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The server list function is still useless,

  • Any attempt to join any of the games listed results in, "Join game failed" Error: 931D9C29 failed to join game. The server is not accepting players at this time. Please try again later. Game Server reservation failed.

 

  • This happens regardless of the servers listed condition (empty and half-filled game servers give same error)

 

  • Synchronizing stats when logging on and leave a game seem to take much longer now.

 

This is MOST annoying when checking herokuapp.com for servers status, and the one(s) you're attempting to join are mid-game, not full, and not cycling for the next session. Or, 3 or 4 friends are in a server, and you try to get in at the start through an invitation--nope. To soon? maybe. 10% progress, nope. 40%, nope. 70%--Game Server Full. for 5 damm minutes i can't get in, then 2 random people join?  WTF???


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I will be forced to keep a browser open to check where all cities are and if there are duplicates, I will have no idea which duplicate the server browser refers to. I would really like to know info about ping or see USE/USW included in the name.

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As an EU player, I don't want to reach for the map to guestimate what ping I will be getting. Moreover, playing in the off-peak time often requires me to hop over to the US-East servers and for many of us in the EU, US-East and US-West will yield a very different result. US-West with near 200ms of ping is nearly unplayable.

 

Without the separation, a ping based MM is more welcome than a pure region base matchmaker. And of course ping on the server browser too.



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Portland, OR

 

I agree with this, not sure if you can put a ',' in the server name.  But at least this is more descriptive of where the server is really located.  How about a P for physical and V for a virtual?.  I thought that I heard somewhere that there were different types of servers.  I guess this only matters if you want the community to help with performance issues, if we see a certain problem only related to a certain server type.



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You forgot about tab/option showing PING/latency - most important thing when browsing servers in fps game.

 

I agree that it might be helpful to have a Ping or latency to the server.  The issue with having everything group like this, is that if you are on the East coast, you don't want to be playing on west coast server and vice versa.  This all resolves around the Match Making.  If you are just picking from the list to play from, then it is not an issue because you know where the servers are located.  I just hope that Match Making can put me into a match with the lowest possible ping.  So if there are two games going on where I would be a good fit hope it puts in the one with the lowest ping.  Maybe this can be an option for Match Making?

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  • Best Fit based on lowest ping


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My conclusion: Nobody in their right mind would host a server in Maine, so: Portland is a great descriptor

 

 

 

Also: CaptJosh and Tiggs, I love the change!!! YOu're a genius! The West coast servers have been veritable ghost towns. In the evening, there'd be one, Maybe two active. This evening FOUR west coast servers were active!!! I am amazed at results of your improvement. I just bought another $30 in Meteor credits, and it looks like it was WELL worth it for the new Hawken Developement team. I wuv you guys <3 

 

Although we were a ghost town, I did enjoy our little clique that was developing over there. Its more fun when you play against the same 6-18 people each week.



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Going to be exciting to see new developments; can't wait to see other tweaks! ^^


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I think you should use state names if the state is small enough, unless the city is well known with no name-twins or the state is so large that the location is pertinent, i.e. San Fran vs. Los Angeles for a California server.

The should definitely be a Los Angeles server again.... I miss it so much...

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Quote from Anichkov3:

"To do this, just need to add a button. In the "Server Browser", right under the description of the server. Button and on it the word "ping". By clicking on that occur ping to the server and displays the player." 

 

 

This is a great great suggestion. I would love to know what the ping of each server is before joining. It is a hindrance not knowing. And how awesome would that be, to know who's playing on that server. Those would be two great additions to an already fantastic game. 


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Portland. Standardize to city names.

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I think this region selection thingy is working. Today I saw a european server that was FULL.

 

I... I don't think I've EVER seen that happen before.  :blink:



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I agree that it might be helpful to have a Ping or latency to the server.  The issue with having everything group like this, is that if you are on the East coast, you don't want to be playing on west coast server and vice versa.  This all resolves around the Match Making.  If you are just picking from the list to play from, then it is not an issue because you know where the servers are located.  I just hope that Match Making can put me into a match with the lowest possible ping.  So if there are two games going on where I would be a good fit hope it puts in the one with the lowest ping.  Maybe this can be an option for Match Making?

  • Best Fit
  • Best Fit based on lowest ping

 

 

I would like to see something similar or to have the Asia-Oceanic servers split again. I'd prefer to join a server with the lowest ping through matchmaking and not get matched into a high latency server



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We definitely need the ability to select sub-regions from within a region. I'm unable to play tdm on west right now because I'm mmr locked from one match (fuzzy bunnyng stupid fuzzy bunny, I regularly play with all the players in that lobby right now) and the other tdm is full. Can't queue to make it put me in the higher game because I can only queue for full NA.

 

This is actually a pretty big problem


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server changes lead to more populated EU servers ! nice !

 

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Can you please make it so that the game remembers my choice? I don't want to be selecting the region every time I launch Hawken.
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This was a really good thing to do considering that it is making regions more active :)
I'm from Asia, (specifically Sri Lanka) unfortunately i  get a 180+ ping to the servers in Japan and Aussie under "Asia-Oceania" because of my location, that's very similar to the ping i get for the Frankfurt servers which are in a different 'region'. I guess all of us here https://www.facebook...41138773/ wouldreally appreciate it if you brought the Singapore servers online as well to cover the region better :) 

For the record the Singapore servers had gone offline before Reloaded bought the IP.
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I agree with the desire to be able to see the actual ping time to each server.  I have it high on my list of things to address when we start releasing new client builds.  That would be a much better solution.

