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[JackVandal]

Okay, so i was thinking about how old items used to be on a cool-down instead of count, what if an internal/item was available to bring that back. This internal/item would slowly restock any items in the players mech.

 

Items would still have cool-downs, be the normal time, but with this new internal/item it would regenerate the item over a period of 20 to 30 seconds.(to much? to little?) it shouldn't be fast enough to spam emps or orbs, but still enough to make it worth while.

 

I think something of this nature should be about 3 slots, that way the player can still use other internals, or if its an item they can use a 2 use item,

 

I just can't decide if it should be a item or an internal. And should it use assists and kills to restore faster? like the replenisher.

[GreyFa1con]

Because there's not enough orb lording?

[MechFighter5e3bf9]

this idea seems more feaseable to me (noticing GreyFa1cons post) then if the reset timer persist over respawns

[eth0]

I like the item idea, where it would fill a slot like item regenerator. 

I was actually just talking about something like this with some folks in TS. We called it the Item Scavenger or some such and it would replace so many items when you got a kill and(?) replace a single item for an assist.

 

Would really love to get an item like this since it even expresses the tiniest bit of lore, something this game is sorely lacking.

[Hyginos]

Or we could just go back to item cool-downs and not punish people for being good.

[maxajcd]

i think it would be best if either it becomes a standard feature instead of an internal/item, or not implemented at all, before this, orblord needs to be fixed tho. Just my personal opinion.

[JackVandal]

Well i was ideally hoping that the cool-down on how fast an item regenerates would prevent how effective orb lording would be, though this would also be after the next patch so ideally orbing would have received its nerf then.

[MechFighter5e3bf9]

a well guarded orb lord turret + regenerating orbs would be a menace in the right hands, or an orb lording van in turret mode with smc(my favorite for close quarter pileups) will greatly increase its lifespan

[JackVandal]

a well guarded orb lord turret + regenerating orbs would be a menace in the right hands, or an orb lording van in turret mode with smc(my favorite for close quarter pileups) will greatly increase its lifespan

this is true, perhaps do away with the assist/kills recharge? make it the flat 20/30 seconds or so? thats not nearly fast enough to keep it alive if its trying to tank. though, its almost impossible to balance for a well coordinated team.

[MechFighter5e3bf9]

this is true, perhaps do away with the assist/kills recharge? make it the flat 20/30 seconds or so? thats not nearly fast enough to keep it alive if its trying to tank. though, its almost impossible to balance for a well coordinated team.

being unable to stack regeneration from kills/assist would make me unable to vanguard a group no were near as effectively as it is for most matches when im turtling the harder they push the harder i deflect as orbs litter the field and my stacked up regen lasts longer than they take to rejoin the fight i can keep up till they are in shock or my teams all dead and im eventualy overcome

[GreyFa1con]

As a guy who's not a huge fan of this, (because it could drastically shift the meta if poorly implemented), here's how I'd do it.

4 slot item, 30 second cooldown

Then see how that plays, and tweak it from there.

[JackVandal]

i was thinking have it have the 20 second regen, 3 slots, but wont stack with the item replenisher that cools-down item use, even if its a 4 slot, it shouldnt stack with the use cooldown item,

[HugeGuts]

Having only so many item uses before needing to die so you can use them again isn't fun. But I do not think going back to item regeneration will fix this, especially with the current "Mark" system and carrying multiples of the same item. I see experienced players easily spacing out their item usage between replenishment cool-downs for near-spamming of powerful items. Sure, the item regeneration cool-down could be even longer, but waiting is no fun either.

 

Instead, I want to see item replenishment power-ups added to maps. Picking one up replenishes one random item in your load out. The power ups would spawn and respawn from pre-placed pads. Spent power-up pads would have respawn timers on them to assist players in timing new pickups. Item replenishes wouldn't come from downed mechs. Especially with Orb Lord being a thing. I dare not think what something like Item Lording would do to this game.

[GreyFa1con]

i was thinking have it have the 20 second regen, 3 slots, but wont stack with the item replenisher that cools-down item use, even if its a 4 slot, it shouldnt stack with the use cooldown item,

I find the best way to release potentially overpowered changes, is to release them underpowered, then see how they play.

Also, MK2 Repair Charge that regens every 20 seconds, would mean you could drop a charge, wait 7 seconds, drop another, and then 13 seconds later, do it all over again. Ad infinitum.

That doesn't sound a little bit overpowered to you?

[JackVandal]

yeah, though i assumed that at the point this was released the orblord would receive its nerf in the same patch if not sooner, even so, a 30 second cooldown would be fine if thats what balance requires,