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Wish the guys would make us able to drop multiple turrets and remove the duration on blockade and shield
-Turret cap removed.. Could really make the turrets a bit more useful when holding points since they go down easy
-Blockade and Shield duration removed.. I mean they go down in 3 tow shots and could really be a good retreat plan rather than having to drop one while retreating
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Agree on the first, disagree on the second.
Turrets are so ungodly useless right now Hyginos and I actually giggled like school girls when I got a kill on him with one last night. They are a party trick, nothing more.
Shieldplay is so god awfully strong in the right hands it doesn't need a buff. I do not want a shield that a pred can fire through indefinitely, or that an SS can dance through forever. Blockades are fantastic retreat plans as they are... you just need to not flee in a straight line.
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I agree with Amid about shield and blockade.
About turrets they can be balanced in multiple ways, and IMHO removing the turret limitation is not the right thing to do.
3 different ideas I would like to try :
keep the turret current HP but make them deal real damage output (70DPS ?) and knockback effect for rockets
keep the turret current damage output but make them invincible and adjust their lifespan
slightly increase their DPS but make them sticky on walls / ceiling
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and knockback effect for rockets
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I agree with Amid about shield and blockade.
About turrets they can be balanced in multiple ways, and IMHO removing the turret limitation is not the right thing to do.
3 different ideas I would like to try :
keep the turret current HP but make them deal real damage output (70DPS ?) and knockback effect for rockets
keep the turret current damage output but make them invincible and adjust their lifespan
slightly increase their DPS but make them sticky on walls / ceiling
The only thing I can agree to is making them deal real damage. I'm going for a deployable Assault Rifle, or maybe SMC.
As it stands, they don't even work as a distraction because their sound and damage are unique and immediately identify them as useless and ignorable. Making the MG Turret sound and behave like an AR would force people to pay attention to it and fear it. Keep the overrun and crap health, make it actually effective in turn.
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The turrets make a semi-effective radar trap. If you drop a turret in a path you're trying to watch for enemy movement, they're pretty effective at alerting you.
To be serious for a moment this is just a joke
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The turrets make a semi-effective radar trap. If you drop a turret in a path you're trying to watch for enemy movement, they're pretty effective at alerting you.
They only remotely useful thing about them right now. And even then, still just an annoyance for the enemy.
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I use them as a radar sometimes.
Preds and experienced players just walk on them, hence wanting it so they take damage from walking on them.
Easy to implement, makes the turret more useful as doing extra 50 damage to a good player can be enough to turn the tables, and then turrets are no longer completely useless.
A concept of a turret-hacker would make it fun, as a heap of turrets could suddenly swap side turning the fight the other way.
(I suggested in Poops Exploding Orbs thread) It would be a Det-like item that you shoot at turret(s) and it swaps the team of any turret in its landing radius. Would need to fly quicker to have good utility though. As soon as a turret drops in a scrim you could flip it before it fires its first shot which avoids having to avoid/destroy it. Or if you see it across the map, you can flip it before walking into its effective range. Would annoy any SS that uses MG turrets to watch their back (As I have done sometimes). A countering strategy that adds risk to using turrets. Adding Troll factor? Meh, just do it.
I like the idea of a small Grenade or "emp" like device that hacked turrets etc, even imagine scramblers and scanners....
Create a sudden polarity shift on some fights imo
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The turrets make a semi-effective radar trap. If you drop a turret in a path you're trying to watch for enemy movement, they're pretty effective at alerting you.
They only remotely useful thing about them right now. And even then, still just an annoyance for the enemy.
Oh, I think they're a little more useful that just that. They may not be deadly, but they can absolutely force a player to include them in their 'heat-of-battle' decisions.
If you're going toe-to-toe (or should I say tow-to-tow) with another player and it's going to be a close one... having an enemy MG Turret nearby will force you to retreat, move out of range, or stomp that turret to prevent that slight health drain from being the advantage your opponent needs to overtake you in the health pool race.
To be serious for a moment this is just a joke
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one possibility would be allowing to deploy as many turrets as you have equipped in your mech beneath minimum required distances or ratios in between turrets of a same class
at first glance, would look fair to me as it would be a way to cancel spamming turrets -very near in between 'em- on a same ubication of the map
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edit: purchasing mk-iii should be somehow more rewarding.. at least in general terms...
Edited by The_Silencer, 25 April 2016 - 11:06 AM.
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