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My heart goes out to all of those affected by the latest attacks in France. No human deserve to go through what has happened today, yet so many still did. To all those families broken after this day, relatives and friends of us forum lurkers who may have been affected by this, I want to say that we Scandinavians, and at least for me as a Norwegian, we stand with you on this. I hope the best for all of you, and hope you will accept our condolences.

 

And if you think I made this thread for like-whoring, which well I won`t blame you had this been something much more harmless I would probably haven`t said this, but for the respect of those affected, do not like this post. I deserve no likes for this post as I am not affected by this in direct sense, and wanted only for those who may be affected to know we Scandinavians stand with you through this, and for a Norwegian who still remembers 22nd of July, this hits a sore spot inside me seeing more people must suffer from madmen.


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What if I told you ... your thread will probably be removed ... they'll find an excuse ... enjoy the cool points too ...

This is not the time to joke, or even be witty. I could go on and tell you why you are wrong, but so can I every other day also.

 

Today is a day of mourning for our French brothers and sisters.


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This is just freaking sad. And we already smell the wind of hate coming from inside. This is insane.


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Our condolences to our french friends for the horrible attacks which happened tonight in Paris.


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My thoughts and prayers for all those impacted by this horrible event that took place.  Please stay safe everyone. 


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Thanks Aregon. I live in Paris and was outside when the attacks began. Fortunately, I haven't been in trouble. But what happened makes me voiceless. Seven places has been simultaneously attacked, and more than 120 people died (such an amount of casualties haven't been seen in the capital since WW2). The country is in emergency mode and the boundaries have been closed. I have never seen my country like this before. The feeling is weird.

 

I just can't understand what happened. What's the point of this all? Truth? Revenge? God? Terror? Yeah, terror... And they're pretty good at it.


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Terror, yes. Make us live in fear. But we must not give in to fear, hate. Or we are done.


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The whole situation makes my heart ache, and my brain hurt.  Prayers to everyone involved.


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Solidarity, compassion, and a deep sense of remorse for our oldest friends and allies in France from the Northeastern woods of the USA.  We have been watching it all night and our hearts and thoughts are with you.  Freedom, Equality, & Brotherhood!!!


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Paris, mon c�ur souffre pour vous.


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These goddamn terrorists, when will they stop!

 

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I'm on vacation, but these attacks happend really close to were I live. So far I don't think that friends of mine were wounded but that was f*cking close.

 

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My condolences to France, and all those impacted whether it be directly or indirectly.
If anyone here is impacted and needs to talk, I'm here to chat if you need anything.
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Two Tunisians also died in the assault it seems ...


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Two Tunisians also died in the assault it seems ...

 

The problem is not the nationality of the victims or assailants but the piece of fuzzy bunny ideology behind the attacks. The cousin of a close friend is one of the casualties at the concert venue. I can't even start to imagine what it must feel like to have someone in your family being mowed down by brain dead fanatics for no reason. I hope they find everyone responsible and turn them into mist.  


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The problem is not the nationality of the victims or assailants but the piece of fuzzy bunny ideology behind the attacks. The cousin of a close friend is one of the casualties at the concert venue. I can't even start to imagine what it must feel like to have someone in your family being mowed down by brain dead fanatics for no reason. I hope they find everyone responsible and turn them into mist.  

 

Being fairly young and generally known for trolling behavior, I don't expect anyone to believe my opinion but uh ... what happened in paris yesterday is really a repeated scenario to what happened in Tunisia some months ago, assassinations in the Bardo museum ... a game played by the Gov.

If you look at it a such operation is very beneficial for the french gov in order to stop refuges from invading the country and also keeping the north africans in check.

But hey, it's not really a good time to make theories and fuzzy bunny ...

 

At the same time I'd like to point to something that's making me very very sad. Yesterday there were 2 terrorist attacks including a very terrible one: 2 young boys were caught and one of them was slaughtered and had his head returned to his family with the second boy (his cousin). The surviving kid is now in total chock and will probably go nuts soon. The victim's body was found earlier after almost a whole day.

