credit goes to Spookyjjc


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CRITICAL ASSIST

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Apple got Banananed  :yes:



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I just noticed there's no seperate section on Stalker Vision..

Stalker Vision is one of the best things about Predator, I'll work on it.

 

Seperate Stalker Mode section has been added along with a few other modifications.

 

 

I've also played Predator for a bit.

 

Personal notes:

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Edited by (KDR) Meraple, 18 May 2015 - 03:54 AM.


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I played the pred for many additional waking hours today because of this guide. 

10/10, would sneak again. 


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"Shock Coil dampens the sound of your footsteps as well as cancelling falling damage, both very useful for the Predator."

 

If this is true, to which extent does it dampen the volume of footsteps?

?I thought some guys ,just few weeks back, suggested this to be the new shock coil feature, to lower the volume of footsteps.

 

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Here is a year old recording of my pred play. 

Haven't changed much on it's build except basic extractor for basic failsafe.

I didn't find shock coil to be that useful after all. I will also add that powersurger and evasive device 

are neat speedy pred build internals.

 

 


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"Shock Coil dampens the sound of your footsteps as well as cancelling falling damage, both very useful for the Predator."

 

If this is true, to which extent does it dampen the volume of footsteps?

We two just tested it, it's not true.

OP has been edited.

 

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You should know that the in-game descriptions for almost everything aren't to be blindly trusted. (prime example: fuel converter)

While it is weird that if it's true, it isn't listed, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

Could also be a bug, like the Raider's Blitz giving you the capability to throw item-bukkakes at people.

 

 

I don't bother to test things extensively anymore, but if you'd like to do so, go ahead and I'll edit in your information.

Reason being I'm not too motivated for the game by now - I only play it because I've nothing better to do.

 

 

 

Here is a year old recording of my pred play. 

Haven't changed much on it's build except basic extractor for basic failsafe.

I didn't find shock coil to be that useful after all. I will also add that powersurger and evasive device 

are neat speedy pred build internals.

Shock Coil's listed feature is very map-dependent, and even then highly situational.

 

Personally I roll with Air Compressor, Evasive Device and Basic Deflectors.

I never sit on Orbs with the Pred so an Extractor would be a waste for me.

Item-wise 3x Det 1x Shield, one of the few mechs I don't go 3x Orb on.

 

 

You were a bit spacebar-reliant back then, and your aim's improved by alot as well.

Other than the lag I'd say it's still a pretty good video.


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