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It is nice playing with people from other places but one problem. When they come in with pings at 250 and up it  plays hell with packet loss for everyone in the game. In the last few days I've seen a number of people with pings over 900. No not a typo, 988 in fact. (I asked his location and he was from AU. I play on USA east. Called North America now.) Where do we place a limit on ping? Is there one currently? How do we deal with this? I have no magic answers.


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I really think there should be a mode, or server(s), dedicated to 1v1 matches. I used servers like US West, Australia, Brazil, and Japan for the sole purpose of 1v1ing my friends or playing small games with just us. Now that all the servers are amalgamated into some horrible abomination, I'm sort of stuck. I'd like to play with my friends and just my friends, if that's possible. Also, maybe it's possible to get a passcode option, so you can place a passcode on a single game that you've joined when there is nobody else in the lobby with you. That way, you can join an empty server on a map that you want, and place a passcode so that you and your friends can play unbothered. Otherwise, you'll get non-party'd people angry because some *sshole locked them out of a game their friend was playing. Also, I think some servers should be passcode-protected, as in passcodes cannot be set while in them.

TL;DR= 1v1 should be a thing. Blah blah blah, fan-boy ravings, blah blah blah...



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Uhoh, while I like this Idea sometimes I can only get matches in the US (from Australia) and only the east cost server pings are bareable!

Good to see population in the Sydney and Japan-test servers though.
Wouldnt mind a ping column on the match making screen.



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I really think there should be a mode, or server(s), dedicated to 1v1 matches.

You just described the experimental fight club servers. It was one of the last things ADH started rolling out before the Bad Times™ started.

servers are amalgamated into some horrible abomination, I'm sort of stuck. I'd like to play with my friends and just my friends, if that's possible. Also, maybe it's possible to get a passcode option, so you can place a passcode on a single game that you've joined when there is nobody else in the lobby with you.

Private servers then. They are supposed to be on the way, but I would be really surprised if they didn't cost money (MC).

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  Hey All love what you are doing to start off,

 

 

        Reading these Posts reminded Me of a suggestion I saw another Player Make A while Back when I first started.  And I Thought it Had Viable Pertinence to the Adaptations of the Server Menu's.   The Suggestion was to add a Match timer or score timer to help players Prevent Walking in with less than a minute left with  a huge 15-30 point score deficit and getting a Loss attached to their stats because of random Bad entry timing... I know sometimes you get lucky the other way but it may help avoid some MMR frustrations.....

 

          Also I have noticed sometime it seems that in play guys with a ping as high as 300 seem to be moving faster but my weapons suddenly start to lagg to a 2-3 sec delay at times..... with 65 ping and 12g ram 122fps and a net manager preventing Background process dragg ...So im a bit confused how these Guys with 250-300 ping are getting the first  and last shot and even surviving with really low armor and no internals when i attack with full armor same class  even after 3-4 direct hits then I instantly explode same mech same weapons and full internals and at times a repair charge under my butt lol  it seems odd to me because ill stay on the same server and thigs will be smooth for a while then suddenly it seems like its 5 times as hard to kill the same Mechs  and they hit me once and I pop I have also watched Grendes hit guys dead in the face multiple times and no damage done like the damage register gets screwy.... Just a heads up on some some things I've noticed in the Last 6 months  

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I really think there should be a mode, or server(s), dedicated to 1v1 matches. I used servers like US West, Australia, Brazil, and Japan for the sole purpose of 1v1ing my friends or playing small games with just us. Now that all the servers are amalgamated into some horrible abomination, I'm sort of stuck. I'd like to play with my friends and just my friends, if that's possible. Also, maybe it's possible to get a passcode option, so you can place a passcode on a single game that you've joined when there is nobody else in the lobby with you. That way, you can join an empty server on a map that you want, and place a passcode so that you and your friends can play unbothered. Otherwise, you'll get non-party'd people angry because some *sshole locked them out of a game their friend was playing. Also, I think some servers should be passcode-protected, as in passcodes cannot be set while in them.

TL;DR= 1v1 should be a thing. Blah blah blah, fan-boy ravings, blah blah blah...

 

I kinda like this idea And a 1 on 1 random duel mode would be fun just limit the map space for the duel to take place more efficiently but still leave room for tactics and Trickery.  Muuuuaaaaaa haaaa haaaa haaaaaaaaaa!!!



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Agreed, Portland, OR.  It rings a bell.

 


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Ok, a few issues.

 

First and direct impact from the new changes, I can't use matchmaking anymore, If i pick south America its empty.

If i pick North America and it throws me at a USWest server, ping is too high and I just can't play. US East ping was just fine.

And the real bad thing is there are no location of servers on the server browser or more importantly the PING of each server on the list.

So I can�t choose a server manually either, I�m not going to google every city name in the US to know where it is...

 

So at least for me, finding a server is a chore, server browser -> get city name -> google maps it -> see if it is USEast -> try to join -> server full from the time it took me to know the servers location. -_- Not nice at all.

 

South America is empty and the reason for this is simple most Brazilians don�t speak English, this game needs to be translated to Portuguese. We are a huge market for Free-to-play games, Warface is one huge example of big success from a translated game here. Level-up is a big Brazilian MMO games company that could help hawken developers on translation and marketing. For example we can purchase Warface credits at the supermarket here.

 

Fast solution, A ping column on the server browser window.

Better solution, Match Making should care less for skill points and match by ping. I don�t mind playing better or worse players than i am as long as the match is good (low latency).



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First of all, I love the changes, and find them to be super easy to understand.  Secondly, I live just outside of Portland, ME, and know that a lot of folks don't realize that the Oregon's Portland is an homage to the founders birthcity in Maine, so I would prefer 'Portland, OR' to keep it seperate. 


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