What's making me so mad? No one batted an eye to the tragedy and no one from the state visited the mother and her family. They all flew to france to show their consolidation... I understand that the attack on paris was on a much bigger scale and very unexpected but ... france is getting enough love from the whole world already ...

 

Sad times ... sad times ...


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Are you really saying you're mad because;

 

1) It's an inside job by the french government / they knew it didn't stop it?

 

2) 2 people got killed in Tunisia and it didn't make headlines?

 

 

I'm not to going to respond to anything else because the choice of words I'd use right now to tell you how fuzzy bunnyng retarded that sounds and what it makes me think of you would get me banned from these forums.


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Are you really saying you're mad because;

 

1) It's an inside job by the french government / they knew it didn't stop it?

 

2) 2 people got killed in Tunisia and it didn't make headlines?

 

 

I'm not to going to respond to anything else because the choice of words I'd use right now to tell you how fuzzy bunnyng retarded that sounds and what it makes me think of you would get me banned from these forums.

 

No I meant no hate, I called many of my french friends to consolidated them too ... I think you're getting me wrong ...


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No I meant no hate, I called many of my french friends to consolidated them too ... I think you're getting me wrong ...

 
Then don't make it sound like that.
 
French media did mention the terror attacks in other countries yesterday, example being celebrating the man who helped saved people in the terror attacks in Beyrouth. As you can understand though, other news today are being eclipsed by the attacks on home soil.

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Missed these news. I'm tired of watching TV because everything they show is just depression because of our economical status here in my country. But anyway, first it was Charlie Hebdo and now this. Jesus christ not talking about Syria and such countries. This world is going to fuzzy bunny before the Sun even explodes in a giant black hole


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The Jihadists are certainly not helping the Muslim image. 

 

This is just fuel for the far right wing and nationalist sects of politics to create more dissent and divide in Europe. 

 

I know for a fact a lot of people share my view; Boots on the sand, Bring the pain.


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I think all violence relies, if not stems from, the ability to perceive other people as different - the inability to view the acted upon as a living being that behaves and thinks according to a rationality not dissimilar, perhaps even identical to the actor.

 

Unless you're emotionally unstable to the point of suicide, which I'd argue is a different problem, and one less worth our anger than our sympathy, the problem that causes one to lash out in violence, be it a fist fight on a school bus or a massacre, is the lack of identification with what you believe about another person. When you stop - or never do identify with another person, when you stop seeing them as what you know of as human, as alive, disgust, anger, hatred, they almost flow naturally.

 

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This is us.

 

Really, really, think about that. This is every. Single. One. Of. Us.

 

Across that 8,000 mile range, that circle that you can hold a thumb a foot in front of your face and blot out, against the unintelligibly vast backdrop of the universe, lives over seven billion human beings and an uncountable number of other life forms. If you travel another Earth diameter, if you travel twenty, thirty, ten thousand times that, apart from those few hostile worlds that accompany us in our star's slow orbit around the galaxy, you will find nothing larger than an asteroid. Nothing more significant than rocks and dust.

 

Here we are on this singular, stupid little planet, alone in a way few of us can even begin to imagine, and we hate ourselves. We are violent with ourselves, we hurt and bend and murder ourselves, and can't you see? It is just us. Perhaps it's the isolation. We have no one to talk to, no one to give us perspective how wildly different things can be, and so the entire range of human emotion bursting from billions and billions of human lives must rage across this little blue thing, no bigger than your thumb.

 

But then there's this.

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But it's not. Everyone you ever meet is genetically identical, save for a fraction of a percent. Everyone you ever meet, talk to, think about, everyone you care about, love, hate, shag, fight, live with, cry with, touch or avoid, and all the other billions, exist on that same blue thing spinning around in the same soul penetratingly immense void.

 

We are all so similar, so identical. We are similar enough that we can hate each other, and for deep ideological reasons too, but it all stems from the fear of something that is not the same, fear of the other, fear of something different from you. From me. From us.

 

We're not different from us.

 

I think, I genuinely believe, that the only long term counter, the only effective thing we can do to keep all of us with these hundreds of thousands of years of survival instincts, keep us from tearing each other apart as we slowly, but more and more rapidly begin to occupy each other's space and thoughts and emotions, is to understand each other.

