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[h0B0]

im really enjoying these bumps, thanks guys.

happy new years.

[AsianJoyKiller]

h0B0, on December 31 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

im really enjoying these bumps, thanks guys.

happy new years.

No.
URface.

[Aims]

Wondering if I can get some solid confirmation that the increase to secondary RoF in the offense tree does nothing_ Seems like it would be a significant skill to take when stacked with special weapons loader.

Also, does stacking the primary weapon loader with 3/3 increased primary RoF work_ Would this be a useful combination with weapons such as the Heat or Rev_

Edited by Aims, January 03 2013 - 04:11 AM.

[h0B0]

Aims the secondary weapon loader does work. However the spelling is wrong. its 1.5% not 1.5 seconds

You will gain .07 seconds on your tow.

Primary weapon fire is hard to test. i tried it with the flak, the highest primary cooldown i could find. and noticed no difference.
This could e due to the fact that i have .03 seconds between frames and anything smaller than that will not be noticed.

If we take into consideration that the secondary weapon cooldown works as intended, we can assume the primary one works aswell.
But the 1% difference is so very minor it basically makes no difference.

[Aims]

Thankyou but you did not answer if the increase RoF optimisations (both primary and secondary... though you are saying that primary is not noticable anyway so most importantly, secondary) work_

If this is not confirmed, allgood.

[h0B0]

h0B0, on January 03 2013 - 08:09 AM, said:

Aims the secondary weapon loader does work.

Edit: improper wording. sorry.

Increase special fire rate optimization does work*

P.S. i expect budekai to come in here any second now.

Edited by h0B0, January 03 2013 - 11:09 AM.

[Pirits]

Off of the offense tree for a moment, I've noticed a walking bot can still be seen on radar for about 40-60 meters (on the mini-radar). I may be off by a bit, I'm currently incapable of proper testing. I believe a boosting bot can be seen on the radar for an extra 30-40 meters, and firing (a weapon) increases this distance still.

[h0B0]

Not sure what yea mean.

[Pirits]

h0B0, on January 27 2013 - 09:52 AM, said:

Not sure what yea mean.

Your guide seems to make it out that a walking bot is invisible to normal radar, it may be me derping, but I've noticed (when camping) I see unsettling red dots on the radar with the sound of heavy feet, and not jets.

[h0B0]

This guide_
I reread the guide and i saw no mention of anything concearning radar.

It can be useful. especially for non competitive level. But at higher levels of play and with proper communication it becomes not as valuable.

I would highly recommend it for you personally. It might increase your situational awareness.

[Pirits]

Wait, what am I being recommended to_ The base 18 you showed in the OP, or offense, or by chance something else_

[tman7919]

I have been pretty much doing the same optimizations

[The_Silencer]

I found many options to be useful.. sometimes slightly whilst other mini-slightly... The benefit you get at certain chasis works in the same way, IMHO.

Nevertheless, exploring the game internals and optimizations is a good thing; always.

[Wasabi_Wei]

Great thread. I just reworked my optimizations after solo testing the Increase Special Weapon Fire Rate by 1.5 seconds optimization and realizing that the effect was negligible. Lo and behold, there it is on the Hawken Reaper Patch Open Beta Stats spreadsheet in hOBO's sig - it actually gives 1.5%. Big Difference!

I hope a bump gets this thread more notice.

[h0B0]

it got a few likes.

maybe i should get round to updating this thread this morning.

Thanks for the reminder.

If any mods read this can you please edit the title. To something less biased. I fail at imagination right now.

[h0B0]

Updated

[LucasAshrock]

Let us know your opinion about all you wrote when the next patch goes live.

[h0B0]

unchanged.

These optimizations give you the best bang for your buck.
The only change that will effect optimizations in the next patch is the health buff. And with a build like the one i proposed you are taking advantage of the health optimizations.