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[SatelliteJack]

Greetings, Pilots!

 

Spoiler

 

Remember this guy? Of course you do. Best HAWKEN Axe award winner every year ever. The beloved mascot of this game, and the lovable easygoing little brother of the Assault. There's one little problem. Fred here used to be the starter Charmander wishes he was. But now, he's been shelved, with the Assault taking his place. And this is totally cool, especially given the fact that the Assault you get comes preloaded with swag. Fred is still available in the shop, but there's no reason to purchase him outside of the novelty. The incentive is lessened even more considering you can just buy the BSOD Fred upper and call it good.

 

The bottom line is this; Fred needs something to set him apart from the other axes, especially the Assault.

 

The most direct way to do this is with a new weapon. What would you give him? What other avenues would you suggest to set Fred apart from everyone else?

[Dawn_of_Ash]

Fred here used to be the starter Charmander wishes he was.

 

I always thought he was the Companion Cube of Hawken. You don't want to throw him in the fire but...he's just so under-powered. ;(

 

As far as weapons go, I am for giving Fred the Heat Cannon. Or the Reflak. Or the EOC-Repeater. Or the Flack Cannon. Or all of them. Maybe make Fred the only mech to be able to change to all the weapons! :D That would give him to buff he needs - eh, sorta. Was that a bad idea? 

[reVelske]

A remote control HERR HERR HERR IM SO FUNNY

 

Weapon is the smaller issue (give him, say, a Heat Cannon and any of the FLAK variants), I think providing him with a new Ability to set him apart from Assault would be more vital.

[SatelliteJack]

A remote control HERR HERR HERR IM SO FUNNY

 

Weapon is the smaller issue (give him, say, a Heat Cannon and any of the FLAK variants), I think providing him with a new Ability to set him apart from Assault would be more vital.

 

Like what?

[reVelske]

I'd prefer to see CR-T with a more supportive role, like a radar-focused ability, or a hologram ability of some sort. Like having him become a mobile radar for the rest of the team for a duration of time.

Edited by reVelske, 03 June 2015 - 11:27 PM.

[BIsmuthZornisse]

From my changes-thread:

 

Since it was meant to be the starter mech i think its lefthanded weapons, besides the assault rifle, should introduce new players to other projectile behavior types with rapidfire weapons, too:

2nd weapon: Mini"flak"

This introduces newbies to the game's shotgun-type weapons

3rd weapon: "Bombcannon"

This is like the Grendaier's Rev-GL, except the projectiles explode on contact with the environment (like the corsair's default projectile), instead of bouncing off it, and should have higher rate of fire (comparable to the redox rifle). The damage and maybe heatgeneration should be reduced.

This would introduce new players to weapons with arcing projectile trajectories. The name is a placeholder, i couldn't think of a better name, and didn't just want to call it "Battlehammer", the weapon from Metroid Prime: Hunters it was inspired by.

as for a different abilty, i thought about differentiating the coolant abilities

the recruit's ability would be "coolant 0", with less duration but also decreased cooldown.

the assault's would remain as is.

the g2-assault's would be "coolant 2", with longer duration but also longer cooldown.

although does the assault need to have its ability nerfed, or is its source of overpower just the lefthanded weapons?

[EM1O]

i'd like the Alpha combo you see in the old cinematic action trailers, where the Assault (which got squared up into Fred) had a Flak Cannon on the left, and a Sabot rifle on the right.

Close & mid-range shotgun, mid to long-range scopable hit-scan secondary. Devastating DPS on both of them, moderate cooldown as it is for both weapons presently.

Yeh!

 

That would do it for me.

Edited by em1o, 04 June 2015 - 01:21 AM.

[Rainbow_Sheep]

Honestly I would like the CRT to be given a stat buff so it isn't simply outclassed by the Assault, while making sure that it doesn't give older players that have the CRT a significant advantage over the Assault.

In terms of weapons, I think they should stay the same.

And change the ability icon slightly so there is an easy way to tell them apart. Perhaps an "r" where the "2" is on the G2A ability?

Edited by Rainbow Sheep, 04 June 2015 - 02:48 AM.

[Sokram]

I have a weird idea...

 

Everything stay same,  but his secondary weapon is a "hand" now.  It can hold ANY other PRIMARY weapon....BUT weapons only can be picked up from destroyed mechs (Only he can see them).  Dropped weapons disappear in 10 sec.

 

You can pick/drop weapons by pressing mode/scope button when standing close to pickable weapon.

 

His ability will be similar to "weapon coolant" but instead he will just channel all heat into "stolen" weapon and then throw it away.

Superheated weapon will explode and deal some damage if enemy mech is hit.

Edited by Sokram, 04 June 2015 - 05:20 AM.

[Hijinks_The_Turtle]

All hail Fred!

[Sp3ctrr]

Increase fred price to full 12000 HC price, Give every weapon in game. 

 

 

Best Fred is Miniflak Fred.

[Panzermanathod]

Make it so the Fred window displays the players current radar.

[DeeRax]

I also like the idea of making it more of a longish-range support mech.
Replace the SMC and Vulcan with other weapons (Hawkins RPR, and Heat Cannon??), and maybe give it some kind of new ability (I like the idea of a radar-related one).

[Hek_naw]

Make it so the window displays the player's current Twitch stream. So you can see yourself while you're getting killed!

[comic_sans]

Increase fred price to full 12000 HC price, Give every weapon in game. 

 

 

Best Fred is Miniflak Fred.

 

Oh godddddddddd

 

yes please, keep the stats a little worse than the assault and let me flak+GL

[SatelliteJack]

Increase fred price to full 12000 HC price, Give every PRIMARY weapon in game.


Best Fred is Miniflak Fred.

Fixed.

[System64]

Maybe even allow all secondary weapons to be used! ^v^

[Dawn_of_Ash]

Maybe even allow all secondary weapons to be used! ^v^

 

Please no.

[(KDR) Seron16]

Make Fred the only mech in the game...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Duh.

 

CRT is the best mech in the game, and always will be. 

[Rainbow_Sheep]

Increase fred price to full 12000 HC price, Give every weapon in game.


Best Fred is Miniflak Fred.

Nah, PPA Fred is best Fred

[Dawn_of_Ash]

Nah, PPA Fred is best Fred

 

Not even the ability can get Fred out of this one. x)

[Lily_from_animove]

There was once a song called "fred come to bed" that should be playe don the monitor xD

 

but careful if you google it, contains comic nudity and some not so child safe language, which strangely was still on TV and no one cared back in those days.

 

 

But seriosuly, how about giving fred some special emotes appearing on his screen? That would definately give it some unique touch.

Edited by Lily_from_animove, 05 June 2015 - 08:15 AM.

[MomOw]

My idea (posted somewhere before) is to make Fred unique so that it's the only Mech who have secondary weapons options instead of primary weapons.

So its weapon loadout should be :

- Primary : assault rifle

- Secondary : TOW, alternate : Hellfire, prestige : Grenade Launcher

 

I feel that this should be balanced.

[(KDR) Seron16]

My idea (posted somewhere before) is to make Fred unique so that it's the only Mech who have secondary weapons options instead of primary weapons.

So its weapon loadout should be :

- Primary : assault rifle

- Secondary : TOW, alternate : Hellfire, prestige : Grenade Launcher

 

I feel that this should be balanced.

 

I like this idea too, though I go back and forth between the SMG and AR on my recruit.