 

We live in a universe where entire galaxies, teeming with millions and billions of stars and whole solar systems like our own, can be ripped apart, annihilated, but somehow, somehow we think that us, us on this little blue thing that something will save us from ourselves.

 

We evolved to survive in a world where what we did didn't impact people even ten miles away.

 

We've changed that world, and we need to change with it.

 

Go outside and talk to someone. Go outside and make someone happy. Make someone understand that this stupid planet doesn't have to feel so alone.


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This may just be the most thought-provoking and deep thing I have ever read on this website.

 

Hats off to you, sir.


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true strong words tickle, sadly whoever are behind this are not human so they won't understand.


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true strong words tickle, sadly whoever are behind this are not human so they won't understand.

What are they, crab people?

 

Allow me an edit before response. Knee jerk reaction.

 

How different do you really believe they are?

 

Obviously a lot. After all, I doubt you could put yourself in their shoes and imagine truly committing to these acts, but they are human. They may be at the extreme ends of human, but what you're talking about is the "extreme end" of a fraction of a percent of genetic material. What they are, is in all of us, and that is hard to accept.

 

Terrifying even.

 

But because of it, because this sort of vulgarity, this violence, because it exists in all of us, it is the most important reason to reach out to each other and try to grasp what sort of world they see. It's not fun, it's not an idea that clamors and rings "and justice for all," but it is necessary.

 

And it applies to those that commit violence as much is it applies to us, but unfortunately, they are not my audience. You are.

 

Life is painful, and I cannot properly express the twisted convulsions and spurts of emotion that occur when I attempt to empathize with the victims and those the victims were close to, but the most common reaction to pain is fear.

 

And in the long run, it is that same fear that will do more harm.


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Hmmm .... let me try to put it in a reasonable way ...

As far as you know, I'm a muslim, happy person, do my prayers and go to the mosque etc ...

There exist what I should call "relative extremists" ... those who claim that they live the way our ancestors lived and follow their teachings ... these people lack knowledge, reason ... they're totally wrong and absolutely refuse to understand others ... blindly believe what their higher-ups teach em and even more blindly try to project it on a reality that has evolved so much compared to the days of our prophet PBOH and his generations ...

 

Dealing with and talking to these people shows you that there can be people who could totally lose sense, emotion and pretty much humanity ... all they keep of the teachings of the religion is the black flag ...

 

I've been around those people who aren't even close to terrorists, as they still do good deeds etc ... but people who commit such things, they're either brainwashed or only human as far as bodyparts go.


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But look at that, in just a few paragraphs, you've gone from describing them as "not human" to brainwashed - and the difference is vast. Brainwashed implies that the human in question has experienced an environment so extreme that they lose their sense of identity and self, and with that their connection to the world around them.

 

Not human implies that there never was a connection.

 

I feel that as a species, it's kind of vital that we strengthen those connections - especially in times like this where so many people want nothing more than to rip them apart.


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The fundamental issue with trying to understand people who commit atrocities like this is, like tickle has said, we are all human, and acknowledging the people who do these things as human forces us to acknowledge that we ourselves are capable to do these things, even if we never would, each of us has the potential to be the best and worst of humanity, and clearly the people who attack innocent civilians display some of the worst, but our hurt and outrage should never lead us to say they are not human, we need to rise above the worst examples, and be the best examples of humanity, and encourage others to do the same.


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I want to come with a little disclaimer.I know about the attack in Beirut, and while I hope the best for those affected there, I will not a new thread or anything, because frankly, I don't know anyone from there who have been affected. However we got 2 French in our clan (Vdragon, Neon) and another friend of mine (MomOw) who are all French, plus several members of the community I respect highly whom I also know are French.

If there are any from Beirut here who reads this, you have my deepest condolences and my prayers go to you also.
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The killing in Orlando is beyond comprehesion. It brings me sadness on a epic level. The lack of human compassion is mind boggling. I am so sick of people like this doing this crap in the name of some religion. There is NO excuse for it. No god told anyone to do this crap. I am so sorry for the families and friends of these people. I cannot even imagine the level of pain they are suffering right now. My condolences go out to all of you. I hope this crap will stop someday.


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