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I've been playing Hawken for about 2-3 months, and I'm finally ready to drop a bit of cash on a new mech or two. But I honestly have no clue where to start. 

 

My playing type is pretty aggressive and on the offense. So for me something fast, and powerful would be nice. But I know that might be a little tricky.. So my question is, what do you guys think are the best overall mech or mechs to purchase? I know everyone has their own playing style and such but I'm just wondering what are you guys' general opinion on this.

 

*also, I apologize if there already is a topic on the forum about this. I looked and didn't find one**


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Raider.


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The title was slightly misleading and my answer was going to be "Assault. How is this even a question?"

But if you're looking for something noobs friendly and aggressive... well, the answer is still Assault.

But for the sake of variety, I'll also point out that the Vanguard is an excellent buy, and middlingly expensive.
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"The title was slightly misleading"

Sorry bout that. My main question there was what was the best overall mechs in you guys' opinion. I was just mentioning my situation cause that's sorta  what I'm gonna use as a source when I try to buy one later. Cause I really want to hear what you guys think is the best overall mechs and honestly cause I have no clue.

 

But yeah, I can see why that was misleading. Thanks for your answer though!


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It has been a long time since I last played, but my favorite mechs for playing up close and personal were the Assault and the Grenadier.

 

Yes, the Grenadier. Get the Vulcan, and combine it with its damage increase ability, and you have fat death walking. Plus, if you ever want to go for a more support style, you can use the REV-GL, so you get more variety out of a single mech than the Vanguard.


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It has been a long time since I last played, but my favorite mechs for playing up close and personal were the Assault and the Grenadier.

 

Yes, the Grenadier. Get the Vulcan, and combine it with its damage increase ability, and you have fat death walking. Plus, if you ever want to go for a more support style, you can use the REV-GL, so you get more variety out of a single mech than the Vanguard.

Nice. I'll have to check that out. Thanks!!


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The blitz abilty makes the raider the most aggro mech for short periods. I play super aggro with it, get a kill or two and die. It's really fun though.
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As in the most powerful by general consensus? AR/SMC Assault, PPA Incinerator, and Flak Brawler are definitely the top three then. Vulcan Grenadier gets a mention for being very strong in some circumstances, but it's not as useful overall as the other three. 

 

For you in particular, Flak Scout, AR/SMC Berserker, and T32 Raider are all good choices.


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As in the most powerful by general consensus? AR/SMC Assault, etc...

I actually find that on certain maps, for the same reason that Vulcan gren gets a mention, vulcan assault outshines SMC or AR assault.

I use this primarily on origin. Despite a few wider open spaces, much of the combat suited for my playtsyle is quite up close and personal.

The point stands though, that the assault is easily the most versatile.

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As in the most powerful by general consensus? AR/SMC Assault, PPA Incinerator, and Flak Brawler are definitely the top three then. Vulcan Grenadier gets a mention for being very strong in some circumstances, but it's not as useful overall as the other three. 

 

For you in particular, Flak Scout, AR/SMC Berserker, and T32 Raider are all good choices.

I was thinking about getting the Berserker. But I heard from some other users that it's OP. I wouldn't be looked down upon for getting it would I? I don't want cheap kills. I just want a fairly good mech. 


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I was thinking about getting the Berserker. But I heard from some other users that it's OP. I wouldn't be looked down upon for getting it would I? I don't want cheap kills. I just want a fairly good mech. 

It's a good mech. Yes, many players would look down on you if it was all you played. I have trouble finding enthusiasm when someone I know always plays berserker is in a game I'm playing.

 

At low to mid (and even situationally at high) levels of play, it can be very good. There's nothing wrong with buying it, but don't rely on it. It is one of the easier mechs to play.


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G2 Assault. Totally the most powerful mech this game has ever seen. kappa


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I was thinking about getting the Berserker. But I heard from some other users that it's OP. I wouldn't be looked down upon for getting it would I? I don't want cheap kills. I just want a fairly good mech. 

 

I doubt it. Tbh I get more hate for playing Scout even though Berserker is a better A-class, and neither are particular OP. Zerker is very good against people who can't aim, but it's mostly balanced overall, especially compared to things like the Incin. 


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Assault is by far the best because unlike just about every other mech it has no weaknesses. Easy to use sustain weapons, ability that renders heat management unnecessary, enough HP to deal with C classes and a boost speed that can keep up with just about any mech.
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Long post follows. Apologies.

 

Aggressive mechs that are powerful? Raider/Raider G2 is my vote for you (more health than Berserker, not dependent on an ability timer for high damage 1st strike). Berserker 2nd vote. Vanguard 3rd vote (fastest C-class).

 

Cheap response = get them all, you won't know til you try everything, and your opinion in the end will likely not be the same as the 'general consensus'.

 

Honest response = for me (only), those I've played with feel that the most looked down upon choices are Tech, Incin, Rocketeer, and Brawler. Tech is easy to score with (heal everyone all the time and arrive at the top of the scoreboard), Incin has limitless ammo if you can get the timing down, and anything with Hellfires as a secondary are sometimes seen as needing less skill (lock on, fire, hide). Doesn't stop us from playing them, though. People in other crowds and brackets will sometimes disagree with this assessment. See previous posts :)

 

But...indivdual skill and comfort with the platform/weaponry count for much more than the mech itself. There is always an exception to the rule. I've seen aggressive Sharpshooters/Reapers go toe-to-toe with foes,  I know a Tech that goes aggressive 1vs1 and repeatedly comes out on top, I've seen Infiltrators that only use their cloak to escape AFTER they kill you. But these are exceptions, playing against their typical roles (Snipers/Reapers hang back, Techs only play a support role, Infiltrators sulk around like ninjas, etc.).

