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[Xtratega]

Dear h0B0:

What is the actual effectiveness of the Bruiser's special ability (i.e. How much is reduced from incoming damage)_

P.S: Should I start going outside_ I'm scared.

[Conquistador]

h0B0, on February 17 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

Conquistador, on February 17 2013 - 09:42 AM, said:

What do the explosive mines themselves do now_ They used to do 150. Is this number higher_

Require people to volunteer for a testing session.

Flag me when you see me in-game next. We definitely need to test this out, but I'm betting mines do 180 damage now instead of 150.

[Creenan]

So, h0B0...

Where did you hide the bodies_

[Akaon]

AsianJoyKiller, on February 17 2013 - 12:18 PM, said:

Akaon, on February 17 2013 - 12:01 PM, said:

Still, there's people maining SS claiming it's absolutely not OP. Or they disguise trolling very well.

I'd like to know who these people are... because if they don't think it's at least a little OP at the moment, they're either trolling or not as good at SS as they think they are.

I'm guessing naming people in a manner like this is against forum rules though .

[h0B0]

RudaForce, on February 17 2013 - 09:43 PM, said:

Dear h0B0...

If someone was to have the max damage SS and used Powershot, but hit unzoomed (There is a %buff to damage, can't check what it is), how much damage would that do_ Also, what is the max amount of Armor that a C mech can possible have_ Does the repair Kit internal buff the Brawler's ability_

EDITL I derped, ignore my first question.

math: 850*1.094=

tman7919, on February 17 2013 - 10:18 PM, said:

I had a legitimate question. What happens if you tweak the ini that deathcam= flase_

I told you in mumble  did not know, people who are more familiar with ini tweaking could answer this question. Ask budekai or c0mad0r_

dEd101, on February 17 2013 - 11:22 PM, said:

Dear hobo.

Are items such as detonators and he grenades (turrets maybe_) increased by the ss powershot or beserker abilities_

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Xtratega, on February 17 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

Dear h0B0:

What is the actual effectiveness of the Bruiser's special ability (i.e. How much is reduced from incoming damage)_

P.S: Should I start going outside_ I'm scared.

Last i checked 16%
yes. Be afraid, be very afraid. You see that big ball of fire in the sky, it will be your doom.

[ShadowGTR]

RedVan, on February 17 2013 - 09:34 AM, said:

Conquistador, on February 17 2013 - 09:15 AM, said:

Also, I had no idea that sharpshooters could one-shot light mechs. And that's terrible.

They can three shot light mechs. 2 slug one sabot. That requires the SS to have the cool down complete on both weapons at once, and requires a target stupid enough to not get to cover after getting hit with the first combo.

Or unlucky enough. I recall a match where I had just spawned in one of the open areas in Bazaar. No sooner had I taken 2 steps, when I got slammed by said combo. Somehow, I managed to live with 5 hp left (not sure how). By the time I got to cover, I got nicked by his detonator splash damage. No, there were no other people firing at me, as the SS was the only player listed under the "Killed by" area. Nothing I could have done differently in this situation.

[quicksilver7]

Dear Hobo,

How do I beat infiltrator's or scout's with heat cannon_ What's the general strategy_

Thanks!

[h0B0]

quicksilver7, on February 19 2013 - 02:16 AM, said:

Dear Hobo,

How do I beat infiltrator's or scout's with heat cannon_ What's the general strategy_

Thanks!

Don't play peek-a-boo. Their splash damage allows them to shoot you "behind walls". Furthermore their splash damage is their biggest weakness try to rush them and give them a hug. Although i never suggest hovering, i find some people rely on the heat splash more than actually aiming at the mech itself it can therefore throw their aim off.

[ReachH]

h0B0, on February 19 2013 - 05:37 AM, said:

quicksilver7, on February 19 2013 - 02:16 AM, said:

Dear Hobo,

How do I beat infiltrator's or scout's with heat cannon_ What's the general strategy_

Thanks!

Don't play peek-a-boo. Their splash damage allows them to shoot you "behind walls". Furthermore their splash damage is their biggest weakness try to rush them and give them a hug. Although i never suggest hovering, i find some people rely on the heat splash more than actually aiming at the mech itself it can therefore throw their aim off.

Sometimes there is nothing you can do, the best players will nail you in falling off the origin bridge, from across the map through a small hole. My advice is just to focus on the objective, killing the weaker plays in TDM and always being near your team to run away and heal; capturing 1&3, opposite the action in MA; populating the AA while having weaker team mates make EU runs in siege.

Often the team with one good player doesn't have much cohesion (sometimes they rely on him and get sloppy, sometimes he tries to solo too much and looses focus on the bigger picture), so they will still loose marginally to a coordinated, less skilled team. A team with 2 good players who play off each other is a different beast entirely. My advice is to play conservative and always pressure if you aren't the best player on your team, and play aggressive if you are. If the whole team followed this philosophy you would be surprised what can be done, a rolling 4 player noob ball flanked by 1-2 hunter killers. The ball takes the hits and attention, and the flankers do the most damage - if not with damage, then by making the battle very uncomfortable for the opposing team.

With the recent HF changes, individual skill is mattering less and less when compared with team cohesion. In many ways HWK stealth buffed the newbie end of the player spectrum.

Basically, you can still win by focusing on the 'macro game' while you bring your individual skill and experience up to par to match theirs (1-2 months).

Meanwhile be sure to pay attention to your movement, radar, and effectiveness with the weapons. Those are the three key things for people who have gotten the hang of the basics.

Edited by ReachH, February 19 2013 - 06:43 AM.

[MojoNixon]

Good post Reach/Hobo-  I too have seen potential in the "noob ball with flanking hunters" setup, it's all a game of momentum and performing the old bait and switch.  Fight on your terms, exploit the over eager nature of a player who thinks they are going in for the kill.  I can't keep track of the amount of times a zealous a -class would chase me round a corner only to find an HE grenade and a tow waiting for them.

[h0B0]

ok.

Testing has revealed hologram does not show up on radar.

Items are affected by damage boost abilities.

Max possible alpha strike with SS using the detonator is 639 dmg leaving enough time for 2 more boosted slugs.

Also found that the detonator got a ninja buff its damage is now even with the HE at 175

Charged EOC mines deal 180 dmg.

I think those cover the recent questions.
Enjoy.

[RentAKnight]

h0B0, on February 19 2013 - 10:59 AM, said:

Charged EOC mines deal 180 dmg.

Can you be more specific.  6 mines on the ground_ If you walk over them_  6 pucks in the air that hit the target_

[Sylhiri]

RentAKnight, on February 19 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

Can you be more specific.  6 mines on the ground_ If you walk over them_  6 pucks in the air that hit the target_

I would assume that is explosive damage by itself. When all 6 explode and hits you its 180 damage.

[RentAKnight]

Sylhiri, on February 19 2013 - 11:11 AM, said:

RentAKnight, on February 19 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

Can you be more specific.  6 mines on the ground_ If you walk over them_  6 pucks in the air that hit the target_

I would assume that is explosive damage by itself. When all 6 explode and hits you its 180 damage.

This would make sense.  So if you shoot the mech DIRECTLY in front of you with charged EOC, you are going to take 180 damage.

[BlackCephie]

We should just have all the vets ONLY play in private scrims for a certain amount of time, and leave public play for rookies, then take two seperate sets of data over a period of time for EVERYTHING. Just cuz...

[Conquistador]

RentAKnight, on February 19 2013 - 11:18 AM, said:

Sylhiri, on February 19 2013 - 11:11 AM, said:

RentAKnight, on February 19 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

Can you be more specific.  6 mines on the ground_ If you walk over them_  6 pucks in the air that hit the target_

I would assume that is explosive damage by itself. When all 6 explode and hits you its 180 damage.

This would make sense.  So if you shoot the mech DIRECTLY in front of you with charged EOC, you are going to take 180 damage.

Kinetic damage remains unchanged, 10 per puck over six pucks for sixty impact damage. Explosive damage has risen from 25 per puck to 30 per puck.

Taken together, EOC Repeater now does 240 damage if all six pucks connect on a direct hit.

Edited by Conquistador, February 19 2013 - 11:26 AM.

[Sylhiri]

RentAKnight, on February 19 2013 - 11:18 AM, said:

This would make sense.  So if you shoot the mech DIRECTLY in front of you with charged EOC, you are going to take 180 damage.

Yah. EOC has two types of damage, 180 explosive (30 per dart) used on direct hits or mine explosions and direct impact damage of 60 (10 per dart). They look like darts dammit...

Seems they raised the explosive part from 25 to 30, which I am guessing they are trying to compensate for the lack luster mine abilities.

DAMN YOU NINJA CON.

Edited by Sylhiri, February 19 2013 - 11:23 AM.

[Conquistador]

Sylhiri, on February 19 2013 - 11:23 AM, said:

DAMN YOU NINJA CON.

I AM THE UBERMECH!

*explodes spectacularly, throwing EOC shuriken everywhere*

Edited by Conquistador, February 19 2013 - 11:50 AM.

[RipperT]

Oi hobo,

Do all mechs in class burn fuel at the same rate while boosting_ i.e. Does a berserker use the same amount of fuel to get from point a to point b as a scout while under boost_

[Sylhiri]

Conquistador, on February 19 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

I AM THE UBERMECH!
*explodes spectacularly, throwing EOC shuriken everywhere*

Well it was short lived but it's going back to its original damage, lol.