 

It's a very rare player that hasn't bought a mech or two that they just couldn't wrap their head around, or was never able to achieve mastery with. If you play long enough, you'll eventually have them all - and you'll buy them with HC anyway, just out of curiousity.

 

So try something different each time (an Assault is too similar to the CRT you already have). You will get burned once or twice, then later you will find one that's "OMFG this is so awesome" good.

 

And there are some really skilled, scary players that pilot the 'looked down upon' mechs too. 

 

The most important thing is get out there, practice, and have fun. And occasionally try following others around and just watch what they do - easier to make observations while you're not the one being shot at. ESPECIALLY watch when you're angry that someone is consistantly mowing you down like grass - actually the WORST time to quit a match, and the BEST time to learn. This is a 'never stop learning' type of game. Figure out how to counter instead of repeating mistakes in the hope that the result will be different 'this time'.

 

Good luck.


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Long post follows. Apologies.

 

I read everyone's posts and thank you all. I watched some videos and I'm currently looking at a few mechs thanks to you guys. 

 

But I do also wanna say thank you FlamingBeaker. Long posts are only a problem if they're not worth the read, and that wasn't a problem cause that was certainly worth the read. I appreciate it and it most helped a lot!


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I read everyone's posts and thank you all. I watched some videos and I'm currently looking at a few mechs thanks to you guys. 

 

But I do also wanna say thank you FlamingBeaker. Long posts are only a problem if they're not worth the read, and that wasn't a problem cause that was certainly worth the read. I appreciate it and it most helped a lot!

 

I'd suggest you go with Scout if you want to improve quickly as well as play something fun that fits your playstyle. It forces you get positioning down if you want to stay alive, and positioning is definitely one of the most important aspects of the game. You also learn how to use TOW, which is nice since it's on some of the best mechs in the game and is probably the top secondary overall. 


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Predator imo. Most versatile and the heat vision makes you a god in corner play. Throw in the ability to lay traps & shoot through shields and you got it.

Oh and sometimes the invisibilty can really mess with some people who aren't paying much attention.


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Normal Assault.

Decent at everything, never horrible at something. Can be all from long range to short. Decent armour. TOW is always reliable. Don't know any internals that are worthless to put on it.

But in my honest opinion I think it is boring. You are decent at everything, yes, but never truly amazing at everything either.

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 but never truly amazing at everything either.

You'd be surprised. 



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You'd be surprised. 

 

My position at this point is that because the Assault is so perfectly balanced it is OP, because there is nothing else in the game that perfectly made.



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On a personal basis, my best mech is the Rocketeer.

 

It might just be my high ping from playing from across the globe and my aim being really shoddy in general, but I have much better results with it than say a Reaper or any sustained fire mechs like the CRT.



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My, the one and only true Mech tier list for competitive MA

 

TIER 1

Incinerator, Technician;

 

TIER 2

Assault, Raider, SharpShooter;

 

TIER 3

Cupcake, Infiltrator, Scout,  Brawler, Grenadier, Rocketier, Reaper, Predator;

 

TIER 4

G2 Raider, G2 Assault, Bruiser

 

 

T1 - simply op

T2 - Assault very good all-round mech, strong on all maps.  SS best long range, one of the main damage dealers in the team. Raider has his flaws but is best in its role, also good for fast 1v1 silo retakes, but is weakest out of 3

T3 - is very broad because mech effectiveness is greatly  dependant on map.

T4 - you would do better in any other mech


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Is the Bruiser not terrible yet? God my poor Bruiser, such a fun get drunk and blow stuff up mech. Now it's just a trailer queen that sits in my garage with a fancy paint job. What have they done to you, you had it all, now nothing.


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There is no best mech just diferent ways to play  One mech is not equiped for every situation. A good pilot may have a few mechs he or she  gravitates twards. BUT mechs are situational. Learn at least four and at least one of each class.  AND FOR GODS SAKE DO NOT PLAY ALL MECHS THE SAME .You will thank me latter.



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Incinerator is fairly balanced saved for 1 or two things on its own. Shoots forever, but Baby's not the best in a direct firefight, Papa's one of the harder and more awkward weapons to use in the game but is powerful (but when it shines it shines brightly), and Mama's good for SAARE spam and not much else despite Mama having ammo that raise enemy heat.

 

Technicians aren't really OP from what I've seen in most cases. They have very good meat (Mech) shields, though. I think people think it's OP because it's different for its healing ability.

 

That said, neither of those are mechs I'd recommend for your playstyle. Of your playstyle I'd say Assault. And by Assault I mean CR-T.



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sharpshooter is fast strong powfull



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I was thinking about getting the Berserker. But I heard from some other users that it's OP. I wouldn't be looked down upon for getting it would I? I don't want cheap kills. I just want a fairly good mech. 

Berserker is OP because a Raider can't kill it in less than one second. It takes a G2 Raider.

 

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Aggro and powerful?
I will echo others' recommendations of:
Raider, Berserker, & Vanguard.


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Holy necro guys.

 

 

Anyway, if you're a new player I recommend just playing mechs with the EOC repeater. EOC is the best weapon trust me you won't be sorry


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Oh fuzzy bunny, I didn't even look at the date.




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Oh fuzzy bunny, I didn't even look at the date.




 

Uh....eh....hehe....yes. Me neither.


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